X-Men Psychology: In Rogue’s defense, What the hell happened in Antarctica?, and a character analysis on Gambit.
Let us lay down the base.
Rogue has the mutation of being able to absorb, via skin, thoughts, memories, skills, mutation, and literal life source from whomever she touches. She has no control over it, and will knock you out with the actual touch, will leave you in a coma if she holds for too long, and will kill you if she holds on for a bit more than that.
Let’s take these facts and break them down. Rogue absorbs memories, but if you think about it, not everything she will gets is going to be deep, or profound, or meaningful. Logic says, she’ll get a lot of mundane stuff. Logic, also says, she’ll get a lot of pretty fucking invasive, embarrassing, TMI, and awkward-ass human idiosyncrasies. People going to the bathroom. People manscaping. People doing the weird, embarrassing shit people tend to do when they are alone, things people assume no one will ever find out about.
Just like how Logan, via senses, a 100% knows when any woman in the mansion is on her period, hears when anyone is having sex, smells the bodily fluids on them afterwards, and doesn’t get to say anything about it because he is aware that that is his problem and no one else’s. It is something that just comes with his mutation and he just has to deal with it, without ever being like “Jesus,would it kill you to wash your damn mouth after swallowing?”.
Rogue has a similar issue, and deal the same with her’s. Rogue getting Holocaust memories from Magneto, or Logan’s tortured lifetime, or any angsty/depressing as hell memories from anyone, she has to keep to herself. She can’t just go to Erik and be like “Listen, I know you didn’t actually give me this information voluntarily but I saw X and I haven’t had a goodnight’s sleep in weeks. You kind of owe me a context and a proper resolution to the horror I keep living every time I go to bed.” because she knows that if it bothers her to the extent it does, that means he’s, obviously, also, still affected by it, and no one really owes her comfort, for something they never meant to impose on her. Especially when the person isn’t even close to her.
9 times out of 10 times, she doesn’t get to ask or hear if the memory had a happy ending. She probably gets a lot of horrible memories and imagery she will never fully understand what they are about. Just scenes out of context, and the emotions attached to them.
Rogue, it’s important to remember, doesn’t get to absorb the most well adjusted human beings out there, we all know this. She also doesn’t get to see their minds at a safe distance like a telepath would. Take Nathaniel Essex, for example. If, say, Emma Frost got into his mind she’d be like “Holy Shit, this guy is fucking evil”, and dismiss him as human garbage. Rogue doesn’t get that privilege. Rogue momentarily becomes the person she absorbs. Rogue not only gets to see the mess that a psycho’s mind is, she is forced to empathise with him. She doesn’t only see the person’s horrible actions, she gets the sparknotes version of how, exactly, the individual went from A to Z to Crazy and reluctantly understands because she sees, if not by memories, by sensation; the life choices, and the trauma, the breaking point, and the conclusion.
From there, Logic says that Rogue should be one of the most empathetic characters out there. Logic says that Rogue must naturally err on the side of compassion, and understanding.
So why doesn’t she?
I think it has to do with her time with Mystique and Destiny. Rogue’s relationship’s with her mothers is very complex. There was love there, but Raven being Raven, and Irene…. Irene’s psychology is a whole ‘nother monster. That woman gets a little more slack for being so collected while being a pre cog. Destiny and Rogue have that in common, I think. No one should be able to know the things they know, we are not naturally equipped to deal with that burden.
Still, love or not, they both had agendas, and they both had plans for Rogue, because they did not really take her in out of the kindness in their hearts.
What Mystique must have told a teenager Rogue to get her to become a terrorist, the type of grooming, and deliberate, subtle manipulation that so obviously came into play, I don’t want to think about.
Because at the end of the day. Rogue was taken in, at thirteen and homeless, by Mystique and Destiny. She had a family dynamic for the first time since she was a little girl. Of course she’s not going to want to disappoint the women that saved her. They rescued her, gave her a family, and love her.
Eventually, it’s pretty obvious that the whole thing must have started to smell to Rogue. Because the whole Carol Danvers thing did not just happen and she was suddenly like X-MEN HLP PLS.
That event was the breaking point, but there must have been some conflicting emotions brewing there for a while. We know how hard it is for abuse victims to walk away from someone they love, someone that hurts them, or takes from their life, and how exponentially worse it gets, when their abuser tells them that they love them. Can you imagine how hard it must be to walk away from a toxic relationship when you know, FOR A FACT, that that person, in their own twisted way, does actually love you?
