praise be to bryke

Final Thoughts on all of this Bullshit so I can be done

Apparently, the excuse for the lack of development for Korrasami that everyone, including Bryke, are grasping at is that “Nickelodeon held the reigns too tight and isn’t a network that supports homosexuality so Korrasami has an ambiguous plot line and ending that doesn’t feature a kiss." 

Oh really? Nickelodeon doesn’t like homosexuality? Is that why Nick had a Nick News with Linda Ellerbee: Coming Out that featured openly gay kids sharing their stories about their lives? Is that why they had a show about same-sex parenting? Would a network that doesn’t support homosexuality have a show like this? -___- 

Is that why Nick aired the show, 6teen (a PG Western Animated series), which shows throughout 5 seasons TWO CANONICALLY STRAIGHT MALE CHARACTERS having a ton of homosexual moments together that they enjoyed…… including hand holding, spooning, ass smacking, and kissing. The show also features a gay side character and a lesbian character. The show is filled with so many damn sexual innuendos, some weird scenes, and talks about one’s sexual identity all the time. There are literally several episodes that the writers have dedicated to the LGBT community.

There are also a ton of other shows on Nick that touch on homosexuality…. Drake & Josh has a gay kiss, iCarly has a gay kiss, Degrassi has a multitude of lesbian/gay couples, Sam & Cat has some moments, Spongebob has its fair share of moments too, 6teen sure as hell had its moments, and now that includes LoK as well. 

So please tell me again that Nickelodeon is against homosexuality and that two "highly acclaimed” writers could not develop a bisexual couple further, giving them more scenes together, including some more personal moments. Nick has already shown multiple gay kisses on their network. They couldn’t do that for Korrasami? Also, how is Nick “holding the reigns tightly” with Bryke when Nick was done with them and their writing by the end of Book 2? That’s why the show had budget cuts and was moved to online. That means they didn’t give a shit about it….. so why would they be holding any reigns on what they’re doing, subject-wise? 

-___- They were glad to be getting rid of the show. And Nickelodeon is a business, first and foremost, so they would only be concerned with Bryke if they were going over budget or if their writing featured something that they thought the public would not enjoy/something that is bad to show. Seeing that Nickelodeon supports homosexuality, and they had to be on board with the idea that Bryke presented to them, how is Nick holding the reigns tightly here?

I guess I’m failing to see how Bryke “pushed the envelope” with this couple, when the representation for Korrasami is miniscule. And if you look at these glowing reviews for LoK (only because of Korrasami being confirmed canon), Nickelodeon is being praised for them as well…… so wouldn’t they want to push the envelope further considering that they have a past of featuring shows with representation? I guess I just hate seeing these ridiculous excuses for why Korrasami wasn’t developed further or people saying that their “development” that they had was enough. 

I wouldn’t blame the network considering Nick is totally pro-homosexuality…..it’s called poorly executed writing……. that’s all there is to it. Korrasami, unfortunately, was tacked on the end, almost like an afterthought (WHICH IS RIDICULOUS), and people who ship the couple or people that want representation are praising this show for doing so with this minuscule amount. This isn’t the representation that this couple SHOULD HAVE HAD, or better yet, DESERVED. They deserved BETTER build up and BETTER representation.

I guess what’s pissing me off is this: 

Korrasami lacked development. They were portrayed as friends in Book 3 after no buildup in their relationship from the previous two books. And it is sad too that in this Book, we are told that they are best friends because they got past all of their Mako drama, but all we see is Asami being a doting friend. There are rarely any moments in which Korra cares about Asami or Asami’s well being. Then in Book 4, we’re given maybe four scenes that one could infer that they may have feelings for each other, but they are so minuscule and insignificant that it is ridiculous:

  • We see Korra blush at a compliment from Asami.
  • Korra writes one letter to Asami over a span of three years.
  • After three years apart and barely any conversation, Korra hugs Asami, but she also hugs Mako.
  • Korra puts her head on Asami’s shoulder during a GROUP hug that includes Mako.

