Reposting these screenshots bc the post I got them from was made by a gross red pill dude
Anyway, stop calling Amy Schumer a feminist icon, she is racist, transphobic and really just all around bigoted, not to mention that whole mess awhile ago with her being friends with and employing a rape apologist.
PROS- Most of the shit he did could be blamed on his abusive behaviour and his conflict between his debt to his friend and doing the right thing, loved his girlfriend, tried to stand up to his mom's shitty boyfriend
CONS- Was a rape apologist, had no balls and never stood up to his jerk best friend when he harassed both the girls he was in a relationship with,was prepared to kill Clay to protect his reputation
PROS- Was man enough to own up to every mistake, stood up for what he believed in, whether it helped him or not, he was so guilty that he soon started showing suicidal tendencies like picking fights he knew he couldn't win or trying to drown himself in a pool, answered everything in a snarky way and sassed justin constantly, comforted clay after jeff's death, allowed justin to stay at his place despite their little rivalry, stayed friends with Jessica despite breaking up with her (albeit it was her fault), DIDN'T EXCUSED BRYCE'S RAPIST ASS
Broke up with jessica when she refused to have sex with him, didn't tell Hannah about their relationship and allowed her to think that they just drifted apart, dragged hannah into their fight and broke Jessica's friendship with her, humiliated hannah and objectified her, didn't correct the jocks when they implied a relationship between them both, hung out with bryce despite knowing what he did to hannah and jessica, tried to threaten clay into silence, never apologized to jessica for his behaviour, was mean to Tyler even before knowing what he did to Hannah
PROS: was good friends with hannah, stayed away from justin once she realized how he had let bryce rape her
Immediately assumed that the reason the two broke up was not because of Alex, but because of Hannah, SLAPPED HER, stood Hannah up at Monet's, got into a relationship with Alex and never told Hannah about it, got into a relationship with the guy who ruined Hannah's relationship and never told her, showed violent tendencies by hitting Justin with those metal pieces used to break the bulb, hung out with Bryce to make Justin angry
PROS:Has reasons for his behaviour, being the social outcast and all, (not redeemable though)
He's a fucking creep, shows school shooter tendencies, and most probably killed Alex, need i say anything more?
PROS: none. All she cared about was her parent's and her own reputation
Was fake af, used Hannah to get a ride to the dance, stopped talking to Hannah the second it hurt her reputation, spread more rumours about her and hid behind the lies, WAS A RAPE APOLOGIST despite holding no affection for bryce, wasn't ready even till the end to accept her faults,fucking hate this bitch
PROS: None, didn't care about anything but his reputation
Tried to threaten Clay into silence, stayed with Bryce despite knowing about what he did, RAPE APOLOGIST, basically sexually assaulted Hannah, was fake af with the teachers
PROS: sat next to Hannah as an effort to comfort her and apologized for his friend, bought the milkshakes for her, was genuinely nice to her, most of his reactions were out of anger, tried to be nice but failed really bad, kept her note
Stole her notes, was one of the jocks that objectified Hannah, tried to threaten Clay into silence, had a sister but never realized how much his actions could hurt girls, hung out with Bryce despite knowing what he did to Hannah, was a rape apologist, was ready to put the whole blame on bryce
PROS: was a great poet, agreed to help Hannah with poetry, tried to make amends for his mistake by buying Hannah a gift, tried to get Hannah to be confident about her work, was really (too) passionate about his 'zine, WASN'T A RAPE APOLOGIST, was blunt and called courtney out on her shit
arrogant, invaded Hannah's privacy
PROS: EVERYTHING CLAY JENSEN WAS AN IDIOT BUT HE WAS THE SWEETEST IDIOT EVER
was really oblivious (couldn't figure his friend was gay, didn't know what to say to Hannah etc.), was emotionally unstable, was reckless, usually too determined to do the right thing, even if he hurt himself in the process, pushed people away and grew cynical because of the tapes
PROS: Genuinely cared about Clay, owned up to her shit in the end
Tried to manipulate Clay into not listening to the tapes, hung out with Bryce despite knowing what he did, left Hannah in the middle of the night alone in some random place despite her being drunk just because she disagreed with her, (indirectly) caused the death of the purest character in the show
PROS: NONE THIS DICKWAD DESERVED TO ROT IN HELL AND CHOKE ON STAPLE PINS
everything he did, the fact that this rapist was even alive
was a fucking dumbass who didn't deserve his job
Thoughts on 13 Reasons Why characters and a rating of how much I dislike them from 1 being “my baby!!!!” to 10 being “FUCK THEM THEY CAN ROT”
Hannah Baker: Didn’t deserve everything she went through especially rape. She pushed some people away though and sometimes she was kind of idk how to word it but I didn’t like stuff about her at times. Either way she deserved so much better than what she got. Deserved to be happy with Clay. 2/10.
