publius esquire

Lams AU Masterpost

@publius-esquire and @madtomedgar have been writing a fantastic, extended Hamilton/Laurens fanfic since 2013. The basic premise is that Laurens survived the Battle of the Combahee River. Politics, angst, sex, and sometimes a combination of all three. 

They aren’t written in a serialized format, but I’ve made a list that puts them in chronological order. There are a few ficlets that can really go anywhere, so I’ve just placed them strategically. If you’d rather read them in order of when they were posted, you can here or here. Most stories that need a content warning have one at the start.

Last updated: August 1st, 2016. Most recently updated story is starred and bolded.

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Honestly though the Hamilton squad is such a good representation of the houses

Hamilton - SUCH a Gryffindor WOWEE literally a bigger posterchild than Harry Potter himself. Stubborn, Obsessed with his Legacy, and Brave AF. Literally the easiest MT sorting I have ever done Alexander is such a Gryffindor I love it

Burr - Slytherin. No arguments allowed. He craves power, and keeps those closest to him tight to his chest. He is uber traditional in how he goes about his life. Every statement is well thought out, and he holds his tongue to keep in others good graces - literally the model of a political slytherin. (Also his relationship with Hamilton is a perfect love-hate Gryffindor relationship tbh)

Mulligan - Ravenclaw. The man has the mental fortitude to be a MASSIVE spy on British Forces, not to mention the fact that he is clever AF. Go read the lyrics to anything that comes out of his mouth. Creative and Clever AF

Laurens - Sweet precious bb is definitely a Hufflepuff. He see’s the horrific injustice in the world, and he dedicated his life to repairing it. He is arguably the hardest worker (minus Alex who had a fricking complex) of the group, and his commitment to ending Slavery is a definite sign of his innate sense of fairness. Not to mention his loyalty to the group (Especially Alex).

And then there’s Lafayette, the hot boy from Beauxbatons who pals around with everybody. 

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thank you all for 600 followers! :) it’s so hard to believe that i’ve only been here for two months and i’ve already fallen in love with all of you!!! i was thinking about what to do but what better way to celebrate then by showing you guys the blogs that made me got to where i am are totally cooler than me??

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anonymous asked:

who are some of your favorite history blogs/friends that you'd recomend following?

My favorite blogs: @ploddingthroughthepresidents, @parkersrevenge, @deadpresidents, @teamputvedev, @marthajefferson

Friends you should follow!: @abbaeadams@sunshineapollo@franciskinloch​, @john-andre

Other blogs you should follow: @publius-esquire, @wittyhistorian, @modernmissbennet@kosciuszkovevo, @deartotheheart, @nathanyale, @hclemadge, @revolutionary-pirate, @iafayettes, @john-andre

until i saw those posts from @publius-esquire​ i had literally no idea that women and free black americans (with property) had the vote in some states when the constitution was ratified and they lost those rights. and this wasn’t something theoretical, women and black people did vote. and it wasn’t like the states had just forgotten to specify they meant white men, laws in new jersey passed in 1790 and 1797 referred to voters as “he or she.” 

history≠consistent progress, and thinking that it does helps excuse past intolerance/oppression as an inevitable stepping stone towards enlightenment and tolerance. if schools taught american history differently, maybe more students would realize that oppression is a product of hate, not ignorance. i wish i could be more articulate. i’m so fucking angry no one ever taught me this.

anonymous asked:

you wishing really really hard that he was gay because of idk why, being a shipper or whatever, doesn't mean he was actually gay, dude. all signs point to the fact that he was straight (as was hamilton), you have wishful thinking instead of proof so you need to stop your reaching mixed with your uncalled-for and ridiculously undeserved superiority complex

First of all, I’m not wishing that Laurens was gay because I’m a crazed or fetishizing shipper.  I sincerely believe that he was gay because of the evidence that we have, and I want to show queer people that we have historical representation in people like John Laurens.  You seem to think that historical figures can only be seen as queer by crazy shippers and their “wishful thinking,” and I’m wondering why you and others cannot seem to accept the fact that many people throughout history were queer.

“all signs point to the fact that he was straight (as was hamilton), you have wishful thinking instead of proof so you need to stop your reaching” - the rudeness and ridiculousness of this claim almost makes me not want to dignify this with a response, but I am far too passionate about this subject to let this claim go unrefuted.  I will gladly provide you with proof that Laurens was gay.

