gendry's (mis)characterization in fanfiction

an ask i received made rebloggable by request of sallyjessyrofl

hey, i saw how you tagged that post about mischaracterisation in fics with gendry and i’d be interested to hear from you about ways you agree fic writers have warped his character into some fanon personality?

(asked by anonymous)

alright sure! first of though, i just want to say that this of course doesn’t go for ALL fic writers/fics (although it is for a handful of them), and i refuse to point out any specific writers and/or fics.

tl;dr: gendry is his own person who strives to live undefined by other people and/or social barriers, yet such barriers and those above him tend to conquer his efforts. gendry is not anyone’s character to mold freely; he has is own characterization, personality, and ideals. his lowborn status has shaped him as a character and is not something easily taken away from him, and arya is not the key to unlocking his introverted personality. gendry doesn’t need arya to survive (nor her for him), and he has a characterization that expands beyond the limits of her existence.

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“Without his labour, who would the Warrior defend?”: social advancement and religion in ASOIAF through a comparison of Davos Seaworth and Gendry. by sallyjessyrofl

Gendry’s, on the other hand, is much more pessimistic. He in a sense is forced to abandon his identity, his future security, but accepts it, even continues to utilise his skill-set in new contexts. Throughout AGOT, ACOK and ASOS we see multiple examples of Gendry’s inherent kindness and strict moral code. His world is ordered, which is not surprising when we consider how his role as apprentice blacksmith saw him in direct contact with a strictly feudalistic society. By the time of Brienne’s later POV in AFFC we see how these ideas have been corrupted in a kind of horrible pastiche and radicalisation of the original mandate and functions of the BwB. Before, the BwB functioned according to Hobsbawm’s original (though not uncriticised) thesis of ‘social banditry’.


The BwB under Lady Stoneheart is a story of corruption, of an abandonment (or subversion) of fundamental ideas of the rule of law and justice-by-trial as a result of both her leadership and the context of an increasingly intensifying, demoralising war and upcoming Winter. This is reflected with Gendry…

sallyjessyrofl  asked:

Your BwB meta is the best. One of the things in the series which makes me the saddest, tbh-- their transformation from social bandits with some sense of purpose to those they originally formed themselves in opposition to.

It really is saddening. :( That’s something I don’t think the anon understood. I don’t hate the BWB because I think they’re villains – in the beginning of ASOS they’re arguably protagonists, because Sandor is still playing an antagonist role. (Albeit a deliberately reader-sympathetic one, and on reread even more so, but he’s certainly an antagonist to Arya at that point.)

But it’s in his trial you see they’re already starting to become what they were fighting against. That willingness to kill someone entirely uninvolved in the crimes they accuse him of, the guilt by association – and Beric and Thoros had been regular King’s Landing residents, they were at the Hand’s Tourney, they knew of Sandor’s animosity to Gregor… but it didn’t matter to them. All Cleganes are the same, even if one’s never touched the fighting in the Riverlands because he was in King’s Landing as they knew he was.

And if Arya hadn’t been there in the Hollow Hill with her (semi-justifiable) claim about Mycah, you think they’d’ve let Sandor go? Fuck no. They wanted to kill him, they’d’ve found some jumped up reason for a trial no matter what.

And, yeah, sure, Thoros, you saw the dead Targaryen babies… oh, wait, why were you in KL at the time? Because the high priests of R'hllor knew Aerys had a thing for fire and wanted you to convert him, right? Huh. Were you there when Aerys had Rickard Stark burned alive? Maybe not, but how about the Hand Qartlon Chested? Did you stand and watch like everyone else in the court, saying nothing? And you saw those dead children laid at Robert’s feet… but that didn’t stop you from becoming Robert’s best buddy, did it. And sure, you regret your actions before you found your faith… but I suppose nobody else regrets stuff they did in the past, do they?

It’s this absolute and total hypocrisy, that culminates in Brienne’s “trial” – Brienne, who saved the people they claim to protect while they were off on a mission of empty vengeance – but that doesn’t matter, she’s connected to the Lannisters, therefore she’s a whore who must die. It’s a damn good thing that when Jaime went off with her he didn’t take his squires… doesn’t matter that they’re children, sons of Riverlander lords, their fathers made peace with Lannisters and they served Jaime, nothing would save them.

