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Essential Goth/post punk/alternative bands
Hello weirdos! A lot of folks seem to be a little lost when first setting foot into the goth subculture and don’t know where to go for band recommendations. Here’s a list of important, influential bands that contributed to the goth subculture - along with several favs - I put together with Dean (angry punk pictured above).
In order to avoid classification issues, they’re categorized by sound rather than specific genre. Keep in mind that this list is personal, and most importantly, ever growing! If you would like to add a band, submit your recommendations to the list here. I would love to have your contributions. So, here we go:
Sounds dead or undead:
Bauhaus (1978-2008) “Bela Lugosi’s Dead” is a national anthem. Lead singer Peter Murphy has really pointy cheek bones.
Peter Murphy (1983-present) his solo work, not as angular as his facial features.
Love and Rockets (1985-present) Peter Murphy got stuck hanging upside down on stage and the Bauhaus members formed a band without him.
Joy Division (1976-1980) Ian Curtis was an energetic dancer, to say the least. “Love Will Tear Us Apart” and “Transmission” are famous songs.
The Sisters of Mercy (1980-present) Andrew Eldritch is not goth, he swears.
The Cure (1976-present) lead singer Robert Smith is a giant cat with red lipstick. He cries on stage and his tears cure cancer.
Cocteau Twins (1979-1997)
Sex Gang Children (1991-present)
Wire (1976-1980) seriously underrated. Would recommend the album “Pink Flag”.
Lydia Lunch amazing female singer. Try the album “13.13”.
Clan of Xymox (1983-present) are you kidding no one’s voice is this deep.
The Chameleons (1981-2003) has the ability to sound woeful yet jolly.
The Mission (1986-present) “Into the Blue” is a good start.
Depeche Mode (1980-present) dark and gloomy synths. Known for “Personal Jesus”, “Enjoy the Silence”, “Never let Me Down Again” and a billion others.
Fields of the Nephilim (1984-present) vocalist Carl McCoy is a desert cowboy.
The March Violets (1981-present) listen to “The Botanic Verses”.
The Bolshoi (1983-1988) start with the album “Friends”.
The Danse Society (1980-present) try the album “Heaven is Waiting”.
The Southern Death Cult (1981-1983) has a song called “Fatman”. Ian Astbury teamed up with Billy Duffy from Theatre of Hate to create Death Cult which later became The Cult, another band worth checking out.
Play Dead (1981-1985) doesn’t like being called goth. Musicians that don’t like being labeled? Unheard of.
Corpus Delicti (1993-1998) name means “body of crime”. Just saying.
Nosferatu (1988-present) actual vampires making music.
Big Electric Cat
Mephisto Walz (1985-present)
The Wake pretty sure Eldritch’s cousin is in the video “Christine”.
Echo & the Bunnymen (1978-present) known for “The Killing Moon” which you might remember from the movie Donnie Darko.
The Jesus & Mary Chain (1983-present) known for “Just Like Honey”.
Children on Stun (1991-present) would recommend the song “Whiskey a Go-Go”, you’ll be…*lowers sun glasses* stunned.
Dead Can Dance (1981-present)
And Also the Trees (1979-present) the dictionary definition of “dark and brooding”.
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry (1981-present)
Magazine (1977-2011) listen to the album “Real Life”.
Concrete Blonde (1986-present)
Gene Loves Jezebel (1980-present)
Tones on Tail (1982-1984) Daniel Ash’s (Bauhaus) illegitimate child side project.
Curve (1990-2005) Toni Haliday’s seductive alto voice against a backdrop of layered guitars and drum loops; fans of Curve generally regard Garbage as having stole their shtick and made it pop-friendly.
Bella Morte (1996-present)
Leæther Strip (1988-present) with forays into industrial/ebm; Highly Recommend “Serenade For The Dead” and “Self-Inflicted”.
Love Like Blood (1989-2011) the Sisters of Mercy and Type O Negative’s German child.
The Merry Thoughts (1983-1998) another German band that sounds like the Sisters of Mercy.
A Pale Horse Named Death (2011-present) another Type O Negative offshoot, this band has the original drummer on vocals and their drummer on drums. Very dark and devoid of Type O’s black humor, but still a great listen.
The Cruxshadows (1992-present) an alternative musical start for many. The important thing: spiky hair.
Deathrockers and undead punks:
Christian Death (1979-present) founded by Rozz Williams, but faced several line up issues (a second Christian Death featured Valor Kand rather than Rozz Williams). Known for “Romeo’s Distress”. Start with “Only Theatre of Pain” then “Catastrophe Ballet”.
Specimen (1980-present) features the cofounder of the Batcave. Best known for “Kiss Kiss Bang Bang” and Johnny Slut being awesome.
Cinema Strange (1994-present) listen to the album of the same name. Known for their acts on stage.
The Deadfly Ensemble similar in feel to Cinema Strange with the same “story telling” aspect.
Voodoo Church (1982-present)
Misfits (1977-present) 1950s horror told by crazy guys with guitars and muscles. Personal favorite album: “Static Age”. Singer Glenn Danzig went on to create Danzig. Also make your day better by listening to the “Monster Mash” cover.
The Cramps (1976-2009) originators of “psychobilly”. Highly original and sleazy with class.
Alien Sex Fiend (1982-present) husband and wife that sound like legit extra-terrestrials. Proof that there is no such thing as taking yourself seriously.
The Damned (1976-present) lead singer, Dave Vanian, is a vampire.
Blood and Roses underrated. Listen to “Your Sin is Your Salvation”.
The Birthday Party (1977-1983) pretty jazzy. Nick Cave, vocalist, likes to wear suits and release bats from caves.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds (1984-present) this guys is so interesting he is set apart from the Bad Seeds and he has a movie.