1) Henry Laurens to James Grant, October 13, 1767 - “Master Jack is too closely wedded to his studies to think about any of the Miss Nanny’s I would not have such a sound in his Ear, for a Crown; why drive the poor Dog, to what Nature will irresistably prompt him to be plagued with in all probability much too soon.”  Henry Laurens wrote that his soon-to-be-13-year-old son showed absolutely no attraction to girls.

2) Francis Kinloch, a close friend of John’s and a fellow South Carolinian, likely had a romantic relationship with Laurens or at least helped Laurens realize his sexuality.  I have a very in-depth post here about the two.  Laurens wrote to Kinloch sentiments such as “You and I may differ my Dear Kinloch in our political Sentiments but I shall always love you from the Knowledge I have of your Heart,” “My love as usual,” and “dont delay to write to your affectionate John Laurens.”  Dates of letters and the birthdate of John’s daughter suggest that Laurens went to Martha Manning as a sort of rebound after his “breakup” with Kinloch.  There is also a chance that Laurens named his child after Kinloch.  I have a lot more information in the linked post above, so I suggest you read that to have a better understanding of this relationship.

3) The fact that Laurens was married and had a kid does not irrefutably prove that he was straight.  Laurens lived in a very heteronormative society, and Laurens would have felt compelled by societal pressures and his strict Christian father to seek out a relationship with a woman even if he did not want one.  Queer people could not be open about their sexualities and often had to hide their true selves or convince themselves that they were straight.  Laurens very likely saw being gay as wrong due to his upbringing, and he likely had a lot of internalized homophobia.  Laurens probably sought out a relationship with Martha Manning to prove to himself, his father, and the society of his time that he was not gay.  When Martha ended up pregnant, Laurens married her solely to preserve her honor and the honor of their child.  Women who had sex out of marriage were not widely accepted in society, and the child would have been scorned as well.  Laurens wrote to his uncle, “Pity has obliged me to marry.”  This was not a union born out of love.  Laurens distanced himself from Martha after they had sex and never met his child.  To judge this man or any queer person based on one sexual encounter and dictate their sexuality based on said sexual encounter is incredibly offensive to queer people.  Sexual acts do not dictate attraction.

4) Laurens’s relationship with Hamilton is very supportive of the claim that Laurens was gay (and the claim that Hamilton was bisexual).  I’ll go through a bit of an abbreviated list here, but there’s a lot to be covered.

The Hamilton-Laurens letters are quite indicative of a romantic relationship between the two.  Their letters, particularly the ones from Hamilton, are full of innuendo that went beyond the language commonly used by men in “romantic friendships” of the day.

Laurens called Hamilton “my dear boy.”  Hamilton was the only one Laurens used this term of endearment with.

Hamilton’s April 1779 letter to Laurens is probably the most well-known of these letters, and for good reason.  Hamilton opened with the following:

Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that ’till you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done. You know the opinion I entertain of mankind, and how much it is my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments, and to keep my happiness independent on the caprice of others. You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal into my affections without my consent. But as you have done it and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue to merit the partiality, which you have so artfully instilled into me.

This is quite affectionate, even if we consider norms of the time period.  Hamilton goes on to indicate that he was completely unaware that Laurens was married.  This letter was written 1.5 years into the Hamilton-Laurens relationship.  The fact that Laurens went that long without telling Hamilton he was married suggests he wanted to keep his marital status hidden from Hamilton.  Hamilton had served as Laurens’s second in a duel in December 1778 - for Hamilton to be a second and not be aware that the man he was backing was married with a child is almost incomprehensible.

Hamilton then jokes with Laurens about finding him a wife and uses this space to write as much sexual innuendo as possible:

To excite their emulation, it will be necessary for you to give an account of the lover—his size, make, quality of mind and body, achievements, expectations, fortune, &c. In drawing my picture, you will no doubt be civil to your friend; mind you do justice to the length of my nose and don’t forget, that I ⟨– – – – –⟩.

Those five dashes at the end represent the five words that were scratched out by John C. Hamilton, Hamilton’s son, when he was compiling his father’s letters.  John C. Hamilton also wrote “I must not publish the whole of this” at the top of this letter.

