pr closet

anonymous asked:

Hi there! I'm currently writing a paper about how things in hollywood are crafted? I've been struggling to find articles that reflect this. Do you know of any at the top of your head that talks about the construction of closets or boybands or at least a point of direction? Totally fine if you don't! Thank you and have a good day! :)

i have a bunch of links to articles i’ll start with and then i’ll also link you to some relevant tumblr posts that might help you direct your research.


celebrities call the paparazzi on themselves

watch this video from rolling stone where troye sivan talks about coming out and record companies closeting artists

Rowan Blanchard on closeted actors

vanity fair article on hiddleswift and other celebrity ‘conspiracy theories’ (hiddleswift, babygate is fake and larry mentions)

the forced womanizer images for union j’s Jaymi Hensley and Christopher Maloney (who later came out)

Vice: Why celebrities fake relationships to help their careers (with bonus glass closet mention)

union j member says artists are told: “you can’t come out”

tom daley interview with the guardian about coming out

not about closeting but absolutely vital reading - new york times interview with kesha about the dr.luke/court situation called ‘kesha, interrupted’

out magazine - pretty hurts: the joy and heartache of colton haynes (who talks about his coming out experience)

the another man article about the dark side of boy bands

(from the independent) revealed: the formula for a successful boyband

simon cowell’s own book ‘i don’t mean to be rude but’ talks about how important fake/pr relationships are

i want my, i want my, i want my TMZ: lessons for handling a pr crisis

the scandal attention cycle

Former Scientologist Cathy Schenkelberg Opens Up About Unknowingly Auditioning To Be Tom Cruise’s Girlfriend

interview with harvey levin about not outing closeted celebrities

Louis Walsh: I planted fake stories to cover up sexuality of Boyzone’s Stephen Gately

here’s an interview with the x-factor’s first winner steve brookstein (contains the infamous ‘that secret should have been ours to sell’ quote)

the art of the staged celebrity photo (text on tumblr but the post is originally from e!)

how to spot fake PR relationships courtesy of the daily mail (the irony isn’t lost on my either)

and of course @aaronbutterfield‘s breatheheavy article we need to talk about one direction

now onto the tumblr posts (most have a direct source link to the articles they discuss [a number are posted above already] but also provide additional commentary)

a bunch of links to articles about hold actors in old hollywood were closeted and/or mistreated by the studio system

more on the three week scandal cycle

colton haynes’ IG post about coming out

the curious case of closeting luke evans

jeremy renner had his own babygate

as did simon cowell

compilation post about tom cruise/katie holmes, leo dicaprio, and elton john

my leo dicaprio tag in general might be helpful but these posts in particular about his set up papped dates with blake lively a few years ago

here’s a crash course on scientology and how they closet the famous people involved in their ‘religion’

how entertainment closeting works

other closeted/formerly closeted celebrities (ranging from rock hudson to sam smith)

in oz, there are no curtains

robsten fake cheating scandal case study

fake and speculated to be fake celebrity baby scandals

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nice closet!

anonymous asked:

lads-laddylads,tumblr,com/post/142290253198/the-video-that-convinced-me-eleanor-wasnt-real Sonja have you seen this post?? I didn't see it until yesterday and i didnt think elounor was real before then, but this really solidified it for me. it's honestly so sad :(

yeah i’ve seen that before :( that and the video where harry’s playing football outside one of the venues and louis and eleanor stroll by and harry just … gives up and sits down.

