I’m gonna answer both these anons at once, because I feel that once again you’re not paying attention to what I’m saying. I don’t know if you only just read parts of my answers or if you read at all but obviously since you’re sending me this it means that I’ve not been explicit enough about what exactly bothers me in all this story.
Alright, first of all, I think I’ve been pretty open minded about all of this, because to me being open minded means accepting that other people don’t have the same opinion as me and agreeing to talk about it and debate about it. Being open minded doesn’t mean you have to change your opinion, and as you may have notice I have a very settle opinion about all of this. I don’t mind people having a different opinion from mine, I agree to disagree, but what I hate and that frustrates me to no end is when you deform what I’m saying or speculate about what I’m thinking and put words in my mouth.
I have NEVER said that Camila was a representative of the LGBTQ+ community, never. Have I wish for it? Damn right I did - but that’s just a wish. I have NEVER said that Camila’s silence was her way to support the Camren fandom, never. I just said that she was smart for staying silent on the subject. You can think whatever you want about that, that she’s a coward, that she’s just ass kisser with the fans or whatever, but at the end of the day she’s not hurting anybody, knowingly or unknowingly, and that to me is what matters.
I have NEVER said that Lauren wasn’t an LGBTQ+ representative, I’ve been saying the exact contrary, I think she IS a representative. I know some of you guys are gonna say “who are you to decide this for her? Maybe she doesn’t want it” And you’re right maybe she doesn’t want it, maybe the label is pushing this on her, maybe, maybe, maybe…. but whether she likes it or not, whether she chose it or not, she is. Because she publicly proclaimed herself a “proud american-cuban bisexual woman” in a powerful letter, because she talked about her experience of having to deal with her sexuality, because she made a freaking wlw song with Halsey… she did all those wonderful things and now a lot of people are looking up to her for it.
She is a representative, and yesterday she forgot that. Yesterday she made the mistake of once again pointing the finger and generalizing, putting all the hate she’s getting on the Camren fandom, once again pointing to the negativity instead of making it something positive. I get that she’s 21, she’s human, she struggled a lot to accept herself and she’s Lauren, we know she’s a hot head, impulsive, but that doesn’t excuse everything. She made that mistake not once, but twice. I know her relationship with the Camren fandom has always been a very problematic one, understandably, but she needs to put it to rest. She publicly denied Camren, it’s done. Of course a lot of haters are still gonna use it against her, but she needs to let it go, they’re always gonna be there, always, and there’s nothing she can do to about it. I just want her to try to see the positive side of all of this instead of getting so stuck on her anger.
“don’t mistake Lauren’s disregard of a singular ship as indicative of denying her innate representation. “Camren” is NOT the measuring stick of Lauren’s advocacy for LGBTQ“
In a way it is, because Lauren doesn’t try to understand the deeper meaning of Camren, she doesn’t try to understand what shipping is and what it means to people. Once again, I’m not taking away all the awesome things she’s done for the community, I just think she still has A LOT to learn.
I know that maybe I’m being a too hard on Lauren, maybe I’m expecting too much of her. And at the end of the day I’m not mad, just very disappointed.
I don’t know if it’s because I’ve been part of the fandom world for so long and I’ve witnessed how important it is for people, whether it’s fictional characters or not, because I’ve measured the impact that a ship and the representation and hope it carries has on people’s lives. The first example that comes to my mind is Clexa and the entire “bury your gays” movement - Clexa was fictional and yet it helped and moved so many people - when they killed off the character people were truly deeply hurt and revolted. Just like right now ships like Cophine or Wayhaught are making a difference in people’s lives, because the actresses portraying them embrace completely those ships, they use it to bring out positivity, and acceptance and support. Even if the actresses get shipped together in real life, it’s okay, because they understand how important it is.
I know I’ve deviated from our main subject, which is Lauren, but all of this was to say that you can’t underestimate the importance of shipping, you can’t set it aside, you can’t pretend it’s a simple sexualization when really it’s SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
I just wish Lauren would be able to see that, to understand it, and use that knowledge to spread support and positivity. An open letter is great, a song is great, but the truth is, most young LGBTQ+ people spend hours on tumblr and on netflix shipping, it’s what we do, it’s the way our generation found to create its own representation in a world that lacks so much of it. I think Lauren would have 100x more impact on her young LGBTQ+ fans if she embraced shipping than with any song or letter.
Once again, none of what I’m saying comes from a place of hate - I love Lauren, but even the people you love can disappoint you. Now I’m just really hoping that in the future her views on Camren will change, that she’ll stop carrying all this anger towards it, that she’ll try to have some perspective. I know it might take a while, because all of this hurt her for years, but maybe if she saw all the good it did, and still does, then maybe she would find a way to let it go.
Whether or not Camren is real is not the issue here, it’s what it represents that matters.