We all learn in our own time, that John Mayer knew what he was talking about when he said that ‘love is a verb’, and that feeling something, isn’t really worth shit when you don’t act like it. A lot of people don’t figure this out until they are old. Also, Rogue, because of her powers, gets to see something worse than another person’s personal trauma and tragedy. She essentially gets to see the Übermensch of the person she absorbs. The person deep inside that person. We all have one. The person we say would be if we lost weight, the person that would live it up if X and Y things in their life were different. That ideal version of us that is happy and all we aspire to be. The perfect version of ourselves. The one with the great mental health, and without all the character deffects. The person we swear we’d be, had things played out more in our favour.
I want you to realise that Rogue sees that when she absorbs someone.
Now, grown up Rogue definitely knows that what makes someone the person they are, is who they are in spite of their circumstances, not who they swear they’d be if they had it perfect. Real character is forged the same way steel is. Through heat and pressure.
But younger Rogue?
Younger Rogue must have spent hours doing mental acrobatics trying to build bridges across the chasm that exists between the person she abrobed’s actions, and the person they’d like to be. She must have made excuses after excuses on why this person is actually a good person even though they act like a trash can, because if you could just see what I saw you–
And we know. WE KNOW that people along the way MUST have taken advantage of that. Because, technically, taking all that into account, early years Rogue must have allowed a lot of people to get away with gross behaviour under the guise that, well, they meant well. Like, younger Rogue must have taken a lot of BS from other people believing it was okay, because of who she assumed the person really was on the inside.
Like……. How hard, must have walking away from her moms, been taking that into consideration. I think that’s probably the first time she sees that love means nothing if you don’t actually follow through with your actions.
Stilll, doesn’t change the fact that she’s infatuated after spending time with Magneto, because she gets it in her head that, even though he has killed people en mass, even though he’s done all of what he’s done, she’s still like “You could be so much more, I’ve seen you and you are a good man and–”
So, this is, obviously, behaviour she has a tendency to fall into. The wish to understand, and empathise. So, looking at her today, its obvious, that she lost that somewhere along the way.
Taking this background on the logical technicalities of her mutation, let’s dip into Antarctica.
With Remy, we have to understand something. It wasn’t just absorbing his self-loathing mind that made her leave him. Rogue hadn’t just made her sexual debut with Remy. She had touched someone for a significant period of time, without hurting them, for the first time since she’d been thirteen. That is something to be hella’ emotional about. To someone who, for a long time, certainly assumed they’d die a virgin, you bet your ass it was a big deal.
I can’t begin to imagine what effect, lack of uncomplicated physical interaction with people, must have been to Rogue. The only thing I can compare it with, is my experience with about a decade of crippling depression. I isolated myself from the outside world for years. Afterwards, when I got better, and I went through some sort of re-emersion period, and was trying to integrate myself back, at first, the amount of self consciousness, of lack of confidence I felt, after missing out, for a significant amount of time, on a perceived important aspect of the human experience, it was pretty goddamn awful. You are hyperaware of everything you do, that you are probably acting weird. You feel and believe that everyone else but you has dominion over X. That more ‘normal’ people would not act the way you are acting right now. That everyone is an expert and you don’t even know what time it is.
You take Rogue, who probably thinks herself pretty awkward with physical interaction until Gambit, because it’s somehow easy and natural with him, and even with that going on for her, there’s the matter of who Gambit is. Gambit is charming, beautiful, charismatic, suave, witty, mysterious and, over all, a heartbreak in a 6′2 body frame.
Someone like him, taking interest in her, must have been initially taken in the mansion like: “Oh, jeez, he clearly has no idea, he’ll run as far as he can go as soon as he finds out ha ha”.
But he didn’t. He’d push and push until everyone disbelievingly went like… “…….I mean… if you insist that you know what you’re doing…………..”
But everyone at the mansion and their cat must have all thought Rogue was biting WAY more than she could chew with him. Had he not been as determined to get under her skin as he’d been, she would have, no doubt, been uber self conscious and intimidated with the sole idea of even considering him as a significant other.
She still was to a degree, especially at first, but he manages to convince her, and she happily follows his lead.
The problem with Antartica is that, at this point in time, Remy Lebeau has difficulty with being transparent. He never outright lies to Rogue, but he omits stuff. Important stuff.
Rogue asked, more than once, what the big dark secret was, and he, time and time again, refused to answer.