Virgin Prunes (1977-1986) known for “Baby Turns Blue”.
The Psychedelic Furs (1977-present) remember the movie “Pretty in Pink”? Well there. Try the album “Psychedelic Furs”!
Anorexic Dread (1983-1985) short lived but worth knowing.
Flesh for Lulu (1982-present)
UK Decay (1978-present)
Lene Lovich “I Think We’re Alone Now”
Skeletal Family (1982-present)
Klaus Nomi (1977-1983) the late artist sounded like he looked: surprised and hauntingly original.
The Morgans (mid 1990s-1996) try “Half Girl Half Jesus”.
Xmal Deutschland (1980-1990)
Angry about something:
Siouxsie and the Banshees (1976-2002) pronounced “Suzy”. I know you know, but I didn’t at first. “Spellbound, “Happy House”, “Cities in Dust”, plenty to listen to. And, Siouxsie Sioux rocks.
Killing Joke (1978-present) where do I begin? Do I begin at all? You know what, it doesn’t matter if you skip this entire list and just listen to this one band. I’ll spare you the essay and recommend the album of the same name, “Laugh? I nearly bought one!”, “Democracy”, “Extremities, Dirt and Various Repressed Emotions” and “Pandemonium”. More than the sound are the lyrics, the members and the message.
1919 (1980-present) underrated to the extreme. Similar to Killing Joke in sound and vibe.
Nina Hagen (1971-present) she’s wicked cool, in sound and style. And also she’s German.
Type O Negative (1990-2010) American metal band with widely respected singer/bassist, the late Peter Steele.
45 Grave (1979-present)
The Stranglers (1974-present)
New Model Army (1980-present)
Public Image Limited aka PIL (1978-present) John Lydon’s [aka Jonny Rotten of Sex Pistols] post-punk band that created gems like “The Order of Death” and “Rise”.
Life of Agony (1989-present) Alternative metal band from Brooklyn. Had Type O Negative’s original drummer after he left. Slightly thrashy, but sludgy and dark as well.
Witchy, “psycho-delic” or heavily historical:
Switchblade Symphony (1989-1999) would recommend the album “Serpentine Gallery”.
Strawberry Switchblade (1981-1985) listen to earlier works.
Faith and the Muse (1993-present)
Soap & Skin (2008-present)
The Velvet Underground & Nico the album is known for the songs “Venus in Furs” and “All Tomorrow’s Parties”. Check out Nico, another wicked German artist.
Chelsea Wolf (2009-present)
Stevie Nicks (1981-present)
The Legendary Pink Dots (1980-present)
Black Tape for a Blue Girl (1986-present)
Sopor Aeternus & the Ensemble of Shadows (1989-present) taken straight from the Grim Reaper’s playlist.
Inkubus Sukkubus (1989-present) check out “Call Out My Name,” “Vampyra,” and “Belladonna And Aconite.”
Rasputina (1992-present) historical influences with a storytelling twist.
Emilie Autumn somewhat controversial with fans, but excellent violinist.
Discombobulated former construction workers:
Skinny Puppy (1982-present) très important industrial band.
OhGr by Nivek Ogre of Skinny Puppy. ReCcoMeNd tHe AlbUm “wELt”?
Einsturzende Neubauten (1980-present) post Throbbing Gristle -PS try them out as well- industrial.
Ministry (1981-present) famous for “Every Day is Halloween”. Recommend earlier work and the album “Twitch”. Their newer albums are more metal oriented.
KMFDM (1984-present) perverse, angry and awesome.
Front Line Assembly (1986-present)
Thrill Kill Kult (1987-present)
Nitzer Ebb (1982-present) English guy shouts over drum machines.
Front 242 (1981-present) Belgian guy kinda sings over drum machines.
Nine Inch Nails (1988-present) American guy screams over drum machines [early NIN], sings over distorted synths and guitars [later NIN].
Everything off of the Wax Trax! label circa 1990
Presumably angry punks:
Dead Kennedys (1978-1986) featured living people and some unforgettable tunes, notably from the album “Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables”.
Sex Pistols (1975-2008) So punk, much anarchy.
Bad Brains (1977-present) a mix of punk and reggae, a genre within itself that redefined the scene.
Black Flag (1976-present)
Minor Threat (1980-1983) accidentally slipped and gave birth to straight edgers.
Fugazi (1987-2002) with vocalist Ian MacKaye from Minor Threat.
Adolescents (1980-present) pfff, these guys are totally adults.
The Clash (1976-1985) “London Calling” is trying to reach you.
Joan Jett a fine lady that doesn’t give an inkling of care about her unfavorable reputation.
X-Ray Spex (1976-present) featuring the ever so awesome and PVC’s opposite, Poly Styrene.
Bad Religion (1979-present) - note: skip “Into The Unknown”, everything else is golden
Halloween Town escapees:
Voltaire evil top hat wearer that was featured in an episode of Billy and Mandy’s Grim Adventures.
Creature Feature did you know? Edward Gorey and Danny Elfman had kids.
Nox Arcana creepy soundtrack for your life…or afterlife.
More freaky people:
Tom Waits (1949-present) the essence of a Western.
David Bowie (1964-present) commonly referred to as “God”.
Leonard Cohen (1967-present) he’s Canadian.
John Cale (1965-present)
Culture Club (1982-1986) just, Boy George.
Nico former Velvet Underground member, German ex-model singing songs titled things like “Janitor of Lunacy” off-key.
The Smiths (1982-1987) Morrissey is like the Charlie Brown of British pop music: he’ll never win, and therefore is One Of Us.
POCs in Goth/post punk/alternative bands masterpost
Here’s a list of bands featuring members of color. Most are influential, others new discoveries or future freak gods. Thanks to research and helpful readers, here’s a bit of sick sound suitable for all taste buds:
Goth, dark or industrial:
Creature Feature - Erik X is an evil composer and organ player with a special gift for raising the dead.