It’s sad that these two ladies couldn’t be given more moments together, especially when they are the endgame couple. 

Their relationship becomes very one sided here too, in which we see Asami as the doting handmaiden/servant who praises Korra for all that she does. Not once does Korra ever concern herself with Asami’s life. The scene where they are in the restaurant features Asami sharing important news about her father with Korra and Mako…… Korra asks if her father is manipulating her again, to which Asami snaps back that she knows what her father is capable of. From this point on, Asami doesn’t bring up anything personal about herself until the last thirty seconds of the series. And after this point, Asami becomes irrelevant to the plot and is in the background. Asami only returns for some brief lines in Remembrances where she talks about Korra being the greatest human being there is over tea in a gazebo. *insert eye roll*

Korra and Mako go on an adventure together for an episode, and Remembrances features Mako’s feelings about Korra and how she “inspires” him. *insert eye roll* 

The end features Hiroshi sacrificing himself for Asami……there is little concern coming from Korra during the fight. Only after a set period of time, we have a wedding, and Asami is the one to approach Korra and then Korra hugs a sad Asami and then they go on a vacation holding hands and looking at each other. 

The problem for me is that:

1. How did we get from “we’re just friends” to “omfg be with me for eternity in the spirit world?” I don’t know about all of you, but relationships and friendships require work….. one can’t just be gone for three years with just one letter written back saying what they are doing and not asking about the other person. And when one returns from their three year absence, wouldn’t one’s so called friendship be a bit off? But apparently in one episode, we are told they are still back to best friends and then they’ll be lovers after four more episodes because that’s how relationships work in LoK. 

2. Speaking of rushed relationships, remember how rushed and forced and toxic Makorra was? This is a repeat of that. However, Makorra at least had moments of constant interaction and they both were concerned about the other. Also, they both kept confessing how much they loved each other…..*insert eye roll*  Where was that during this book? If Korra and Asami really “fell in love,” like Bryke keeps telling us……. where is their confession of love? And where is their portrayal of love? 

3. Why did Korra and Mako have so many scenes together if they were not going to be the end ship? Bryke, you ship teasing bastards.  Seriously….. couldn’t Asami have gone with Korra to go visit Zaheer? Did we really need to see Mako go with her and be by her side? And then go to her when she awoke on the ground? Where was Asami during all of this? Working on saving Korra’s ass in the finale probably. 

My point to all of this: You want representation? Cool, you should have it. You want some badass bisexual women being a powerhouse couple? Cool, you should have it. 

It’s sad that the representation given here was good, but it could have been SO MUCH BETTER, had this couple been really developed. Their relationship should have had more interaction and more couple-esqe moments, and they should have grown together. Instead, we got a forced and rushed couple that was tacked on at the end, like an afterthought, and we’re praising Bryke for, at best, writing a mediocre couple that had the potential to be fantastic. It’s truly sad that fanfiction tells a better love story between Korra and Asami……. and those writers aren’t getting the same praise, nor half the paycheck that Bryke’s shoddy writing is receiving. 

anonymous asked:

I don't understand how you Zutarians can simultaneously praise Aaron Ehasz and claim that major parts of ATLA were written by Bryke against his will. There are only two possibilities: either you are wrong, and he actually agreed with Bryke on Kataang and so on, or he disagreed with them as you claim, in which case he should have done everything possible to get them to change the most important parts, up to and including resigning if necessary.

I don’t really get what’s so hard to believe. Somebody who talked to him said this:

Me: Was there anything you weren’t too happy about the series, or anything you wanted to change?

Ehasz: Overall I was very happy with Avatar but yes, there are a lot of things I would change…I didn’t always agree with Mike and Bryan. It’s their work and I can respect that, but there was so much left to explore.

Obviously Bryke wanted to do things that Ehasz didn’t want. That’s why Bryke shepherded the last two episodes of the finale themselves.

