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Silver Theory

Okay so last night I was way too tired to really post about all this, but now I’m wide awake. So let me start by saying that the things I post on here are just my theories, so don’t freak out or anything because nothing is confirmed. I know I probably confuse a lot of you because I always have different theories, but I honestly can’t help it. Silver was the very first character that I truly believed was Harley. Then I started to see Lee showing lots of characteristics of Harley, and it made me kind of doubt that Silver was. I didn’t doubt Silver because of Lee, I doubted her because she wasn’t posting about Gotham and she was no longer on the show and there were no hints of her coming back on the show or anything. I’m honestly conflicted because I truly believe either Silver or Lee is Harley. It’s a really tough choice because I absolutely love Lee (Morena), but I absolutely love Silver (Natalie) too! Honestly, I will be happy if either of the two is Harley. A lot of people wanted reasons that she could possibly be Harley, and now I’m awake enough to answer. Just be warned, this post might be a bit long.


Reason number one: She can change her personality on a whim.

When she was with Bruce she made herself appear to be kind and timid, etc. But when she was alone, or with Theo and Tabitha she was cold and self-confident. But she’s not completely heartless. She can be nice when she wants to be. Like for example, when she thought Bruce was being tortured she was screaming for them to stop. She also tried to stop Theo from killing him. So she can be manipulative but she also still has a heart. Harley is kind of the same way. She’s a bad guy but she still has a heart. If I remember correctly Harley and Ivy saved a little girl that I think was getting abused. I honestly don’t remember it that well. So both Silver and Harley can be mean, but also still have a heart.

Silver’s personality when manipulating Bruce.

Silver’s true personality.


Reason number two: Her character in the show doesn’t match the one in the comics AT ALL.

Silver in the comics isn’t related to the Galvan’s in any way. She is also supposed to be one of the first people to figure out Bruce is Batman. Silver is known to be a seductress in both the comics and the show.. well Silver in the comics seduces Bruce for sexual reasons. Silver in the show seduces Bruce to manipulate him for her Uncle. Two totally different reasons. I know in the comics she is supposed to have this off and on relationship with Bruce, but Bruce strictly told her “Silver, I don’t love you. I pity you.” And I think he even said, “I have no feelings for you what so ever.” Or something along those lines. So I don’t see them getting back together (Not that they were even really together in the first place.) Go look Silver St Cloud up, you’ll see her comic version and TV version doesn’t match at all.

Reason number three: ‘You may have already seen Harley as a person that you thought you had met and known for a long time.’

Silver hasn’t shown a crazy side yet, as far as I know, but from what I remember Harley doesn’t start acting crazy until after she meets the Joker (Jerome). Even though she wasn’t on there but seven episodes (same amount as Jerome) we still knew her character for a while. I think they could have meant this in a variety of different ways. Like maybe the character that is going to play Harley has been on the show a long time (Like Barbara and Lee), we just didn’t recognize her as Harley. Or maybe the character was shown a few times (definitely more than an extra, but maybe less than a regular) and we didn’t recognize them as Harley (Like Silver).

Reason number four: ‘The person is somehow connected to the Joker Cult World.’

Her and Jerome haven’t met yet, but I actually see this as an advantage. Both Jerome and Silver were working for Theo, but it never showed them meeting because Theo killed Jerome before they had a chance to. Silver was connected to Theo and Tabitha, as was Jerome when he was working for them, therefore she is connected to Jerome. Which would mean she’s connected to the ‘Joker Cult World’. So she is indeed connected.

Reason number five: She is still alive.

The last time we saw her was when Tabitha pushed her out the window to escape Theo. Ironic, huh? Considering Joker pushes Harley out the window in the animated series. Anyway, we don’t know where she went or what happened to her after that. All we know is she is still alive. We don’t see her anymore after that episode.. although we do see Tabitha again. She more than likely went to School somewhere, and slept her way through it like Harley did. She could be an intern right now for criminology. The point is she’s still alive. The writers could have killed her off, so why didn’t they? Most likely so they could bring her back.