Plastique Noir -the Brazilian band that made the song “Empty Streets” that’s just too dark to handle.
O. Children - contrary to popular belief, Tobi O’Kandi is not, in fact, a black reincarnation of Ian Curtis.
Thrill Kill Kult - sick industrial band with several poc members.
Android Lust - Shikhee is Bangladeshi, and she makes some of the best industrial music ever heard.
She Past Away
Malice Mizer and Moi Dix Mois
Corrupted - awesome japanese doom/sludge band that are considered super influential in the scene.
Light Asylum - heavy dark synth primarily. It’s really fun and the front singer HAS A MIGHTY POWER.
Punk, hardcore or post-hardcore:
Bad Brains - why most of the bands on this list even exist.
Death - not to be confused with the metal band of the same way. Not that you could confuse the members in any way.
Rough Francis - founded by the sons of David Hackney of Death.
Pure Hell - afropunk taken literally.
X-Ray Spex - Poly Styrene was the energy and feel of the band. Actually, she was just energy and feel period. Fun fact: she was also bipolar.
Radkey - Rad.
TMGE - Japanese band named “Thee Michelle Gun Elephant” or as they prefer: JAPANESE BAND NAMED “THEE MICHELLE GUN ELEPHANT”.
Tamar Kali - powerful musician, especially known for “Boot”.
The Objex - Feloney Melony’s got a wicked hawk and voice.
Stiffed - Santi White now performs solo as Santigold.
Midori - great jazz-punk fusion band.
Le Butcherettes - Mexican garage punk band.
Atari Teenage Riot
Dev Hynes - a British musician who started out in a punk band Test Icicles then went solo as a folk/indie musician as Lightspeed Champion and now is doing an electronic/R&B thing as Blood Orange.
L’Arc-en-Ciel - Okay, so these guys are Japan’s other most famous export. These guys got known outside of japan for doing some major anime theme songs (Fullmetal Alchemist, Gundam 00, NANA live action movie, etc) and were the first Japanese act to headline Madison Square Garden (Japanese rock bands really like New York for some reason). Their bassist tetsuya (formally known as tetsu) gets bonus points for being one of Japan’s only out LGBT celebrities (he’s Bi).
Gogol Bordello - self described as “gypsy punk”. Singer Eugene Hütz is Russian-Ukranian with Romani heritage and born with a ‘stache. Nearly crazier than Little Big and Korpiklaani combined.
The Bots - punk duo made of two brothers.
Bow Wow Wow - IIIIIII Waaaant Caaandy!!!
Love Equals Death
Ritualization - blackened death metal from Orléans, France
Martin Sorrondeguy - spoke out about US based Latino issues in many of his lyrics and was involved in bands Los Crudos, Limp Wrist and Needles.
Metal, funk/rap/reggae metal fusion or core:
Blasphemy - Black metal, the biggest irony on earth as Caller of the Storms remains one of the rare black musicians within the genre.
Babymetal - this Japanese trio is more metal than a viking woman on her period in the middle of a battlefield drinking the blood of her enemies to the sound of Immortal…for some at least.
Wicked Wisdom - Will Smith’s wife get a band?? Yes she Will.
Unlocking the Truth - these 13 year olds played in the streets of NYC before they opened for Living Colour.
Absolace - amazing metal from Dubai.
Living Colour - better than Dead Monochrome.
King’s X - more hard rock, but hey.
Bionic Jive - one of the better hip-hop/metal fusions.
Skindred - check out the album “Roots Rock Riot”.
Ego Fall - a Chinese folk metal band and also Corbac’s fave. Mixing tradition with heavier sounds.
Static X - Japanese guitarist Koichi Fukuda & Mexican-American bassist Tony Campos.
Sepultura - the founding members are all Brazilian, currently their lead singer (Derrick Green) is black. “Arise” is a massive album of pure metal awesomeness.
Straight Line Stitch
Blood Stain Child
Tenger Cavalry - a folk metal band based out of Bejing who describe their style as “Mongolian folk metal”. Like this and you’d probably enjoy Ego Fall.
Cthonic - Taiwanese metal band who’s lead singer is also the president for the Taiwanese branch of Amnesty International.Most of their music deals with their goal of an independent Taiwan and they’re really REALLY great.
Invasion - a stoner/psych-metal band fronted by a valkyrie space wizard out of London.
Vodun - like invasion, marries punk, psychedelic, and doom metal influenced instrumentals with soul influenced vocals to create a unique and original takes on doom metal.
Animals as Leaders - most suggested band on this list and for good reason.
Veil of Maya
Body Count - Ice T’s metal band rules. It would be a little tastier with ice cubes though.
Hirax - pioneering thrash/speed metal band (with hardcore influences). Katon De Pena is one of the most distinctive vocalists of the then-burgeoning California metal scene. Though they never achieved the success of some of their contemporaries like Metallica or Slayer, they have long been an insiders’ favorite and cited as an influence by bands ranging from Napalm Death to Cannibal Corpse to Darkthrone.
Melechesh - an Assyrian black metal band originating from Jerusalem whose lyrical themes include Mesopotamian mythology and occultism.
Iron Man - American doom metal band with PoC members.
Sex Machineguns - Japanese speed metal band.
Hibria - Brazilian power metal band.
Metallica - their first lead guitarist was Lloyd Grant. Here he is in their first recording.
Gevolt - Yiddish band from Israel.
The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza
X Japan - Probably Japan’s most famous metal export. These guys are the reason Visual Kei (basically Japan’s gothic metal scene) exists. All those flashy JRock bands wouldn’t exist without X Japan. They also recently just played a huge show at Madison Square Garden.
