Do you think peeta is bland and only matters because he love Katniss
What . lol. No.
I think that’s why people in this fandom love him,
though. They love him because he loves Katniss and orient him solely around
her. Even the people who hate Peeta hate him because they think him bland and boring because he loves Katniss, when he’s actually, if you really look at him,
the most layered character in this whole series. You can fight me on it. I have
a tag full of rants about it.
Pre-Mockingjay, Peeta was shaping up to be the most
layered and complex character these books had. And while some of his traits
shine through when he’s with Katniss, I didn’t fall in love with him because of his love for Katniss. I fell
in love with Peeta’s character out of his own merits. I’ve already talked about
Things that showcase how great he is /without/
talking about Katniss:
He’s an abused child that tries to use his words
instead of violence.
In spite of the aforementioned fact, he isn’t
afraid of using violence when needed. He was
a wrestler after all.
He’s a sarcastic asshole.
He spews jokes about frosting and dying in such
a cavalier manner, who gave him the right.
“The more likeable he is, the deadlier he is.”
He wants to define himself. He’s not here for people telling him who he is. He doesn’t
want the Capitol to change him.
He doesn’t think that killing people makes him a
bad person. I’m going to write that again: he
doesn’t think that killing will make him a bad person. He’s not your
goody-two-shoes puppy, fandom. I’m sorry but he’s not. He thinks that he can
kill people and that through that process he can still remain the person he is.
He finishes off the girl who made the bonfire to keep his alibi intact.
He is so good with words he fools the goddamn
Careers (who are smart and vicious as well) into forming an alliance with them.
He also manipulates the stakes in his favor when
he lies in the first interviews. Do you think he didn’t know what he was doing
when he said what he said?
He’s human enough to be petty when he realizes that Katniss doesn’t love him at the end of
the First games. He admits he pulled away because he was jealous. Which lol, this fandom forgets about that vital flaw. He can be an asshole, he just chooses not to.
He offers Rue and Thresh’s families money out of
his own volition. He didn’t know how that would turn out but his heart was in the
He gets violent
when he realizes that Katniss has kept Snow’s threat from him. He gets violent
and destroys the place in District 11 because Peeta doesn’t like being lied to.
Which is hypocritical in a sense because he hates not knowing what the picture
is. He is a painter, he can craft paintings with frosting, and landscapes and
situations with just his words, and he dislikes being lied to.
He’s the first out of the trio to realize that a
revolution is needed outside of Gale. Gale is always aware of the need for a
rebellion but Peeta advocates for it
IN THE PRESIDENT’S FUCKING HOUSE. Of all places, he does it in the heart of
this corrupt government.
Once Katniss tells him that they have to run
away right before they whip Gale, he
laughs in her face. He knows that at this point they can’t and shouldn’t
When he finds out about the Quell he forces Haymitch and Katniss to train.
People are like he speaks for peace this
child. Fucking please. He is the one who forces them to train to make their
bodies killer weapons so that they can survive.
He rebels by painting Rue on the floor of the
training center to hold the Capitol accountable for what they did. This is
especially more complex when you remember that Peeta was not there when Rue was
killed. Which means that he has watched the footage several times in order to
paint it as it happened.
He manipulates the stakes again when he drops
the baby bomb, like… tbh, Peeta is better at playing this game of pretending
and PR better than any of them.
He offers comfort words to the morphling addict
as she’s dying.
You know that scene fandom loves a lot with the
necklace of “Nobody really needs me”?
He’s lying, again. Because remember
this is the same Peeta that got violent when Katniss didn’t tell him about Snow’s
threat because He also had family and
people he needed to protect.
He kills Brutus.
In the first interview when he’s hostage at the
Capitol, he’s still saying whatever he thinks will benefit his interests
because he’s aware that he can do a lot with his words.
And you know what? Even hijacked he knows that
his words have effects. When he calls Katniss a “mutt” and is super mean to
her, he’s projecting his own lack of self on to her. He is fully aware of what
his words are doing. I have talked about this here.
Because of everything that I have written, which
has nothing to do with Katniss at all, he’s anything but bland. He could have been the best character in this series, if
he hadn’t been hijacked and removed from his own narrative. If Collins hadn’t
failed her own project in Peeta, who was driven by calling his own shots and
deciding to lie so long as it was his
choice, and being himself, he
would have aided the rebellion. That’s what he wanted. He believed in the rebellion
too. Think of how useful he would have been to the rebellion if his author just
hadn’t failed him.
Also, Peeta isn’t just important because he loves
Katniss. Katniss is an unreliable narrator this whole series, and that includes
how much she understands Peeta. The
fandom thinks Peeta is only relevant because he loves Katniss but that’s what Katniss thinks. This is why when he’s
hijacked and isn’t treating her kindly or “lovingly” it breaks her apart.
