projectile spamming

What the egos play in smash

Dark: jigglypuff, don’t be confused when he picks this as your gonna end up blasted off the stage with a rest, true evil, no one expects it

Wilford: Peach or Bayonetta. With peach he’ll always pull stitch faces and bomb ombs and with bayonetta he has perfect witch times.

Google: Fox, he’s gonna do so much chip damage and do perfect reflections, he’s calculating every percent and knows exactly which moves ko which characters when.

Host: Lucario, he sees it as a win win. If your low on health you do more damage so even if your hurt your in an advantage what’s there to lose


Silver Shepard: Captian Falcon. He’s gonna try to hit EVERY falcon punch

Ed: Duck Hunt and he’s gonna go and spam every projectile ever at the edge of the stage and then taunt

Bim: Mario. He likes to play for fun, and likes to commentate more then actually play. he tries to fludd push people off alot.

King of squirrels: Pikachu cause he thinks it’s cute and reminds him of this one squirrel he likes

Comparison (Final Rose)

“No, I think my sisters are worse,” Lightning said to Fang. “Have you ever tried to dodge Lumina’s projectiles while Serah is spamming time manipulation everywhere?”

Fang chuckled. “That sounds tricky, but have you ever woken up to find your entire room rigged with land mines, lasers, and enough napalm to melt a mountain?”

“Vanille did that?” Lightning asked.

“She did it twice. The second time she had a death ray pointed at my room from outside.” Fang shuddered. “That was… troublesome to deal with.” She paused. “And that is also why I will never smuggle a frog into her bed again. Apparently that was just uncalled for.”

Lightning sighed. “LIttle sisters are troublesome, aren’t they?”


Every College Fighting Game Tournament Ever:

Here are the rules:

  • Don’t argue about my rules. I own the console so what I says goes.
  • No grapplers allowed because they’re unfair.
  • You have a limit of 5 projectiles per round. 6 and you’re DQ’d. 
  • You can only use the controllers I give you. No fightsticks because that’s unfair!
  • I get to choose who gets what controller! (Hint: One of them probably is broken.)
  • We have to use the standard layout for everyone. Because button checks are too time consuming and I’m sure everyone can use standard controls equally!
  • Block button! Who doesn’t like the block button! Block button is the best thing to happen to fighting games! (Hint: He won’t tell anyone what the block button is)
  • If someone wins too many times in a row, I must challenge them to prove my dominance. (Hint: if the guy loses, he’s taking the game home.)
  • If you block too much I will DQ you.
  • I’ve arranged the tournament so that I get to play against people who’ve never played before while all the stronger contestants fight against eachother.
  • I will publicly boo you if you choose a character I don’t like.
  • We’re turning on gimmicks for the stages because who doesn’t like a little chance?
  • If you’re new to fighting games I will only give you the vaugest hints on how to play while fighting you.
  • I must be in the finals or this isn’t a real tourney.
  • In the finals, all those rules about grapplers, zoners, and stage hazards are suddenly gone. Watch me stand on the other side of the stage and spam projectiles.

corrptedsoul  asked:

If you have an opportunity to add three new characters in super smash bros, who would it be? (Also, it doesn't matter what game company they're from)

No More Heroes.
Pretty controversial character for Smash, but with a different kinds of beam katanas his moveset would be very stylish.
Instead of yelling “fuckheads!” make him shout his special attacks such as “Strawberry on a shortcake!” Kirby would love that, right?

Any Castlevania character with a whip. Items like holy water and crosses as special. Castlevania is part of Nintendo’s history so having a representative in Smash would be nice. IF Konami would allow it.
Kid Dracula would also work, he’s cute. Imagine punching that face into oblivion after 3 minutes of him spamming projectiles and transforming into a bat at the edge of the stage, rewarding, right?!

Guilty Gear.
Wild card. Many characters from Guilty Gear series would work. For the love of God don’t put Ky so we won’t have another anime swordsman in Smash.
Dizzy’s Undine & Necro would make pretty fun moves for Smash. I mean have you seen how cool they are in Xrd?!