Maximum the Hormone - Also known as “the guys that did that weird opening and ending to death note”, MTH do a fantastic combination of metal, punk, and even pop. The best part about MTH is that their lyrics don’t make sense even when translated so you can just have mindless fun listening to them even if you understand Japanese.
Suffocation - one of the most influential death metal acts of all time. Terrance Hobbs’ incredible mastery of the guitar allowed the band to blend complex technicality into the genre without sacrificing raw brutality.
Versailles Philharmonic Quintet
The Crimson Armada
Heaven in Her Arms
Here comes the Kraken
System of a Down
Fear Nuttin Band
Year of the Dragon - founder was a member of Fishbone.
Dir En Grey
Flagitious Idiosyncrasy in Dilapidation (FID) - Formed in Tokyo. Rad ladies playing some super hard grindcore.
Sarcofago - Brazilian band
Acrassicauda - Iraqi heavy metal. There is a film called “Heavy Metal in Baghdad”, about the band. Another documentary called Global Metal, which is by the same director as Heavy Metal: A Headbanger’s Journey, is highly recommended.
Sigh - one of the first japanese black mack metal bands led by a fierce lady.
Sabbat - Japanese black/thrash.
Blood Stain Child - rather epic sounding Japanese metal band with contrasting vocals and instrumentals.
Gallhammer - female Japanese extreme metal band of doom. The wickedest chicks, definitely recommend.
Avulsed - Spanish death metal band.
Necramynth - Korean black metal.
Crossfaith - japanese metalcore.
As they Burn - deathcore band from Paris, France.
Wolves and Jackals - blackened thrash/death metal from Atlanta, GA.
Infernal Revulsion - brutal death metal from Tokyo, Japan
Orange Sky - from Trinidad and Tobago.
Monuments - it’s got saxophone and it’s awesome.
Peelander-Z - watch the videos, you’ll be happy you did.
For Today - if you’re into Christian metal.
Dream Theater - John Myung plays in the influential prog metal band with the aid of his majestic hair.
Alternative or too cool to label:
Bat for Lashes - Natasha Khan’s songs are ethereal.
Skunk Anansie - Skin is a fierce woman with a fierce voice. Also, her eyes will pierce through your soul.
Dub War - often likened to Skindred. Not because the singer has dreads or anything. Or because it’s the same guy.
The Slack Republic - fairly new (2005), looking forward to more.
Pierce the Veil - they’re really more “Punk Pop” than anything else. All members are Mexican.
Coheed and Cambria
Alice in Chains
Boris - japanese experimental metal band highly influential in the doom, stoner, noise rock scene.
Bleed the Pigs - great band with a singer who has an awesome colorful fro.
Jimi Hendrix - duh.
Asian Dub Foundation
BIS (Brand-New Idol Society) - considered “alternative Japanese idols”, and have done some amazing things including recruiting a new member who was rumored to be a high school girl and turned out to be Junko Koshino, a famous fashion designer who is 74 yrs old. Their song + video for MURA-MURA is excellent.
Go Betty Go - chicano rock, “pop punk”. Several of their songs are in Spanish.
Melt-Banana - Japanese noise rock band.
Rage Against the Machine
TV on the Radio
Bloc Party - singer is gay and black.
The Go! Team
The English Beat
One Ok Rock
ELLEGARDEN - JAPAN’S BEST 90s/EARLY 2000s POP PUNK ROCK EXPORT I’M NOT EVEN KIDDING. Part of what contributes to this is Takeshi Hosomi (singer/rhythm guitarist) writing ¾ of the band’s discography in perfect english. Unfortunately they went on hiatus in 2006, but that spawned two more fantastic bands: Takeshi does experimental progressive indie in the HIATUS (its the same guy I swear), and guitarist Shinichi Ubukata formedNothing’s Carved In Stone which is basically a Japanese alt. rock supergroup.
Nothing’s Carved in Stone
Shonen Knife - you can’t talk about japanese girl rock without the literal originators of the movement/popularity. Because Kurt Cobain said he listened them, a HUGE surge of all girl bands started popping up over Japan.
The Pillows - alt rock band from Hokkaido.
Set it Off
Shiva En Exil
Guns N’ Roses - Slash.
(Hed) PE - (or Planet Earth) original sound described as “G-Punk”, a fusion of punk rock and gangsta rap.
She Wants Revenge
Skip the Use - with influence from various genres and a black lead.
Elsiane - Formed in Montreal. Fronted by Elsieanne Caplette. Trip-hop/downtempo.
Fall Out Boy’s bassist Pete Wentz English/German and Afro-Jamaican.
Sonic Boom Six
Cibo Matto - real cool duo.
Wormrot - grindcore from Singapour.
Toe - post rock from Japan.
Guitar Wolf - “Jet Rock n’ roll”.
The Coup - Yesssss.
Street Sweeper Social Club
Merchant Ships - post hardcore.
The Skints - reggae/dub/punk fusion.
White Town - bzangy deserves WAY more recognition! You’ve probably already heard “I Could Never be Your Woman.”
The Mars Volta
Drill Queen - Born Depressed is just the greatest song.
Death Grips - experimental rap.
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I was just sitting down to make a general post about presentations, so this seems convenient and I’ll do it here.
Generally speaking there are lots of ways to give a good presentation, and there’s an element to this that’s a matter of taste and style, so that’s my disclaimer.
The biggest thing for me, and the thing I think people fail to realize the most, is that, as an audience member, I can either read what’s on your slide or I can listen to what you’re saying. I can’t do both. So don’t load up your slides with text and/or a ton of complex figures. I will get lost trying to parse your slide and not listen to what you’re saying and then fail to understand anything, and then get frustrated, and then get bored and check out.
