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i may have just unintentionally challenged thor to a duel. im gonna freakin die
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“If you say ‘war’ just once more, I’ll go into the house and shut the door. I’ve never gotten so tired of any one word in my life as ‘war’, unless it’s ‘secession’. Pa talks war morning, noon, and night, and all the gentlemen who come to see him shout about Fort Sumter and States’ Rights and Abe Lincoln till I get so bored I could scream! And that’s all the boys talk about too, that and their old Troop. There hasn’t been any fun at any party this spring because the boys can’t talk about anything else. I’m mighty glad Georgia waited till after Christmas before it seceded or it would have ruined all the Christmas parties, too. If you say ‘war’ again, I’ll go into the house.” -Scarlett O’hara

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December 20th 1860: South Carolina secedes

On this day in 1860, the US state of South Carolina declared its intent to secede from the Union by issuing the Ordinance of Secession. The government of South Carolina issued the ‘Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union’ on December 24th to justify their decision; this mostly centred around the perceived federal effort to abolish slavery. Secession was prompted by the election of anti-slavery presidential candidate Abraham Lincoln, after years of tensions over the slavery issue had heightened divisions between the Southern and Northern states. Other Southern states followed South Carolina, thus forming the Confederacy who fought and lost to the Union in the American Civil War. During the post-war Reconstruction era, South Carolina underwent drastic changes, seeing the election of many newly enfranchised African-Americans to political office. However, as elsewhere in the South, Reconstruction came to a bloody end in South Carolina after a violent ‘redemption’ by white supremacists and the Ku Klux Klan, who retaliated against the increased rights of black freedmen.

Slave States Believed Lincoln Would Bring Abolition and Equality between the Races -- and They Seceded to Prevent It

Judge Harris spoke in front of a joint session of the Georgia General Assembly on December 17th, 1860. No states had yet seceded from the Union. But Abraham Lincoln had just been officially elected president, and many state legislatures were moving quickly to leave the Union. It was widely believed that Lincoln and the new party called Republican would attempt to end slavery in the south – not just prevent its spread to the west as Lincoln promised on campaign. And from there it was a short step to believing Lincoln and the Republicans wanted equality between blacks and whites.

Mississippi had already, in November of 1860, agreed to hold a state-wide convention on the question of secession. The Mississippi legislature further ordered the governor of Mississippi to appoint “commissioners” to every slave state. They were tasked with explaining Mississippi’s actions and calling for the other slave states to support whatever came out of Mississippi’s convention.

Judge Harris was a native Georgian with a reputation as a great thinker and great debater. In fact, he had been offered a Supreme Court seat earlier in the year, but turned it down believing succession was imminent. He was chosen by Mississippi’s governor to be the commissioner to Georgia for those reasons. His speech before the Georgian legislature was very similar to the other commissioner’s speeches to the other state legislatures, and Judge Harris’ conclusion to his brief address is a good example of the entire south’s thinking at the time:

Sink or swim, live or die, survive or perish, the part of Mississippi is chosen, she will never submit to the principles and policies of this Black Republican Adminstration.

She [Mississippi] had rather see the last of her race, men, women and children, immolated in one common funeral pile [pyre], than see them subjected to the degradation of civil, political, and social equality with the negro race.

The CalExit Plan

1. Let California secede after their secession vote

2. United States then annexes all of the counties in California that voted to stay. The most likely outcome (judging by the governor’s race and which states went red) would result in the vast majority of agriculture and resources back in the United States. Call it the ‘New California Republic’.

3. Offer incentives for anyone in Old California to back to America with special emphasis on businesses and anyone with military or police background.

4. Embargo Old California. Intercept any naval any or air traffic going in or out without express permission.

5. Enjoy progressives losing every presidential election by huge margins.

6. Wait for Old California to crawl back to America and treat them as a territory for ten years before readmission to the Union.

This will turn out good for everyone. (Except old California).

i’ve lived in the south all my life (not the rural south, but still the south) and the way northern liberals talk about the south is downright repugnant. “i hope the south actually DOES secede again, let’s see how long it takes for it to become a 3rd world country!!!!! fuck all the people of color and LGBT communities and women and disabled people who live there, they’re all hicks anyway!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!” 

I 100% support anybody who says “Donald Trump is not my president”. That is a completely valid view. If other people select as president somebody who you find unacceptable, you are not obligated to accept them, and you don’t have to listen to anybody who tries to shame you for that.

But I also 100% despise anybody who thinks that because their preferred candidate lost an election, that they should stamp their wittle feets and demand that the election be overturned. That’s not dissent it’s just childish bullying.

Donald Trump isn’t your president? Good. I agree. He ain’t mine, either. And these people in blue states (or counties or precincts etc) that don’t want him absolutely should not accept him or give him any legitimacy or authority. They should secede and then they can vote for whoever they want to be their president, if indeed they are truly so desperate to have one.

Man I wish NYC could secede from America.

And San Francisco.  And LA.  And Chicago.  And every other blue city in the country, because when Donald Trump starts World War III, all of the places that make really tempting targets for foreign attack did not want him to be President.  Can we go on ahead and separate ourselves before that happens?  I’m really not trynna have bombs dropped on me because Mary Sue from some nowhere place in the middle of Kanssouribraskahomakota elected a cheddar dumpling with a temper problem.

#CalExit

After slinging mud at Trump because he said he might not accept the election that email leaks revealed the DNC was coordinating with Clinton to rig…

After all that chest pounding about how disrespectful and insulting it would be for a Presidential candidate to question our flawless and perfect democratic system.

After Obama himself insisted that no rigging could take place…

After voter fraud and lack of proper ID checking was reported..

Even after giving Clinton a significant 55 Electoral Votes…

California, surprising no one, says it wants to secede from the USA because they refuse to accept Trump as President.

Good riddance, you bunch of twats.