“We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remember the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says: “Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.“
We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty, and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, ‘Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.’ I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
German Americans are the USA’s #1 heritage group and have been influential in almost every field in American society, including science, architecture, business, sports, entertainment, theology, politics, and the military. Famous German-Americans include:
MILITARY: Baron von Steuben, John Pershing, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Chester W. Nimitz, Carl Andrew Spaatz, Norman Schwarzkopf
POLITICIANS: Carl Schurz, Friedrich Hecker, Frederick Muhlenberg, Henry Morgenthau, Jr. and Sr., Dwight D. Eisenhower, Herbert Hoover, Henry Kissinger, and John Boehner
INDUSTRY & BUSINESS: Henry J. Heinz, (Heinz ketchup), Frank Seiberling (Goodyear Tires), Walt Disney (Disney), John D. Rockefeller (Standard Oil), William Boeing (The Boeing Company/United Airlines), Walter Chrysler (Chrysler Corp), Frederick & August Duesenberg (Duesenberg Automobile Corp), Studebaker brothers (Studebaker Automobile Corp), George Westinghouse (Westinghouse Electric Corporation), Levi Strauss (Levi’s jeans), Charles Guth (Pepsi cola), Bill Gates (Microsoft), Elon Musk (SolarCity/SpaceX/Tesla Motors), James L. Kraft (Kraft Foods), Henry E. Steinway (Steinway & Sons pianos), Charles Pfizer (Pfizer, Inc.), Donald Trump (The Trump Org), John Jacob Astor (Waldorf Astoria Hotels), Conrad Hilton (Hilton Hotels), Guggenheim family (Guggenheim Foundation), Marcus Goldman (Goldman Sachs), Lehman Brothers, Carl Laemmle (Universal Studios), Marcus Loew (MGM Studios), Harry Cohn (Columbia Pictures), Herman Hollerith (IBM)), Steve Jobs (Apple Inc.), Michael Dell (Dell Inc.), Eric Schmidt (Google), Peter Thiel (PayPal Inc.), Adolph Simon Ochs and Arthur Ochs Sulzberger (The New York Times), Charles Bergstresser (The Wall Street Journal), Al Neuharth (USA Today), Eugene Meyer (The Washington Post) etc.
BEER BREWING: German Americans were pioneers and dominated beer brewing for much of American history, beginning with breweries founded in the 19th century by German immigrants August Schell (August Schell Brewing Company), Christian Moerlein (Christian Moerlein Brewing Co.), Eberhard Anheuser (Anheuser-Busch), Adolphus Busch (Anheuser-Busch), Adolph Coors (Coors Brewing Company), Frederick Miller (Miller Brewing Company), Frederick Pabst (Pabst Brewing Company), Bernhard Stroh (Stroh Brewery Company), and Joseph Schlitz (Joseph Schlitz Brewing Company).
ARCHITECTS, SCIENTISTS & ASTRONAUTS: Brooklyn Bridge engineer John A. Roebling and architects Walter Gropius and Ludwig Mies van der Rohe left behind visible landmarks. Albert Einstein, J. Robert Oppenheimer, Wernher von Braun, John Peter Zenger, John Steinbeck, Kurt Vonnegut, Joseph Weizenbaum etc. set intellectual landmarks while Neil Armstrong was the first human to land on the moon.
HOLLYWOOD PEOPLE & SPORTS ATHLETES & MUSIC: Still others, such as Bruce Willis, George Eyser, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Jack Nicklaus, Doris Day, Grace Kelly, Clark Gable, Marlene Dietrich, Johnny Weissmuller, Ernst Lubitsch, Walter Damrosch, John Denver, John Kay, Meryl Streep, Kim Basinger, Sandra Bullock, David Hasselhoff, Leonardo DiCaprio, Kirsten Dunst, Kevin JameS, and Steven Spielberg became prominent athletes, actors, film directors or artists.
“We knew the world would not be the same. Few people cried. Most people were silent. I remember the line from the Hindu scripture… Vishnu takes on a multi-armed form and says: Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.”
When allofthefeelings and I were waiting to meet brianmichaelbendis at Special Edition, she said to me that the one question she wanted to ask him was whether, in examining Howard and Maria Stark in the new Iron Man run, he would deal with the question of Tony’s parents’ religion, and whether either or both of them might have been Jewish.
She didn’t end up asking that, but it’s a question that’s important to me, too, and of course, when I saw this ask and answer yesterday, it’s the one thing that came to mind to me. I read through the other commentary on the post and noticed some dick jokes, but no one actually talking about the question of what this might mean from a religious standpoint. In the annals of Marvel Comics history, there’s no real evidence that either of them might be– and to be fair, it’s still quite common for most American boys to be circumcized, Jewish or no, and depending on what year you want to peg as Tony’s birth in the Marvel timeline, it would be likely for him to be circumcized as a Christian, but given that Ultimates Tony has a Latina mother who was also a scientist, and the nature of Ultimates Tony’s birth and subsequent physical state versus what we know currently about 616 Tony’s adoption, the question of one or the other Tony’s religious heritage was absolutely the one thing that sprang to mind when I saw this.
Always remember that the original writers and artists of Marvel were Jews. They were Lieber and Kurtzberg before they were Lee and Kirby. Joe Simon was Hymie Simon. Their narratives are, in my opinion, inherently Jewish ones, and acting like the original Marvel characters (with the exception of Ben Grimm) must be Christian because that’s the dominant religion in the US is kind of silly.
Stark is typically a German surname, but that included plenty of Jews. The word שטאַרק (shtark) is a Yiddish variation of the word “stark”, meaning “strong”, and a quick google search indicates that it would not be unusual for a German Jew to carry this name.
Howard was named for his father, Howard Sr., who lived in America. I’m going to assume that his grandfather was an immigrant, although their legacy in America could go back further. It seems likely then that his grandfather immigrated sometime in the mid-19th century.
Howard is certainly not a Jewish name, but neither is my own grandfather’s. Plenty of Jewish families gave their children “American” names. See this post for more detail.
He worked on the Manhattan Project—since he’s a fictional character, we should draw parallels between Howard and the actual scientists involved. The most famous would be J. Robert Oppenheimer (Jewish). Then there’s Leó Szilárd (Jewish) and Albert Einstein (Jewish), who penned the Einstein–Szilárd letter together. Generally, these are agnostic or atheist Jews. Einstein actually remarked on the number of Jewish scientists he worked alongside during this period.
Watching him testify before congress in Agent Carter, I couldn’t help but think of the ease with which American politicians have accused Jewish-Americans of being traitors to the country. Yes, the show is also evoking the Howard Hughes Senate hearings, but those hearings were not about Hughes’ loyalties, they were about his use of government funding.
I do not enjoy World War II narratives that don’t include Jewish characters (Dr. Abraham Erskine is never confirmed to be Jewish), and the first Captain America film essentially skirts over the Holocaust in its depiction of the war.
I like Jewish or half-Jewish characters who make people go “oh no they can’t be Jewish” because I want everyone to know about their secret prejudice.