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anonymous asked:

I was wondering why you find Ten taking away Donna's memory as violating her? She would have died if not. We don't know if she would have rather died with her memories than lived without, but Ten had to make a decision at that point and there was no way he was going to let her die. It's not as if he bragged about his plan to do so, much like Twelve did. The difference with Twelve and Clara is that Clara was already dead, he had already screwed up by saving her before the Raven.

Eight.

The number of breaths I took before I began to type this response.

Hello, Anon.

I’ve been sitting on this Ask for a while because it’s emotionally draining for me to deal with that Donna Noble scene. I will answer your Ask, but I will not be remotely swayed from my position on this issue. If I debate something, there’s a possibility I could change my mind. This is not up for debate. Thinking, talking, typing about, and worst of all watching that scene make me physically nauseous.

We don’t know if she would have rather died with her memories than lived without, but Ten had to make a decision at that point and there was no way he was going to let her die.

Yes, we do. It’s made explicit in the dialogue:

DONNA: I thought we could try the planet Felspoon. Just because. What a good name, Felspoon. Apparently, it’s got mountains that sway in the breeze. Mountains that move. Can you imagine?
DOCTOR: And how do you know that?
DONNA: Because it’s in your head. And if it’s in your head, it’s in mine.

Donna knows everything the Doctor knows.

DOCTOR: And how does that feel?
DONNA: Brilliant! Fantastic! Molto bene! Great big universe, packed into my brain. You know you could fix that chameleon circuit if you just tried hotbinding the fragment links and superseding the binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary, binary. I’m fine. Nah, never mind Felspoon. You know who I’d like to meet? Charlie Chaplin. I bet he’s great, Charlie Chaplin. Shall we do that? Shall we go and see Charlie Chaplin? Shall we? Charlie Chaplin? Charlie Chester. Charlie Brown. No, he’s fiction. Friction, fiction, fixing, mixing, Rickston, Brixton. Oh, my God.
DOCTOR: Do you know what’s happening?
DONNA: Yeah.

Donna doesn’t even look at him. Her voice is low and heavy. She knows. She discusses this with him without questions because everything in his head is in hers and she doesn’t need to be told she’s dying, she knows.

DOCTOR: There’s never been a Human-Time Lord meta-crisis before now. And you know why.
DONNA: Because there can’t be. I want to stay.
DOCTOR: Look at me. Donna, look at me.
DONNA: I was going to be with you forever.
DOCTOR: I know.
DONNA: The rest of my life, traveling in the TARDIS. The DoctorDonna.

She begins to cry during this speech. She’s dying and she knows it. And then - and THEN she looks at him and her mouth falls open. She gasps and starts stepping away from him because everything in his head is in hers. She realizes only a beat after him that there is one other option and she actively retreats from him because she does NOT want it!

DONNA: No. Oh my god! I can’t go back. Don’t make me go back! Doctor, please, please don’t make me go back!

She is crying, pleading, shaking her head, telling him not to force her, and most importantly saying NO. Donna Noble knows what the Doctor is about to do to her because everything in his head is in hers and she says no verbally and physically, but he takes her arms and holds her in place as she pleads with him to stop!

DOCTOR: Donna. Oh, Donna Noble. I am so sorry. But we had the best of times.
DONNA: No.
DOCTOR: The best. Goodbye.
DONNA: No! No! No, please! Please. No! No! NO!

She is shaking and sobbing and SCREAMING NO.

Eight.

The number of times Donna Noble tells the Doctor “no!”

Donna Noble knew there were two options and she rejected the one that save her life and simultaneously cost her her mind:

  • She rejected it when she backed away from her best friend knowing that he intended to violate her mind.
  • She rejected it when she frantically shook her head no.
  • She rejected it when she clearly said and then screamed no EIGHT TIMES.

When a person tells you no eight goddamn times, they do NOT mean yes!

And since Donna can’t remember to remind you what no looks like, I will: