respect-for-women

docloudscomeinpurple  asked:

but if haggar is lotor's mom how could he NOT respect women. he probably grew up watching his mom be a total badass and when he hears people's sexist garbage he probably thinks "my mother would turn me into a robeast for saying that."

That’s right, Lotor’s mama didn’t raise no fuckboy :v I can’t wait to see them interact in s3!!

I don’t even know where to start with most of this.

“Last time I checked [feminism] was not hating guys.” If we thought Monnie wasn’t a feminist simply because he was a dude, then why do we all love James Olsen? Or Winn? I guess we must hate Adam Foster and Carter Grant, too? And damn, none of us wanted to see more of Jeremiah Danvers last season either, huh? No one thinks your favorite white boy isn’t a feminist just cuz he’s a dude. If you think that’s why, then you’re seriously misreading any argument we’ve ever made.

“My boyfriend and some of his male friends think feminism is hating men because of the internet.” All that’s telling me is that your boyfriend and his friends probably don’t actually respect women and likely don’t listen to women when they try to explain what feminism actually is. Because if they did, they’d know better than to listen to anyone on the internet who says feminism is about hating men. They’d know that feminism is about equality and that most people who call themselves feminists are fighting for equality for everyone, including men who are hurt by sexism and heteronormativity and the patriarchy as a whole. If they can’t come to their own conclusions about what feminism is truly about, that’s on them, not on “the internet.”

I do agree with you that feminism should not include sending death threats or really nasty hate to real people over the internet, whether they’re actors or just normal fans. I have never condoned that, nor will I ever. I think we can all agree that there are people like that in EVERY fandom, who take things way too far and are just awful people in general that no one else in the fandom actually wants to associate with. 

However, as for attacking people for “not liking what you like and thinking what you think,” the Karamel fandom is just as bad at that as the Supercorp fandom. It’s how became what you might call a “brat” or an “anti” in the first place. I got attacked just for DISLIKING what some other people liked and having the gall to say so in a public forum. You attacked me first. I can’t speak for anyone else’s experience, but what I’ve seen of the SG fandom is that anyone who doesn’t like one ship or another tends to get attacked by die-hard shippers no matter WHICH ship it is: Karamel, Sanvers, or Supercorp. Negative opinions apparently are never allowed. 

I’m not sure what “shit” you think we’ve made up to prove that Mon-El isn’t actually a feminist, so I’ll skip past that.

Mon-El has actually NOT always admired Kara for being a superhero. I’ll direct you to episode 2x06 in which Kara discovered he was a thug for hire and called him out for using his powers to hurt people less powerful than him. Mon-El’s response to Kara doing so was to tell her that she was only a superhero because she “loved the attention” and that she was “no saint.” Yeah, real admiration he was showing there. Shortly afterwards, Alex tries to get Mon-El to go out and do something to help people since he has the ability and reminds him that Kara saw something in him of worth and his response is “go believe in someone else.” In 2x08 and 2x09 he intentionally goes against Kara’s orders and does the exact opposite of what she asks him to do, which puts more lives in danger and then when Kara calls him on it, he generally blames Kara for his actions instead of taking responsibility. In 2x08 (Slaver’s Moon) he tells Kara that she is “the winner” of finding trouble.

I’m sure you’ll look at all of those and brush them off as just him still needing to learn and still growing so let’s skip ahead shall we? 

In 2x13, when Kara is refusing to KILL SOMEONE (this is generally considered a noble thing to do, to allow a bad guy to live and defeat him another way, true justice as opposed to just vigilante justice) Mon-El tells her that she is a bad judge of character and “off the charts full of herself.” They have already found out that there is a way to defeat Mxyzptlk without killing him, so this isn’t just Kara ignoring Mon-El’s “more experienced” advice as you might argue. Kara knows there’s a way to do this without killing and just because it’s difficult doesn’t mean it’s not worth trying that as a first resort and leaving killing as a LAST RESORT. But apparently not wanting to kill someone means that you’re full of yourself on Daxam. I wonder how many people Mon-El killed so he could be considered not full of himself. Probably not many given how badly he did against Mxyzptlk and how awful a superhero he is (he literally fails pretty much every time he ever tries to do something). Anyway, neither of those insults sound particularly admiring of Kara’s rather noble refusal to kill someone and heroic effort to try to find a way to defeat a fifth-dimensional being without resorting to murder.