Here’s another thing Ehasz allegedly said:

“Aaron said the rock jabbing into Aang’s back was silly and wouldn’t have had Aang get into a relationship with Katara at the end of Avatar. “

And if you know anything about chakras, you can CLEARLY see how silly it is. Also:

Aang loves Katara but not in the way he should, as it was based on replacing the absence of the Air Nomads, and Pathik believes he never learned what it meant to “let go” of her.

And it just so happens that the subplot with Guru Pathik had NO resolution in the cartoon. Just a coincidence? I mean sure, I guess you could convince yourself that it’s all a conspiracy if you really like Kataang, but there is just way too much evidence at this point for anyone who is unbiased. Why be in denial? I honestly don’t know how people can’t see it. Kataang was not originally going to happen, Zuko was supposed to be Katara’s love interest, and there was going to be a Book 4. Kataang only exists because Book 4 got cancelled for the live-action movie, and the story got butchered with plot holes and a rushed ending as a result. Kataang was NOT a part of the story’s original vision. It is VERY obvious at this point.

As for him resigning, why should he do that just because Bryke wanted to mess up the story with their big egos? I’m happy he didn’t resign because then Book 3 would have had even more writing issues than it already had!!

anonymous asked:

You have to at least admit that they tried to create a gay relationship. We shouldn't be at 2015 where there is this stench of homophobia in the air. At they are trying to move in a equal way.

Well, sure, but saying “by the way these two characters are totally bi as of two minutes ago” without any proper setup is extremely shitty writing. Representation is extremely important, but you still gotta have a critical eye. You need to praise the good and point out the bad so everything will improve. What Bryke has been doing is fumbling and throwing stuff at the audience in hopes that the (extremely justified) criticism of the writing in Legend of Korra will be replaced with praise. I’m not so forgetful that I don’t remember how dedicated they were to Makorra until the backlash hit them in the face.

Oh my, Bryan and Mike are just the best people. I’m glad they made these statements, because even though WE KNEW what that ending was, this will at least silence the idiotic denial we’ve been hearing. The debate about “is it canon?” was silly and distracting from the significance of that moment, which is a moment Bryke should be praised for to no end. But Joanna Robinson stated it better than I ever could.

I also love that Bryan talked about the characters speaking to them. Going back over and writing these analyses has made me realize just how organically Korrasami bloomed into a very deep, supportive, love. And that they’re kind of perfect for each other. There’s nothing forced or contrived about it, because their character journeys only made sense to take them to this moment. THAT is what amazing writing is. THAT is why this story is going to have a lasting effect.

And by the way, that thoughtful, brilliant writing was not unique to Korra and Asami’s romantic relationship. Look at Mako’s character growth and his moment in the finale, which pretty much made us all cry. Look at Korra up and facing Kuvira, who represents a kind of Dark!Korra, with nothing more than words and empathy. Look at Varrick, going from horrible war-profiteer to lovable scoundrel. Bolin, who is so gullible and trusting, yet has an unwavering moral compass and proved himself time and time again. There’s Suyin, Lin, and Toph and those complicated family dynamics. Hell, even Zaheer was slightly redeemed!

Every facet of this series was expertly woven into the last 2 seasons, and this thought and planning paid off in every way possible. Not to mention it was done in a way that was in line with characterization, and done in a way that tackled heavy issues and was thematically deep and nuanced.

Thank you, Bryke.

anonymous asked:

Yeah sometimes my hope gets low as hell but then I go back to the hand hold, tea scene and so much other moments that make my heart fly. I'm more stuck on the hand hold still because even if people don't ship it I was truly impacted on the relationship. Before book 3 I was just hoping for a friendship at least. Then the car scene happened that we had a head canon for so long. Now I'm just like if it's not implied relationship then why the moments?

totally. it was the handhold that did it. that was the scene that really started pushing things past the friendship direction. and i mean…even after that i was afraid that things wouldn’t continue into book 4 that way. i was completely prepared for m/akorra to resurface in book 4.

but not only did that not happen, but we got an implied romantic relationship spanning the entire book - the letter, the blush, the tea scene - lines like ‘you’re so sweet’ and ‘what’s going on with you two?’

of course it’s more subtle than any of the het couples on the show have been for the most part, and that sucks. but compared to the m/akorra moments for the last two books, it’s easily the most romantic of relationships that korra is in right now. people can deny it all they want but the narrative keeps favoring korrasami over m/akorra, again and again.

and it’s not just us ‘crazy shippers’ who see it, as countless critics and review writers, people completely impartial on the whole shipping front, keep bringing up korrasami. bryke calls korrasami ‘valid.’ janet sings its praises.

we all deserve to be hopeful about this if we want to be. because this is one of the greatest relationships in the show, it matters to us for reasons far more important than ‘shipping,’ and we DESERVE THIS.