Hamilton and Laurens could also not stand to be separated.  When Laurens left for South Carolina to work on his black regiment, Hamilton practically begged Washington for a position in the South as well (Washington refused).  Laurens wrote the following to Hamilton on July 14, 1779:

Ternant will relate to you how many violent struggles I have had between duty and inclination 

Hamilton, on multiple occasions, wrote that he hated everything in the world except Laurens. (1, 2)

In his September 12, 1780 letter to Laurens, Hamilton used the phrase “taken the liberty” in another paragraph of highly suggestive sexual innuendo.

Hamilton waited a while before revealing to Laurens that he was engaged to Elizabeth Schuyler, and when he finally did, he assured Laurens that his love for him would not wane.  He specifically wrote that their love would not be “cured” by his marriage to Schuyler - an odd choice of words if Hamilton and Laurens were truly straight:

In spite of Schuylers black eyes, I have still a part for the public and another for you; so your impatience to have me married is misplaced; a strange cure by the way, as if after matrimony I was to be less devoted than I am now.

Hamilton also essentially invited Laurens to a wedding night threesome:

I wish you were at liberty to transgress the bounds of Pensylvania. I would invite you after the fall to Albany to be witness to the final consummation. My Mistress is a good girl, and already loves you because I have told her you are a clever fellow and my friend; but mind, she loves you a l’americaine not a la françoise.

Laurens closed his last letter to Hamilton with, “You know the unalterable sentiments of your affectionate Laurens.” Hamilton closed his last letter to Laurens with, “Yrs for ever.”

@alexanderglamilton has a post here with some more insight into these letters as well.

I cover some other things in these four posts as well: 1, 2, 3, 4.

5) A majority of history texts have been written by straight, white, middle-aged men.  This has resulted in centuries of queer erasure.

6) I have been researching Laurens for three years.  While you may not agree with my opinion, I ask that you respect it instead of dismissing it as the ramblings of a crazed shipper.

7) I apologize if I came off like I have a superiority complex - I honestly thought my post that started this whole debate was pretty non-confrontational.

8) I refer you to @publius-esquire, @madtomedgar, @ciceroprofacto, and @alexanderglamilton if you want more information on Laurens’s sexuality or queer history in general.

thomasmxller  asked:

while i am waiting patiently for the next chapter, do you have any lams fics you would recommend?

10 Lams Fic Rec:

Okay, this took a while and I have no bookmarking system so this is missing so much and covers a lot of the obvious ones. My tagging/not tagging here is pretty random. Forgive me.

1. Ocular by @iniquiticity (historical/canon)

2. (and we’ll die in) the class we were born in by Quietbang (modern campaign au) WIP

3. Actions by @a-schuyler​ (historical lams get caught) WIP

4. interstate by @meadowlarkx​ (modern cute reunion one shot)

5. Lams AU by @publius-esquire​ and @madtomedgar (started 2013, WIP, historical/canon)

6. Elephant in the Room by Intergalactic_Asher (historical/canon 5 times Washington catches them)

7. the wicked oppressing now cease from distressing by @tobyzielgerintraining (modern thanksgiving in SC)

8. reprieve by peakgay (historical/canon worried Laurens, overworked Ham)

9. Notes Concerning Certain Performances of Hamilton by @scioscribe​ (all pairings really, but seriously amazing meta)

10. ink on his fingers and a smile on his face by scioscribe again with no shame (modern au photography 5+1)


Okay, after posting this I’m sure to remember a gazillion others I love but these are the ones that came to mind because I am Lams Trash. Enjoy. (there’s not actually that much pain here)

anonymous asked:

who are your fav blogs/friends on here! i wanna follow new history people (:

I’m new in this fandom so I don’t have that many friends yet, so I’m just going to list the blogs that I follow (obsessively - kidding! To the blogs tagged here, please don’t blacklist me):

These are exclusively AmRev and early American history blogs which post discussions and discourse that I find interesting because I like to pretend that I’m intelligent enough to comprehend them.

@ciceroprofacto, @john-laurens & @publius-esquire are staples for any Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens Tumblr fan!

These are my other favorite blogs:

1. @iafayettes (AmRev+early American history)

2. @revolutionary-pirate (AmRev, with a focus on George Washington’s military family/aides de camp)

3. @fiftysevenacademics (AmRev+early American history+more)

4. @foundingfatherfest (Early American history)

5. @thephantomofthelibrary (Early American history+British history)

6. @sonofhistory  (AmRev+early American history+more)

7. @saint-olga / @svollga (AmRev+early American history)

8. @thelittlelionofvalleyforge (AmRev)  

9. @marq-de-laf (AmRev+Marquis de Lafayette)

Edited - 06/21/17

10. @adhd-ahamilton (AmRev)

11. @knee-breeches (Early American history)

12. @ploddingthroughthepresidents (Early American history)

Edited - 06/29/17

13. @philly-osopher (Early American history)

I’ll probably add more in the future! Thanks again for asking. :)

Hey, if you also feel like the Hamildoc brushed over the actresses and the female characters of Hamilton, you’re not alone! Unlike what we tend to believe, unlike what Chernow said, and thus Lin-Manuel Miranda, we actually do know quite a bit about them and their stories.

