punisher kills the marvel universe


First Appearance New Mutants (1983-1991) #98 (1991) | Created By Fabian Nicieza, Rob Liefeld | Name Wade Wilson

Current Comics Deadpool (2015), Despicable Deadool (2017), Spider-Man/Deadpool (2016), Deadpool: Back in Black (2017), Deadpool: Too Soon? (2017), Deadpool the Duck (2017), Deadpool vs. The Punisher (2017), Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe Again (2017), Uncanny Avengers (2015), Deadpool & the Mercs for Money (2016), Deadpool & Cable: Split Second (2015), Deadpool: Bad Blood (2017)

lightdusk  asked:

Hey, Linkara... DC is going to turn Nightwing into a genocidal fascistic enforcer of a regime that results in the murder and incatceratiom of hundreds of superpowered heroes (including Superman). Basically, it's Act of God x Secret Empire Cap x Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe. With NIGHTWING. Nothing is sacred anymore...

Sooo I looked into this and it looks like some kind of Elseworlds story just not CALLED an Elseworlds story? Especially since they said it takes place in a dark future and that it won’t be interrupting the Nightwing DC Rebirth stuff?

For those who haven’t seen Captain America Civil War yet, huge spoilers ahead.

For the others, this is a post about Colonel Helmut Zemo, ok? I have so many things to say about this character.

I saw the movie last Saturday and I can’t get him off my mind. As a comic reader, I always enjoyed Baron Zemo, I thought he had a a certain class even though he was a nazi, I mean I didn’t approve of what he stood for and all but he always was an interesting character with interesting stories and an interesting evolution (Citizen V and the Thunderbolts made me love him a little more). I also have to say that usually I get a little mad or sad when the movies change a whole character (I have this obsession with staying close to the source and all). But in the case of Zemo, I don’t mind at all: on the contrary, I enjoy it even more.

Helmut Zemo is, to me, the best Marvel villain in the whole MCU (maybe ex-aequo with Fisk, I should re-watch Daredevil to see). Loki was good, sure, but it was a basic villain who was jealous and wanted power and all. Entertaining, but not as strong as Zemo in so many ways.

First of, Zemo is understandable. He’s not that basic villain who wants power and to be king and all, like Loki or Red Skull. He doesn’t want to destroy the world like Ultron either (who I kind of enjoyed more than Loki btw). Zemo’s actions are understandable in the end, and it personally left me wondering if I wouldn’t have tried and done the same in his place. He lost his entire family in the Battle of Sokovia: his father, his wife and his son. His reaction is not unlike Punisher’s in Daredevil season 2, and it even ressembles Punisher’s very first apparition in comic books (Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe or whatever the name was, in which Frank Castle was enjoying a day in the park with his family when heroes and villains started a battle and his family got killed in the middle of the action). In that comic, Punisher seeks out for revenge and kills everyone. Zemo acts the same way, but less violently, which brings me to my second point.

Zemo isn’t that violent. How many did he killed in the movie? Let’s count. T’chaka, T’challa’s father, in Vienna during the explosion (was there any more victims? I don’t think so but I could be wrong guys don’t hesitate to correct me), the psychiatrist who’s place he took to go meet Bucky, and Bucky’s previous handler who worked for Hydra. And those five super-Winter Soldiers kept in Siberia, but dare tell me that them and the Hydra handler are a huge loss. T’chaka is one, sure, but was Zemo really trying to kill anyone at Vienna? He only wanted to attract attention on Bucky. Zemo isn’t one of those villains who just kill like that, unlike Loki who brought a whole army of aliens in NYC (lots of deaths) or even Ultron and his army in Sokovia (looooooots of deaths), nor even like Crossbones that we barely see in the beginning of the movie (he didn’t hesitate to blow himself up and take down innocents). Zemo’s goal isn’t to kill for fun or govern the world or anything: it’s simply revenge.

Revenge is something that we all understand, especially when it’s to avenge family. See Tony at the end of the movie: he doesn’t think, he just attacks Bucky because he killed his mother (and father but let’s not get back on that I’m still crying). Imagine being in Zemo’s shoes. As a colonel, he must have always expected to die in action and leave his family behind. He probably never thought that he would be the one to survive and mourn them. He even took precautions, they lived in the countryside, not in the city which looked lik a huge mess from what we saw of it in A:AoU (I haven’t seen it since it came out, but I remember it as kinda ruined and all, and I remember Pietro and/or Wanda mentionning how they stayed a couple of days stuck next to a bomb or something, no?). So their deaths came as a huge and unexpected shock to him. Just as it did to Frank Castle/Punisher. You get the similarities between them I think.

My whole thing is a little of a mess but I think you get the main of it. Zemo is such an understable character and that makes him memorable and simply amazing.

One last thing: Zemo succeeded. He created a civil war between the Avengers. Loki tried, remember, but it only made the team stronger. Ultron almost succeeded too, with Tony opposed to Cap for a moment (when they’re about to create Vision for instance), but they stayed a team. But Zemo? He succeeded. They fought, almost to the death. They fought and they bled.

Zemo, a man who had nothing, did what a God (and an Artificial Intelligence) couldn’t do: break Earth’s Mightiest Heroes.

Thanks for your help, Matt. Y'know, I almost considered asking you to be my lawyer. But you’ve always been a little too smart for your own good and mine.

Trial of the Punisher #2

Marc Guggenheim + Mico Suayan

While Matt has served as Frank’s lawyer in multiple alternate universes (Powerless and Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe specifically, along with a cameo within the Punisher video game), he has never filled this position in proper Marvel canon – despite how often Frank ends up in this situation.

Matt did, however, become the attorney of Rachel Cole-Alves, during Punisher: War Zone. This is only made obvious when you read the recaps, which are set-up like newspaper articles, and quote Matt speaking in her defense.


And they said sorry!

Punisher vs. Wolverine from The Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe

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