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Secret Invasion: Runaways / Young Avengers #1-3 covers 


Issue 1 cover = Hulkling (Teddy Altman), Xavin, Wiccan (Billy Kaplan) and Nico Minoru 

Issue 2 cover = Victor Mancha, Patriot (Elijah Bradley), Karolina Dean and Speed (Tommy Shepherd) 

Issue 3 cover = Chase Stein, Molly Hayes, Klara Plast, Old Lace the dinosaur, Vision II and Hawkeye II (Kate Bishop)

anonymous asked:

im so excited to hear about how it went

It was pretty anticlimactic, honestly?

Nick Spencer was signing from 1:30 to 2:30 so I stopped by around 1:40, saw the giant line, and noped the fuck out, then went to sit outside by the food trucks for half an hour. When I came back at 2:10 there was literally no line, so I entered with the two trades I’d brought to get signed (SUPERIOR FOES OF SPIDERMAN vol 3 and SECRET AVENGERS vol 1, if anyone was wondering- I genuinely do like a lot of his earlier work!) and went right to the front of the line.

I said that I was clearly a fan of his work, but I wasn’t reading or buying Secret Empire, and I hope he understands that a lot of us condemn threats on his life, but still have legitimate concerns with the project. I said that as a Jewish fan I can’t read something that makes Cap align with Nazis, and he said he understands and hopes I’ll pick it up after the series is over and we see how it all turns out.

He had the tight polite smile that I think you kind of expect when people are criticizing you to your face.

After I left the signing area I ran into a friend who had apparently been there just before me and had said pretty much the same thing. IDK if this is a sign that a lot of people were doing that, or just that I have excellent taste in friends.

Hawkeye and language

No, not an Age of Ultron joke. There are millions of different definitions of language. For the purposes of this discussion, I’ll just use a simple but incredibly broad one, partly because I’m lazy but also because it’s necessary here: A language is any structured system to convey information using symbols. Those symbols can be spoken sounds, letters, but also a lot of different things.

Hawkeye’s use of language is very interesting. Obviously the basic level here is the standard English language, but right away we see it playing with its conventions, for example in the obvious cases of internal editing.

There is always a disconnect between “actual events” and their comic version, something many comic artists and writers try to hide with realistic dialogue and graphics. This, on the other hand, explicitly draws attention to its artificial nature. It works because this is an explicit representation of Clint Barton’s point of view and mindset: This is literally what he understands. It is an expansion of the language, conveying information that normal dialogue couldn’t.

Playing with language in comics, even expanding a bit beyond realistic depiction of dialogue, is nothing new or unique, though I do always like it when it happens, e.g. this adorable bit in a preview one-shot for Gotham Academy:

A very distinctive example in Hawkguy is the use of “Bro” and “seriously”, which can be all a good dialogue needs at times.

The comic makes it obvious that the actual dialogue, and what we understand of it, are two separate things. This is a comic that likes to have fun on the written language level. But it goes beyond that.

The structure of comics is a form of language in itself, at least using the very expansive definition, and you can likewise see Hawkeye play with it to convey its information, for example by subverting our expectations…

There are many more examples. The comic loves its time jumps. One of the best parts ever is when five successive issues show the same evening, and part of its introduction and its follow-up, each from a different perspective, to understand what each character thinks, but also how they all have incomplete information. 

So far, so good. Hawkeye is a very ambitious and complex comic that pushes what comic language can do, and generally succeeds. I do think it got the whole non-linear stuff better over time; in the first issue it was harder to follow the structure than later, even though it didn’t get easier.

And then it goes ahead and invents a completely new language, for one single issue.

Here is where the expansive definition of language really becomes necessary. Issue 11, generally known as “The Dog Issue”, shows a new symbolic system that isn’t spoken, nor written, but it is a structured and effective way of telling a story. It is an interesting language, too, with the way it portrays structure mostly in form of clusters instead of linearly.

And it also talks about human language. Lucky is not a magical wonder-dog. He can’t read or speak, and he cannot really understand human language. But he does understand that it is a language, and he can understand parts of it. Which is portrayed in the comic by again, playing with language; here by only showing the words that Lucky can, in some form, distinguish. The amount differs heavily depending on the conversation, but it’s clear that he mostly gets stuff that people use to talk to him or around him. He can understand his name, various commands, but he also understands the names of the various humans in his world and various of their usual expressions. This provides a commentary on these people as well. Apparently someone taught him to understand the word “ass”, for example.