Here is a masterpost of everything we know about Maria Reynolds.

Here is a blog dedicated to publishing Eliza’s letters − they have not all been destroyed!

Some blogs that have written about and researched those ladies that you should follow and explore: @runawayforthesummer, @madamejumel, @publius-esquire, @schuylering

Education is at hand, y’all. Don’t let the Hamildoc, don’t let anyone erase these ladies because they existed and led full lives that left a mark on the world and everyone deserves to learn about them.

People you need to follow because they are beautiful people

@katzun draws AMAZINGLY- her Aaron Burr and Alexander give me life and her bees animation has spoken to my soul. (Also, I love all your drawing styles!)

@ask-thelittleheros makes the most adorable hero children ever. I remember finding this blog and throwing my phone (it hit my ceiling) in the air because it got me hype af

@wrotemywayoutimagines and @a-schuylerr wrote the most BEAUTIFUL STORIES ON THIS EARTH. They both really inspire me and they are just outstanding.

@publius-esquire I don’t even have words for this oh gosh. In summary; THIS BLOG MAKES THE FOUNDING FATHERS SEXY AS HELL FAM

@haetherhaetherandhaether where 👏🏼 all 👏🏼 the 👏🏼 good 👏🏼 happy and not depressing 👏🏼 heatherness 👏🏼 comes 👏🏼 from 👏🏼

@love-doesnt-discriminate Im actually speechless but, this person has the most best soul omll. OKAY THE WRITING IS B R E A T H T A K I N G and she listens and posts really encourage things and I love this blog and I love her and ahhhHhHHh

anonymous asked:

Ok but you thinking Laurens was gay is only your interpretation as well? He was married to a woman and if you like to imagine him as gay for whatever reason you're free to but don't invalidate people who think he was straight as we DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. Hence, your opinion is just as valid as of those who think he was straight, if not less so due to actual historical evidence.

We certainly approach our interpretations of historical figures with our own biases, but I assure you that I have a great deal of historical support for my interpretation of Laurens as a gay man.  I have been researching Laurens for about three years now and would be happy to discuss his sexuality with you.

Allow me to break down my argument.

1) “He was married to a woman”

Yes, this is true.  But it seems to me that you’re using this one fact to convince me that he was straight, and you don’t seem to be aware of any of the context behind that marriage.  John Laurens and Martha Manning seem to have been good friends and got along quite well - until they had sex.  After they had sex, Laurens largely avoided her and married her only because she was pregnant.  If he had not married her, Martha and her daughter would have been scorned by society as a fornicator and illegitimate child.  Laurens wrote to his uncle, “Pity has obliged me to marry.”  Not much love in that sentiment.  Laurens left England before his child was born and would die about 5.5 years later, never seeing his wife or child again.  This is a tricky situation to explain because he did make a couple attempts to bring them over to America but was thwarted by the fact that there was a war going on between their countries.  However, Laurens only wrote a couple letters to his wife during their marriage, and he does not seem to have made any attempts to visit them when he traveled to France.

Additionally, just because someone was married to a person of a different gender does not mean that said person was straight.  Sexual encounters do not dictate sexual attraction.  Laurens lived in the 18th century and would have been pressured by societal norms and his strict Christian father to seek out a woman to marry, even if he did not want to.  Queer people were not able to fully be themselves and often sought out relationships with someone of a different gender so that they could hide their true sexuality or try to convince themselves that they were truly straight (sad, but unfortunately true).  @ciceroprofacto recently made a post about compulsive heterosexuality here.

