floacist: The ratings did drop. Season 1 never dipped below the 3 million mark. Season 2 never reached the 3 million mark. Of course ratings were never going to absolutely tank.
I never said they didn’t drop. I said they didn’t SIGNIFICANTLY drop. Also, that’s not correct. S1 did drop below the 3 million mark - several times. S2 also had ratings above the 3 million mark - several times.
Ratings have come up a couple times so I’m graphing it because A) It’s hiatus and I’m bored B) I’m a little crazy C) Graphs are pretty.
There was about an 11% decline from S1 and S2. The argument is the Oliver & Felicity storyline is geared to a small segment of vocal internet fans who make up about 3% of the viewing audience. My argument is that IF that was true, if the general viewing audience didn’t like Oliver & Felicity, IF Olicity was fan pandering, you would see a ratings drop a HELL of a lot higher than 11%. In actually, the ratings drop for Arrow began around mid S1 and carried through S2.
Season 1 episodes 1-11 averaged 3.47 million viewers. Season 1 episodes 12-23 averaged 2.95 million viewers. A 0.52 ratings drop. Season 2 episodes 1-11 averaged 2.8 million viewers. Season 2 episodes 12-23 averaged 2.44 million viewers. A 0.36 drop. The drop began in S1. Did it continue in S2? Yes, it did. Was it significantly more? No.
The average ratings for S1 was 3.68. The average rating for S2 3.28. However the largest drop in ratings Arrow had was from the pilot through episode 7. The pilot is far and away Arrow’s highest rated episode. So much higher, it significantly helps S1 numbers. The first 8 episodes of Arrow averaged 3.61 million viewers. If you remove those first 8 episodes, the rest of S1 averages 2.95 million viewers. A level of viewership that carried through mid S2, then resulted in a slight (but not significant) decline through the back half of S2.
My argument is that the decline in ratings can be attributed to what I call a “shake out”. From S1-S2 Arrow was losing the viewers that tuned in occasionally and shaking out to their core audience.
IF Oliver and Felicity weren’t popular among the core audience, I believe there would have been a higher ratings drop. Why couldn’t it be steeper? If Olicity is as hated as people say, pandering to the 3% of crazy Internet fans, then the core audience would have turned away significantly more by mid Season 2. I’m not saying there aren’t people unhappy with Olicity, but my personal opinion is their popularity equates to more than Internet fandom.
Arrow has more storylines happening than just it’s romantic ones (thank God). Also, several things effect ratings, so it can be difficult to tie it to one storyline. That being said, S2 wasn’t a particularly heavy Olicity storyline. Keep in mind, Oliver was with Sara for a good chunk of S2 and we had Olicity scenes sprinkled into a much more prominent Deathstroke storyline. Now, if S3 has a more heavily featured Olicity storyline and the ratings steeply decline…well then I guess that’s our answer.
However, at this point in the series, I don’t think the argument is fair that Olicity is fan pandering. The ratings prove that. Additionally Arrow’s ratings still make it the most watched show on The CW. It is also the number one show for males 18-34 in it’s time slot.
It’s not blackface because you don’t believe it’s blackface?
This is not a discussion about proving Zoe’s blackness. This is a discussion about the lack of opportunity in Hollywood for actresses who actually look like Nina Simone without make up. Actresses who’d never get offered half the roles Zoe does. The many actresses Zoe’s stepping on by accepting this role.
Yall are trying to make it a “we’re black too” argument when it’s clearly a “why are they putting dark make up on this mediocre actress when there are others more qualified (in the talent and looks department) to play the role"
Tempted only by that which we attempt to suppress. The side of self that is rejected by self. Split. Separated by a dividing line, existing within the subscription to descriptions of translated articulations. Blame will get little further than compensation, and since success is a journey not a destination what exactly will one win? It’s a shame to be ashamed of our true nature, or to assume that half living is divine.