Slides should be visual aids, not the meat of the talk. Making good slides is mostly figuring out what you absolutely need to show or reinforce and scraping everything else. Everything else you should just say, out loud, because you’re giving a presentation not writing a book in the form of a .ppt.
Now, how does one make good slides? Again, please calibrate this for personal taste and specific data requirements, but I air of the side of as little text as possible, and as few figures as possible per slide (you can have lots and lots of slides, but I’d rather have or two figures per slide than four).
Here’s the thing about making slides: your computer screen has much higher resolution than literally any projector ever, so only putting like one graph on a slide makes it feel really empty, but trust me, when you put that fucker up on a projector in a room that probably still have the lights on and then you also start talking about it, it’s enough. Especially if it’s a busy graph with more than two data sets being presented.
Also, ratchet the font size up on all your graphs, because i cannot read 12 point font on your shitty overhead projector from 15-20 feet away. I just cannot. I am not spider man with the old super spider vision.
Also also, there is an 85% chance that I can’t tell your fancy color scheme apart if it’s not like, just red, blue, and green, and i’m not even color blind (and you should also generally speaking make colored figures color blind accessible so as not to be an asshole to the 10% of the population for which red doesn’t exist)
subpoint: i don’t actually know how red-green colorblindness works and i don’t feel like looking it up, so just go with it guys
you can have multiple graphs on each slide of course, but they should be directly related - anything that can be split up and still understood should be
AND paper figures are almost never good presentation figures because they’re too busy. when i’m reading a paper i can spend ten minutes parsing your figure, but i can’t do that during a talk
this is ofc just for primary data slides. go hog wild on your background slides and put a shit ton of stuff on them if you want
Another mistake a lot of people make is putting way too much text on their slides. Really, you should hardly have any text on them at all, because, again, i cannot read and listen at the same time. So, you ask, what text should I have on my slides? Thanks for asking. Text on slides, in my humble opinion, should be limited to:
a descriptive title for the slide - tell me the take away point for the slide - what should I remember?
this also sets me up for the data/figure your showing, so I know what to look for
and it tells me what I should be listening for for the next bit
this should be results/message focused, not experiment focused
any experimental conditions that put the data into context
so conditions that I need to know to fully understand the data/judge the data’s worth
only essential stuff though - i don’t need to know everything, just the conditions that are important to making your point
everything else you should just say out loud
say it twice if it’s really important
use your words to explain your data/reiterate your point/explain your reasoning
if you find yourself using complete sentences on your slides you have too much text. if your bullet points look like the ones above where i’ve said many many things, you have too much text. Note that equations and numbers derived from the data don’t count as text here - they are data in this paradigm.
So now you’ve made some kick ass slides you’re all set, right? Wrong. You now need to focus on the most important part of the presentation - what the fuck you’re going to say.
Birthday - EF Rajiv Laffey .. on September the 3rd of the year 2017 and may we all wish him the very best ever .. love
And so the attempt to invite and in sense incite the Ef to write a BLOG for me failed .. it is of no regret and certainly one that cannot be implemented by any force of imagination ..
But those pictures were of podium shared with the VVIP’s of the State ; the Chief Minister , the Leader of Shiv Sena Shri Uddhav Thakeray and several others that are working so diligently and effectively in the Swachh Bharat Campaign, making it more user friendly in a sense .. getting to understand that garbage should not be sent off to garbage dumps, but become a value instead .. converting it in residence into compost and making use of it as manure for the gardens and plants ..
AND when you have these dignitaries speaking glowingly about you at a public platform it does become a very embarrassed moment .. one where it is difficult to shout out to them to STOP, or .. be in possession of that ‘don’t know where to look’ smile and get away from it all !!!
That was what the entire first half of the picture competition was at yesterday’s LOST & Forgotten blogpost !!
The second half was symbolic .. the dark clouds were a reflection of the mood .. the mood when you miss out on something that you possess, in great regard, and suddenly it slips away unannounced .. !!
There were some very interesting inputs on this .. but for them to be made content on the Blog, would not have very prudent ..
And so another day has ended .. and another begun .. in peace and harmony and a gentle calm to be able to look at the other side of the AAARRRGGHHH … lost post last night .. !!
So to begin with ..
.. a gentle smile as I prepare to off load a number of pertinent lines in praise of the product I endorse and be the Ambassador of .. these are differently practised elements in the course of the day work .. one that involves the switching off of one plant and initiating another .. the power plant that steals signals from the ‘i dunno where’ and brings it on for the camera, watched assessed, conferenced over, and scrutinised by that ‘chaukadi’, चौकड़ी who sit grim faced in front of monitor screens and pass judgement in the finalised outcome … DARE YOU ARGUE OR DISAGREE WITH THEM .. they be the cat’s whiskers !!
There are those moments then, when as the next camera positioning is being set, to trundle along to the other side and perform stationary acts that give credence to the product on sale :
acts in front of still cameras with a million people looking on to justify the correct facial expressions and hand positioning .. vital to say the least .. I mean an error could affect the entire campaign ..
And several of them in different modes of combat ..
…. and by then the shot for camera in motion is set and you return to perform in voice and movement ..
idling time for all to be in preparation .. and to start all over again .. measuring focus distances selfi wise too ..
जितनी भरमारी , जितनी लोढ़ आजकल के समाज में उत्पन्न हुई है , content को लेकर , शायद इससे पहले कभी ना हुई हो ।। समाचार चित्रों ख़बरों की प्यासी ये दुनिया , तरसती है की कुछ मिले देखने पढ़ने को ।। और फिर ये तो निशित हो जाता है की क्या, कहाँ, कैसे, उसे प्रस्तुत करना चाहिए ।।
Content is KING , was a phrase I had heard many moons ago, and now find its relevance even more .. this generation that has little time span graph, needs immediate and massive material instantly .. all modes of presentation therefore need to be designed accordingly .. and that be the motive of all creative process today .. some succeed, most do not .. but all know the reason why ..