Reason number six: Little Minx

Let’s not forget that Alfred called her a little minx.. and what does the Joker call Harley a lot? “You clever little minx.”

Reason number seven: Harley’s appearance in the finale.

The writers said Harley is appearing in this season’s finale and is gonna be the launching point for Season four. Once again this could be taken in different ways, but the way I took it though is Harley is gonna appear, like she’s gonna show up in Gotham. The only person we’ve seen on the show that could be Harley, that could just show up is Silver. I think it was Ken Woodruff who said Harley’s appearance in the in the finale ‘is gonna be crazy’. I’m not positive if it was Ken that said this, but I do know it was definitely one of the producers that said it. Silver coming back could be crazy.. Honestly who knows what the writers have up their sleeves.

Reason number eight:Daddy’s Little Monster.
On Harley’s shirt in Suicide Squad, it says ‘Daddy’s Little Monster.” Well it just so happens that Silver’s in an episode of Gotham called ‘Mommy’s Little Monster.’ This episode is the one that Silver’s true colors are revealed for the first time. It kind of reminds you of Jerome in a way. In his very first episode, he was acting fragile and innocent. Then he shows his dark side, his true self, in the interrogation room. Silver was acting like the sweet girl next door type, then as soon as she and Selina were alone she showed her dark side, her true self.

Harley’s Shirt in Suicide Squad.

The list of episodes Silver is in.

Jerome acting innocent.

Jerome showing his true colors.

Silver acting innocent.

Silver showing her true colors.


Reason number nine: She fits

If the show was to stick with Harley’s real appearance and the age thing and all that, Silver would match the most. She has blonde hair.. she doesn’t have blue eyes but I really don’t think that matters anyway. Also she is younger than Jerome, just like Harley is younger than Joker. I know a lot of people are dead set on Harley being younger. I think she was maybe sixteen or seventeen in Season two and Jerome was eighteen. She may be younger than that honestly. Season takes place a year after Jerome’s death. This would make her character either seventeen or eighteen, and Jerome nineteen (or twenty) give or take.

Reason number ten: Just imagine it

Seriously, just imagine it <3 I can picture her and Jerome being partners in crime like Joker and Harley, and Jerome making her distract/manipulate people with her seductiveness, while he steals or something. Silver is an excellent manipulator.. if she manipulated Bruce for her uncle due to fear, imagine what all she would do for Jerome due to love.. because we all know Harley is crazy about Joker. As I already stated above, she’s younger than him, and though I don’t think that has anything to do with it, she’s very manipulable. She proved that in season two, following her uncle’s every command. A lot of people think Harley needs to be someone who can be manipulated easily. Well Silver definitely could.

Reason number eleven: Foreshadowing or coincidence?

Like I said in a recent post, I believe that the show gives us hints and clues. Like the fact that Silver was introduced the very next episode after Jerome’s death. That once again makes me think of Joker and Harley. For me, when I think of Harley I automatically think of the Joker. And when I think of Joker, I automatically think of Harley. They’re a package deal in my eyes. But of course, I think of Joker first because he’s the leader. The more dominant one in their relationship. So for them to introduce Jerome first, and then introduce Silver the very next episode after Jerome’s death, really seems like a clue. Also in Silver’s last episode, she said: “That’s show business.” Both the Joker and Harley are famed in the Batman universe for their showbiz-style roots (Stole that, but it’s true). Also the fact that the writers decided for her true self to be revealed in the episode ‘Mommy’s Little Monster’ makes me think it’s another clue.

This picture reminds me of Jerome.

Jerome (Joker) putting on a show for his cult (followers).

A clue in my opinion.


Reason number twelve: Natalie and Cameron giving clues.