How about 2x17 when Kara had a bounty on her head? Mon-El suggets going off to a whole different planet, just the two of them, and Kara refuses, saying that she doesn’t just run from her problems instead of actually facing them. Mon-El’s response? “That’s one of the more annoying things about you.” Again, that’s a direct response to her being more heroic and noble. He finds it ANNOYING, not admirable. In 2x18, Kara decides to go to the restaurant Lena is at because Mon-El tells her that Lena called and wanted Kara to talk her out of going on a date with Jack (this is after Lena specifically wanted Kara to come with her to the presentation since Jack is “her Kryptonite” and she was worried about going alone). Mon-El calls Kara’s desire to protect her friend from an uncomfortable situation “creepy” and “stalkerish.” Again, not so admirable. 

Mon-El has always been a fair weather friend. He “admires” Kara’s heroism only when that heroism doesn’t offend him or go against something he wants to do (or wants Kara to do). As soon as some of Kara’s more heroic actions become a problem for him, that admiration goes away. Funnily enough, it is possible to admire Kara’s heroism and nobility even if you disagree with the actions she’s taking. He can tell her he thinks her plan won’t work or that his way might achieve the results better without INSULTING her, but it doesn’t appear he knows how to do that. When the going gets tough, Mon-El’s admiration gets gone.

I haven’t made up anything in any of these scenes. All of these are scenes IN CANON that you can find. All of these insults he uses when Kara’s heroism goes against anything he tries to do or advise Kara to do, are CANON. I didn’t make any of the or take them out of context. In fact, I did my level best to PROVIDE the context in each of these examples. But yeah, sure, none of these mean anything at all. 

And yes, he objectifies women. HE LITERALLY ADMITS TO IT! There is a CANON quote of his wherein he says “Things were easier on Daxam when I could objectify women and not care about anyone.” HE SAID THAT! How the hell can you try to say that he DOESN’T objectify women when he literally admits to it himself! And not even in a “Yeah I used to objectify women but now I know it’s wrong” way. He says he MISSES being able to objectify women. The only reason he DOESN’T anymore is because he knows he’ll get in more trouble if he does it now than he used to when he was literally the Prince of an entire planet and no one could tell him “no.”

As for Eve. My precious, beautiful, WONDERFUL Eve Teschmacher who deserves so much more than to be a punchline for every man’s male ego joke. My problem with the way he handled Eve was not just that he had sex with her. Had that been all that happened I wouldn’t have had as much of a problem with it because, as you say, they were both consenting adults and she appeared to be into it at the time. But it wasn’t even the first thing that had happened that day nor was it the last. The first thing Mon-El does to Eve is manage to convince her to do his work as an intern for him. Eve is an executive assistant to the CEO of a major media company. We know from everything we saw Kara do for Cat in Season 1 that this is a busy, difficult full-time job that doesn’t leave time to do SOMEONE ELSE’S work for them. We know Eve is clearly attracted to “Mike” and that Mon-El does not want to do this job, he makes that VERY clear all throughout this episode and the next one. He is frustrated and angry with Kara for making him take a job he doesn’t like (though he doesn’t give it much of a try). Mon-El literally sees Eve’s attraction to him and convinces her to do his work on top of her own, with what appears to be no compensation (unless the sex was supposed to be that compensation?). And after Kara finds the two of them in the copy room, comes the scene where he manages to convince Eve to GIVE HIM MONEY. HER hard-earned money because he wants to go to an event that he was not invited to. Lena comes into CatCo to invite Kara to her gala and Mon-El overhears this and basically invites himself to the gala, too (despite Kara telling him no). As soon as he gets his yes, he turns to Eve and asks her for money so he can buy new clothes for this event. Why Eve? Why not ask Kara for help (she literally dressed him for work just that morning, she clearly has access to guy clothes)? Why not ask the DEO for help, since they’re supposed to be taking care of him at that point since he crashed to Earth and has no means of survival yet? But no. He asks the girl he’s already been able to manipulate once to give him money so he can go to an event he was NOT INVITED TO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

