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anonymous asked:

Besides Loras is there any other evidence that Renly looked down on Brienne?

I don’t think and don’t remember that Renly ever treated Brienne with open contempt; he gave her the public honor of a rainbow cloak the moment she asked for it without sneering or even batting an eyelid at her being a woman, he let her carry his standard and help him don his armor; in other words, on the surface, he was courteous and respectful of her dignity and role as a member of his kingsguard. So I’ll credit him for that. This is also why it’s hard to find objective evidence of Renly looking down on her, since we don’t have his pov.     

We have however Catelyn’s impression of the Brienne/Renly dynamic, and it’s not positive:

The way she looked at the king - looked down at him, she was a good hand higher, though Renly was near as tall as his brother had been - was painful to see.

Brienne dropped to her knees. “If I must part from Your Grace, grant me the honor of arming you for battle.” Catelyn heard someone snigger behind her. She loves him, poor thing, she thought sadly. She’d play his squire just to touch him, and never care how great a fool they think her.

Brienne was on her feet as well. “Your Grace, give me but a moment to don my mail. You should not be without protection.” King Renly smiled. “If I am not safe in the heart of Lord Caswell’s castle, with my own host around me, one sword will make no matter… not even your sword, Brienne. Sit and eat. If I have need of you, I’ll send for you.His words seemed to strike the girl harder than any blow she had taken that afternoon. “As you will, Your Grace.” Brienne sat, eyes downcast.

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filmiratas  asked:

This has probably been asked a hundred times, but how would have Stannis fared against Renly's forces at Storm's End?

He would have had a hard fight ahead of him, but it’s not impossible. By using fieldworks and the disciplined archers we saw drilling on the Prologue, Stannis would have tried to pull off a Crecy or a Nagashino, using that to break up Renly’s cavalry charge. Given Renly’s strategic incompetence and use of untested generals in the van, the repulse of the first charge would have caused much dissent and desertion in Renly’s ranks as his knights of summer flounder at the first kiss of real war.

Thanks for the question, Film.

SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King

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Margaery Tyrell Fancast

A few days past, he had taken Ned aside to show him an exquisite rose gold locket. Inside was a miniature painted in the vivid Myrish style, of a lovely young girl with doe’s eyes and a cascade of soft brown hair. Renly had seemed anxious to know if the girl reminded him of anyone, and when Ned had no answer but a shrug, he had seemed disappointed. The maid was Loras Tyrell’s sister Margaery, he’d confessed, but there were those who said she looked like Lyanna.

i-just-like-commenting  asked:

Maybe you've answered this already (your backlog is huge and search only gets me so far) in which case link me up, but what do you think would have happened if Jaime and Brienne hadn't been captured en route to King's Landing? Would they have made it there before Sansa's marriage to Tyrion? How would a two-handed Jaime handle keeping his oaths and his desire to publicly marry Cersei? Would Brienne have wound up dead on suspicion of killing Renly? Or would she make it out of KL?

Generally my what-if answers are tagged what ifs, although a few particularly interesting/well-developed ones are tagged alternate histories are fun! However, I don’t believe anyone’s ever asked me this particular question before. Though if they had, I don’t think I would have had an answer, nor do I have one now, sorry. I’m afraid I just can’t see any way of working with the plot of ASOIAF with a Jaime who doesn’t have the life-changing moment of losing his hand, which leads to his bonding with Brienne, loss of being Cersei’s mirror, further rejection of being Tywin’s dutiful son, coming too late for Joff’s wedding and Sansa’s escape, etc. It’s not interesting to me, far less interesting than the actual events of the books, and the “wrong!” gong banging in my head is too loud to consider possibilities. Some fic writer might care (can’t imagine it would be a J/B one though), but I’m just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , sorry. Or maybe it should be ¯\_(ツ)_/

But @racefortheironthrone will be doing Jaime III of ASOS in a few months in his chapter-by-chapter analysis, and he always does hypotheticals, so maybe he’ll travel a bit along that path? Anyway, sorry again.

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“House Tyrell continues through my brothers,” Ser Loras said. “It is not necessary for a third son to wed, or breed.”

“Not necessary, but some find it pleasant. What of love?”

When the sun has set, no candle can replace it.”

anonymous asked:

Since there is so much evidence about what a scumbag Renly was why on earth would the show writers make him the best of the three Baratheon brothers? It makes no sense to me.

Because GRRM, in his tricksy wisdom, also made Renly intelligent, funny, and genuinely charming and then made his main opponents people who aren’t. 

When we first encounter Renly in Sansa I and Eddard III, not only is he a young Robert without the alcoholism and Targ-murder-boner, but he’s also making fun of the Lannisters who we’re being primed to hate even more because they’re trying to execute dogs. (Although if you think about it, isn’t it interesting that Renly comes off so well despite not lifting a finger to actually help?)

Then when we encounter him again in ACOK, he’s being contrasted against Stannis, who we’re also primed to dislike (so that the face turn works in ASOS). Remember, Stannis is introduced allowing walking empathy magnet Maester Cressen to be humiliated, and the next image we have of him before he meets with Renly is him joining a scary cult (another example of how priming wrong-foots people: Melisandre). And again, look at their meeting:

Again, on the surface, Renly’s the one with the better japes, the peach, and he’s the one who’s going to get horribly murdered so there’s the sympathy factor as well. 

The case for Renly falls apart when you step back, ignore all of the surface qualities, and ask yourself what has he actually done and what has he actually said. And that’s when you start to see all of the subtle thematic and character work GRRM has been doing in the background

My guess? Benioff and Weiss aren’t very good at literary analysis and simply missed that second layer.