rounding up jews

Trump rounding up illegal immigrants and Hitler

If you think Trump rounding up millions of people to imprison, and then ship them off isn’t eerily similar and comparable to Hitler rounding up millions of Jewish people to send them off, then you are being willfully blind.

The people of Germany weren’t immediately told that Jews were going to be exterminated.  The Nazis hadn’t initially planned to exterminate Jews.  Nazi persecution of Jews was gradual and incremental.  First a hatred of Jews was developed through propaganda.  Then boycotts were implemented, which were acceptable.   Laws were enacted, which were tolerated.  Then Nazis began rounding up Jews and sending them to concentration camps.  Germans knew what was going on, but it wasn’t them so they stood by in silence. (Other groups were also targeted, but they were minority groups (i.e. gays, gypsies), so the German people did nothing).  By that point, Fascism had settled in, and speaking out was no longer an option even if they had wanted to.   

After they started putting Jewish people in concentration camps, Nazis came up with the “final solution” in 1942, 10 years after they came to power.  The final solution was not attributed to a single decision or one particular incident.  It was an incremental process.  The Nazis believed that Jews were the only aliens to Europe and did not belong (sound familiar?).  Hitler initially wanted to relocate Jews out of Europe (sound familiar?), but when that became impossible, the final solution was developed.  The final solution was to exterminate all Jews.

Nazis came to power in 1933.  The people of Germany stood by and let the Nazi treatment of Jews gradually get worse, until it ended in the Holocaust.  When Nazis began to ostracize the Jewish people in the early 1930s, the people of Germany probably did not think it would end in the death of millions of people because they were different.  When Nazis first started rounding up Jews, they did so because they basically saw them as illegal aliens who had no right to be in Europe.  They imprisoned them with intentions to send them away.  When relocating Jews became impossible, they decided to kill them.

Trump and his ilk see illegal immigrants just as Nazis saw Jews, as aliens to the United States who have no right to be here.  Like Hitler, he wants to round them up and imprison them.  Like Hitler he then wants to relocate them (or send them back to where they came from).  What happens if just like in Nazi Germany, relocating illegal immigrants becomes impossible? 

Do we want to take a wait and see approach?  Should we just be silent?  Oh it can’t happen here people say.  How many Germans do you think thought the same thing in 1933?

This is the United States of America.  Is this really who we want to become?  Do people need to be remembered who we used to be:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Great story of a righteous man: Chiune Sugihara, who saved 6,000 Jews from the Holocaust. He was a Japanese diplomat in Lithuania. When the Nazis began rounding up Jews, Sugihara risked his life to start issuing unlawful travel visas to Jews.

He hand-wrote them 18 hrs a day. The day his consulate closed and he had to evacuate, witnesses claim he was STILL writing visas and throwing from the train as he pulled away. He saved 6000 lives.

The world didn’t know what he’d done until Israel honored him in 1985, the year before he died.

If you want to know what Drumph really means when he says he wants to identify and “round up” certain groups “humanely,” just remember that the last time Nazis ruled a country, they told everyone they were just rounding up the Jews to “relocate them” to areas that needed repopulating.

And if you think it can’t happen here, it HAS happened here. Not death camps like the WWII Nazis ran, but concentration camps, nonetheless. And ironically, this was while we were fighting Nazis in Europe. If you don’t want to take my word for it and don’t want to research it yourself, ask someone like George Takei, who can tell you first-hand about how the US government seized the property of Japanese Americans, and stuck them in concentration camps.

Tactic for debating Muslims: The “Horowitz” Ultimatum

Any time you are in a debate with a Muslim person, particularly about Islam itself, before addressing anything else, ask them if they will condemn Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and the Muslim Brotherhood.

These are all extremist or terrorist groups. Failure to publicly condemn them is a sign that the person you are arguing with is either an extremist themselves or at the very least a sympathizer, and should be at the very least shamed, and at most reported to the authorities and put on a watch list.

This tactic is named after David Horowitz, who famously used it to get a female Muslim college student in the USA to admit that she supports the rounding up of Jews in Israel so that they can be more easily slaughtered. Horowitz himself is a Jew.

Chiune Sugihara, saved 6000 Jew’s lives. He was a Japanese diplomat in Lithuania. When the Nazis began rounding up Jews, Sugihara risked his life to start issuing unlawful travel visas to Jews. He hand-wrote them 18 hours a day. The day his consulate closed and he had to evacuate, witness claim he was still writing visas and throwing from the train as he pulled away.The world didn’t know what he’d done until Israel honored him in 1985, the year before he died.   (source)


Number 1 reason why I think this man is a sociopathic liar playing on people’s feelings.