Clay Jensen: Will fight anyone for Hannah. He was so shy around her and didn’t know what to do whenever he was with her, he’s so precious. Sometimes there were some things he did that didn’t sit right with me but he definitely deserved a happy ending with Hannah Baker; they deserved to be happy and in love and ugh. Also… took like 4823707592 years to listen to the tapes? 2/10.
Tony Padilla: Gay POC which I love because we need more of them. I love him he was so patient with Clay and all he ever did was try and protect Hannah’s wishes. Glad he shared the tapes with Hannah’s parents because they deserved to know why she killed herself instead of being left in the dust wondering why. I was always so happy when he came on screen. CLAY LISTEN TO THE GODDAMN TAPES. 1/10.
Jeff Atkins: My pure cinnamon roll, didn’t deserve to die because of a stupid girl who couldn’t own up to her mistakes. I hate how nobody including his parents and except Clay never knew he wasn’t drunk that night he died. Just wanted Clay and Hannah together. Your fave is problematic: uses “unique” 7 times in an essay. -5435973495797/10. I love him forever, hes so great. Never did anything bad.
Justin Foley: Didn’t deserve the home life he had BUT i really hated him for what he did to Hannah and the fact that he’s a rape enabler and a rape apologist like he literally let his best friend rape his unconscious girlfriend, covered up for him, and lied to her about it and then when she found out, he STILL was justifying what he and Bryce did by telling her that he didn’t tell anyone because Bryce does all this shit for him. KNEW that whatever happened at that party was fucking Jessica up but didn’t come forward until the very end. Claims he cared for her but you don’t do that shit to someone you claim you care about. Fuck him for that. 8/10.
Jessica Davis: She was so cool and nice in the beginning but then I hated how she got mad at Hannah and slapped her for the list instead of Alex, like really??? You think she asked to be on that list?? PLEASE. But after all that, she was still nice towards her and was never ill-mannered when it came to Hannah. Also, can we talk about how she didn’t deserve to be raped??? Justin Foley DEFINITELY didn’t deserve her. YOU GO GIRL. TELL HIM YOU NEVER WANT TO SEE HIM AGAIN. 5/10.
Alex Standall: He made some poor decisions making that list for a stupid reason and then letting Hannah pay the price. I somewhat like him though. I think he was a redeemable character and had a conscience (although it was too late, rip Hannah Baker) and felt that he needed to own up to it and tell the truth, was ready for whatever penalty he was gonna get. Was the only one (for a while) who thought what the others were trying to do was stupid. He definitely deserved better too, he didn’t deserve to shoot himself (or in other theories, didn’t deserve to be shot by Tyler). Please be okay…please be alive, baby. 4/10.
Courtney Crimsen:GIRL, BYE. I hate and will always hate her character so much. Her and Bryce should just rot. She was a rape apologist and only cared about herself. Like girl I get that coming out is hard, I haven’t even done it, but to fuck up Hannah’s life like that? Are you serious? Justified Bryce’s actions to hide her truth. And she fucked up Jessica’s life too, in my opinion. She tried so hard to convince herself (and others) that Hannah was lying, Bryce isn’t a rapist, and that Jessica was never raped just so she can stay in the fucking closet. Like there’s nothing wrong with being gay. And she has two gay dads for fucks sake. 10/10 would always hate her again.
Zach Dempsey: I think he genuinely liked Hannah but after all the shit Hannah had been through and the fact that his friends were his friends, I definitely see Hannah’s side of why she shot him down. I think he, himself, was lonely too but in different way; just because someone’s popular doesn’t mean they’re not lonely. Didn’t get compliments so he stole Hanah’s when she needed it most (I hate how he did that ugh like WHY…did you really need it?). Redeemable character, though. Also…HE KEPT HANNAH’S NOTE IN HIS WALLET!!! 5/10.
Tyler Down: Fuck him. A fucking creep. Like, he stalked people and took pictures of them when they were unaware (especially Hannah) and when she confronted him, HE FUCKING SENT THE PICTURE TO EVERYONE. Claims he “loved” Hannah but really?? FUCK HIM. Why did he even have so much guns? I’m pretty sure he’s planning a school shooting…fucking psychopath…”I can take care of myself” BOY BYE. And if he did shoot Alex, FUCK HIM EVEN MORE. 9/10.
Ryan Shaver: Didn’t respect Hannah’s wishes. Only cared about himself and poetry. Didn’t even care that Hannah didn’t want her shit to get out. I only liked him whenever he said Bryce is a rapist and that Courtney should just shut the fuck up and stop justifying Bryce’s actions. 8/10.
Marcus Cole: He cared more about himself and his reputation more than anyone. Thought he was the shit. Sexually assaulted Hannah then called her easy for refusing. 9/10.