I firmly believe, that while Remy’s role in the Morlock Massacre would have devastated a lot of people, he would’ve never been left behind to die for it, had he been honest and up front about it.
He would’ve put a lot of strain in his friendships, but it wouldn’t have escalated to, you know, being left to die.
You are going to tell me, that Rogue “I-just-want-to-touch-people-and-not-kill-them-with-my-powers” wouldn’t have understood Remy’s “I-was-so-desperate-to-you-know-not-blow-people-up-with-my-powers-that-I-overlooked-a-sketchy-deal-and-obvious-red-flags-for-help”?????? He didn’t give her enough credit.
Spoiler Alert: She would have. She probably would’ve identified with him on a deeper level and died of compassion for what he ended up, unwittingly, going along with. How his comfortable, deliberate ignorance got people killed, the same way, once upon a time, hers almost ruined an innocent woman’s life.
(PAUSE: Remy being left behind was fucking awful, I’m not trying to justify it, I’m just trying to make sense out of that mess. In my opinion, Antarctica should have never happened the way it did. Leave fighting and trying to kill each other to the Avengers. The whole point of the X-Men is that everyone hates them, but they have each other. UGH)
Because we all know that Remy Lebeau would have never, deliberately, participated in mass murder. Ever.
It is the fact that he lied about it, and how shit escalated from there.
Because Remy, at this point, clearly considers himself a horrible man. Never mind that his worst sin in the matter was being deliberately obtuse, because he knew that Sinister wasn’t up to anything wholesome, but he was desperate and looked the other way to not see the red flags, but somehow, in his head, he’s not that far from Sabertooth. So we can say, that his point of view, his mental image of the massacre, paints his role in it, in a way more damning way than it actually was.
When Rogue figures Remy lied to her. Every insecurity she had ever harboured about them together, every absorbed idea that she’d been WAY over her head by thinking that he’d be real with her. That someone like her could ever pin someone like him down. Her mind going a mile a minute, probably rethinking everything, because he finally got what he wanted, didn’t he? he slept with her(something that wouldn’t cross her mind with a clear head). But she got the Morlock Massacre directly from HIM. No disclaimer, no nothing. Just the guilt ridden version of it in Gambit’s Psyche.
At this point Rogue knows more about how her powers have left her vulnerable to other people’s manipulations in the past, and in the state she’s in, it’s not far fetched to say that she doesn’t know what to make of Remy, with things happening the way they are. If there is one person in this world who she doesn’t want to take advantage of her it’s Remy, the man she’s in love with.
There is also something I was once told that plays a part into this:
“There is something to be said about how a young woman will recklessly throw and offer herself to her first love. No reservations, no secrets, no keeping things in the dark. It is partly because, having never actually experienced heartbreak in the past, they are able to love fearlessly. Being in love feels amazing, and, at that point in their lives, they can only imagine what heartbreak must feel like, not having an actual personal reference of it, and it is always a thousand times worse when it happens than they could have ever imagined.
This is not to say that a woman loves most, or best, or wisest, or most prudently, on her first time; but it is about the lack of caution, and shameless adoration that they display, that doesn’t always reappear again, after getting their heart broken for the first time.”
I think that after everything she’d been told by Remy, everything she lived with him; seeing what she found in his psyche must have been as unexpected as having a finger bitten clean off by a butterfly.
Because it is pretty obvious that at this point, in every hypothetical situation in her head, in which she and Remy didn’t work out, she had probably always assumed that it would have been because of her, because of her shortcomings.
So yeah, it was not just his guilty conscience that had her leave him.
It was a mix of feeling like the biggest delusional fool, of remembering people taking advantage of her in the past, of being truly heartbroken for the first time in a romantic context, and adding that Remy’s psyche was probably not helping his case at all. Because, if Rogue’s mind was telling her that he’d lied to her, had taken advantage of her, and used her, Remy’s tortured psyche’s commentary in the matter probably was like ”…………..Yeah, I am pretty Goddamn awful”. Remy’s horrible opinion of himself back then did nothing to help.
Because had it been just his mind on an emotionally stable Rogue, she would’ve been like, “………..but that’s not actually how it happened. It was a more nuanced matter than that.”
Because that is literally how her mutation works.
I think that, when Remy told her “…but I love you” right before she leaves him, that sealed the deal, because I don’t think she was actually leaving Remy, himself, behind, I think she was leaving EVERYONE who ever coerced her into doing what they wanted using “love” as bait to her much younger, love-starved self.
