How many times do I have to see that post about how calling Mo’Ne Davis a slut is sex shaming? It’s not sex shaming. She’s 12. It’s racialized misogyny. How about we stop trying to win libfems points and watering this down to an issue of women not being allowed to be sexual. She’s a literal child. A prepubescent. A black girl not a grown woman who’s being shamed for having sex with a lot of men jfc.
To clarify my earlier post, the term “intersectionality,” coined by Kimberlé Crenshaw, refers to the intersection of race and misogyny, and should only be used to refer to the experience of racialized misogyny. It was never meant to be used as an identity (“intersectional feminist”), and should definitely not be used as an identity by White women at all.
“There’s a strategy behind talking about young women as out-of-control girls gone wild or innocent damsels in distress. If we’re no more than sluts or victims, then it’s reasonable for society to make our decisions for us.
For those young women who are considered victims or potential victims, like the purity princess or the young, white, suburban girls whose parents live in fear of internet stalkers and the corrupting influence of MTV, a “Daddy knows best” paternalism is omnipresent. Whether it manifests itself in the form of forcing girls to take virginity pledges and go to purity balls, or even is propagated by a casual joke when parents laugh about how they’re going to have to lock their teen daughter away until she’s twenty-one, the idea that these young women need protection spreads perpetually.
For the young women who don’t fit into the “perfect-virgin” mold, the paternalism is still there, of course, but they also have to contend with the disdain that their “transgressions” incur. These are young women of color who are considered promiscuous simply because they are not white, who are lesbians who will never fulfill a woman’s “natural” role as a man’s wife, or who are low-income and met with scorn when they choose to have children despite their socio-economic circumstances. These are the women who are mistrusted most of all -so, instead of receiving paternalistic protection, they get punished.”
Isnt it interesting while non black latinas are fetishized for their “fiery” tempers, black women are slandered because they are supposely angry all the time?? One is fetishized for their supposed anger, and another is put down for their supposed anger.
H*28: Problematic Asian American Youtube Stars (feat. Lucy)
This week for H*28, Chuks and Kari are joined by ragstoreverie (Lucy) to discuss Asian-American Media. In the last few years, especially the rise of YouTube stars, Asian American media has boomed with Wong Fu Productions, Fung Brothers, KevJumba, JK Films/David So, Jabbawockeez, and many more. They play an important role in the community—needed representation and control of production, for example—but they are not without their problems. For asks this week, we answer an ask from Sarah about access to social justice movement, butchrobot about developed/developing nation terminology, and 2goldensnitches about fighting with family members over the Gaza-Israel conflict.
“Almost any woman can land in the “impure” camp and be blamed for sexual violence committed against her. “Impure” behavior isn’t limited to being sexually active, either -drinking, staying out to late, or, in some cases, not being white all qualify as well.
Take Cassandra Hernandez, a female Air Force airperson who was raped by three of her colleagues at a party where, yes, she was drinking. After she went to the hospital and filed a report, the Air Force treated her to a harsh interrogation -so harsh, in fact, that Hernandez decided not to testify against her attackers. Instead of giving her the treatment she deserved, the Air Force charged Hernandez with underage drinking and “indecent acts”. To make matters worse, Hernandez’s three attackers were offered immunity from sexual assault if they testified against her on the indecent-acts charge. So, in effect, she was charged with her own rape.”
i was wondering about that angel coulby post, she doesnt look lighter at all?? except a bit grayer.. idk i've been staring at it for like ten minutes and i don't rly see any difference in her skin color besides the edited one being more gray-ish
I want you to look at this. Tell me what color Kerry Washington is.
She’s fucking gray and you can’t see her beautiful brown eyes but you can clearly see the white girls light eyes, from this post.
Now you may not know this but when you edit pictures in PS you have to play with the vibrance to make the colors come out more. You can also brighten dark screenshots by brightening but its not the only way to do it. Lots of times you have to play with the curves and the vibrance with a dark shot. I’m a novice so I can’t explain it as well as other giffers and editors.
Now when you work with dark skin you run the risk of stripping them completely of most color. So take a look at the above shot. I choose it from the many examples of white washing because this is mass media whitewashing. Here’s another example of another magazine doing it.
You’ve been trained to accept “grayness” as an aesthetic. Because big names like Variety and Elle say its okay to take away the browns skintones from women of color. You’ve been trained to accept it as just another filter in your instagram toolkit.