That’s not even going into what he did in 2x12 when he took her on a date just to make Kara jealous and spent the ENTIRE DATE talking about Kara instead of focusing on Eve. Again, he could have literally picked anyone to take on a date to try to make Kara jealous and if he were actually just trying to move on (as some of you have argued he was actually doing here), then why choose Eve? Why choose the human who has no clue who he is instead of, say, someone from the alien bar who is much more available to him (given that he works there) and already knows who and what he is. But no, he chooses the girl who works with Kara and who he has already been able to manipulate TWICE. The girl he’s never spoken about or gone to see once since he quit his internship at CatCo. He USED Eve to make Kara jealous enough to go out with him. He didn’t care about her at all.

Oh yeah. What a feminist aoc he is.

I don’t even want to really touch the casual homophobia displayed by your comment that everyone would be okay with casual sex if it were two women just because tumblr has an obsession with non-canon lgbt couples. Did you ever stop to wonder that the reason people like them is because mainstream media refuses to make many actual canon lgbt couples and likes to force every straight couple ever into a relationship just because it’s the default, whether the characters actually work together or not? People see chemistry where they see chemistry and if you’re going to get upset that you’re not being allowed to ship Karamel just because you happen to see chemistry between THEM then you sure as hell don’t get to stomp all over people for seeing chemistry where THEY see it, no matter what genders the two characters are. We see chemistry between two women (or two men) that is usually portrayed as a really strong friendship that gets built up for a long time. Straight ships will literally get together after maybe two scenes together and you’re supposed to believe it was love at first sight and apparently that’s more believable than that two really close friends might get together after several years just because one is a straight couple and one is not. 

As for the comment he makes towards Maggie and Alex, I’ll admit it can be (slightly) up to interpretation. But the comment “the more the merrier” does imply more “hell yeah threesomes” than it does “love is love.” He says Daxam is more open-minded, but then he makes that comment which does seem to imply that Daxam is only okay with same-sex couples (or, specifically, lesbian couples since no one brings up gay men) because it seems them as sex objects. They never touch on the subject again and he doesn’t say anything about it again, so for the most part I’m going to let that go. I don’t like it and I do think it’s proof that he is at least somewhat homophobic, though not as bad as he could be, certainly.

And yes, there’s obviously cultural differences that should be taken into account and if you want to put it in a real life context, we can do that, too. Mon-El isn’t just some backwater dude who grew up on Daxam and never left his hometown and doesn’t really have any clue how other people view these cultural differences. He is not your average immigrant or refugee (or even just a traveller) who has no idea what things are like outside of his own country. This is more like if Prince William went to Mexico to stay for a while because England got blown up somehow. He’s done a lot of traveling in his time and really can’t claim that he has no idea what anyone else’s culture is like or the problems people have with his own culture. There are going to be cultural differences, yes, but if he’s going to call it his home, he has to learn how to be respectful of THEIR cultural as well. To go back to Mon-El, he was a Prince of his planet, not a random citizen. We know he’s travelled to different planets (there could even be an argument made that he has definitively travelled to planets without slavery at the very least). We know he’s at least somewhat aware of the complains Kryptonians had about Daxam and its culture, he just doesn’t agree with any of them and actively tells Kara she’s a terrible person for stereotyping (and then at the very end of the season he doesn’t defend any of the Daxamites and chooses instead to differentiate himself from all of them by saying he’s “not as kill-y”). So he has to be as least somewhat aware that his behavior and some of his cultural customs are not widely accepted everywhere he’s going to go. More than that, he should be more accepting of making sure he’s adapting to his new home’s culture. Like getting a respectable job. And not being sexist. Almost no one in the show actively tells him off for some of the shit he pulls until it gets REALLY bad (like when he’s beating up a random alien for money). And when they do, he gets all defensive about it instead of trying to get better. Kara and Co. actually treat him with a shitload of patience and kindness in regards to his cultural differences (keep in mind he took an innocent human bystander hostage and threatened his life the first time he left the DEO to try to send a signal to Daxam). He gets SO MANY SECOND CHANCES it’s not even funny. 