NEVER FORGET THAT. AND FUCK ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU OTHERWISE.

anonymous asked:

just about your post about how korra and asami only got "those 20 pixels of screen time outside of their final scene" or whatever. this is not aimed at you specifically but all the transparent makorra shippers who have reblogged it. here we go: korra and asami may have gotten just those tiny pixels but did mako and korra interact (on on one) at all in the finale before their final scene? i'll have to watch again but im fairly sure they didn't. and like, yes I agree the ending (1/2)

was rushed and sloppy (even tho it was also cute af) but the buildup was there. if it wasn’t you wouldn’t have had people screaming all throughout book three and four about how korrasami “ARE JUST FREINDZ STOP READING SO MUCH INTO THINGS GOSH” knowing full and damn well had asami been replaced with mako, people would’ve gone into cardiac arrest. heteronormativity is a hell of a drug. (2/2)

omg first let me say i agree with you so much about the makorra shippers reblogging my stuff it’s soooo fucking annoying like they’ve all gone back to only caring about mako/makorra so quickly don’t take my legitimate criticism and apply it to you being unhappy about your ship. don’t pretend you wouldn’t be the ones defending the finale if makorra was endgame.

like my overall point is that neither korrasami nor makorra was in any state to become canon last-minute in the finale. i said this before it was released and i’m saying it now: bryke barely gave the krew any screentime in all of book 4 and that’s why so many people didn’t want a forced romantic ending at all.

the additional argument i’m providing (and this is where i disagree with your 2/2) is that in book 3 when the majority of korrasami development allegedly occurred, bryke consistently one-upped any subtle korrasami moment with an obvious makorra moment. in book 4 they consistently one-upped any hint at korrasami with a sledgehammer of makorra. and even if you argue that makorra was platonic, why have an episode of platonic makorra, which isn’t going to be endgame or the last scene of the show, instead of an episode of “platonic”-aka-everything-but-explicit-romance-because-of-nick korrasami, which desperately required development for the rapidly-approaching finale in which they were going to get together. like the entire Beyond the Wilds episode could have been korra and asami instead of Korra and Mako but as usual bryke pretended asami didn’t exist. five minutes before the korrasami ending they showed mako looking for korra sadly and asami was nowhere to be seen. why couldn’t they have made that be Asami instead? that’s why all these blindly ecstatic korrasami shippers should be furious at bryke like i am, not praising them.

anonymous asked:

i'm disturbed that ppl are still whiny about the Korrasami ending. Their relationship is beautiful. Plus they are happy with each other. I find it sad that ppl place more value on the gender thing than love and happyness regardless of sexual orientation. You fall in love with the person, not their gender or physical anatomy.

Exactly. And Korrasami started developing since Book 3 and people want to make it less valid than a ship that became canon in less than 5 episodes. Everything is valid, everything but a queer ship. If MK was canon in the last second of Book 4 everyone would be praising Bryke and crying tears of joy, but since it’s the queer ship, let’s bash everyone and drag people simply just because! They claim that people who didn’t watch Book 2 suck (for the people who didn’t watch it — you should, it’s the best season despite the Masami thing lol), but yet they’re the ones who want to pretend Book 4 never existed. Why? Because Korra is in a relationship with a woman now? Because until Beyond The Wilds aired, everything was perfect! Look at Mako putting his hand on Korra’s shoulder! Must be romantic! Meant to be! Then Korrasami happened and everything suddenly sucks.