This is one of the most inventive uses of comics and their possibilities I’ve ever seen. And it works, which is by no means a given for something as complex as this. To get there, it is based on graphical symbols we can understand, but arranged in new ways to convey new information. And as the story progresses, it gradually cranks up the complexity to really spread out the dog world. 

And then they went ahead and did it again.

I’ve heard some people say that this issue is written in American Sign Language. That isn’t exactly wrong, but it doesn’t tell the whole story, because the way of representing it is new. Instead of having people use it in panel, ASL here is used outside, once more using graphical symbols.

Compare this to Batgirl (2011-) #37, where the titular hero is analyzing pictures of an impostor of hers for clues:

It’s also ASL (I’m assuming; I didn’t actually check), but in a very different role. Here it is used to hide that communication is taking place, both from the reader and from other characters. Barbara Gordon is awesome because she can figure it out anyway. (Also these aren’t holograms, it’s a representation of her photographic memory; that comics’ own visual language.)

In Hawkguy, the communication is explicit and in your face. When you think about it, these are  some of the biggest words ever used in comics.

Unlike the dog issue, these are symbols that most readers will not readily understand, and that is a huge part of the point. Language is exclusionary if you don’t know it. It was that case in issue 11, but it is much more important (and a big part of the story) here.

A minor example is shown in the same issue at the airport:

None of the people in this gang speak English well, but they speak it better than any of each other’s languages. It is something that connects them, but also highlights their differences. Two of them can’t figure out the “arrivals” sign, assuming it means “alligators”. It is meant to be universal, and that works to some degree, but it is also another form of sign language with its own barriers.

The comic also features lip reading, and again, shows a different use of language.

It is English, but filtered, distorted and unclear, and the comic takes great pains to show this. The structure of language here is unreliable, impeding communication, but in some contexts, it’s also the only way communication can take place at all.

(Also, I love how the font used for Clint shows his uncertainty with spoken language now that he can’t hear himself. It’s very subtle but effective.)

All these things are based on standard comics language, partly on standard english or standard recognized signs, but then they use it as a starting point to create something new. A side-effect of that is that it really has to be a comic. For many of my favorite other titles, I could easily imagine a movie or animated TV show or book or video game adaptation. Not here.

Hawkeye has found many fans and imitators amongst Marvel comics makers

(Secret Avengers #1, Hawkeye vs. Deadpool #0, All-New Hawkeye #3)

And probably beyond; if you know any examples, I’d be glad to hear about them! But all of them just copy the style without copying the creativity that made it awesome. Hawkeye is true art, in a way many other comics are not.

Where to start reading Hulkling (Teddy Altman)?

His first appearance was in Young Avengers v1 #1

  • Young Avengers v1 (esp #9, 10-11, 12)
  • Civil War #1-2, 3-7
  • Civil War: Young Avengers/Runaways 
  • Young Avengers Presents #2-3
  • Secret Invasion #1-8
  • Secret Invasion: Runaways/Young Avengers #1-3
  • Dark Reign: Young Avengers #1-5
  • Mighty Avengers #21-36
  • Siege #1-4
  • Siege: Young Avengers #1
  • Avengers: The Children’s Crusade #1-9
  • Avengers: The Children Crusade - Young Avengers Special
  • Young Avengers v2
  • Original Sins #1–5
  • New Avengers v4

Where to start reading Agent Venom?

Let’s start with his first appearance in The Amazing Spider-Man #654

  • The Amazing Spider-Man #654.1
  • Venom vol.2
  • Spider-Island arc
  • Minimum Carnage arc
  • Secret Avengers vol.1 #23-37
  • Thunderbolts vol. 2 #1-26
  • Superior Spider-Month arc
  • Superior Spider-Man #22-25
  • Amazing Spider-Man vol. 3 #2
  • Guardians of the Galaxy vol.3 #14-17, 21

*note: this is focused only on flash as agent venom

Where to start reading Richard Rider?