I can understand how one might think of the BWB as heroic when hearing about them in ACOK. Or at the beginning of ASOS (even with the trial and even with how they frustrated Arya), or even at the end (because Freys, y'know). But I don’t understand how one could finish AFFC and still love them unwaveringly, still think of them as heroes selflessly helping smallfolk.

Though the anon was incorrect – hell, even I was incorrect in this post – I don’t actually hate the BWB. I’m just really, really angry at them, at what they could have been and what they became.

The Life of Tom Branson 

or, as I like to call it,

One man’s journey from republican who’s cousin was killed for “probably being a rebel” to aiding the English aristocracy, or, more specifically, aiding a man who tried to pay him off to stop him marrying the woman he loved, belittled his catholic beliefs, essentially killed his wife, and is a general arse

Dear all yous guys,

Happy Valentine’s Day!!!! Especially to these amazing people, who never fail to make me smile and laugh and who make me want to write sappy love letters to them each and every time I scroll through my dash, because they are the greatest people ever:

sallyjessyroflambotheramborandomestduckevaweaklittlelionwoman  ♥




I’m sure I forgot people, and I feel terrible about that! But this really goes out to all my followers and everyone I follow ‘cause you are all awesome ♥

She wakes up in his arms again.


She relies on more than instinct these days. It’s unnervingly human of her, and it makes her even angrier at him.

Anger is easier. She knows this.

Nymeria asks again, “Let me eat him, then”.

Arya glares. “No”, she says with finality. “He is mine to do as I please”.

It’s more than territoriality, though. When he comes to the woods, she pounces at him, throws him on his back, sniffs every crevice of his body, makes sure no one else has touched him. She marks him as hers, draws blood with her little sharp teeth, rubs her scent into his skin. It should be enough. Having her way with him, satisfying her own needs. Alas, it’s not.

There are moments of quiet, when their panting has subsided, when their hearts have found their normal paces, when his calloused fingertips draw lazy patterns on her back. Moments when she can’t help but breathe in his scent not for any sense of possessiveness, but out of simple affection. She’ll think back on these moments with anger later on, but right then she can’t bring herself to growl or snarl at him, so she lets his warmth envelop her and his quiet breathing lull her to sleep.

For Laura.

sallyjessyrofl  asked:

Hey! Thanks to your (always ace) blog I've started to read the Dunk and Egg stories. I'm on the last one now-- is Black Tom Heddle supposed to be an ancestor of Jeyne and Willow Heddle? Or have I totally missed something?

Er, the events of the story (which I won’t spoil for you) mean probably not, but he’s definitely related to them if not a direct ancestor. Tom Heddle was probably the grandson of Ser Jon Heddle, the knight who had bought the Inn at the Crossroads (then called the Clanking Dragon, before its iron black dragon sign was cut down during the Blackfyre Rebellion). There may have been other Heddles alive during the time of D&E, siblings or cousins, and odds are one of them ran the Inn, not Black Tom. (Which is a good thing considering what happens to him.) Masha Heddle (hanged by Tywin Lannister for allowing Tyrion to be captured at the inn) was probably one of their descendants, and Willow and Jeyne are her (great?) nieces.

But anyway, the Heddles are a bit more than typical smallfolk – as descendants of a knight, they own a little land, they have last names, they’re closer to bourgeois than peasants. The ASOIAF wiki doesn’t refer to them as a “House” though, so I’m not sure what the exact distinction is. I think I remember hearing that the World book may say more about the Inn, so maybe we’ll get a little more clarification there?


invocationofglamour replied to your post

heddle could just be a common name for the smallfolk though, it could mean like “hedge pruner” or something?

Nope, the Heddles who own the Crossroads Inn are definitely a family. AFFC says Jon Heddle bought the Inn and made its dragon sign, the sign was cut down when his elderly son ran the Inn during the time of the Blackfyre Rebellion, Masha Heddle was the (great?) granddaughter of that innkeeper, her nephew (the innkeeper with the whores in that Arya chapter) ran it after she was killed, and her niece Jeyne ran it after he was killed.

And this is GRRM, he wouldn’t have named the dude in TMK Heddle unless it was a deliberate connection. Especially considering the thing about the black dragon, you know?