AND THE biggest and the largest confirmation for the execution of such is NOTICE .. if there be no notice be doomed .. it matters not how it is noticed, but notice it must be ..
SO .. when the attitude and desire is small and facing insignificance .. the methodology is the oft repeated one .. get onto the shoulders of them that are visible .. and there you are .. !!
Not a very difficult philosophy to discard .. it works all the time .. in life in society at work at the turnstiles .. everywhere .. !! we are blessed that we are alive to witness this great change that occurs each hour in this part of the world .. I am certain it occurs more often elsewhere too ..
“ काश ऐसी भी हवा चले कौन किसका है पता (तो ) चले ” ~
from my dearest Ef and their thoughts .. so beautiful and prosaic .. !!
if you're still doing the kiss prompt thingy please can you do 16? i love your writing😊
when one person’s face is scrunched up, and the other one kisses their lips/nose/forehead
Aaron watched as Robert let out another frustrated sigh, his forehead screwed up as he glared at his laptop, clearly annoyed by whatever was on his screen. He’d been working on a major presentation for Home James for weeks now, and if you asked Aaron, it was perfect - it was brilliantly designed, because Robert was good at photoshop and powerpoint and all that faff (he was the one who made up every single presentation or business plan they had to make for the scrapyard) but Robert was convinced it was terrible, and so it was his fifth evening in a row sitting hunched over the kitchen table, refusing to give himself any time to relax.
Aaron eased himself up off their sofa, padding across the house in his socks. It was the depths of winter, and Aaron had never been more grateful for Robert’s insistence on triple glazed windows and underfloor heating in the kitchen, and god knows what else, purely because the house was so cosy and warm, despite the storm brewing outside.
Flicking on the kettle, Aaron busying himself making them both a cup of tea, heaping an extra spoon of sugar into Robert’s, knowing his husband’s sweet tooth was the easiest way to put a smile on his face.
A sugary tea would have to do in the absence of any biscuits, they’d not done a proper shop that week yet.
Easing one of the kitchen chairs out from under the table with his foot, Aaron set Robert’s cup of tea down next to his laptop, carefully moving a pile of papers out of his way before he put his own down.
Robert mumbled a thank out, his brow still furrowed and his focus on his laptop screen, and Aaron couldn’t help himself - Robert looked so wound up, and stressed, and Aaron just wanted to kiss it all away, so he did, leaning forward on his elbows and pressing a kiss to Robert’s furrowed brow.
Robert didn’t react, so Aaron did it again, trailing sloppy kisses down Robert’s cheek, across his jawline, finishing with one on the tip of his husband’s nose, the gesture finally breaking Robert’s serious expression, his husband bursting into the first genuine laughter Aaron had heard from him in days.
“It’s perfect,” Aaron reassured, nudging Robert’s laptop out of the way slightly so he could bring himself closer, settling his socked feet on the edge of Robert’s chair. “But if it’ll make you feel better, go through it all again with me. Yeah?”
Robert gave him a grateful smile, flicking the presentation to full screen mode. “You’re the best, you know that?”
Aaron grinned, leaning in to press one more kiss to the side of Robert’s head. “I know, and you’d better be taking me on a proper holiday after you land this deal tomorrow.”
Birthday - EF - Anjana Sridhar Tue, July 25 .. happy birthday to Anjana .. with all the love of the Ef .. and more ..
The rain it pours relentlessly .. strong winds and lashings of rain .. the lakes the most crucial in the supply of water to the metropolis called Mumbai, are near overflowing and when they do there is a sense of celebration .. !!
We are safe for the entire year as far as the water supply is concerned ..
BUT .. the devastation caused by it in numerous regions of the country .. the depths of flooding it creates, the villages it disrupts, the colossal damage that it unfolds about it is beyond measure ..
For some a disaster, for some a blessing ..
And that is how we shall be treated throughout our lives - in despair and in blessings .. and none shall be the better off .. neither disaster nor the blessing .. for we shall never gauge when the blessing shall turn to disaster or vice versa ..
Dissent on modes of operation shall ever be present .. no one mode is similar and therefore different .. what then of its handling .. handling is right .. it needs to be handled with care - accept and be of nature patient .. for the similar or the opposite shall not take too long to reverse itself .. and as you look back in the years and the time that follows we shall realise its tenacity and strength ..
Achieving or working to such state that looking back is not a necessary exercise, shall ever thrust you to look beyond and far .. beyond what may have been seen as a limit not too far away ..
Few are there in the world that dreamt and made a vision of substance .. few are there that followed the follower or those that followed .. but the visionary remained individual in its initial thrust .. novel new and without copy ..
And … there shall never be a substitute to the labour to the hard hours to the defeats to the obstacles .. when you move regardless, regard takes a back seat ! Be of strength and valour .. be of power and creative wealth .. be of quiet philosophy and be in success and exclamation of it ..
OK … enough of the wise old man perceptions .. he is none of it .. he is of age .. he is of age experience .. experience that millions have without the strappings of the trappings .. and he is still not the wiser …
Confessed and distributed now and for the net in perpetuity ..
Perpetuity was never seen the way it is now .. now every human has the possibility of perpetuity and record .. studied, vacant or filled with the vastness of knowledge and science .. earlier times we never knew the possibility of achievement .. today we never flinch at the achievement of a possibility .. this generation does not have the issues and worries of the past generations .. they have their own, yes, but never unsurmountable .. those that find it an exercise of some difficulty, are not well versed with the availability of what they seek .. it is all there .. everywhere and somewhere .. somewhere to find solace of a solution, everywhere to extend the solace to the other …
PEACE .. seek peace and it shall answer with equal measure of disturbance .. the law of science, plays well with the law of the world .. every action has an equal and opposite reaction .. its just that one has to be in a place or situation where there is opportunity to duck away or face the barrage alone ..
