I don’t get it. What’s with all the Team Arrow and Olicity hate? It’s my opinion, but I don’t think Laurel is suited for Team Arrow. I just want to know other peoples opinions on this..
I’m confused. Felicity did exactly the same thing she did for the finale for season 2, as she did season 3. She told Oliver what he needed to hear. Back then, that he had to do the unthinkable, and this time, that he needed to be something/someone else to defeat Ra’s. At the end of season 2, they were happy, they were on Lian Yu, smiles and all, and this season, they’re happy, driving off.
So, why are people claiming that the episode was all Olicity, no “Arrow”, when this wasn’t an issue to anyone last time? Is it because they’re an established relationship, and laurivers realise that now, Katie Cassidy’s fantasy bubble of “Oliver loves Laurel, hashtag soulmates, together forever” is deflating?
Felicity has always been Oliver’s light, and Diggle has always been his rock. When everyone else was calling him a murderer, they stood by him, and they guided him. If you look back the the promo, and attentively look at the flashbacks, Oliver is losing his humanity, and now look at him, he finds another way. Yeah, a mitigating factor is Tommy’s death, but Diggle has given Oliver nougats of wisdom along the way, which have influenced his thoughts, and opinions, even if he doesn’t verbalise it. Felicity has always seen the best in Oliver, and without them, Oliver would not be as guided, and changed as he is.
I just don’t understand why people think that Olicity, AND the team arrow (Dig, Felicity, Oliver) is ruining the show. You understand that season one was literally ALL team Arrow, and people loved it, that’s why they got renewed. Again, season two, people loved the team arrow dynamic, Roy included.
Are you really telling me that a better show would have been, Oliver coming back from the dead, not having Diggle or Felicity, the undertaking happening, Tommy dying, Oliver dealing with it alone, probably going back to Lian Yu, and not coming back? Season two would have worked better if Oliver had to face the psychological, and physical trauma of Slade on his own, and this season, if Oliver has to watch a women he loved die, and then die himself, which he probably wouldn’t have revived from, if he didn’t have somebody to want to live for. Yes, he loves Thea, and he would have lived for Thea, but Felicity is an integral part of Oliver, and “love is the most powerful emotion”.
Diggle, and Felicity are Oliver’s moral compass, whether you want to believe it, or not. And, I personally don’t think anyone could replace the morality they provide him with. Team Arrow is an important part of the show, and people respond to it. People love it, and I’m excited about season four exploring original team arrows lives. To me, Team Arrow is the people who have influenced Oliver, and how he acts out, both personally and on the field. To me, that’s Diggle, Felicity, Roy, Thea, and Sara, to an extent. I don’t see Laurel fitting into that dynamic. Just take the scene at Diggle’s house for example. Diggle WAS angry, and he probably would have done something he would have regretted later, and Felicity knew that. When she told him to think, he did, but Laurel was rash. She doesn’t understand the implications of her actions, and she surely doesnt understand the actions of Team Arrow, despite what Katie Cassidy thinks. Roy, Diggle, Felicity, and Oliver share a bond, whereby they know how each other would feel if they were to do something under a circumstance that could have been prevented. We saw how Roy was when he thought he killed Sara. Diggle was the one to push Oliver to talk to Roy. Laurel thought about nothing, but herself at the moment. I’m shocked she didn’t act out the same way with Thea. I just don’t think Laurel fits into the dynamic, and that’s my opinion.
First a little background about myself. I’ve been collecting comic books since I was in the Seventh grade and it’s been a long time since I graduated High School. lol I own tens of thousands of comic books. Really tens of thousands. I say this only to show where I’m coming from.
Now, how does this relate to the subject of this post: my grand theory of the plot for the ENTIRE third season of ‘Arrow’… I beg the reader’s indulgence a little longer.
One of the best comic book stories I’ve ever read is Daredevil’s “Born Again” (I promise, this is ALL going to make sense later, also, if you ever want to be totally surprised when you read “Born Again” skip this part :) Frank Miller (writer) and David Mazzucchelli’s (artist) masterpiece beings with Wilson Fisk, the Kingpin, finally learning Daredevil’s secret identity: Matt Murdock.
The Kingpin reacts quickly and once he verifies the information he begins to destroy Matt Murdock’s life. He proceeds to ruin him, financially, professionally, completely. Murdock can’t figure out who is doing it to him because, as far as he knows, his identity is protected from anyone capable of being behind such a plot.
As the situation worsens Matt lashes out, as Daredevil, and goes out night after night and tries to find out WHO is trying to destroy Matt Murdock, but he never finds any answers. And all the while Fisk watches, relishing in every new low that Murdock falls to. Finally, after Fisk believes he’s totally destroyed Matt he blows up the brownstone building that Murdock owns, with the certainty that Matt was inside, thus once and for all eliminating his greatest enemy Daredevil.
But Matt survives, and as he kneels on top of the rubble that was his home, the literal rubble of that was once his life Matt FINALLY realizes who was behind EVERYTHING and he speaks these words: “It was perfect Fisk, you just shouldn’t have signed it!"