One of the reasons I believe that inflexible, no-second-chances Rogue, as much as I don’t like it, isn’t actually out of character today, is because she has to have had bad experiences with people taking advantage of that part of her mutationin the past, that they know she naturally leans on the side of empathy and compassion, so she’s like NOW NOBODY GETS A CHANCE.
I think the reasoning behind Rogue having a clear double standard with everyone she gets cozy with, and Remy(Her overlooking Magneto’s record. Her kissing Deadpool), is that she doesn’t really want either of them, not for the long run, anyways. In her head, they are not in the same league with Remy, not even close. She doesn’t really care enough about either of them(in a life-partner way), to actually bother with the thought that they should probably be better people. She cares about them, sure, I love to think she’ll have Grade A friendships with both of them, but she’s not really giving them any consideration on an endgame aspect, to even think about things like “Yeah, I’m not comfortable with either of you guys’ bodycount”.
At the same time, we’ve seeing her pulling excuses out of her ass to push Remy away not too long ago. “You are a thief and I can’t trust you”.
Girl, he’s been a thief since day one, you’ve always known that LMAO NEXT.
OH another thing.
I still see, to this day, people talking about how SHE left him in Antarctica.
Boy………. Where were the rest of the X-Men?
You are telling me….. that the X-Men got home and were like “OMG ROGUE YOU LEFT HIM THERE?!?!?!?”
I’m sorry. But the whole point of the arc was that he was abandoned by the whole group of people he considered family. The fact that it was Rogue that flew away, that it was the woman he loved that flew away, was supposed to make it extra painful. Not be the sole source of pain.
Because you all know, YOU ALL KNOW, it wasn’t like the X-Men where like “You know what? I think it’s Rogue’s call. Never mind the fact that they spent the last few days de-powered and shit obviously happened, that she just touched the man she’s loved for the last couple of years, substantially, for the first time, and she got the massacre fresh out of his brain….. Yeah, she’s clearly a reliable judge of character right now. Not emotionally impaired AT ALL”.
If I read one more Post-Antartica Fic(not that there are any good ones) with people at the mansion giving her shit and acting like she was somehow being deliberately cruel, and stone cold headed when she left him, I’m gonna pee on everything you own.
Because EVERYONE left him there.
A group effort. Like true X-Men.
I love Remy Lebeau. He is my favourite male X-Man of all time, but if you dare to shit on Rogue because of his plenty of personal shortcomings I will shit on you.
Let’s dig into his psychological profile:
(UGH REMY IS SUCH A MEATY CHARACTER TO DISSECT ASDFGHJKL;)
Remy Lebeau lives life on a 50/50. Escapism and Atonement.
On one side, he avoids emotional pain like a damn ninja, so he tends to escape from it in every way he can.
One of his more popular ways, is through his White Knight Complex. He did it with young Storm, with Rogue, with Laura, with Joelle, and we know he’s done it plenty of other times.
This is not to say, that when he saw a young troubled Storm in need of help he didn’t actually want to help her, or that when he met Rogue, he did not really think that it was a crying shame that someone like her had no one to touch, this is not to say that he didn’t want to genuinely help Joelle with her daughter. Laura is, I’d say, probably among the most selfless examples of aid he’s ever given.
Gambit’s true colours come through, most prominently, when he’s helping people. That’s when his, very real, heroic aptitude comes out to shine.
Where I’m trying to go with this, is that this habit of his, of throwing himself, head first, into helping a pretty girl with a sad story, damn the consequences and anyone within a 5 mile radius, is not a 100% altruistic.
Because it is not. Not completely.
It has plenty to do with how these things make him feel about himself, it dismantles a bit, the deep rooted core belief, that he is not a good man.
We must remember that Remy, also lives in a perpetual state of atonement. Remy’s non-stop escapades around the world are not solely due to the fact that he IS an adrenaline junkie, that he most certainly has some sort of kinetic energy induced ADHD and that he a 100% metabolises a ridiculous amount of energy, though all these do factor in.
What I mean, is that Remy Lebeau’s particular brand of stir crazy, does not sound like someone who simply enjoys living it up(though, again, there is that), and feels more like aI don’t feel that good about the man I am, so DISTRACTION.
This idea, that some people just need to travel, and do wild shit all the time as a requirement to be happy and consider their lives fulfilling is completely false, and something the media has been trying to sell us since forever. The live-fast-die-young, rock and roll lifestyle.