The barrage strengthens the body and soul .. taken on the chin, they ‘are a delight to the mind’ .. succumbing to it gives lessons in the rise from the death as it were .. they that do so .. must ever be in the blessing of the Almighty, or whatever power they or they that subscribe, do .. without this, there is an unknown depth .. good for its unknownness .. good its knownness ..
Can we talk HP queer politics then? Cos you sound like you actually get it. Like, I'm so tired of going into the Drarry tag and seeing "Draco is a bottom, get over it" sort of stuff. Like they're defining H and D by their roles in the bedroom (and half the time they make Draco into this super effeminate, tiny, needy thing, and Harry into a super macho, muscular giant). I like that they're equals, and even if one does prefer to bottom, their don't have to change who they are to suit stereotypes
Unleash the beast, why don’t you? We can DEF talk about queer politics! I mean, I think we’re basically in agreement, but we can definitely talk queer politics.
So, first off, I don’t have a problem with people having preferences. Not in fic and not in bed. If people only want to top or bottom, or only want to read about topping and bottoming, I have absolutely no quarrel with that.
However, I think things get trickier when we talk about the overlap between sexual preferences and gender presentation and personality, and treat the relationship between those things as something static and absolute.
(tl;dr: maculinity != a desire to penetrate; femininity != a desire to be penetrated. Also a desire to penetrate !=masculinity; a desire to be penetrated !=femininity.)
A lot of the ways of being that help you find your people involve slotting in to specific gendered modes of expression. And that’s where things get even messier because we’re really fucking terrible at separating gender identity and personality.
But they’re separate! Like, there’s a stack of cargo shorts and polos and studded belts and handkerchiefs and shit from the first year I started actively dating women. It worked for letting people know that I was interested in dating women, but it also involved hearing a lot of weird assumptions and getting asked to join a lot of softball teams. Really, I’m more comfortable in pencil skirts and heels than all those cargo shorts. I also have a gf who gives patriarchal beauty standards at least a halfie on the regular. But when I’ve met friends of hers - straight and not - they, based on what they know of her, are sometimes legit surprised that I’m not butch. Because if she looks like a girl, I must be butch, right? Heteronormativity makes it difficult, if not impossible, for people to understand that kind of variation. Sometimes even legally. It confuses people when we won’t play by those rules or use those terms. And I know I’m not the only person for whom that’s true, or the only person who has played up a type of gender identity for the purposes of communicating with (or confounding) a particular audience.
So anyway, for years and years and years - centuries - queer people have
had to find ways to make themselves recognizable. That has often been
done (as makes sense, coming from a world steeped in heteronormative social scripts, and where mutual legibility is a priority) by marking gender in some way. Those gendered presentations get
taken to represent someone’s masculinity (including (because people are
stupidly lumping these things together) their stoicism, strength,
bravery, and desire to penetrate) or femininity (including their
emotional transparency, weakness, fearfulness, and desire to be
And I swear all of this has to do with fanfiction.
First, though, I’d like to tell you about a word. It’s a pretentious, douchebaggy word, but it’s useful here. That word is reification. To reify something is to take an abstract idea and make it real. So, for instance, if you believe that girls wear pink and are innately gentle, and you buy your daughter all pink clothes and scold her every time she’s ungentle, thereby making her, a real person, into your abstract idea of what “girl” means, that’s an act of reification. K?
So, fanfiction!! (In fairness, I did say the thing about unleashing the beast.)
My beef, again, is not with people who prefer to read topping or bottoming. Whatevs. I have a completely mysterious predilection for rentboy fic and once wrote 17k of parselsmut, so, like, hi, not here to judge.
I do have some beef, though, with the idea that Draco is an effeminate bottom and that Harry is a heroic top. Or, more precisely, with the idea that Draco is a bottom because he’s perceived as effeminate in a certain type of fanon depiction and with the idea that Harry must be the top because he is the hero.
1. Gender presentation != Sexual behavior. These things are not intrinsically connected. We associate them with each other, we even do (”do”) them, because there’s so much history to certain representations that we think they make sense. (See above, re: needing to be recognizable) But they don’t make actual sense outside of the socially constructed myths we have about them. Your skirt is not a direct line to your clit. Your manly chinos say nothing about your cock. Your clothes don’t even say anything about what your genitalia is or looks like or how you do or don’t like it to be touched. You cannot look at someone’s outfit or listen to their voice or look at their walk and know if they like dirty talk or a good spanking or facials or sex clubs or vibrators, right? So why would you think that you can look at someone’s outfit or listen to their voice or look at their walk and know if they prefer to penetrate, be penetrated, or both?
2. Draco’s Characterisation. This gets headcanony and I recognise that these things are not universal, but if we’re talking about bottom!Draco, let’s talk about bottom!Draco. There’s a certain fanon depiction of Draco, that I *think* dates at least to, and maybe largely from, Maya and Underwater Light (though I wouldn’t swear to the history) that paints Draco as frenetic and silly and effeminate and *fabulous* in a stereotypical sort of way. But Draco, as a character in canon, is probably under more pressure than any other character to perform masculine masculinity. He is explicitly required to be violent, stoic, and domineering. He has been trained to that from birth. Sometimes effeminatefanonDraco is rebelling against that, which I can sometimes buy if it’s a few years out. But, you know, it’s pretty hard to overcome a lifetime’s worth of conditioning, and I can’t imagine that Draco wouldn’t have a pretty hard time coming to terms with anything that he saw as really undermining that masculinity. And here the fiction/reality lines get tricky precisely because there’s nothing about being penetrated that’s inherently non-masculine - in another world we might say that being penetrated takes more strength in any number of respects, and we can’t know how wizards feel about this one - but in the world fic authors are writing from, getting penetrated is more frequently associated with femininity. So even if you are going to do this thing that I think we should all not do or at least be very very careful about doing, and conflate gender presentation with a preference for certain sexual behaviors, making Draco “the bottom” doesn’t actually make a whole lot of sense to me.