Because in the real world? Shit like sexism and homophobia and racism are still unacceptable even if they’re coming from an immigrant or a refugee or a random traveler. Shit like that still deserves to be called out, no matter who is doing it. There are cultural differences and then there’s just bigotry. Just because Mon-El grew up in a society where he was allowed to be selfish and sexist and homophobic does not mean that being selfish and sexist and homophobic are suddenly okay. That’s not how this works.

And if you think we’re not standing for anything, then you’re not paying attention. You literally are using the word “psycho” to describe people you don’t like, a term that mentally ill people have asked not to be used just to describe people with morals you don’t agree with since it can send the wrong message about actual mentally ill people. And that’s not the first ableist term I’ve seen Karamels use. Not to mention all the sexist slurs I’ve seen going around on your side of the fandom. The Supercorp fandom has its own bad eggs that have used slurs of their own and they tend to get shut down pretty quickly as far as I’ve seen (not that I’m claiming I know everything the fandom has ever done, but what little I know about I remember getting a lot of negative feedback from people in the SC fandom). A lot of people in your fandom like to hate on James Olsen and talk about how you want him to die. I’ve seen people in your fandom say they think it was a bad idea to racebend the comic book character and that’s why you don’t like him. Whereas the Supercorp fans will get just as excited about James and Karolsen as they do over Lena and Supercorp. Supercorp fans are happy with any love interest for Kara that doesn’t eclipse her narrative or force her to give up her beliefs. That includes Lena, James, Lucy, Cat, even Adam or Diana Prince. It’s not just about “who makes Kara happy” because the actors can get told to act happy and scenes where she smiles can get written in. We’re more worried about what MAKES SENSE for the character as she was written in Season 1 and what gives Kara the best narrative overall. Episodes that focused on Lena tended to be the ones that actually allowed Kara her own narrative whereas episodes that focused on Mon-El generally sidelined Kara as just a side character in his narrative. Nothing in Season 1 ever had James Olsen or Kara’s relationship with him seem more important than Kara’s personal narrative and character growth. But Mon-El and HIS “hero’s journey” constantly seemed more important this season than Kara getting her own narrative. 

We’re standing for female lead characters being allowed to have their own narrative in a show named after them. What are you standing for? Male slave owners being seen as just as feminist as anyone else?

anonymous asked:

Rank A1 from your favorite to least favorite!

An 18 way tie between Izuku, Uraraka, Iida, Todoroki, Kirishima, Tsuyu, Aoyama, Hagakure, Satou, Jirou, Shouji, Yaoyorozu, Ashido, Ojiro, Sero, Tokoyami, Kaminari, and Kouda 19 Bakugo he’s improving but has said and done some very unforgivable things in canon, and hasn’t improved enough to really whole heartedly call one of my faves, but a lot of you like him so that’s cool! 20 Mineta I have a legit theory that if he respected women he would have been a fan fav, but apparently you can’t have a Shonen jump series that’s pervert free so were stuck with him.

Originally posted by kotoha

anonymous asked:

Jay Park doesn't fetishize black or Latina women. He's actually really nice to them and respects them. The black women and Latina women he fucks with don't have big butts or breasts. He sings about it because that's what sells.

I mean but isn’t singing about that kinda of still fetishization? Just because you don’t believe what you’re saying doesn’t make it less harmful especially when it’s being listened to by millions of people. Plus, all of Jay’s stuff sells so that’s no excuse.

I personally don’t know if he fetishizes them (are his lyrics hella misogynistic from what I’ve heard? HELL YEAH!) or not because I don’t listen to that much Jay, nor would I ever want to. But if what people are saying is true then *shrugs*

Ass man:

  • Respects women
  • Mature and emotionally stable, has good prospects for the future
  • Studies philosophy and literature in spare time
  • All around good taste in media and fetishes
  • Most likely sexually active

Boob “man”:

  • Sweaty and insecure, probably runs a porn blog titled “appreciating the female form”
  • Manchild mentality - thinks breasts are more interesting than they actually are
  • Cries himself to sleep nightly
  • Probably has a foot fetish too
  • Years of nonstop hentai consumption means he genuinely believes breasts move like that IRL

i hope men would start respecting women not because they’re in a relationship or because they love their mothers, sisters, or daughters, but because we are as human as they are and above all, we deserve to be respected too.