Because she has only known him loving
her. This is why the entire existence of Delly Cartwright upsets her. Because
Delly has a bunch of information on Peeta that no one else has, and that
Katniss can certainly not supply. Think of the time that Katniss tells him “You’re a painter. You’re a baker. You like
to sleep with windows open. You never take sugar in your tea. And you always
double-knot your shoelaces.”. Katniss can only offer 5 sentences about
Peeta. Five sentences. That’s all she can offer. Whereas Delly holds
information about them at school, about his family, about his friends. Katniss
doesn’t know any of that. She just has pieces of him (the rhythm of his heart,
how he keeps still with nightmares when he sleeps, how he takes his tea, that
he paints his nightmares), but those pieces do not make a whole person. Katniss
cannot supply anything about Peeta that doesn’t
revolve around her. I have also talked about this here. And that
is co-dependency, and sad because Peeta was a person all on himself, and on his
own, and Collins fails him. And at the end of this series, he never gains
himself back. Because a kiss, and answering back always does not fix the hijacking. A kiss does not fix brainwashing sorry, this isn’t a true love’s kiss
So lol, no. He’s not important just because he
loves Katniss. He’s important on all on
his own, which is why I’m so incredibly angry at people who claim to be his
fans and are not angry about his fate. Collins took her most layered character
and destroyed him. Because all of those things listed get erased with no chance
of being brought back the second he is brainwashed. He cannot be brainwashed
with the severity of the torture explained in MJ and telling me that he doesn’t
lose himself. People love that he loves Katniss. They don’t love him. And the
tragedy of Peeta Mellark is that even those who hate him, hate him wrong, calling
him bland and boring, when their hatred should be that he wasn’t bland and boring, he was complex, human and an asshole
"#all books in this series are centered around resolving one character's pivotal flaw" ooooo can you talk more about this and how you think it will be applied in trk?
Oh sure. I hope you don’t mind my posting this publicly, but it’s always good to have these things for reference in case I ultimately end up being right.
I have noticed that at least in this series, Maggie ends up being very intentional in terms of her narration. “The Raven Boys” opens up with Blue’s thesis statement, which is that she has always been told that she will kill her true love, and how she has stayed away from kissing and boys all her life in an effort to prevent that. She’s also very prejudiced against Aglionby boys (she has her reasons, they seem to be mostly trashy privileged dudes), and she wants to be something more. She wants to be someone who is more than the amplifier of someone’s powers.
In TRB, she sort of starts overcoming all of that, or at the very least, at the end of the book she has broadened her horizons in regards to “staying away from Aglionby boys” and she realizes that there’s a different kind of magic in her raven boys’ quest. She still wants to be “something more” and wants to recreate that feeling she gets when she looks at the stars, and sort of feels it in companionship of her friends. The book starts developing something critical in her and by the end, the road to change has started.
“The Dream Thieves” is in all stretch of the concept, Ronan’s book. Once again, he’s the first narrator, and the thesis of the book has to do with the secrets he keeps and how he works them out. The whole book is a thesis of how Ronan comes to terms with what he’s capable of, and what his limits are, and how he slowly learns to accept his identity and everything that it entails. Kavinsky exists in the book to show him the alternatives and show him his options so that he can decide what to do with himself. What he’s going to choose.
“Blue Lily Lily Blue” is actually Adam’s book. He doesn’t open the narration because this book is simultaneously made of plotty things, and also extension for the conclusion of the story. But the second chapter actually starts out with “Adam Parrish was lonesome”, which is the thesis statement of his book. He is lonesome because being Cabeswater’s hands and eyes has alienated him, yes, but he is also a one-man army who has to learn how to trust and that accepting help isn’t always charity. You have his struggle with his court case and how he doesn’t want to tell any of his friends but feels alone when push comes to shove, and how relieved he feels when he realizes that he actually would have liked their standing beside him at that time. The book helps him with that arc so that Chapter 51 of BLLB is actually “Adam Parrish was awake”
and… going back to your question,
“The Raven King” is going to be Gansey’s book.
We already saw the first line of the first chapter, and it’s from his POV, and he is the only character who hasn’t been explored yet. Gansey believes that when you have a knack for finding things you owe it to the world to look. He has built his life around this premise and he measures himself and his worth and his second chance at life as valuable depending on whether or not he finds Glendower. He’s not in it for the wish; TRB told us that much, he’s in it, in a way, because he needs to feel that having been brought back to life meant something. He needs to feel like his life is worth something, that his privilege has been used for a purpose more grandiose and bigger than himself. Which is why it’s a cruelty that this is the book where he’s going to die. I think in a sense, this book is going to explore him realizing that it’s not necessarily about assigning value to his life because of his accomplishments (Gansey had forgotten how many times he had been told he was destined for greatness”), but rather by the people that are around him. That it isn’t Glendower what makes his life worth living, but the fact that he managed to build himself a family who loves him and cares for him (”they always seem to walk away from him” imagine the Gansey who thought that seeing all his friends there when he’s about to die). Gansey still needs to work out a lot of things in his character and in terribly heartbreaking Maggie Stiefvater fashion she’s probably going to have him reach the pinnacle of his arc right before he’s dead.