anonymous asked:

I'm not overly familiar with the books and perhaps this question was answered already, but what do the Dornish think of Robert Baratheon and Ned Stark, particularly Oberyn and Doran Martell? I have to imagine they're not overly fond of Robert, but Ned Stark was outraged at the brutal murders of Elia and her children. That being said, Ned was one of the main parts of a coalition that overthrough the Targaryeans, which directly led their deaths.

We don’t have much to go on for what the Dornish thought of Robert Baratheon. We know the Martells were willing to toe the line, but both Oberyn and Doran were not happy that the murderers of Elia and her children were pardoned and married into the royal family. The extras in the DVD’s for the show have Oberyn suggesting that Robert would have lost his foot had he set it in Dorne, and that doesn’t seem out of place for Oberyn. But that’s a pure surface-level reading. We know that Jon Arryn went to Dorne with Lewyn Martell’s bones, and persuaded Doran to calm Oberyn. So agents of the crown certainly were able to go to Dorne even when the wound was fresh.

As for Eddard, the Daynes seem almost fond of him. Edric believes that he and Jon Snow shared the same wetnurse, Wylla. Eddard was known to be enamored of Ashara Dayne, and though he slew Arthur Dayne, he returned Dawn to Starfall. So the Daynes love good loveable Ned.

As for the Martells, we don’t hear much, but I’m willing to believe that Doran Martell recognized Eddard’s condemnation of Elia’s murder. Clearly, that recognition wouldn’t go so far since Doran plots to uproot the Baratheon dynasty, a move that was sure as hell going to cost Eddard his life if it was successful. It’s just one of the casualties of his plot, much like Kevan Lannister is a casualty of Varys.

Thanks for the question, Anon.

SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King

anonymous asked:

Dont know if this has already been covered, but in regards to Renly's conspiracy to have Robert put Cersei aside for Margaery, how likely was that? I know Cersei believed it could happen, but was there precedent for Robert to do so? I mean it seems as thought Robert were considering it at when he mentioned it at the hand's tourney, without seeming to even suspect Cersei's infedelity to use against her.. Or was it all based on Renly revealing her relationship with Jaime? And, if he knew that..

The conspiracy only really makes sense if Renly knew of the incest. There’s no real precedent for disinheriting all of a first wife’s children in exchange for a second. The times in Westerosi history that have had the naming of an alternate heir, or even the threat of such, have been periods of marked instability. Maegor did it to Jaehaeys, the future Old King, when he was found to have escaped his clutches, and it was a civil war (albeit one Jaehaerys won most handily). The Great Council between Laenor Velaryon and Viserys Targaryen was marked with agitation from the Rogue Prince and the Sea Snake. Rhaenyra and Aegon II was the Dance of the Dragons. The possible naming of Daemon caused the First Blackfyre Rebellion, and there was enough staying power in that to launch five generations of strife.

Renly, no novice at politicking, could hardly be expected to be in the dark when Stannis, Jon, Varys, and Littlefinger all knew of it. The conspiracy works when there’s a method to remove Joffrey and Tommen from the line of succession. Otherwise, you’d have an incredibly pissed off crown heir who hates his half-brothers and stepmother.

As for Robert, he seems to be more interested in removing himself from Cersei’s nagging, content to let the politics play out such as they do. While Robert has no strong love for Renly, he certainly views him as more trustworthy that Cersei and the Lannisters by a fair margin, so he’s not like to involve himself in something that he views as petty, worthless, and above all, wouldn’t matter until after he died.

So in short, Renly absolutely knew about the incest. His ACOK chapters with Catelyn prove it, but he has to deny it for the time being because it isn’t politically advantageous for him to do so. If he had moved before the Margaery-Robert marriage was in place, his Tyrell shadow backers get nothing, and Renly is left without much to call as support. The Stormlands was fairly ambivalent about Renly, with many meeting Davos in secret after Renly had declared himself king, and declaring for Renly because he had the massive Reachmen army. This all takes place before that, which means that Renly has no 80,000-strong army to force the issue. So he’s playing his game very carefully, making sure all his pieces are in play before he gets the Tyrells behind the Throne, The hunting accident and Ned’s refusal to back him, however, forces his hand.

Thanks for the question, Anon.

SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King

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“Prince Rhaegar had two children,” Ser Barristan told him. “Rhaenys was a little girl, Aegon a babe in arms. When Tywin Lannister took King’s Landing, his men killed both of them. He served the bloody bodies up in crimson cloaks, a gift for the new king.” And what did Robert say when he saw them? Did he smile? Barristan Selmy had been badly wounded on the Trident, so he had been spared the sight of Lord Tywin’s gift, but oft he wondered. If I had seen him smile over the red ruins of Rhaegar’s children, no army on this earth could have stopped me from killing him.

// Henry Cavill as young Robert Baratheon, Golshifteh Farahani as Elia Martell

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