Okay, so last night Natalie posted a gif of her and Cameron at the Vanity Fair. Her caption was ‘Jerome & Silver take over? Thank you @vanityfair​ for a beautiful night xxo @cameronmonaghan @gothamonfox’. Several things caught my attention on this post. First, as far as I know Cameron and Natalie have never met before. Like I said, as far as I know.. I’m honestly not sure. Maybe they have met before and we just didn’t know it. They never posted about the other, took pictures together, or anything. It’s like they didn’t know the other existed (figure of speech). I remember stalking both their accounts a while back and if I remember correctly neither of the two were following each other on their social media accounts. Then one day out of nowhere, they’re at the same event together, and they’re taking goofy pictures with one another and mentioning the other in tweets. Natalie is now following Cam on both Instagram and Twitter. I’m not sure if Cameron is following her or not, but still. Another thing that caught my attention was she used ‘Jerome and Silver’ instead of ‘Cameron and Natalie’. So I take this as a clue. On twitter Natalie posted a gif of her and Cam at 3:52 am, where they’re both acting like she’s punching him. Her caption says the same thing as her Instagram post. Then Cameron tweeted her back at 1:21 pm,  which was another gif of them, and his caption was 'Was fun! Grats on your good news!’ This caught my attention as well. They’re all of a sudden having contact with each other, she used their character’s names instead of their real names, and now Cameron congratulated her on her 'good news’. So I decided to do some digging, which wasn’t really digging considering it was her next post. On February 18, she posted 'big news to come!!!! xxo’ Honestly I think that news is her coming back to Gotham and becoming Harley. And the fact that she told Cameron about it, someone she’s never met before and isn’t close to, makes me really think it’s Gotham related :) Also Nat is following Maggie Geha (Ivy) and we all know Harley and Ivy have an off and on romantic relationship. She’s also the right age to date Jerome, date Ivy, and be part of the sirens. I know Selina and Silver hate each other right now, but maybe over time Selina will get over what happened and them become friends. Silver only threatened her and manipulated Bruce because Theo made her, I think I remember him saying 'I need you to ensure that no one else is whispering in his ear until I make my offer.’ This was before she went to Bruce’s and threatened Selina. She was only doing what her uncle asked her because she is afraid of him, and also because her family is all she has.


Reason number thirteen: Natalie has what it takes.

From my knowledge, Natalie is very flexible. She did a back bend on the red carpet, and she also does Arial Yoga. Harley is obviously an expert gymnast, and I believe Natalie can pull that part off. A lot of people don’t want her to be Harley, because they don’t like her character, Silver, but that’s what makes her such a great actress. It’s easy for people to like characters, but it takes someone really talented to make the audience hate their character. I believe Natalie could be the perfect choice for Harley. She has the looks, she’s younger than Jerome, she’s practiced gymnastics (from what I can tell), she matches up with all the things the writers have said, and.. let’s face it, she and Jerome would look so hot together! I still love Lee with all my heart, and I will be thrilled if it is her, but honestly I think I want Silver to be Harley just a tad bit more. I swear I’m not hating, because honestly I love Lee and I also love Jerome and Lee’s chemistry <3 But Silver was the very first person I wanted to be Harley, and now that I’m seeing clues again, I’m really hoping she is.

She was wearing five inch heels while doing this.

Aerial Yoga.  

I know this post probably doesn’t make sense , but these are just a few reasons why I think she’s Harley :)  If you don’t like the idea, that’s fine, but please be respectful is all I ask. I think it’s either Silver or Lee.. I would honestly be happy with either. Oh, and please don’t stop watching the show if it doesn’t turn out who you want it to be. I understand how it could be upsetting, but this is a show, and if you liked it before, don’t let something so little make you stop watching the show. We are Gothamites, we don’t love the show because of ships.. even though they are a big bonus. If everyone was to stop watching shows because something didn’t turn out the way they wanted, then there would honestly be no shows due to low ratings. Like if Barbara was to become Harley, it would take a lot for me to get used to the fact, or at least warm up to it, but I wouldn’t stop watching the show over it. Just be reasonable guys :) <3