Let me enlighten you with a history lesson, I learned this my freshman year of high school so I’ll do my best to explain. World War I Germany was in debt to multiple countries and gave some of their land up to neighboring countries. Due to the treaty of versailles Germany had to take full responsibility for loss and damages (we went to war with Iraq and we were in a recession, 1940s was the Great Depression.) long story short Germany got fucked by the central powers and everybody was angry. Then the nazi party started to rise but at first they were all about making Germany great again (huh, I feel like I’ve heard this before.) this man, Adolf Hitler, knew his way with words. Some say he was a charasmatic man, others say he was the symbol of Germany’s liberation. Now he didn’t all of a sudden round up all the Jews and kill them in death camps. Over the course of 5 years he implemented the Nuremberg Laws which became more restrictive to Jews. He blamed the Jews for fucking over Germany and persuaded people to fear them (propaganda.) Then he put stars on them to identify them (similiar to Donald trumps idea.) Nobody knew to take this motherfucker down until millions of Jews were massacred in the holocaust. Donald Trump’s ideas are very Hitleristic and he’s playing on the fears of Americans because they’re sick of being in a recession so he points fingers to one group of people. I am scared that if he becomes president that history will repeat itself.

Tl;dr Donald Trump is the Hitler reincarnate and his tacky suits are made in China.

Reading reviews on Race, I’m seeing exactly what I was worried about, which is the exact same set of things that might get the movie an Oscar (aside from it being a black triumph over struggle with the invaluable help of a white guy that’s literally called Race).

  • The whole “the US was uncomfortable with Nazi Germany” myth. The US had plenty of supporters of Nazi Germany, including major businessmen and political figures. I mean, IBM’s machines were integral to the Holocaust, and the dude directly responsible for the supply and maintenance of those machines, who went over there in 1933 right after the Nazis took power to help them prepare for the census whose purpose he knew was to round up Jews and other “undesirable groups” and put them in the concentration camps that were already sparking some level of international outrage, and who got a medal from Nazi Germany in 1937 but didn’t even feel uncomfortable enough to send it back until 1940 (both dates, you’ll notice, being after the 1936 Olympics that provide Race’s backdrop). There was a plot for a fascist coup in the US that reportedly involved a lot of prominent businessmen. The US was only nominally anti-fascist as a country until entering the war, and the US didn’t enter the war because of fascism or the Holocaust.
  • The whole “Jesse Owens was a symbol of anyone-can-make-it American exceptionalism triumphing over Hitler’s white supremacist views, which America totally didn’t have” myth. Apparently the film shows him facing racism in the movie (which I’m sure is Hollywood Racism, always overt and always solved by friendship or courage), but still plays into the idea that it was just Hitler that pushed the idea of the Aryan ideal rather than being the leader of a movement that sought to achieve it through genocide. We had our own eugenics movements here, including state-sponsored programs that lasted into the 1970s and 1980s. They didn’t include rounding up any ethnic groups–at least not for genocide. But “at least we didn’t gas anyone” doesn’t play as well in a feel-good America Beats Racism film. This whole mythology also fed the gas-inducing thinkpieces on why Sam Wilson should never have been made Captain America in the comics (that Steve Rogers’ Cap represented the Aryan ubermensch kicking the Reich’s ass, rather than the Western ideal generally, which is ridiculous and ahistorical). Jesse Owens did confront by virtue of his victory the ideas of white supremacy, but the overall ideas and not simply those of the Nazis.
  • The whole “Leni Riefenstahl was fighting Hitler on racism” mythology, which Hollywood loves because it helps explain why her films are shown in film schools and why she’s regarded for her technical prowess without anyone having to feel conflicted about it. She did have a complicated history with the Nazis, with her role as a propagandist, and with racial stuff, certainly, but the whole apparent subplot in the film of Hitler–who, unlike FDR, shook Owens’ hand and congratulated him on the victory and sent him an autographed picture–angrily demanding she cut the Owens footage and her refusing, which is ahistorical. Which is obviously not to say that Hitler was better than FDR or that he was not Literally Hitler, just that this line of mythology serves America and Hollywood but simplifies that era in a way that hurts our understanding of it.
  • The whole “America treated black people bad, but you should have seen how black people were treated in Germany!” mythology, which simply serves to excuse American racism and place us way farther along on our imagined road to Our Current Post-Racial Society™ than we could be depicted as with the remotest bit of honesty. The policies regarding black people in Nazi Germany were more or less the same as the ones in the US, except that Jesse Owens was allowed to stay in the same hotel as the white people when he went to Berlin but had to take a freight elevator in the Waldorf Astoria to his own reception in New York after he won.

It irks me how much we minimize and whitewash this country’s past even as we attempt in these vain and self-serving ways to atone for that past.


A miraculous survival—a Torah scroll from a once-vibrant Eastern European Jewish community.

On September 3, 1942, leaders of the Jewish community in Wolbrom, Poland, collected and buried all their Torah scrolls, including this one, in the Jewish cemetery. It was a sign of doom and despair. Two days later, Nazis rounded up Wolbrom’s Jews, shooting them or sending them to concentration camps.

After the war, the son of the community’s Rabbi who helped bury this Torah located it and returned it to the Jewish people. It was donated to the @museumoftolerance, where it is now proudly displayed.

In the Holocaust Exhibit at the Museum of Tolerance, visitors journey down the streets of Berlin during the Nazi rise to power, experience the shock and confusion of ordinary people who happened to be Jewish, and even step through the passageways that separated millions of families forever.

Today is the #LAInstaFling. 12 Los Angeles museums have swapped Instagram accounts, sharing themes, photos, and stories from places around the city. See everything from the swap here

And see our posts about the Museum of Tolerance here.