But PS is not instagram. Let me repeat myself. Photoshop is NOT instagram. There’s nuance and finetuning available so you don’t have to be whitewashing everything. I used to take selfies with my first cellphones and always make them black and white. I thought I was doing it so I could make my big nose smaller less defined. And I was. But I was also taking away my brown skin and I was whitewashing myself. I never wore bright colors on my lips, I played with putting my makeup on my lips to make them into thin lines on my black and white selfies. I’d straighten my hair so it wasn’t big and frizzy and curly. I was always dieting because I was “too” curvy.
I hated my skin, my nose, my lips, my hair, my curves. I hated myself.
Don’t tell me that making Angel Coulby even slightly gray is acceptable not when the Merlin fandom is filled with shitty whitewashed graphics. This isn’t even the first time the OP has done this. Here’s my response. Its not because it teaches fandom that making edits is just an aesthetic choice. Its not. Its the deliberate upholding of white supremacy.
I have read a lot of commentary about Beyonce’s performance at the MTV’s Video Music awards which aired last night(August 24, 2014). Beyonce is NOT a good role model for our young girls. Over the years her lyrics have gotten more vulgar and her performances have become more salacious. Last night, during her performance, she had her legs open, it was VERY sexual , and this took place in front of her DAUGHTER. Clearly if Beyonce doesn’t care about HER daughter watching and listening to heavily sexually laced lyrics and performances….she can’t care about YOURS. As you read the lyrics and (remember these are just partial lyrics), imagine our young girls singing along. Imagine these lyrics finding residence in the subconscious minds of our daughters. Not only do we have these sexually charged lyrics, but she has provided visual aids in the form of videos and performances. Also once again, here we have yet ANOTHER BLACK WOMAN, promoting the word bitch. If a male performer had showcased a raunchy, sexually charged performance, if he and a bunch of men were shirtless,and the lyrics were equally sexual and he said “bow down bitches”, if he touched himself in a suggestive manner, women would be in an uproar, we would be offended, we would call for a banning of that artist or a public apology. A woman does it and she’s applauded. This is because we are extremely hypocritical. During part of her performance , an excerpt of Chimanda Ngozi’s speech was displayed on the screen;
“We teach girls that they cannot be sexual beings the way that boys are. We teach girls to shrink themselves, to make themselves smaller. We say to girls ‘You can have ambition, but not too much’,” says the voice-over. “Feminist. The person who believes in the social, political and economic equality of the sexes.”
I take it that Beyonce thinks the first line of that speech means it’s OK to teach our girls to be whores. Feminists want all this equality but somehow the scales remain unbalanced when it comes to accountability. Go figure.A lot of people have made comments like she is grown and she is simply stating what goes on between a husband and wife in their bedroom. That would be acceptable, but it’s going on in OUR living rooms. It’s going on in the mp3 players and in our daughter’s play list. What Beyonce does in her bedroom is her business. What she does in front of our daughters is MY business, and if you care about the lack of morals that is found in our community, you’d make it your business too.“Straight sinkin, I hate thinkin that these the future mommas of our chillun”-Outkast
These Ankh niggas need to shut up. If Beyonce’s performance was directed towards the male gaze, you would have remained silent. The sexualization of Beyonce is only appealing to you if it’s “non consensual” otherwise she’s a “whore” or “Jezebel”.
You Ankh niggas recently attempted to perpetuate this detrimental Good Negress vs. Bad Negress dichotomy with Lupita Nyong’o (good) and Nicki Minaj (bad).
I keep wanting to say something about what happens when single black mothers upset the Welfare Queen narrative, & what it means that Gabby’s father was married to her mother (twice) & is in fact on active duty right now & why her being a success with dark skin & poverty is fucking up NBC’s whole reality. But I have a feeling that if I start I might not ever stop. Because this is really about punishing her & her family for existing outside that narrative. This what happens when you don’t fit the stereotypes & you don’t have a white savior in your story & yet you succeed. They can barely accept the idea that we survive. This idea of us thriving, of parental love & sacrifice & a family that is healthy & happy & loving even if it is different? They don’t know what to do with that at all.
Gabby’s smiling & sweet & funny. Her hair isn’t done & sure there were some critiques of that hair, but even still black people showed up & showed out when whiteness tried to come for her joy. We’re scaring them. She’s scaring them. That’s what they’re not trying to admit even as the dehumanizing & demeaning patter continues. See, America has controlled the message about black women for so long, & now not only do we speak for ourselves in public, other people are stepping up to speak with us. Turns out some part of the revolution is being televised. And tweeted. And Tumbled. That’s what makes this all so fucking scary to them. We are own signals & there are too many of us in too many places to be silenced.
Why are people upset when black men are portrayed stereotypically but encourage stereotypes of black women?
This commercial that portrays black men as thugs has a majority of thumbs down on youtube, and people are rightly upset.