Why Art of Fighting matters

By itself, Art of Fighting/Ryuuko no Ken introduced more things to the fighting game genre that are considered standard, or at least interesting, than almost any other series:

Supers (“super death blows”)

In AoF1’s story/arcade mode you had to unlock these moves in a bonus game, an option you only got after beating your first 2 opponents, but it was there. Once you used the move, it looked and felt significantly more powerful than your regular specials:

The Haohshokoken super projectile was so huge that it was practically unavoidable, and even if blocked it would take a noticeable chunk from the opponent’s life bar. In return, it ate up practically all of your power bar.

And since you had to perform the motion correctly a few times to be able to unlock it, a few playthroughs let you figure out if it was within your reach, or if boosting your life or general power was a better use of your early bonus game attempts.

Some games give you a choice of supers, but not many let you pick “none of the above” and let you boost something else in exchange.
Speaking of something you can boost…

Power bars (“spirit bars”)

Under the characters’ life bars you’d have another bar that would affect the moves available to you - this may be standard nowadays, but it wasn’t always so.The extra bar affected AoF more than it does most modern game, in that it wasn’t just for supers but was also consumed by the use of specials, which meant these had to be used carefully to make it count - a notion that appears to have been entirely dismissed during the past decade, where physics-defying attacks that do block damage in exchange for commands unguessable by beginners are treated like a part of the game that’s taken for granted by everyone else.
In AoF, if you lack the power bar to use a special, it will either came out in a very weakened state or not at all, which means no fireball spamming for applicable characters, since that’s not sustainable over time (also, regular attacks can destroy projectiles if timed right). You’re better off mastering your basics, and leaving the specials for actual special occasions when their particular properties are an actual advantage. The bonus game that let you boost the bar consists on trying to chop off the top of a bunch of beer bottles, like Mr Miyagi in Karate Kid, further illustrating how unusual the abilities it powers are supposed to be and the focus they’re meant to require:

The bar starts out full each round, and slowly refills itself over time. It’s spent by using specials and supers, and by being taunted by the opponent. You can refill it manually with a charging command, and you can increase the bar’s maximum size in one of the bonus games.
This bar is the heart of the series’ gameplay, and its effect on the use of specials to prevent over-reliance on some moves is something I’d like to see more often - instead of a standard “1 level of power bar = 1 super”, using different smaller fractions of a level of bar to pay for the use of some moves, and tweaking those values over time with patches if needed is something I could get behind.

(Relevant) Taunting

As mentioned above, these were used to drop an opponent’s power bar - to break their concentration, so to speak. Doing so at the right time could not only be the difference between an opponent being able to threaten you with a move that could counter your tactics, it could also annoy him in general - other series would mostly stick to the 2nd use in their own implementations (meaning it’s practically never used in an actual fight in those), but it was nice to have the option of the 1st one.

It was also a nice way to provide a bit of characterization to characters outside stuff like victory poses, endings, stages and limited dialogue, which were among the very few sources of lore in the genre back in the day. Dan Hibiki’s reputation exists because of this.

“Super supers” (“desperation move”)

They could have settled for inventing supers and be pleased with themselves, but then that would just be an maximum power special. SNK didn’t settle for that.

AoF was a fighting game, but it was also a story, and a story could always use a few dramatic moments. Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat with a desperate special attack that only works when your life is really low and consumes all the power bar you should have probably used to avoid reaching that point sounded dramatic enough to them. The Haohshokoken, however, was a projectile you first use in the controlled environment of a dojo against a distant and stationary target before you get to use it on opponents - it’s nice to have, but had its limits as a dramatic battle event, so an entirely different move was made for the occasion: a dash into just about every regular move the character had unleashed at an incredible speed - the Ryuuko Ranbu.

In later games of the series different characters would have other very different moves for the same circumstances. In AoF3 beating a character with this move or its character-equivalent would decide the fight - the Ultimate KO feature, meaning if you won a fight using it in round 1 there would be no round 2, since the move was meant to be so overwhelming - this particular feature never returned in any games I’m aware of, which is understandable - it destroys the possibility of a comeback off a match that must have been pretty close, but it was interesting that they decided to try it anyway… something perhaps best left for single-player games, but nowadays most story modes in the genre only make you fight 1 round per character anyway (the MK9 fails at this and many other things in its story mode, despite all the praise rained on it).