Sheri: I liked her and she was genuinely nice but she crashed the stop sign and left a drunken Hannah at the scene and fled. Caused Jeff to die and I hate her for it. Though she reported it because she knew it was the right thing to do, it was already waaay too late. 6/10 because of Jeff.
Bryce: Rapist. Douchebag. Scum of the earth. He didn’t even think what he did was wrong. He raped two fucking girls and didn’t even feel remorse. He just thought every girl wanted him and that was that. I hate him so much, he can die. 102804802020x100000/10.
Mr. Porter: Could have tried better to stop Hannah from killing herself. She was set on suicide until she had doubts and needed just one person to help her and the one person she came to didn’t care enough to chase after her when she left his room that day. Worst. Guidance Counselor. Ever. 8/10.
When you’ve had a lot of exposure to the SJ side of Tumblr, you’ll start to
pick up common abusive tactics they use to instill control over people who are
unsure of what side they want to be on.
The most common type I’ve seen was projection. It’s
when someone wants to remove all accountability from the actions resulting
from bad traits they hold by attributing those bad traits onto you. And I’ve seen it in this form the most: Somebody could go into hysterics about the
supposed ‘self-hate’ you have because of certain political views you hold (that
don’t apparently “line up” with your minority status), but a quick scroll down
through their blog would either reveal those typical self-depreciating posts,
how much they hate/want to kill themselves, or how nobody else likes them.
They tell you not to talk to certain people they perceive to be bigoted based on
their very broad definition of one. If that doesn’t work, they’ll resort to toying with
your emotions. I’ve talked about this before, but they’ll insist that nobody else
(outside of the minority group they’re apart of) cares about them. Basically it usually goes like: “If you associate
with them, they’ll drop you in a heartbeat when you don’t become useful to them anymore, but since we’re the only people who
supposedly care about you, you’re better off staying with us no matter how much
abuse we throw at you.” They feel threatened when anyone, especially other
minorities who are expected to have camaraderie with them at all costs, point out faults within their mindset so they resort to this particular tactic.
There’s also the “Preemptive Defense” strategy which a lot of narcissists
love to use. I didn’t know there was an exact word for this, but I’ve seen this
one play out way too often on here. It’s when someone says you should trust
them right off the bat because they’re a “nice person”. But on here it comes in
the form of trusting someone - especially believing whatever they say without
question - because they’re a minority of some sorts. Because they’re a minority
and therefore inevitably ‘oppressed’, everything they say, they say with good
intentions (or everything they say is right) even if it comes in the form of overtly abusive language.
And you can’t really do shit about it cause, “You gotta listen to
them or else you’re speaking over them and denying their right to a voice!”
Another attribute that narcissists share (and lots of people on
here) are subjecting people to “smear campaigns”. They control how others see
you by making themselves out to be the good person while you’re the toxic one. A smear campaign is a preemptive strike to
sabotage your reputation and slander your name so that you won’t have a support
network to fall back on lest you decide to detach and cut ties with this toxic
person. They may even stalk and harass you or the people you know as a way to supposedly
“expose” the truth about you; this exposure acts as a way to hide their own
abusive behavior while projecting it onto you. I think I’ve lost count of
the amount of times I’ve seen this happen here.
They deliberately misrepresent your thoughts and put words in
your mouth too. They’ll try their damn hardest to rephrase whatever you say to
make your opinions sound like garbage. This gives them a sense of power as
everybody comes running to their side and away from yours because they purposely
misinterpreted the core argument you made in your post. One of their favorite approaches
is finding something slightly off with your wording and using that to twist the
point you made while moving the goalposts at the same time. I made a post that said
‘Radfems will call a transwoman a man because they raped somebody as if men are
the only ones capable of rape’ and I got swarms of replies talking about how I
didn’t care about the rape victim affected (which they ironically proceeded to
deny his identity by referring to him as a ‘’female’’ because he was a
transman) because I happened to bring up a different issue at that time. Either
that or I was a rape apologist.
Once they lose that
sense of control – because you disagree with their thought process – they’ll either
try to strip of you of your identity or use fear-tactics (i.e: nobody cares for
you except for us) as a consequence of not conforming to their political views.
“If someone’s reaction to you setting
boundaries or having a differing opinion from your own is to threaten you into
submission, whether it’s a thinly veiled threat or an overt admission of what
they plan to do, this is a red flag of someone who has a high degree of
entitlement and has no plans of compromising.”
Then comes the oversimplifications and generalizations of
complicated matters. They’re left-wing versions of reactionaries, they don’t
bother to look at things from different perspectives; they instead apply their
own bias where they see fit. They have no concept of nuance and dismiss people
who point this out.
Honestly, that’s the thing that really bothers me– that “coping” seems to inherently imply posting things. Yeah, I have unhealthy fantasies that I use to cope, but I don’t post them because they could hurt people.