Kate's Follow Forever

Thought I better make one of these and if I were better at photoshop, I’d make a cool graphic for it as well.

These are my favourite people and blogs; some I talk to, some I wish I could!

sallyjessyrofl  •  fizzygoodmakefeelnice  •  bamfsinireland  •  agathons  •  thebransons  •  myhopelessdreamx  •  dreamingofdownton  •  randomestduckeva  •  leave-me-your-stardust  •  andrewscotty  •  dawnofthedusk  •  thatwasnotveryravenofyou  •  lizzie83hp  •  fairestcharming  •  viserysons  •  signal-themockingjays

These are the people who come to mind when I think awesome.

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There are probably people I missed and I am incredibly sorry if you’re one of them.  

sallyjessyrofl replied to your post: sallyjessyrofl replied to your post “T…

Yeah tbh I am just as much here for their friendship times. TBH perhaps even more b/c the age gap thing is a bit much for me at acorn hall still. Honestly I kinda don’t care if they end up romantically together, them platonically together is also gr9

i defff feel that.  i sort of vacillate on it. it’s not the age thing so much as arya’s youth sometimes, but then again, she’s so old in her head that i just kind of get turned around and have to just go “welp” sometimes.

but their friendship is super important to me.

honestly, when it comes to this series, friendships and family relationships matter to me so much more than romantic ships.  like i’ve found exactly one ship that even rivals those first two dynamics. 

Myers-Briggs personalities tag.

I was tagged by the lovely labelleotero

You can take the test here.

Rules: Find out what characters share the same personality type as you here and list the characters that you find relevant below. Then tag five friends and let them know you tagged them.



You are one of the Diplomats - an empathic and idealistic individual who enjoys exploring interesting ideas and prizes morality. You are known for your deep thoughts, strong will and intuitive skills. Above you will find a brief overview of your personality traits - proceed to the type overview to learn much more about your personality type. Prepare to be impressed.

Characters Include:

  • Aragorn from The Lord of the Rings
  • Merlin from Merlin
  • Daenerys Targaryen from A Song of Ice and Fire and Game of Thrones
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi from Star Wars
  • Liz Lemon from 30 Rock
  • Will Graham from Hannibal
  • The Ghost of Christmas Past from A Christmas Carol
  • Mako Mori from Pacific Rim
  • Beca Mitchell from Pitch Perfect
  • Christine Chapel from Star Trek: The Original Series


restersimple, sallyjessyrofl, tudor-roseabigailstoyboxfaensoundslikefun

I’ve been tagged by: tudor-rose  and sallyjessyrofl (thank you, my darlings ♥).

1) Post the rules.

2) Answer the questions set for you, then make 11 new ones.

3) Tag 10 people and send them a link to the post.


1. If you could master any skill, what would it be?

There are so many things I would like to be able to do but the one skill I would like to have the most is the capacity to speak every language in the world. 

2. Do you play a musical instrument?

Well. I can play the piano. Awfully. But I love it ♥

3. Do you have a favourite smell?

I love perfumes in general. After I took a course in artistic perfumery I started trying to identify to which category a perfume belonged to: chypre, fougère, floral, woody, etc. What I love the most is a perfume who is powdery ‘at the heart’ and floral 'at the head’.    

4. What do you want to achieve in life?

I want to be happy. I don’t want to be rich nor famous. I want to have a job that I love, my friends near me, a family and a immense bookcase.

5. What is/are your favourite book/s?

Medea by Euripides, War & Peace by Leo Tolstoy and Persuasion by Jane Austen.

6. Who inspires you?

I love to take inspiration from historical women: Boudicca, Anne Boleyn, Mary Wollstonecraft, Nancy Wake. 

7. Do you have any plans for the Christmas season?

Just passing time with family and friends :)

8. What is your favourite time of year?

Christmas, of course! 

9. Do you have any beliefs?

Oh, yes. I believe in friends- I am not the perfect friend but I always try to be- I believe in the fact the friends are the family we choose. I believe in honesty, no matter what: I don’t steal, I don’t skip queues, I don’t cheat (plus, if I try you can read it on my face). I believe in books, I believe that reading is a complete human experience- I don’t believe in people saying 'I’d rather live than read’ because reading is an irreplaceable part of life.   

