propioception-deactivated201504 asked:

I'd like to apologize for what I said about you earlier, it was uncalled for. I recognize that you state capitalism has it's ugly side, as an argument to the "communism is bad, people died from these communist nations" argument. I agree that capitalist nations do not always do things in the best interest of "other" people. But, it is in the "communist" nations where it's own people have been rounded up, sent off to prisons, executed, for having a differing view point from their government's. 1/2

I have been thinking of reading up on Marx, but what do you mean by “don’t stop there”. Again, I’m sorry for insulting your intelligence, I was angry at your grouping of WW1 and 2, but that is no excuse.

whoa man you missed the boat we’re talking about lesbian heist films now. seriously though i said “don’t stop there” because there’s several vibrant traditions of communist thought since marx, all of which deal in their own ways with the successes and failures of “actually existing socialism” (a truly communist society has not yet been built). but here’s the thing: all the crimes you ascribe to ‘communist’ countries are worse under capitalism. you want to talk about artificially created famines? secret prisons? mass execution of political prisoners? on all of these counts, the supposed crimes of communism (which, in things like the black book of communism, are exaggerated due to propaganda and shoddy scholarship) are outdone by orders of magnitude by the crimes of capitalism.
Oliver Sacks, The Disembodied Woman. 1985

Have you ever wondered what it would be like if your body lost its sense of self? A feeling that you couldn’t feel your own limbs? A feeling of being disembodied?

That’s how Christina felt, a client of Dr. Oliver Sacks. She lost her proprioceptive senses. “The parietal lobes were working but had nothing to work with.” “Standing was impossible-unless she looked down at her feet. She could hold nothing in her hands, and they ‘wandered’-unless she kept an eye on them. When she reached out for something, or tried to feed herself, her hands would miss, or overshoot widely, as if some essential control or coordination was gone.”

She said, “I can’t feel my body. I feel weird-disembodied.” “What I must do then is use vision, use my eyes, in every situation where i used proprioception before. I’ve already noticed that I may 'lose’ my arms. I think they’re one place, and I find they’re in another. This 'proprioception’ is like the eyes of the body, the way the body sees itself. And if it goes, as it’s gone with me, it’s like the body’s blind. My body can’t 'see’ itself if it’s lost its eyes, right? So I have to watch it-be it’s eyes. Right?”

Having to now use her eyes to monitor her every move. Have you ever related to such a thing? For Christina, this is her new life. “Christina learned to walk, to take public transport, to conduct the usual business of life-but only with the exercise of great vigilance, and strange ways of doing things-ways which might break down if her attention was diverted….everything had to be done by vision, not feel.”

In explaining how her body felt without the proprioception senses, she said, “I feel my body is blind and deft to itself….it has no sense of itself.”

Oliver Sacks even mentioned how society may not be sympathetic at all to this. I feel it’s worth noting here. “The lack of social support and sympathy is an additional trial: disabled, but with the nature of her disability not clear-she is not, after all, manifestly blind or paralyzed, manifestly anything-she tends to be treated as a phoney or a fool. This is what happens to those with disorders of the hidden senses…”

She even said to Dr. Sacks, “I can’t identify with that graceful girl anymore! She’s gone. I can’t remember her. I can’t even imagine her. It’s like something’s been scooped right out of me, right at the center…that’s what they do with frogs, isn’t it? They scoop out the center, the spinal cord, they pith them…That’s what I am, pithed, like a frog…Step up, come and see Chris, the first pithed human being. She’s no proprioception, no sense of herself-disembodied Chris, the pithed girl!”

Oliver Sacks had this to write after that, “In some sense, she is 'pithed’, disembodied, a sort of wraith. She has lost, with her sense of proprioception, the fundamental, organic mooring of identity-at least of that corporeal identity, or body ego….Some such depersonalization or derealization must always occur, when there are deep disturbances of body perception or body image.”

“She is one of those unsung heroes, or heroines, or neurological affliction.”

-Oliver Sacks. The Disembodied Woman, 1985