However, a couple of months ago, I posted two ads by Progressive and, I believe it was Discover Card, which portrayed black women as sassy caricatures. Those videos had a positive response on youtube.
Basically, whenever black women are stereotyped in the media, the only place I hear complaints are on blogs run by black women. On the other hand, when black men are treated this way, I see much larger responses outside the black community. The only people who give a damn when black women are caricatured are black women.
I hold black men partly responsible for this as, on television and in movies, black men feel as if they have the right to mock black women in a way that is reminiscent of a minstrel show to get themselves ahead. Furthermore, black men are quick to share their disdain for women who have dark skin, while praising “red bones,” etc, etc. (We’ve all heard it, so I see no reason to carry on about the ways black men reduce black women.) In short, I believe the racialized misogyny from black men helps to create a dichotomy in people’s minds between racism against black men and women respectively.
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I think what's interesting is that in response to the fact that Skye flat out calls Ward a Nazi, many Ward-stans discount her as being ignorant or speaking emotionally. It's interesting that they automatically think that Ward is a more reliable narrator than Skye, given that the writers had him lie about everything including his favorite football team.
Well that’s misogyny for you, and since Chloe Bennet is biracial, that’s racialized misogyny for you. Literally the entire show starts out from Skye’s POV, whenever Skye lies about something the audience is always in on it. The audience got a look at her cell when it was clear she hadn’t cut ties with Rising Tide, and every time she’s lied they showed she had a reason to lie. Coulson the agent in charge and Melinda May (the Calvary and also she’s on Fury’s shortlist of ppl he trusts) both trust her implicitly at the end of the season. Like from a filmmaking point of view we’re getting the story not from an omniscient view point but from Skye’s viewpoint I’d say somewhere in the neighborhood of 75% of the show until we’re given Ward’s flashbacks. So when I point out that Ward has been elevated at the cost of characters of color I’m specifically talking about how Skye was central to the storyline of the show until Ward became a traitor. Ward is depicted as an unlikeable grunt who lies just about everytime he speaks and btw none of his lies were actually explained away until he got flashbacks.
Skye has had to work really hard to prove herself to everyone on the team and she’s earned their trust. Ward has literally done nothing to earn anyone’s trust, including fandoms.
Also like, if you aren’t white it’s even harder to get roles as you age….. How many moms of color do we really see? Grandmothers? Even a woman too old to be the young protagonist’s token sidekick of color? -queercomrade
EDIT: Oh I totally agree. The breakdown of his bullshittery can branch off into so many different arguments. Roles for POC are already limited as is, tack that on with being a woman, and further tack that on with the ageism in the media.
Not all dudes are like that. I treat girls like people and not all the same either I thank all girls have their own thang that makes them special and all yall are special. Oh and I happen to like latina girls more then white girls any day.
Only a dude would look at a conversation about abuse and say, “But I like Latinas!” and consider it a valuable contribution.
You managed to both completely miss the point, and to make it at the same time.
“Recent rollbacks of women’s political rights -especially reproductive rights- stem directly from the believe that women shouldn’t have control over their own bodies. More and more, policy that effects women’s bodies and rights is being formulated with the myth of sexual purity in mind. That’s why rape victims are routinely treated more compassionately in abortion-rights conversations than women who have sex consensually are, and why legislation doesn’t target women who fit into the perfect-virgin mold to the same degree as it does women who don’t fulfill the stereotype, like low-income women and women of color. This is where the purity myth gets truly dangerous, because it’s encroaching on our lives not just through social influences, but directly through legislation -legislation that’s mired in fear of young women’s sexuality, in paternalism, and in a need to punish women who aren’t “pure”.”
White Feminists are hilarious. They’ll make post after post angry at White dudes for refusing to examine anything and dismissing criticism as “reading too much into things”, but Emma Watson questions whether Beyonce is doing feminism right and suddenly we can’t say she’s saying Beyonce isn’t really a feminist because she didn’t EXPLICITLY say those exact words.
I'm a 19 year old black female college student. I went to a pharmacy after coming back from the hospital and put in a prescription. The pharmacist looks at my insurance card and immediately asks me "How do you have this insurance? Is it through welfare?" Keep in mind, I've filled many prescriptions before and no professional has asked me if I'm on welfare. I quickly replied to the man "Nope, my parents served 20 years in the military. I am sponsored through them". Smh at this fool
Wow also how about “None of your fucking business, just do your job and keep your mouth shut.”?? Skeeetch. If that same pharmacist pulls any shit like that again I’d report them to the company they’re working for.
Preference isn't racism, you stupid fuck. You're literally oppressing everyone you don't wish to date in that case. Grow the fuck up and act your age.