Jesse McCree voice line suggestions

  • “What’s the difference between the law and women? I respect women.”
  • “Don’t tell me to shoot straight. I ain’t doin nothin straight.”
  • “I like my hat like I like my men. On me at all times.”

Some of the best things I’ve heard in Heathers rehearsal so far:

  • “Oh no! My shirt, where’d it go?” followed by really slow and awkward finger guns
  • “Free pizza, and we don’t even have to buy it a pussy!”
  • “Those stupid tree thumpers”
  • *dramatically pirouettes and leaps in* “BIG SWORDFIGHT IN HER MOUTHHH”
  • “Aww that seems like a relationship that would last.” “Yeah until one of them blows up” “I guess you could say their love is….. explosive”
  • *Our choreographer screaming like one of those sheep used in parodies back in vintage youtube days whenever she gets frustrated or needs to get people’s attention.*
  • “So you’re going to do a Jesus lift” “A WHAT” “Just put your arms out and they’ll lift you like you’re Jesus resurrecting from the cross”
  • “Welcome to Newsies on steroids.”
  • “Be the closeted gay we all need.”
  • “The first step to any good plan is murder.”
  • “How much bitch is enough bitch though?”
  • “Imagine having to explain to someone like ““oh how’d you break your tailbone?” ““Oh I booty-popped too hard.”” 
  • “When we go off to makeover Veronica, can she still have the monocle, but, hear me out, it’s now bedazzled.”
  • “I have to check the historical accuracy of bedazzling in the ‘80s.”
  • “Okay, but what if we made it gay?”
  • “COSTUME NOTE: SOMEONE MAKE RAM PARTY SLIPPERS!” “What if they’re like bunny slippers, but with tiny party hats?!”
  • “This is Ram, he’s not very nice, but somehow my best friend still wants to fuck him.”
  • “Your whole bio better be about how much you love and respect women or else I can’t help you when your ass is being kicked.”
  • “I paired you guys together because you say he’s your sort of boyfriend later.” *Kurt proceeds to emark in various sexual dance endeavors with multiple other women* “That’s where the sort of comes into play….”
  • “SHUT UP HEATHER” *bursts out crying*
  • Our original Chandler dropped out so our original Duke got promoted to her role and just looks at me and says “Oh my god this is the most Heather Duke thing that has ever happened to me”
  • “That’s a school cheer?!?!”
  • “Real question: WHO HAS A FUCKING LOCK ON THEIR CLOSET?”
  • “What if when she makes you spit up the pills, your wig flies off?” “Oh no you’ve discovered the real reason behind my crisis, I AM NOT A NATURAL BLONDE”
  • “Maybe he should take up knitting or something as a hobby rather than therapedic murder.”
  • “The saddest thing is that’s not even 3rd base”
  • “Veronica, you’re soaking wet!” *cue our assistant stage manager loosing her shit*
  • “My character description is just internal screaming.”
  • “Who needs a dance partner when you have weed?”
  • “I feel bad having to ask but was that supposed to be a dick joke?”
  • “Do I get extra points if one of the pills hits someone in the face?”
  • “I can’t remember the lyrics but I’m pretty sure I’m still gay”
  • “Why didn’t they just throw the bomb and run or something, like why are they so determined to die?” 
  • *recites Blue Reprise as demonic slam poetry because we didn’t have rehearsal tracks yet*  
  • “Veronica, it’s not a phase. I’m just naturally a slightly psychotic bag of angst with great hair.”
  • *music director teaching us Blue* ”They’ll curl up on your face. And purr like-” *slowly looks up from music and proceeds to put his head in his hands* “There’s moments that I evaluate my life and this is definitely one of them.”

And we’re still about 3 weeks from tech week