3. Harry’s characterisation. How pissed off do you think Harry James Potter would be about all this? Harry, who grew up with the Dursleys probably sniffing and turning up their noses at those people. Harry, who is saddled with being heroic even though it’s not something that he really wants. Harry, who is not ever given as much emotional space as he seems to really need, who never gets to have much of an affective outlet for his grief or his fear or his joy. Harry, who hates it when people treat him with deference because he’s a hero. How much do you think Harry James Potter would hate his unwanted heroism invading his most personal, intimate interactions? How do you think Harry would feel about being told that because he’s your hero, because he’s the fucking saviour, he better not like taking it up the arse, better not explore his prostate, better not like getting fucked, because that doesn’t jibe with his fans’ idea about the kind of man a hero can be? Cause I’m betting it would get a little face-punchy.
4. Reification. The sexual scripts we see around us inform our ideas
about sexuality and identity. These representations of bottom!Draco as
super effeminate either suggest that effeminate people are bottoms, or
that bottoms must be effeminate. And that idea doesn’t stay on the page.
If you buy into it - especially if you really buy into it and don’t
realize that it’s a tropey fic thing (which you may be most likely to do
when your sexuality is in its most formative moments) - you run serious
risk of coming to believe that this construction of relationships is
natural and real and The Way Things Are. Or you come to believe that if
you want to be penetrated you need to be effeminate in order to be
recognizable. Or you become the reason that people who want to be
penetrated feel they have to adopt more feminine modes of presentation.
Or you become the asshole who asks gf and I who the man is. The stories we tell each other matter.
By passing these assumptions around, by treating them like they are
TRUE FACT and OBVIOUSLY Draco must be a bottom because he’s effeminate
(which, see #2), you’re supporting the idea that gender presentation and
sexuality are the same, and you’re propping up a system wherein people
have to reify your ideas in order to be recognizable.
So, in conclusion: yeah it really bums me out too. And I think Harry would hate it, and I think Draco as we leave him in canon would not recognize himself in it. And, more important than the feelings of fictional characters, I think it does something kind of dangerous for all the actual queer people who are navigating the world, in that (a) they/we see these depictions and feel like they/we have to fit in to them in order to be recognizable to each other and to have any hope of finding the kind of sexual partner they/we want (especially because, especially for people who are just realizing they’re queer, there probably aren’t a ton of RL queer people and relationships to take as models, so whatever stories are available can be sort of extra formative) and (b) it reassures straight people that their incorrect assumptions are correct and that heteronormativity really is natural and right because even in non-straight relationships there’s a man and a woman, and makes them into the kind of straight people who demand a certain type of performance from the queer people in their lives and who get distressed and unpleasant (to say the least) when they don’t get that performance. And heteronormaitvity wins again.
And in all of that, the adherence to effeminate bottom/manly top relationships in our fictional lives is kind of a loss for all of us, if it keeps us from seeing new possibilities. If we stay stuck on the idea that feminine people like to get fucked and masculine people like to do the fucking, we lose out on a whole host of other possibilities - like that we could base our sexual behavior on what feels good instead of on what we feel like we should be.
This was kinda tricky because I wanted to draw something really alien-looking, but I have trouble with vehicles as it is. I used the Kawasaki Concept J as a reference. It’s a three-wheeled bike, so I added more car traits by widening it a little and giving it a fourth wheel and canopy.
Speaking of the canopy, it’s actually just a hard light projection, hence why it doesn’t appear as kibble in robot mode. Hard light’s actually kinda popular on Velocitron, as it’s still capable of shielding interiors from wind/particles/bugs while driving and can be turned off when not in use. Not quite as sturdy in a crash, though. Potentially dangerous? Maybe, but only if there’s a passenger involved.
So ultimately, instead of a typical racecar, she ended up being… a raceconvertible. That kinda looks like a bike.
And like, I don’t even disagree with those makeup posts, really! I resent having to wear makeup. For that matter, I resent having to wear my hair long; sometimes I feel like, if I could just get it all buzzed off without being instantly and automatically read as a dude, I’d totally do it.
Compulsory femininity sucks; it really does. Even I understand this, and I fucking love a lot of feminine things.
But… well, look, we can talk all day and night about how “passing” is a bullshit expectation, and how being read as a man doesn’t make me any less of a woman (it just makes those others wrong), and etc. etc., but the simple truth of the matter is that displaying more feminine gender cues than masculine ones means I get harassed less.* I’m broad-shouldered and my face shape is… well, it’s extremely obvious that I’m dmab, let’s put it that way. So, in order to get read as a woman, I need to make sure that my feminine gender cues outweigh my masculine ones. That means having long hair; it means changing the resonance (and, to a lesser degree, the pitch) of my voice; it means wearing unmistakably feminine clothing (which I do happen to like, so, y’know, bonus); it means wearing a (slightly) padded bra; and, well, it means putting on foundation after I’ve shaved my face to hide the fact that there’s a shadow there. Because experience shows that if I don’t do these things, I get rude stares, mockery, threats of physical violence, and sometimes actual physical violence.
It bullshit and it sucks. I’m not claiming otherwise. But it’s necessary.
If you don’t like it, maybe the thing to do is to push back against transmisogyny, instead of blaming trans women for just trying to survive the bullshit as all women do.
* inb4 some cheeky TWEF suggests that I could just avoid all that by presenting as a man. Which, LOL no; I still had people screaming “die faggot” at me back when I was in full male-presenting denial mode.