It was Rolling Stone,Jet-Setting, Star Icon, Sex God, Rock Legend Kieth Richards that once said:“The contortions we go through, to not be ourselves for a few hours”.
Just leaving this out there: Someone at peace with themselves, could stay in the same place their whole life, and still be find it within themselves to be content.
Looking at Remy, and all that he is, and just getting this sly, happy-go-lucky man, is valid, I guess, but an extremely simplistic view on his character.
A man who’s had bad calls blow up in his face like the Morlock Massacre, the mess in Paris with Genevieve and Sabertooth; things beyond his control like Etienne’s Tilling, and many other traumatic events that, good intentions or not, absolution or not, stay with you forever.
I’m not even going to dive into the very real possibility that back when he was just little kid Remy no-last-name he most certainly had, at the very least, some pretty horrifying close close calls with sexual assault.
He was a street kid. Let that, and what almost always happens to kids in vulnerable positions when left to the devices of horrible men, what they are often forced to do to survive, sink in.
That possibility opens a whole ‘nother window. Sexual assault victims can sometimes cope with the trauma through hypersexuality, because they can’t understand why what happened to them did, they try to rationalise it by subconsciously believing that they probablywanted it to happen, so they start having a lot of sex with a lot of people to support that belief; and while I firmly believe that Remy absolutely owns his sexuality today, that he probably has one of the best, healthiest views on sex anyone can have,ifhe is a sexual assault survivor, and became one as a child with no means to deal, he most certainly went through a phase of hypersexuality to try and take back agency of his own body.
There’s also the possibility that, he only ever got close calls, and that Jean Luc had people keeping an eye out for him, and If comic books ever wanted to address the idea, but wanted to stray from the possibility of assault, they could certainly write that, but it really could go either way.
What I’m trying say here, Remy has been through too much, to be justifiably reduced, solely, to what most people take away from his character.
All those life experiences under his belt, a habit of cringing away from emotional distress, and a tendency for escapism becomes real.
And I-don’t-want-to-think-about-it Remy Lebeau, again, makes sense. As someone that 1) Spent ages 1-10 in the streets, where you don’t get the time to think about how sad you are, or else you won’t be able to get anything done. It’s either ignore and disconnect, or die a miserable death and 2) From what we’ve seen of the Thieve’s Guild, and how old we know it is, it doesn’t feel to me that they have any counsellors to help them cope with the stress of the job. They seem to be more of a traditional “Walk-it-off” philosophy kind of folk.(You bet your ass that Remy Lebeau changes that).
It’s not a wild assumption to say that Remy’s life has taught him that the best way to deal with distress is sweeping it under the rug. A lot of people do this as a coping mechanism, and most of the time it is the very thing that allows them to survive.
AND from sweeping things under the rug, to omitting important things about himself, those are both behaviours that stem from the same place. Remy never learned to reboot, or turn that off after he gained his independence and became completely self-reliant.
Besides, his experiences during his formative years can, and most of the time will, lead to a fierce tendency for Escapism.
Remy is all about sensation, and company, and what’s next.
While Rogue has difficulty losing herself in the moment the way Remy so easily does, mainly due to the fact that she knows intimately what the core sentiment that goes into one night stands is all about, and she has a comprehensive understanding of the empty pleasantries that are behind spending your time with people who don’t really care for you, but are still around. She doesn’t get to do that, to disconnect like that.
Remy, might not have Rogue’s involuntary insight, but he is a people person, and he’s aware of all that too, not to her extent, maybe, not enough to get in his way, as it’s still easier for him to pretend. He can ignore it, and not deal with the kinds of thoughts that would prevent her from doing the same. Because, again, he can dodge dealing with uncomfortable shit like Neo from the Matrix.
A lot of people like to say that he couldn’t find happiness with Rogue because of how wrong she was for him, and I’d say that if that was the case, that was all on him.
At the place Remy is currently at, I don’t think he’s boyfriend material, period.
I don’t think Gambit is at peace with himself, because I don’t think he’s come to terms with his mistakes and his wrong calls, and he hasn’t done that because he’s in constant conflict with the concept of self-accountability.
Gambit has a heart of 24k gold, that is undeniable. The fact that, again, someone who came out of the streets, and into a crime syndicate, still managed to become someone as kind, and as well intentioned as he is,it says a whole lot of something about his character.Someone with his past, could justifiably not give a fuck about anyone’s misery forever and for always. He got himself out of the pile of shit he was born in, other people shouldn’t get to whine, but, incredibly enough, that is not who he is.