It was also a nice way to make use of the game’s zoom feature, if you started the move some distance away, as it would proceed into a nice view of the aggressor and victim’s pretty huge sprites, so speaking of which…


Back when fighting games were strictly in 2D there was a bit of a conflict between graphical detail and functionality, especially when projectiles and other aspects involving distance were involved - enough space to move freely and the sprites can’t be too big, make them too big and you’re practically fighting in a phonebooth.
SNK was all like “why not both?”, and made huge incredibly detailed sprites, detailed enough to see bruises on the characters’ faces if they were hit hard and often enough, and used their hardware’s abilities to just zoom everything out if the characters moved away from each other.
It did the trick nicely before 3D brought concerns like camera angles to the genre, and even if AoF’s implementation wasn’t the best, it paved the ground for that and other games that followed, both from its own company as well as the competition’s - this applies to a lot of what this game did, really.

Projectile abuse prevention

I already mentioned the power bar limiting the overuse of projectiles, but it can’t be overstated that SNK’s finest efforts always had some way to prevent projectile-based characters from dominating: Fatal Fury had the place shift system, in Samurai Shodown most projectiles required the use of weapons (which could be lost) and some projectiles could be cut with weapons mid-flight, King of Fighters had dodges and rolls, and SvC Chaos failed in part because it had neither, like the competition it tried to do justice to.
Like I said, the power bar meant if you tried projectile spamming your way through a match, you’d soon run out of power to do so. Additionally, projectiles could be destroyed with a properly timed attack like a regular jab, long before parrying came along in SF3.
Beginner Ryus would find themselves in need of learning their basic moves under this game’s rules.

A balance between action and story

The NeoGeo was both an arcade and home console system, so it had to walk a fine line to cater to both environments - while the arcade focuses on the action, with its owner preferring to see players spend their time trying not to lose so they’ll spend more money, the home environment allows for a more contemplative attitude, which is why narrative-heavy genres like RPGs thrive in it.

AoF took on the challenge, even if it meant going for a classic plot device:

But that was just the part that was visible in-game:

Within that limited frame, SNK did a fair amount with the genre for its time:

  • It told you the plot in the opening
  • Mentioned South Town in that opening, connecting it to Fatal Fury
  • Added dialogue before each fight, providing a little world-building from that dialogue, the information you extracted from defeated opponents and the protagonists’ musings as they traveled between them
  • Included that infamous ex-secret of King’s which still echoes into KoF XIII
  • Left a cliffhanger in the ending for the following game.

And in that following game, Art of Fighting 2:

  • South Town was given an even bigger map that included the old one
  • Every character had dialogue against every other character, with body language to match that was only ever used in those scenes
  • Ultimately it was revealed that the game took place a decade before Fatal Fury by showing us a young Geese while he was still working for the police, hinting at an off-screen story of his own - not to mention you could see his men in suits spying from corners in just about every stage in the game.

Lots of information with minimal interruption in the action.

AoF may not be the best or most fluid fighting game out there, but without it the genre would be a whole lot poorer.
Nowadays it seems unlikely that its principles will be taken out for a new spin, but I’ll always welcome new chapters on how Ryo Sakazaki is following his father’s legacy, and in general how the tale of South Town has more to do with Sakazakis and Howards than it does with Bogards.

  • Me losing in For Glory: The only reason you won is because you used a boring, repetitive strategy and if Sakurai knew how to balance this game then you would be awful at it and I would handily beat you because I fight using a continuously complex, changing series of moves suitable for the situation instead of exploiting a clear flaw and spamming two moves. You are so systematic as to be boring, yet my fighting style would dazzle audiences. Honestly the "anti-spam" mechanic needs to be increased tenfold to dissuade players like you from even venturing in For Glory and ruining my afternoon with your exploitative combat style. I hate you I quit I'm done this is a terrible, awfully made game.
  • Me winning in For Glory (using some cheapass move-spamming strategy): git gud

Last night I was playing smash online and I encountered one of those Link spammers, y’know the guys who only play as Dark Link or Fierce Deity Link and spam projectiles and only taunt when you get knocked out? Those jerks. Anyway

I lost the first round as Villager so I switched to Pit and to my surprise I proceeded to completely demolish the guy. I know that sounds braggy but I’m still not very good at Smash Bros and I have a lot of trouble against people with really aggressive play styles, and Link Spammers tend to give me a hard time

They disconnected immediately after and I was so proud of myself. I’m gettin better