and there’s a moment in this post too where eleanor kisses louis in the same car as harry and the look on harry’s face :/

and while we’re at let’s have these posts too

There comes a point when you can’t play everything off as coincidence anymore, and Harry and Louis passed that point about a hundred “coincidences” ago. All signs point towards larry, and i’m sorry if you think that’s delusional thinking, but honest to god there’s too much for antis to debunk. It’s been nearly seven (7) years and larry is STILL an ongoing debate, to the point where this fanbase is literally separated between antis and larries. The amount of shit they could have done to deny larry, like for instance, IGNORING IT. Instead even more attention was brought to it when they decided to bring in beards and babies and sending out a “hate” narrative. And it’s continuing even now to the point where Ben Winston is trying to erase the fact that H and L lived together by telling lies and resorting to enforcing Harry’s unwanted womanizing image. It’s gross.
Louis’ entire public image revolves around his relationships rather than his music and all the amazing shit he’s done for charity and the fans. We know who he’s dating at all times, we knew B was pregnant before she even started showing, we get pictures of every single time he’s with El including at his fucking public house. We’ve predicted practically every single thing that’s happened with elounor, it’s at a point where I’m no longer laughing at how poorly everything has been carried out. I’m an optimist, so hopefully this is the year they finally have their happy ending, though I doubt anything major like that will happen before the release of Harry’s album, By the way, speaking of the album, Harry’s constant need to the allude the number 28 is an example of one of those unfortunate “coincidences.” If you don’t think the dates all going back to 28 is on purpose, then please explain to me the likelihood of two people being haunted by a number. Also, while you’re at it, explain the corresponding tattoos and explain the new bee tattoo. Explain Louis’ treatment towards Freddie. Explain why Louis’ manager followed El on the same day within minutes of Louis following her BEFORE anything was confirmed or publicly set up. Explain the poorly laid out timeline of everything and how the narrative just makes Louis out to be a lowlife cheater. Explain why Harry can’t even say Louis’ name in an interview. Explain why Harry said he hasn’t dated in a while and yet is so seemingly in love and has filled his album with songs referring to a certain someone. Explain why Hendall is still being talked about when both teams have denied ever dating more than once. Explain Haylor and why Louis was so miserable at that time and why he always showed as much dislike toward it as he could. Explain Harry’s love of all things rainbow and for gods sake thE BEES. Explain the song Home and why Louis changed pronouns. Explain why Harry hasn’t used a single pronoun when describing a partner since practically the beginning, other than the times he’s straight up used male pronouns. Explain the lyric changes and the fond stares. Explain Wellington and rbb. And fucking hell, someone please explain why before Elounor 1.0 Louis tweeted AIMH, and before Elounor 2.0 he tweeted “Always” and captioned a very sad black and white selfie with “You.”
This literally isn’t even half of the shit I could have brought up. Louis and Harry don’t owe anything to me, and I’m aware we don’t know shit about their actual lives, but you can’t attack an entire group of people and call them delusional and use ableist terms and tell us we need to be checked into a mental institute when everything is so completely black and white. All you have to do is open your eyes and realize that people lie, the music industry is not a happy go lucky place, and people in the industry get closeted all the fucking time. Homophobia exists, heteronormativity exists, fear exists, forced closeting exists, pr stunts exist, and not everything is a glorified Hollywood dream

anonymous asked:

Larryappreciations response to Jay wanting Louis closeted is correct but she's saying Jay WAS supportive and now she's not.

*deep sigh*

no. that’s not what she’s saying.

“Fucking hell Jay was their number 1 supporter until she physically couldn’t be anymore”

until she physically couldn’t be. meaning she is restricted now in ways that she was not before and that ARE NOT HER FAULT.

jay cannot still publicly shout about how much she loves louis and harry on her twitter because that would be outing them and causing all kinds of horrible problems for louis and harry that they really don’t need to deal with. i get that it can be hard to discern between social media jay and real life jay because we see her social media more than anything else but it’s so obvious how much jay loves louis and loves harry and loves them together.

back when louis and harry could be more open, we saw how much jay adored their relationship. that hasn’t changed! jay is doing what she needs to do for the narrative and i don’t care how annoying people find it it’s effective and takes a huge load off of louis’ shoulders.

louis talks about what a momma’s boy he is and about how they talk every day. there was even that bit during their very recent alan carr interview to promote mitam where louis made a comment about the text he just got most likely being from his mum because of how often they talk!