Let’s start with his first appearance in The Man Called Nova #1

  • The Man Called Nova #2-25
  • Amazing Spider-Man #171
  • Marvel Two-In-One Annual #3
  • Defenders #62-64
  • Daredevil #142
  • Fantastic Four #206, 208-209, 212, 214
  • Rom the Spaceknight #24
  • Avengers #260
  • The Mighty Thor #411-412
  • New Warriors vol.1, Annual #1-4
  • Nova vol.2 #1-18
  • Thunderbolts #1, 8, 10, 25, 56-57
  • Nova, The Human Rocket vol. 3
  • New Warriors vol.2 #0-10
  • She Hulk vol.2 #3
  • New Warriors vol. 3 #1-6
  • Annihilation: Nova, Annihilation #1-6
  • Nova: The Origin of Richard Rider
  • Nova vol.4
  • Annihilation Conquest #6
  • Guardians of the Galaxy vol.2 #1
  • I Am An Avenger #2-3
  • Secret Avengers #1-4
  • Realm of Kings #1
  • The Thanos Imperative: Ignition #1, The Thanos Imperative #1-6
Captain America vol. 5 reading order

Alright just a quick info post since we maaaaybe have a lot of incoming fans who’ll want to read this volume, as it’s the main source of modern Bucky at this time. 

As a new reader I found this volume a little difficult to navigate, so I thought I’d put together a small reading order guide to hopefully simplify it a little. It’s one of my favorite volumes but it can be hard to make heads or tails of when things happen and what comes first and…all that. 


Start with #1, of course. By Ed Brubaker.

  • #1-25 - from the start of the Winter Soldier arc, to Steve’s death in Civil War. (#10 is actually a House of M tie-in and completely outside of 616 continuity.)
  • #26 - Bucky starts as protagonist. (Additional reading: Winter Soldier: Winter Kills should happen sometime between this and #34)
  • #27-42 (Secret Invasion occurs between 42 and 43)
  • #43-50 
  • #600 - Renumber! Also, this looks like an Annual (usually a number of very short, unrelated stories) but it’s interspersed with plotty bits that set the stage for…
  • Captain America: Reborn #1-6 - Steve returns!
  • Siege occurs. Not essential reading, though the Siege: Captain America issue is a fun one-shot featuring BOTH our Captains working together. Highly recommend.
  • Who Will Wield The Shield - Just what it says on the box. With Steve back, a decision must be made.
  • #601 - another off-plot issue, a throw-back story to WWII
  • #602-619 - back on track with Bucky and friends! Steve is in and out a LOT from #606 onwards, but he is also more heavily featured in Secret Avengers vol. 1 at this time. Steve Rogers: Super Soldier also falls in this time period and is a great read.
  • Fear Itself (not a necessary read, but the events here change the Captain America line in a huge way)

THIS IS WHERE IT GETS WEIRD. At this point the series branches into three different books

  • Captain America & Bucky #620-624: The Life Story of Bucky Barnes (Essential Bucky Reading! Really do yourself a favor and read it right now. These work great as a standalone and you don’t need any prior knowledge from CA vol 5 to jump in!) 

    This series continues through #640, with another ‘Bucky’ (it’s an android) teamup in #625-627. After that it’s Cap & Hawkeye/Iron Man/Black Widow headlining, and that all comes together as one storyline from #629-640. To make things EVEN MORE WEIRD on sites like Comixology this series is listed under CA volume 1, because of the numbering. Other places it’s called Captain America & Black Widow.

  • Captain America volume 6, by Ed Brubaker, Steve is back as Captain America in this 19 issue run!

  • Winter Soldier - also by Ed Brubaker (through issue 14) and also lasting 19 issues. This series focuses on Bucky and Natasha as he returns to covert operations. (Additional reading: even if you don’t read Fear Itself, be sure to read Fear Itself #7.1 which is the prelude to this series. If you buy the trade paperback collection, it’s printed before the Winter Soldier #1 so you’re all set!)

I think that’s about it, for now. I hope this helps a few folks out, whether you’re just getting started or wondering where something falls on the timeline. 

As of this writing Bucky is appearing in All-New Invaders alongside his old pals. Be sure to check it out :D

Where to start reading Moon Knight?

Let’s start with his first appearance in Werewolf by Night #32

  • Marvel Spotlight #28
  • Spectacular Spider-Man #22-23
  • Moon Knight vol.1 (especially #1, 3, 12, 14, 25)
  • Moon Knight - Fist of Khonshu
  • West Coast Avengers #21-41
  • Marc Spector: Moon Knight (especially #1, 4, 26-31, 32-33)
  • The Amazing Spider-Man #353-358
  • Moon Knight Resurrection War
  • Moon Knight: High Strangers
  • Moon Knight vol.3 (2006)
  • Moon Knight: Silent Knight
  • Vengeance of the Moon Knight
  • Secret Avengers vol.1 #1-21
  • Shadowland: Moon Knight
  • Moon Knight vol.4 (2011)
  • Moon Knight Marvel Now! vol. 5

Also check out Moon Knight: Divided we Fall