Well I had that kind of moment tonight… it was perfect Ra’s, but you shouldn’t have signed it!! (See I told you it would make sense! :P) I know, I know I’m not there yet. Okay, more background:
Ra’s al Ghul was first introduced in 'Batman’ issue 232 (vol.1) in 1971. The issue was titled "Daughter of the Demon.” In the issue Batman finds that Dick Grayson, his ward and crime fighting partner Robin, has been kidnapped. Shortly afterwards Ra’s al Ghul arrives and informs Wayne that his daughter Talia has also been taken, most likely by the same people. He proposes they join forces to find them. During the process Batman deduces that it’s al Ghul himself behind the entire scheme. It was all a giant test to see if Bruce Wayne would prove to be a worthy successor to al Ghul himself.
So why is this important…because when I saw the new promo where it has Oliver’s DNA “proving” that he is Sara’s killer I knew! It was perfect Ra’s, just shouldn’t have signed it!
Okay, S3 is a GIANT adaptation of the seminal comic story “Daughter of Demon.” Follow: Ra’s wants to get rid of Sara. We know from this season that he never truly considered her worthy or a TRUE member of the League. I’m sure Sara’s actions in S2 only upset him even more BUT a man like al Ghul doesn’t try and take care of one problem when taking care of two is possible. Meaning, he gets rid of Sara but in a way that allows him to TEST Oliver Queen. TEST to see if Queen is a possible worthy successor to the Demon.
Now it all makes sense. Roy having the visions of him killing Sara, we thought it was just him working out his guilt over killing the police officer in S2. It was that but not JUST that. Ra’s agents placed those thoughts in Harper’s head because he wanted to see how Oliver would react. Would Oliver be weak, would he sacrifice his apprentice to appease Nyssa? No, Oliver choose strength. He stood by Harper. He dug deeper and discovered the “true” meaning behind the dreams. Saving Roy and passing another test set by al Ghul.
Then we have Malcolm. Ra’s knows that Merlyn had nothing to do with Sara’s death, but he was an easy person to sacrifice. An easy person to blame for the crime. Would Oliver deliver him up to al Ghul? It would have been easy to do. Or would he allow Merlyn to be killed, allow the League to kill a man that Queen wasn’t sure was guilty of the crime? It would have been easy to do. But Queen passed the test yet again, he didn’t offer up Malcolm, he didn’t just sit back and allow Merlyn to killed by the League, he stood up to Nyssa and told her that Malcolm was under his protection. Queen showed strength and will. And he passed another test set by al Ghul.
Now we have the DNA evidence and the League’s DEMAND that Oliver present Sara’s killer. Another test. Another opportunity to see what Oliver will do. Will he hid the evidence, will he offer up someone else to take his place, Malcolm perhaps? It would be an easy thing to do. What a weak man would do. But of course that isn’t what Oliver is going to do in the mid-season finale, the DNA evidence implicating him as Sara’s murder is “perfect” because it allows Oliver to offer up himself as the killer. But that’s not all, it gives him the chance to challenge al Ghul! Think how immensely pleased this all makes al Ghul, yet again Oliver passes another test!
Of course Oliver is going to lose the duel, of course everyone in Starling that knows about the duel will believe Oliver dead. Of course Ra’s is going to allow Oliver to escape…because it’s all another test! Will Oliver go off and hide, it’s what most would do. It would be easy. Or will he go back to Starling City and gather his forces. Will he inspire others to join his cause to FIGHT al Ghul. Because if a man can do THAT: inspire others to fight under his leadership against fearful odds then THAT MAN would be truly a worthy heir and successor!
This is 'Revenge of the Sith’, 'Empire Strikes Back’, 'Return of the Jedi’ stuff here guys! The vision that Oliver saw in “The Calm”, it’s just like the vision Luke saw in the cave in 'Empire’. Luke didn’t understand his vision and neither did Oliver. Oliver didn’t see “Oliver Queen”, the man that was in the way of The Arrow, because there is NO Arrow, there’s only Oliver Queen. There has only ever been Oliver Queen.
No, what Oliver saw was himself, with all the light gone. Who’s Oliver most afraid of, who does Oliver fear the most…he fears himself, totally consumed by darkness. All that skill, power, strength, and intelligence but with only evil driving it. If you’re an “Angel” fan, Oliver he saw his “Angelus”.
We were told that S3 is about identity, but we looked at it the wrong way sort of. It’s not about Oliver Queen V The Arrow, it’s about Oliver Queen the Light V Oliver Queen the Dark.
In the finale al Ghul is going to make Oliver THE OFFER. The same one Darth Sideous made to Luke in 'Jedi’: to join him, take his rightful place by Ra’s side, and in Vader’s words, rule!
The beauty of Ra’s plan is that should Oliver fail, should he break or shatter it will only prove that he was weak and therefore undeserving. Or at the end should Oliver choose the Light, well, he’ll have to be eliminated. A tragic waste but no great loss. After all, in Ra’s mind, he’ll just move on to the next possible candidate, maybe that other billionaire from Gotham…
So there you have it boys and girls: MY GRAND THEORY FOR SEASON THREE! I could be totally wrong but I think I’m close! :) BTW- if I’m right, then Amell was right too…this season is going to CRUSH 1 and 2! :) These writers are INCREDIBLE!
Also, thanks for reading this, hope it makes sense. :) And if you like it, I can share my thoughts for what I think is going to happen with Olicity back half of the season. :D