Rogue would have never gotten out of her comfort zone had it not been for him.
But, there is also the fact, that due to him being raised on a morally gray area, he assumes that, well, when he fucks up…. that’s just who he is. The perpetual fuck up. It’s something a lot of people with a low regard of themselves tend to do, but when he does that, he’s being lax on his short comings, and unintentionally removing his accountability form the equation. Because when your answer for every bad call or mistake you make is “Why am I always like this?” You are refusing to identify the real issue in order to fix it. You are simply using your perceived negative idea of yourself as an excuse, involuntarily in his case.
“I am dishonest. I am reckless. I am inconsiderate. I always do shit like this.”
I’m sorry for anyone that actually believes that those are issues anyone can love away.
There is no amount of positive feedback or reinforcement from an outside source that will sustain you in the long run.
Not the mostperfect, most low-maintenance,kindest, most patient and understanding, most selfless person in the world.
We like to believe that love from someone else can save us, and while yes, it is an utterly romantic idea, and it can do wonders for your self esteem at first, and yes, if you honestly reciprocate, you can give it your best effort; truth is, when you do not love yourself, if you don’t think you have anything good to offer, you don’t really have anything to give. You are taking dust out of an empty well, and it will most certainly create co-dependency, not love. You have to know your worth if you hope to have a healthy relationship with anyone. Because even if both people enter a relationship aware of the dynamic, self hatred, and everything that comes with it, will sabotage the whole relationship.
(Note: You can love someone that is not in a good place, you can’t help who you love. But you should never enter into a relationship with someone like this, if they are not actively seeking treatment or betterment.ACTIVELY SEEKING. I say this as someone who was, not that long ago, severely depressed.)
At this point, Remy might be a great fling, he’s generous, fun and funny as hell, exciting, passionate, and a whole lot of wonderful things that work perfectly in flings, but I don’t think the way he is, currently, knows how to be happy in a committed romantic relationship. I don’t think loving him is a wise idea right now, or that he should be looking for a relationship with anyone before addressing his personal baggage.
Another interesting aspect of him: He doesn’t feel guilt for his mistakes, he feels shame.
From a psychological stand point, there’s a difference. You can work with guilt. Guilt is holding yourself accountable, owning up to your mistakes, and working towards restitution for the people you hurt. You set yourself free through this.
Shame is a more sterile term. There’s no growth from there. Just a constant state of mortification, angst, self-recrimination with no real action and self hatred. You ruminate on how much you suck for so long that you don’t get to the part where you fix it.
We’ve seen Gambit sort of pressing the switch into guilt lately, which is great, but for a long time, Remy would either avoid his shame, trying to be as helpful, and as kind as he can; but when he’d get people hurt because of an honest mistake, like a lot of good people do by accident, instead of owning up to it, so he can accept his fault, and not be, either so hard on himself that he’s too overwhelmed to do anything about it, or too lax; and find a way to just… you know, move on; he’d be like “I guess that’s just me”, and end up doing nothing about it except feel bad.
It is an interesting contrast to Rogue, who by all means should be the biggest cynic this side of the galaxy, and the last person with an actual moral compass, let alone one as strong and as steadfast as the one she has. The fact that she still finds it within herself to work for ‘The Dream’ as hard as she does, in spite of the cesspool that is her mind. (Wade, Erik, and Logan are enough to give anyone nightmares forever. Those three, specifically, live in dubious morality) And she somehow manages to still hold onto her ideals. That says a whole fucking lot about her character.
I just re-read this and it came into my mind that some people might look at this and think l’m sucking up to Rogue and just eviscerating Gambit’s character.
That is not my intention, and I am trulynot.
It all comes down to these two facts: 1) Rogue is not the irrationally bitter demona lot of people would like her to be, and 2) Gambit is not the too-pure-for-this-world-smol-baby a lot of people like to think he is.
Yeah, Rogue has a SHIT-TON of issues she’s got to work on. Commitment issues, getting herself a life, and finding a sense of self and identityoutside of being a super hero, learning to communicate without combusting into flames, among many other things.
I dotend to give Rogue more slack because:
1) A huge part of Rogue’s main source of conflict to overcome, has been about things she can’t help. (Her mutation)
While a lot of Remy’s conflicts to overcome have been completely self made. (The constant hard time he has grasping the importance of transparency and honesty with those he cares about, and the natural repercussions of that.)