and to counter all those anons saying, ‘louis doesn’t go home he’s avoiding jay she tries to guilt trip him into visiting blah blah blah’ let’s try taking context into account, shall we?

the period of time where louis didn’t go back home was when elounor was at it’s worst and when his sisters did not know he was with harry/that he wasn’t actually dating eleanor.

his sisters were so young and that would have been a huge secret to trust them with. based on the drastic contrast between 2011-late 2013 and then early 2014 to now (when louis spends tons of time with his family and visits often and they all went on vacation together last year) i think it’s fairly safe to assume that he told his sisters the truth about him and harry (maybe not the young twins but for sure lottie and fizzy) over the christmas holidays at the end of 2013 leading into their 3 month break at the beginning of 2014. here’s a great post with more thoughts on that from @ashavahishta

so no, it had nothing to do with louis not wanting to go home but with how sad it would have been to keep up the lie about eleanor even in his private life with his own family. i can’t even imagine how depressing and miserable that would be and tbh i wouldn’t want to go home often either if i was him in that position. (also we know that jay and louis used to meet up just the two of them during that time period which is just further proof that it was the situation not jay that kept him away.)

as soon as lottie came on tour with the band in 2014 (when she obviously knew the truth about louis and harry) things changed and we started seeing louis with his family so, so often.

Also, is everyone forgetting jay literally going around and introducing harry to her family and dan’s family at the wedding?


I feel like Louis was in a PR meeting one day and his team was planning his stunts for the next few months and they were like “ok louis look… ur ankle….. it’s just rly gay….. u know with the gay triangle nd stuff….. so like,,, u gotta wear socks to cover that shit up” and he was like lmao y'all are ridiculous. so that was the beginning of wearing socks and posting shoe selfies that turned into Warning Selfies™ and that’s why we’re getting Sock Louis now

anonymous asked:

Do you know any larry fics where they're realistic 1d ones. Like pr stunts, beards, closeting, angst?

There are some fics with this description. If your search the tag # Larry Non-AU (non alternative universe) on Tumblr or AO3, you find them all. I usually don’t read these types of fics because they are just too sad for me. Seeing Louis and Harry suffer from closeting in real life is enough, I don’t need to read about it lol. BUT I’ll list a few that I’ve heard are good! Enjoy :D

And Then a Bit by infinitelymint (158k)

“We’d like to give the fans what they want.” Magee states, placing his hand on the table in front of him and leaning forward. “We want to give them Larry Stylinson.”

Or, take a parallel universe where Louis and Harry were never together, mix in a two year hiatus and an impending comeback, pour in a dash of lost fans, two tablespoons of strong friendship and a Modest! employee with a good idea. Add a squeeze of pretending to be a couple, lots of kisses and a tattoo or two. Stir. Serve: the mother of all publicity stunts.

(aka Harry and Louis fake a relationship for publicity. Eventually it becomes a lot less fake and a lot more real.)

Untangle Me by suicxne (103k) [Features Taylor and Eleanor] 

Louis finds himself out of place in LA, unable to get at an itch that’s been bothering him for years. He supposes back in the early days, home hadn’t been a place. It’d been a person. He’d etched it permanently into his skin for fucks sake.
It was always him and Harry. Stuck to each other like super glue. Pulled together by some magnetic force, existing in their own bubble. Everyone could see it, but that was half the problem, wasn’t it?

It’s not like Louis can pinpoint the exact moment in time when him and Harry fell out of sync. There wasn’t really one at all. It had been a gradual slip, like the tide wearing away at a sandstone cliff. Chipping the solid foundations until there was nothing left to stop the structure falling to the waves below. It’s not like he spends all of his time sitting around moping over a lost friendship, he’s good at distractions. But LA only seems to accentuate the distance between them. Two separate planets, not even in the same solar system.

