Hey can you explain the #stoporci2014 thing and why the Trek fandom is so against him? I'm pretty neutral at the moment because I've never heard of this guy. Thanks! :)
So Bob Orci is one of the writers for the Reboot, and the only writer from the first two films still attached to XIII. Now he wants to direct XIII.
Bob Orci has a history of being a jackass to the fans.
raktajino-hot has a pretty good list of all of the things that the creative team behind the Reboot has said: http://raktajino-hot.tumblr.com/post/51171585205/jj-is-not-of-the-body-a-link-collection
Additionally you can find more here: http://yagamie.tumblr.com/post/51981917969/please-stop-talking-a-masterpost
After criticism started coming out about STID, Orci got defensive over the movie. He defended the convoluted plot. He defended the whitewashing.
But the TrekMovie (which had been completely nuTrek positive up to this point) ran an article about how Trek needed to go back to its roots, to television. The article was called “Star Trek is Broken - Here are Ideas on How to Fix It”. You can read it, it’s actually rather kind to nuTrek in my opinion, and basically says that the movies have done well but Star Trek is a television franchise primarily and that is where it should be.
Bob Orci decided to comment on the article under the username boborci. He has commented on other TrekMovie articles under this username, so seeing comments from him on the site wasn’t surprising. What he wrote was:
I think the article above is akin to a child acting out against his parents. Makes it tough for some to listen, but since I am a loving parent, I read these comments without anger or resentment, no matter how misguided.
Having said that, two biggest Star Treks in a row with best reviews is hardly a description of “broken.” And frankly, your tone and attidude make it hard for me to listen to what might otherwise be decent notions to pursue in the future. Sorry, Joseph. As I love to say, there is a reason why I get to write the movies, and you don’t.
Respect all opinions, always, nonetheless.
It got progressively worse after that, culminating in this exchange between a fan
@ 309. boborci – September 2, 2013
“You think action and thinking are mutually exclusive.”
No, we can have a movie with both action & brain, case in point Inception & Indiana Jones movies. What I’m saying that STID was a movie that has lot more action & explosions than a coherent story or character developments.
“Ok, then. Pitch me Into Darkness. Pitch me the plot, and let’s comapre it to other pitches. Go ahead. Let’s see if you actually understood the movie. Tell me what happened?”
I’m sorry but what plot ? Khan was found & used by Section 31 & then he put his own people in the torpedo to save them or whatever & the rest of the movie follow in the same illogical way.
No disrespect to you guys, STID made tons of money but it was worse than ST09 in many aspects.
And Orci’s response:
312 Shitty Dodge. STID has infinetly more social commentary than Raiders in every Universe, and I say that with Harrison Ford being a friend. You lose credibility big time when you don’t honestly engage with the FUCKING WRITER OF THE MOVIE ASKING YOU AN HONEST QUESTION. You prove the cliche of shitty fans. And rude in the process. So, as Simon Pegg would say: FUCK OFF!
After this exchange, Orci took to twitter where he promptly issued a non-apology about how “twice a year I explode at the morons.”
Then he deleted his twitter account afterward.
As far as honestly engaging with his audience, his interactions with people who participated in #KhanWeTalk? (which aimed to open a dialogue between the creative team and fans about the whitewashing of Khan) were generally rude and condescending.
In short, Bob Orci is a sack of shit. He doesn’t like Star Trek. He doesn’t like the fans. He was instrumental in transforming Kirk into a womanizing douchebro. He helped hollow out the Trek franchise and transformed it into just another stupid summer action movie. Then he insulted the fans for not loving it.
Now he is angling to direct XIII. In my opinion, he’s done enough damage already.