The thing is, a lot of people love to hate, and blame Rogue for Gambit getting a hard time. Which is so ridiculous, and delusional, and just plain lazy, for me to even begin to address.
2) Rogue is a favourite character to hate. Gambit is a favourite character, period.
A lot of people like the glamorous surface that is Gambit’s facade. I am not reading too deep into his character, by the way, these are easily deductible things hidden in plain sight, one gets from his character profile. People in the real world that act the way Remy does, that have gone through the things he has, have gone through most of the things I talked about here.
I’m giving the events that happened to him in canon 616, actual, realrepercussions. Like superhero movies do today, when they bring them into the real world, how traditionally, TheBattle of New York in the first Avenger’s movie would have ended wrapped up in a nice little bow, with everyone worshipping the team, and all of them walking off into the sunset, but today we see that in the MCU peopledied. We get PTSD Tony Stark. We get international backlash. It is a thing.
Becausehorrible events, have very real, horrible consequences.
Seeing Remy Lebeau’s history and just getting this fucking Rock Star that’ll always happily land on his feet, YOLO and fuck the consequences, is as irrational and as huge a disservice to his character, as looking at Rogue’s history and being like “WOW. TALK ABOUT A MEGA BITCH-FACE WITHOUT A CAUSE, AMIRITE?”.
Everyonelikes to believe that Rogue had been holding him back all those years and like……. yeah.…….
Stop Blaming The Woman For A Man’s General Dissatisfaction 2k17.
A lot of people romanticise Gambit’s over-all character, while simultaneously vilifying Rogue, because if you just look at it on a really shallow level, the only reason a woman would pass on a gift like Remy LeBAE, is because she’s, clearly, a crazy, unreasonable Bitch with a capital B.
And it comes down to the fact that Remy Lebeau has always been, undeniably, absolutely, the sympathetic party in the relationship.
Remy’s always been the brave one, the one who risked it all for her, regardless of how he could’ve chosen to bother with someone he could actually touch. Think about it, it’s very easy to tell death in a bottle to take a chance on him, a mighty romantic idea, but the truth is, anything went to shit, and then, well, Rogue should have probably known better than to take the risk, but If his risk payed off, then he made her life.
Which is just….. Give me supportive Remy, give me Remy that gives her the option, Give me Remy that teaches Rogue that she can have anything she wants in this life so long and she dares to reach for it.Those are canonand a 100% true. Do NOT give me pseudo-messiah Gambit that fixed her empty existence. Ugh. Ew.
Remy is a people person, he loves people, and learning from them. Rogue knows too much about them to find it in her to bother, another thing she clearly has to work on.
Bottom line is, as a friendor as a partner, or any other sort of relationship: Remy Lebeau absolutely loves, and is deeply proud of Rogue, and you better believe that when he looks at her, former terrorist self versus the woman she is today, he admires the fuck out of her. The exactsame way Rogue will go, relationship or not,good terms or not, to the ends of the world, to watch his back, and look out for him.
That is something that no distance, or rupture, or time off, or break, or hiatus will ever kill. As much as some people would love to believe that they are sick and done with one another, I’m sorry to say that that idea is very much like Fetch. It’s not a thing and it is not gonna happen.
Nico takes Allison by the arm and leads her away. But they don’t go too far. They were afraid things would become explosive between the young couple. But instead of being hysterical with tears or even fiercely angry, Lala looks at Remy with a weary expression, then turns her back to him.
Remy quiet: I’ll get tested. But I’m sure everything is fine.
Lala snaps: Why? Because she’s rich and beautiful? You think rich b*tches don’t have herpes? That they can’t get knocked up?
Remy: Lala, come on. Stop. You never speak this way, baby girl. Let’s talk about this.
Lala: There is nothing to talk about, Remy Holmes. I’m done with your cheating and your lying and your self destruction.
Remy tries to put his arms around her, she pushes him away.
Lala: Dont f*cking touch me, Remy. Don’t ever touch me.
Remy: Lala. She’s nothing. It was just sex. With every other woman, it’s just sex. You know that. With you it’s different.
Lala: I did this to myself and I know it. I always let you do whatever you wanted on the side because of that ridiculous reason. Just sex. There’s no such thing as just sex when you’re in a relationship and you’re in love, Remy. If it were just sex, I wouldn’t have nightmare about Steven Brandt f*cking me every night when all I wanted was to be with you.
Remy: I’m going to make him pay for that.