And yet when I, a person who has copeships and who has unhealthy coping mechanisms for abuse, say “maybe don’t post your rape fanfiction in a place where rape apologists will see it as porn material and get off to it, normalizing rape”, I get ten people in my inbox asking me to let abuse survivors cope.
Abuse survivors can copeship. Abuse survivors can do whatever cope stuff they want– in private.
And I really wish people could understand that distinction.
Literally fuck off Courtney, Bryce is a fucking rapist what the hell is your problem he's a rapist DID I MENTION HE'S A RAPIST BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HE IS, A FUCKING RAPIST WHO BELONGS IN JAIL YOU RAPE APOLOGIST
I wonder when this website is gonna stop pretending biological sex is an absolute mystery until someone yells HAHA! SURPRISE I HAD A PENIS ALL ALONG!!!
Dude stop kidding yourself. Face structure is different. Fat distribution is different. Body shape is insanely different. Hands, muscles, skin and hair, they’re all different. Smell is so fucking different.
It’s not just the penis lesbians don’t want. It’s all of the male characteristics AND the lack of female characteristics. Deal. Breaker.
i’d like to issue a reminder that brainwashed-i-literally-have-no-will-of-my-own-whatsoever-like-a-programmed-robot/puppet bucky is an mcu invention and comics!bucky was only indoctrinated to alter his allegiance from the usa to the soviet union (his WWII memories had seemingly “died,” so to speak, when he supposedly did in the war), so arguments that “natasha raped him bc he couldn’t have consented back then” are obviously coming from ppl unfamiliar with the comics who have only been exposed to mcu!bucky, and while being a fan of the movies and characters without knowing the comics is not necessarily an issue, it becomes one when ppl use a mixture of mcu canon and their own headcanons to paint a healthy ship in a negative way while ignoring its comic canon, as well as attack the shippers by calling them rape apologists, which is honestly rly fucking shitty.
comics canon winter soldier bucky had full grip on his mental faculties, had a personality, wants, needs, and feelings. as did natasha.
also, comics canon can be fuzzy on dates, but by most accounts it has natasha actually being no more than 2 or 3 years younger than bucky (she also has a type of serum that slows down her aging), so it’s very difficult for their relationship to have been “creepy on bucky’s part” bc “she was underage.” if she had been a teenager, so would he have been. but since bucky “died” in 1945, at 20 years old, and was only revived in 1954, at 29 years old, natasha would’ve been, at her youngest, 26 when they met.
all of this information is google-able, and available in the comics, if i somehow don’t sound credible enough.
You aren’t trash, you aren’t scum, you aren’t a rape-apologist/rapist, you aren’t homophobic, you aren’t misogynistic, you aren’t anything horrible for enjoying Killing Stalking.
You shouldn’t be told to kill yourself for it. You shouldn’t kill yourself over it. You shouldn’t apologize for what you like. You shouldn’t have anything bad happen to you because you enjoy Killing Stalking and ship the two main characters.
This is fiction. People get to explore and indulge in controversial, taboo, unhealthy, etc… things when it comes to fiction. There is a difference between liking something in fiction, and hating and not condoning something in reality.
If you understand this, then honestly, you’re fine. You know what you’re doing. You aren’t a terrible person for finding happiness and enjoyment in something other people wouldn’t in fiction.
Oh you poor helpless victim! It's obvious that everyone has to believe you even if there's evidence to the contrary or else they're a rape apologist!
I was raped.
Lol, yeah right. Stop making stuff up to get attention! Everyone knows men can't be raped!
I'm insecure about my body.
Oh you poor helpless victim! This is all because the evil men have set up unrealistic beauty standards!
I feel insecure about my body.
LMAO I would too if I looked like you with your tubby mayo ass! Stfu and get out of our safe spaces! Women have it way worse.
I was abused by my partner.
Oh you poor innocent victim! Curse the male power structure that allows men to get away with abusing women. Don't even worry about proving it! Your word is more than enough to arrest the scumbag!
I was abused by my partner.
Oh shut up and stop whining. You're a man and everyone knows that men always have the power so they are impossible to abuse. I hope someone cuts off your dick for being such an attention whore!
when terfs automatically claim that trans people are “rape apologists” and “rapists” because they said attraction is more than genitals, it just proves that terfs dont care about rape victims and are merely using them as props to fit their argument and agenda. especially since they ignore the fact the trans person they are calling a “rapist” could be a rape victim…..terfs are literal scum.
It’s not biphobic to not want to date a bi person because theyre bi. Lesbians are allowed to have sexual boundaries and they’re allowed to want someone with the same sexuality as them. Why does tumblr liberal politics have such a big problem with sexual boundaries lmao. Kinda like when transwomen get mad when people dont want their dicks. Can yall quit whining and being rape apologists my god!