No, preference isn’t racism.
Racism is the assumption that everyone in a certain racial group has similar traits. When you exclude a whole race from your pool of potential partners you are saying that every person within that race has characteristics that make them undesirable. That is racist.
It is not the same thing as having a preference for brown hair or freckles, because there exist no damaging stereotypes of all people with brown hair or freckles. Those are preferences. Finding only white women attractive is racism.
I’m grown. I’m more grown than the 140-something commenters on my post in the tumblrInAction subreddit who jump so quickly to defend racist assholes on the internet from us, mean feminists who don’t want to fuck racists.
All of you think you are so progressive because you make fun of Christians or say shit like “we should all be equal,” but you are less than a step away from being conservative. You need your oppression to be blatant and in your face for you to believe it occurs. You’d probably defend the Westboro Baptist Church if their signs said “God really doesn’t prefer f*gs, but he’ll fuck them with his eyes closed and pretend their straight” and say “well at least they are sorta being nice, why are you so angry?”
This is the only anon I am answering explaining the difference between racism and preference. It is a very clear explanation, and I will not repeat myself.
I like AoS because there’s finally an honest, accurate portrayal of manipulative asshole white men on TV. And that is absolutely what is needed to break their grip on public life.
It’s incredibly worrisome to me that this character has a significant slice of the fandom that ships him with a WoC. But that’s because this accurate portray of an abusive asshole white man shows him deliberately positioning himself as sympathetic— as they do IRL— and that bullshit still works on a lot of people. I’m not thrilled with a lot of the choices the writers have made. But the direction they’re taking this character— showing his creepiness getting more and more visible as a natural consequence of the choices he’s making— gives me confidence that they know what they’re doing with him, and that people who don’t enjoy white supremacist douchebags will ultimately be satisfied with his storyline.
Not to mention Skye (the WoC that people are shipping him with) is not having any of this character’s bullshit. It’s awesome. She’s awesome. We desperately need representation of women who don’t accept this behavior and stand up for themselves and are celebrated for it instead of being painted as “evil” or “bitches” for not caving to abuse and manipulation. AoS has that in spades. There’s not a single character, male or female, who buys what this dude is selling anymore. The only people going for it are [a vocal subset of] the viewers.
Also, I don’t think I’d characterize SkyeWard as the “most popular” ship. It’s certainly the loudest. Imho it’s because people keep telling them “FYI there are problems shipping a WoC with a rapey militant white supremacist” and then they feel defensive and have to be extra self-righteous to keep living with themselves. Vocal members of this group have been incredibly abusive to the rest of the AoS fandom, myself included, and I don’t particularly appreciate being lumped in with them.
No one wants the see the female characters be pit against each other but WITHOUT FAIL it’s always the opinionated brown girl who gets the most shit while the pale girls- no matter how girly or tomboyish or bubbly or abrasive- don’t get half as much hate from the fandom. After constantly having my thoughts and feelings dismissed, belittled, and made fun of, you’ll have to forgive this opinionated brown girl for not rushing to the defense of the light skinned, slim, super femme, rich girl.
First of all: When I say “Don’t send mail”, when I close the inbox to ensure it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t mean “Don’t send mail unless you’re a White girl who can hit “reblog” when she wants to derail but won’t do it a second time when she wants to talk to me about feminism and how pro-woman she is while telling me I’m overreacting in the same breath.” It means “Don’t send mail.”
Second, no, the post was not about “other girls shitting on other feminists” (nice try, but you don’t get to distance yourself from White Feminists here - they’re still feminists). Saying it is is akin to barging in on a class where they’re discussing their assigned reading and droning on about whatever book you feel like, because “you were discussing books.” No - we were discussing A book. Likewise, the post was about White Feminists being terrible to and about Black feminists. It was not a general post, and claiming it is just so you can talk on it is derailing and dishonest.
And something else - let me just put to rest this excuse that derailers who are determined to generalize specific posts use, that they firmly believe in rights and respect for *group the post was talking about*, but they also want it for everyone!
No, you don’t. When you see a specific post and go, “ALL GIRLS” or “ALL PEOPLE” or whatever, what you’re saying is you don’t believe OP. You don’t really believe that Black women’s feminism is constantly policed by White Feminists. You don’t really think there’s any problem with misogynoir. What it says is you don’t trust them to know about their own experience, that you know better and it’s really a far more general problem, that it doesn’t affect any one group in specific ways that need to be talked about.
You derailed the post to make it all about you and your feelings. You trampled over a clearly set boundary because you think your feelings are still the most important thing here. Don’t want people to think you’re a racist annoying White woman? Stop being racist and annoying!