In regard to Sansa vs Jon as King/Queen in the North...I've got to disagree. Book Sansa, maybe, could develop in that direction but in the show? I just can't see it. She just seems horribly manipulative (mostly of Jon--and not just the lying but also her straight-up manipulation of Jon with Rickon). And that would be okay, I guess. The Starks need more people able to play the game on their side. But she also just doesn't act logically. Which is probably just bad writing but...
Well, I’m thankful we both agree the show is poorly written garbage.
Now I resent you for making me pick through that garbage to defend my position. Sansa doesn’t act logically? Okay, sure. But compared to Jon Schmo she’s a freaking Vulcan.
- give up trying to find more help to fight with the army they have (a shitty one)
- take a poorly disciplined and outnumbered army against a superior force in a formidable defensive position (fucking Winterfell)
- abandon the only shitty plan he had the moment Ramsay did something utterly predictable (and Sansa more or less warned he would do)
Sansa did play the game. She reached out to someone she dislikes (LF) to secure the means to victory. Yeah, it was extremely stupid to not tell Jon Schmo but considering how he used what few men he had, that’s something I can forgive.
Manipulation of Jon with Rickon? You mean the part where she reminded Jon that running away from not only the Wall but the North itself were not the best options? This is legit the king the North chose, a guy who was willing to abandon them all over the girl who did everything she could to take out the Boltons.
Yes, Jon bled in battle. A battle he would have lost. It was Sansa who won their war against the Boltons.
Even working with the show’s shit writing, I still prefer Sansa over Jon in this scenario.