Lala: Why should he pay, Remy? When YOU were the one who pushed me to sleep with him? When you were the one who robbed HIM? Why should he pay when we entered his life, not the other way around? And I know Angelina True wasn’t just sex. You’re still trying to go after Steven. She’s connected to him. You’re going to kill him, no matter how I feel about it, how wrong I think it is.
Remy: I am going to kill him. I can’t live with myself knowing what he did to you. What he did to others. I’m doing this for my son.
a playlist of spring awakening cast members singing different arrangements of spring awakening songs
left behind - gideon glick / bitch of living acoustic - blake bashoff, anthony lee medina, andy mientus, ben moss, kyle riabko, and matt shingledecker / wake me up/touch me - ben fankhauser / mama who bore me - jonathan groff / don’t do sadness/blue wind - blake daniel and emma hunton / the dark i know well - andy mientus and ben moss / seasons of love/song of purple summer - spring awakening first national tour cast / touch me - christy altomare and kyle riabko / my junk/let’s get it on/london bridge/total eclipse of the heart - steffi d / a comet on it’s way - spring awakening first national tour cast / touch me -krystina alabado and andy mientus / left behind - matt doyle / bitch of living - lilli cooper, eryn murman, lauren pritchard, phoebe strole, jenna ushkowitz, and remy zaken / touch me - matt doyle and emma huntun / the song of purple summer - spring awakening first national tour cast reunion /
• Before Anna Marie had full control of her powers whenever Remy went to touch her she’d spray him with water as if he was a cat.
•Remy likes to braid the white streak in her hair even though he can’t braid to save his life.
•When they’re kissing Anna Marie likes to be on top and she likes to bite, hard.
•When decorating the Christmas tree it’s a constant fight for who gets the best job, putting the star on top, and who gets the worst job, putting the tree up. Remy turns on the charm around the time they get the tree and has put the star on top three years running.
•The other X-Men have walked in on them having sex, numerous times.
•One year on Anna Marie’s birthday, Remy was short on money and was a second away from stealing an emerald necklace- that is until Logan caught him and literally KNOCKED some sense into him.
•Remy always has hickies all over his body after a night with Anna Marie, Scott and Kitty love to tease him about it.
Rogue had known that she should probably think things through a little more when she got her powers handled, at least for the moment, but she hadn’t wanted to, especially not with Remy able to finally touch her for more than a second.
Six weeks later, she was having trouble keeping food down, especially in the morning, and she was having almost constant headaches. She didn’t want to admit the possibility that her and Remy’s spur of the moment idea hadn’t exactly gone without consequence, but she needed to know for sure what was up. So Rogue bought a test, and it confirmed her fear.
Upon telling Remy, he told her he didn’t want to be a father yet, he wasn’t ready, and that was going to get in the way of them. She’d been surprised and hurt that he would say that, and she yelled that he was being a coward. She didn’t want a baby at the time anymore than he did, but she didn’t see any other options. He told her she could think what she wanted to, and at that she’d stormed out.
Now she sat on her bed, rocking back and forth as she tried to figure out what to do. The School, although excellent for an older mutant like herself, did not seem like a safe place to raise a baby, not with how the X-men tended to draw fire. So now she had to figure out someplace else to live, she didn’t have a job or money, and she couldn’t rely on her mother because of how they’d parted ways last. Sighing shakily, she pulled out her phone. Maybe someone she’d met when she was traveling all over the country before Logan and the rest had found her could help her until she could get her own place figured out. She just couldn’t stay here with Remy being the way he was.
[text: Teddy]: Hey. Long time no see…is there any chance you’re able to talk right now?
After helping Spider-Man take down a thief they were all searching for, Felicia Hardy and Remy LeBeau kept in touch after leaving the scene together. They take trips to Las Vegas together, where they scam casinos out of thousands of dollars and stay in the finest hotels.
It’s not particularly difficult to slip back into bed without waking your other half, when being sneaky is your bread and butter. Selina smiles softly as she pushes back the sheets with ease, sliding slowly underneath the cotton, moving closer to Remy without touching him - her body aches from earlier in the night and the subtle warmth he radiates soothes her.
But it only takes a second for the thought to skip over her mind, the early morning sun pushing through the blinds as she grins. Still cold and slightly damp from the sink, she moves her hands forward with a hint of trepidation. Selina’s body follows to move up against him as she shuffles closer —
– and without any hesitation, presses her ice cold fingers against the warm muscle of his chest.