10. If you were to write a book, what would it be about?

Writing a book has been my greatest desire for a while now. I have an original story I would like to tell and I am incredibly fond of it. Because of this fondness I feel like I need to get better first- I have abandoned and destroyed many projects because of my un-satisfaction with shaky beginnings. Currently, you can read my Persuasion 1984 which is a re-telling of Jane Austen’s Persuasion, an exercise for me, which you can find on my blog. Anyway, I would write an historical novel. 

11. If you could meet one person from history, who would it be?

Must I choose only one? What if I tell you that I would have liked to meet Anne Boleyn in the summer of 1516 while she was staying in Burgundy? In that same year, at that same court, Leonardo da Vinci was a guest of the Duchess of Burgundy and might have met Anne herself. What if I tell you I would have spent one day in Burgundy in 1516 with Anne Boleyn AND Leonardo da Vinci? It sounds like a good compromise to me! :)


  • what was the first pokemon game you owned? if you’ve never played pokemon, i’m confused and need to know why your childhood was deprived of this
Never played pokemon. I didn’t like it. I was the kid who wrote down a story in bullet point and then ordered her Barbie dolls to re-enact that same story. Or playing at creating a tragic love story with a tiny Polly Pocket and a huge stuffed giraffe. That was me.   
  • do you ever rest your chin on your boobs for comfort? because i do, it’s the shit
I don’t. I don’t have enough boobs. So. I’ll never know.
  • what’s your favourite brand of alcohol? what type of alcohol should just be banned because it’s icky?
Grey Goose for Vodka, Carlos Primiero for Brandy and Martini for White Vermouth. I know this will sound very un-pirate-like of me but I dislike Rum.  
  • when was your first (proper) kiss? would you kiss this person again? (i mean, if they’ve aged up like you, otherwise this question gets a bit dodgy)
I was 14. I would not. I am too cool now. Maybe I was even then, I just didn’t know :D
  • what’s your favourite historical period?
Ah, LAura. You can’t ask this kind of things to people. Let’s say 19th Century. A tie with Classical Greece, 5th century BC.
  • which family member do you most look like?
My dad. I mean, Laura, you met my mum, I look nothing like her! And, I even have my dad’s temper. 
  • baked/chilled cheesecake?
Nope, I don’t like cheesecakes. I cook marvellously- no, seriously, I really do- I love to cook, especially for others. But not cheesecakes. 
  • who is your favourite adventure time character? if you’ve never seen it, do it now please.
  • how awesome is your mum? not as awesome as mine, obvs, but elaborate
Laura, you know how awesome my mum is. She will buy you ice cream, hug you even if she has just met you, and ask you if she can adopt you and keep you because she loves you already. Then you have to find a way to get rid of her, but that’s another story.
  • i once saw a couple making out for 10 minutes at a museum. what is the most disgusting example of PDA you’ve ever seen?
Ew, that is pretty 'not-okay’. Once I saw a couple kissing and calling each others with pet/amorous names at a queue in a Postal Office.
  • what childhood film that you loved now makes you feel uncomfortable?
None. I am still 4 inside. I still watch the Disney’s Christmas Carol in August. With no regrets.
  • let’s see you can revive an old tv series, with any changes you want OR you can adapt something that hasn’t been adapted yet— what do you do? i want details, too. like, casting and nerdy thoughts.

I could write an entire book from this question.

I would have totally loved a TV series based on Greek Mythologies or on King Arthur. Do you want to know both? Are you sure? No, okay, I will spare you the King Arthur one. Because, you know that after this I am totally going to do graphics and write stuff about this thing and then post it all and wait anxiously for you all to like it and reblog it and tell me how awesome I am.

*EDIT: Ok, this thing is too long so I am going to do a specific post for this one.

Blame Laura.


My Questions:

  1. Tell us the Actor/Actress you would like to meet the most who is not from your country.
  2. That book you wish you had never read. 
  3. Do you wear make-up? Why?
  4. Do you enjoy classical music? Which composers?
  5. How do you see yourself in 20 years?
  6. A cuppa tea or coffee?
  7. Football or Tennis? Or what sport you like the most? Not necessarly the one you play.
  8. Ballet or Opera?
  9. Mary I or Elizabeth I?
  10. Which is your favourite TV series right now?
  11. Which is the Christmas present you received this year you have liked the most?