Furthermore, I think it is quite possible that Laurens’s sexual encounter with Martha Manning resulted from a sort of breakup Laurens had with Francis Kinloch.  Kinloch and Laurens were very close, and Laurens’s letters to Kinloch exhibit significant levels of affection and attraction (“You and I may differ my Dear Kinloch in our political Sentiments but I shall always love you from the Knowledge I have of your Heart.” - JL to FK, April 12, 1776).  I have a post that outlines the Laurens-Kinloch “breakup” here.  You will see that the dates of said breakup align perfectly with the conception of Laurens’s daughter.  Coincidence?  Perhaps, but I think not.  To me, it seems that Laurens sought out Martha Manning as a sort of rebound after his breakup with Kinloch.  At the very least, Laurens seems to have courted and had sex with Martha as a way to convince himself and the world that he was not gay.

2) “we DON’T KNOW FOR SURE”

True, in a way, but I think the evidence is definitely in favor of Laurens being gay.  Also, you seem quite offended by my remarks that Laurens was likely gay.  Queer people have existed throughout history, but whenever queer people try to say that a historical figure was likely queer, people get up in arms over the fact that their historical fav wasn’t straight.  The “we don’t really know” argument only comes up when a historical figure is said to be queer.  No one seems to have any issue with calling the majority of (or honestly, all) historical figures straight.

Are you looking for a straight character from Hamilton to use in your posts?  You have plenty - Eliza, Angelica, Peggy, Jefferson, Mulligan, Philip (possibly Washington and Madison as well, but an argument can be made that they were asexual).  All I ask is that we not erase the sexuality of historical figures who were very likely queer (e.g. Laurens, Hamilton).

3) “Hence, your opinion is just as valid as of those who think he was straight, if not less so due to actual historical evidence.”

You say you have historical evidence that supports your interpretation of Laurens as straight - I would appreciate it if you could share that evidence with me.  Other than saying he was married, you haven’t really presented any support for your side (though I do understand that the character limit could have prevented you from expounding upon your thoughts).

I have posts here, here, here, and here (and numerous others throughout my blog) that discuss Laurens’s sexuality.  I also have another ask to answer (similar to yours, perhaps also from you) where I will be going into greater detail about Laurens’s sexuality and the Hamilton-Laurens relationship.  I’m sure blogs like @publius-esquire, @madtomedgar, @ciceroprofacto, and @alexanderglamilton would also be willing to discuss Laurens’s sexuality and queer history in general if you would like to seek out additional information there.

TURN and André’s Execution

I promised this post was coming, and here it is.

Let me just preface with the fact that I’m going to try and be as unbiased as possible while also trying to voice my feelings/concerns on last night’s episode of Turn. I’m going to try and analyze everything that happened scene by scene, to focus on historical inaccuracy and its overall effect on the show/André’s character. Everything is below the cut because this is clocking in at over 1,500 words. I’m sure I’m going to miss a few things, but you’re more than welcome to hit me up if you’ve got any questions.

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genderfluidangelica  asked:

okok I just listened to Hamilton last week and I'm just getting into the fandom so any words of advice? blog recs, fic recs please?

words of advice (this is gonna sound rlly bad, but it’s just real ok trust me)

- look at things that people are getting dragged for and as a general rule, don’t do those things (this is obvious tho)

- i mean srsly the best piece of advice i can give you is don’t be racist (and if someone calls u out for something, and you didn’t know it was wrong somehow, pls just apologize and fix the problem rather than demanding to know why someone is offended… u can ask for an explanation later)

- remember that the actual historical figures (yes, including aham) were terrible people and that hamilton isn’t really meant to be about them at all

- on that note, don’t believe everything the musical says. actual history is pretty interesting, and doing your own research will Maximize Understanding™

blog recs

well… it rlly depends what ur thing is… but for just general hamilton blogs?

actual history: @madamejumel @publius-esquire @liljemmy (KIND OF) @danielwebster @john-laurens (im sorry i really don’t follow all that many people

lots of stuff: @ham-for-ham @lcfayatte @pcggyschuyler @ihatethomasjefferson @versiailles @jasmineschuyler @daveeddiggz @ratherthanwords @tchxllax (elyssa is a loser i love them) @ham-lin-ton @auronburr

funny stuff: @incorrect-hamilton-quotes @hamiltontextsfromlastnight @feeltheaaronburn

shippy stuff: @alexanburrsir @burramy @talkless-sinmore idk i tried i rlly did

writing and art stuff: @writelikeitsgoingoutofstyle @macaroon22 @lesbianpeggys @birdloaf @yamhaylet @dorothywonderland

fic recs

first of all, u obviously have to read my fics duh (jk) at ao3.org/users/asphodelgrimoire

again everything by writelikeitsgoingoutofstyle

THIS OK YOU JUST GOTTA (it’s hamburr btw)

more hamburr

ummmm my ao3 bookmarks?

im drawing a blank y’all

Jefferson/Hamilton - Garter belts and champagne

[[ Publius: I feel ridiculous for this, just so you know ]]

“I took the liberty of bringing my own selection of wine. I think you’ll find once you’ve tasted an ’87 Bordeaux, there is nothing…quite like…it.” Jefferson paused as his host took the bottle gladly and motioned for him to sit.

