The hijab is NOT always a choice. some Muslim women are pressured to wear it, and some are encouraged to not wear it. Instead of just saying “the hijab is a choice” or “the hijab is a symbol of oppression,” why don’t we have a constructive conversation about the hijab and how every woman’s experience and views of the hijab are different and shaped by a variety of factors. I think when we discuss veiling we should first acknowledge how Muslim women’s voices are continuously ignored in this debate. That’s a good place to start.
Last night for Assumption I attended a Mass in Latin, and it was a really neat experience. They did it the old traditional way with the priest facing away from the congregation. There were also quite a few women wearing lace veils. Have you ever tried veiling before? I'm considering crocheting one and trying it next time I go to a Latin Mass.
So, I actually do veil and have been doing so since last December. Although, I have never veiled at a Latin Mass because I have never been to a Latin Mass.
However, I do know that it is very common, almost expected, that people who are viewed as female (insert nonbinary grumbling here) veil during Latin Mass and that lace is a common material for making veils.
I think it’s cool that you want to try veiling. I do suggest that you decide whether or not you like veiling before you actually make your own veil. There is a few reasons for this.
1. If crocheting is anything like knitting then making a veil will take quite a bit of yarn and quite a bit of time. I don’t know about you, but I kind of like knowing that the things I make are going to be used.
2. There are as many ways to veil as there are reasons to veil. Veils vary a lot. Some people use hats; others use hoods; and still others use bandannas and scarves. Some are lacy, others opaque. Some have many colors, others have one. Some have small veils; others have big veils that goes past their shoulders. Then there is all the shapes.
If before you make a veil, you decide that veiling is not for you, then you don’t have to deal with all of this stuff. And if you decide that veiling is for you, then you will already have an idea of what you like in a veil when you go make one.
I think that’s it. If you have anymore questions about veiling you can always ask. I also have some tags about veiling (XXX) if you want to look through those (although they are fairly small).
I feel so beautiful in my veils but I’m so scared to wear them outside of my home..
Left is a deer/forest circular print for Artemis, middle a paisley pattern for the Theoi in general (seems to be a favourite of Persephone and Demeter), the right a vintage clock print originally bought for Kore, but ended up being dedicated to Hestia.
Some of you may know that I’m a Hellenic Polytheist, and that I veil for worship, ritual, and miasmic purposes. I’m also a witch and a diviner, and often mix the three concepts, since some naturally fall to the other (ex: divination and Hellenismos).
I have been veiling while I divine since I began doing it, because I was feeling extremely drained and used up. I was told by a friend who is also a witch and diviner that veiling might help keep the energy in, if that makes any sense. So I began to do it, and eventually it worked its way into my routine. I became Hellenic Polytheist shortly thereafter, and a while later discovered veiling. It felt very easy, and I was at home with the concept. The reasons one may veil vary, of course, but my reasons were to avoid miasma, show devotion to the Theoi, and keep myself protected from outside forces.
Anyway, I just thought I would share a little bit about why I veil during divination, since I feel it’s a fun concept.
While I love wearing just a plain loose headscarf, sometimes I need something that is just going to stay out of my way.
I found some great basic wrapping tutorials on Wrapunzel’s YouTube channel. I think this is a tichel style wrap. I prefer this technique because most of the volume is in the back instead of on top (I have a small face, so too much volume up top looks funny on me).
For those who are interested in how I tie my scarves, definitely check out Wrapunzel’s tutorials. I may share some of my favorites later!
(Note: I use the technique that many use when wrapping tichel, but this does not mean I wear tichel. I call mine a veil, scarf, or wrap. Tichel is worn by some married Jewish women for modesty, or tzniut. This does not apply to me, so I do not call it such.)
Is it okay to veil with a simple headscarf? Like is it considered innapropriate? I want to veil because it's so dramatic and aesthetic but Tumblr Trads have ruined the mantilla for me lol
I feel this. I’ve draped scarves over my head many times and what’s nice about it is that it doubles up as part of your outfit both before and after Mass, lol.
I like the aesthetic and I like head-coverings in general–for anyone of any gender. It fucking blows that Catholic men don’t have required or suggested head-coverings at Mass. They’re beautiful reminders of one’s lowliness and littleness, and they reinforce for me that I’m not in a common or everyday place.
any tips on discreet veiling? I wanna veil for Persephone while she's with Hades, but with the state of the country and whatnot, I'm scared to do anything obvious. thank you and may you have a wonderful day!!
Research. Look for styles you like and find out how to tie them. If they are from another religion, you’ll probably want to find out how they feel about “outsiders” wearing their covering. It’s also good to examine your reasoning and desire for covering. A Muslim woman in Walmart put it to me this way: “Unless you’re covering for the right reasons, you might as well not cover”. The woman in question didn’t cover. You might also considering adopting styles from your path’s history. I love Catholic prayer veils and veils in the style the Virgin Mary wore. Ancient Greek women veiled very similarly to the way Indian women do, and if I could every afford a scarf that large I’d try it myself! Also keep in mind, many styles of covering were used by more than one culture/religion. A lot of people have got yelled at for wearing hijab-like coverings and told the were cultural appropriating. While every Muslim I’ve talked to said there was no problem with this, and thus making it not cultural appropriation, and that anyone could wear Hijab, many people forget that the Hijab style of covering was in use long before Islam even existed and they’re not the only group that continues to cover in that fashion. Extremely similar styles were/are popular in Russian and many other Eastern European countries particularly among older women. They’re also very similar to the medieval wimple: The modernized wimple looks is likewise similar to many Hijab styles, though mostly the tube shaped under-scarf: . One of my favorite Hijab styles, popular in Pakistan, is similar to they way Indian women veil but also similar to the way some Ancient Greeks, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, and Celts veiled: . Thus said, research, in this case, is your friend.
Hats and bandannas (tied in “pirate” or “peasant” styles) are probably the easiest options and can be done without much money. Even if you don’t already have them you can usually find bandannas for a $1 or so and the same for hats.
I also suggest snoods (sometimes called hairnets, usually crocheted), though they can be a bit pricey. I get mine off Ebay for a few dollars a piece, but you get what you pay for.
For many styles I’d advise the use of an under-scarf will help keep things in place. I like to use wide fabric headbands as under-scarfs as they are rather inexpensive. Those headbands also make a nice beginner covering or for exercise. They come in various widths and styles. They’re especially good if you’re mostly worried about your crown chakra.
Oblong scarfs (the kind you usually wear around the neck) are also versatile. You can tie them in a tichel like style (looks a bit different tho), a “pirate”/“hippie” style, more like a headband, etc. The options are endless.
(all pictures were found through Google Images. The first three simply by searching “Wimple”, the last was found by searching “Pakistan Muslim Girls”).
For the first time during mass. I’ve always wanted to do it it’s something that I’ve desired to do but I never did because for me it means great responsibility idk why I chose today, I just did and may is mama Mary’s month. Please pray that I don’t chickened out. Idk why I should care what others think if this is between me and my creator.