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anonymous asked:

"I am angry with you for having “taken the liberty” to introduce Van derhorst2 and Mr. Call.3 If you had simply introduced them, (without taking such a liberty with me) I should have been obliged to you. They will tell you however, that we have done all we could to make their stay in Camp agreeable." It's alright to ignore me if you don't but do you know why Hamilton would be angry about this?

Unfortunately, I’m not really sure what Hamilton was referring to here.  I don’t know who Van Derhorst or Call were.  @publius-esquire might be able to help you.

Hamilton Fic Reader

I finally dragged @fractalbright into Hamilton so to celebrate, I’ve compiled a fanfic reader for her! If I’m aware the author is on tumblr, I’ve done my best to @ them. If I missed anyone, please let them know! Please tread cautiously; most authors include potential content warnings in the tag, so I haven’t bothered unless something really stuck in my mind. If you like a fanfic, let the author know! Most of them have written fics beyond what I’ve linked here, and you should check those out too. 

* indicates historical RPF rather than musical portrayals 

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anonymous asked:

Hello, I was curious as to whether or not there are any hints existing that either Hamilton or Laurens may have been attracted to/in a relationship with men other than each other, or if any other people who knew them ever wrote on the subject of their attractions. Thanks in advance!

Throughout his life, Laurens seems to have shown little/no interest in women and formed his closest relationships with men.  His father stated that he showed no interest in girls (Henry Laurens to James Grant, October 13, 1767):

Master Jack is too closely wedded to his studies to think about any of the Miss Nanny’s I would not have such a sound in his Ear, for a Crown; why drive the poor Dog, to what Nature will irresistably prompt him to be plagued with in all probability much too soon.

Massey also wrote about Laurens reserving his closest emotional attachments for other men:

In Geneva John worked hard, but he did not let his studies prevent him from forming close ties with fellow students and teachers.  It marked the beginning of a pattern: he continually centered his life around homosocial attachments to other men.  A handsome young man, properly genteel in his comportment, intellectually stimulating in his conversation, John never had difficulty attracting women and men.  Women played important roles in his life, but he reserved his primary emotional commitments for other men.

Laurens seems to have been as close to Francis Kinloch as he was to Alexander Hamilton.  Laurens and Kinloch were both from South Carolina, but I do not believe that the two met until they went to Geneva for their studies.  They established a very close relationship at this time, and many of Laurens’s closings in his letters to Kinloch mirror the closings he would later send to Hamilton.  Take this for example:

it grows so late that I must bid you Adieu. Kiss all the pretty Genevoises for me, and don’t delay to write to your affectionate John Laurens. 

However, Laurens and Kinloch seemed to grow apart after they started establishing their stances on the war (Laurens was very much a patriot, while Kinloch was a loyalist).

It is also possible that Laurens named his daughter (Frances Eleanor Laurens) after Kinloch, but @madtomedgar informed me that there was an author named Frances Burney who was very popular during that time, so Frances Laurens could have been named after her.

I have a post about Kinloch here, and I’m actually going to be posting a longer post with an in-depth look at the Laurens-Kinloch relationship sometime soon.

There was also a teacher that Laurens may have been interested in, but I haven’t looked into this very much.  Here’s another quote from Massey’s bio on Laurens:

L. de Vegobre, who served as John’s mathematics teacher, grew especially fond of his American student.  John reciprocated by tutoring de Vegobre in English.  De Vegobre honed his skills on current English literature, including Samuel Richardson’s Clarissa, one of the century’s best-selling sentimental novels.  The young men shared much in common: de Vegobre, like John, was preparing himself to be a lawyer, though he preferred the study of science; moreover, they both spoke the language of sensibility.  “I can think of nothing more sadly insipid,” de Vegobre told John, “than to live without any affections of the heart.”  With that sentiment, John heartily agreed.

As for Alexander Hamilton’s relationships, I would ask @publius-esquire.