Or the one where Harry and Louis finally get it right.

the quiet things that no one ever knows by Artthrob (57k words) [Babygate]

Louis watches Harry, as Harry stares at the stove, and wonders what he is thinking. He has to have a breaking point, it’s only a matter of time. Louis feels selfish by his very own notion of love because if he could have it his way, he’d just let Harry take him back to bed and never leave. They’d trace constellations along each other’s spines, they wouldn’t ever have to see the night sky. He’d make Harry cry out his name again and again, so that music and the everyday sounds that make up nature or the city, would seem extremely dull in comparison. They could make up their own little world, with a population of two, and Harry would make up for the seven wonders. It was all so silly, these thoughts Louis has, but he’d take humor over this sharp blade sticking between his ribcage anyday.

“I’m going out.” Louis says. “And believe me, you know just as much as me when it comes to Briana.”

Harry, who was still staring down at the greasy bacon, glances back and nods slowly.

[or the one where Louis and Harry have dealt with several stunts throughout the four years of their life together, but this one just might ruin them entirely, and Louis hates himself for it]


btw I’ll be sure to update this if someone writes a fic based on From the Dining Table or Two Ghosts ~Ami <3

untwined  asked:

so first of all, your blog is pretty dope. its given me a ton of confidence in larry lately. anyway, i was wondering, whats your opinion on harry and louis "denying" larry? i know theres a ton of interviews where theyre asked the topic, but one particular one is this girl and she asks "but havent you two kissed?" and they're like "no" and then they get into the fandom and stuff. if you want, i can submit the link to it. i was just wondering what you thought of it.

Aww, thanks babycakes!

All good, I know the one you mean. Imma link you though to an amazing post, from about 10 months ago. I love our fandom because we’ve got insiders freaking everywhere!


I kind of know the interview, and I had an opportunity to ask her about this interview and she said that she was told to ask about Larry. She also said it was the most awkward part of the interview, and right after they addressed it they had to take a little break in which Harry and Louis stepped out for a few minutes.


i confirm this!
I also got to ask the interviewer (lauren) about the interview she did with them and she said it was great except for one part that was awkward and full of tension and i asked her what part that was and she said the part where she had to ask about larry.
i posted about this interview last year as well and she also told me that louis and harry needed a break after that part as well.

Even before I’d heard this, I thought there was a BIG difference in both halves of the question. It seemed to me that they knew this was coming and had decided on their regular ‘talk around it’ approach. Unfortunately, this interviewer was more thorough than they’d planned for. When she asked them flat out 'but haven’t you kissed?’ suddenly their soft denial and talk around it without answering approach wouldn’t work anymore, resulting in the most awkward hesitation of all time, followed by the least convincing 'no’ of all time.

I’m really not surprised from the confirmations that not only was the question enforced of the interviewer, and that Harry and Louis needed a break. This was really the first time they ended up actually denying their relationship and it must have been really distressing for them.

I feel like the same thing happened in that Sunrise interview in Australia where they showed Harry the magazine article about him and Louis. I think the intention of the interview was for Harry to look at the photos and declare them photoshopped, ('haha, look at that, crazy people will believe anything! Rumours, what can you do?’) but the interviewer, wanting an actual statement, pushed a hard answer - “So there’s nothing going on between you and Louis?

When you’re asked a direct question like that, it’s almost impossible to wiggle out of it with a clever answer, and immediately noticeable and suspicious if you try. In both cases they pretty much did what they had to do and it both cases looked extremely unsettled about what they were saying. Given all the other fuckery around these two and their relationship, I don’t give these denials any weight or worry.

anonymous asked:

Hello:) I'm new to the Larries due to babygate. I don't think it's real anymore, but also have some questions! For instance, you just wrote "why would louis ever agree to being known as a fake father" (for the rest of his life) but why would Louis be known as a fake father at all to begin with? it's not meant in a negative way - I just wonder what the intention behind it might have been? Why a baby and not just a fake relationship?

first of all, welcome to hell (i’m only sort of kidding). at least you’re here when things finally seem to be ending.

we’ve talked about this extensively over the past year or so (IT’S BEEN A YEAR I CANNOT BELIEVE IT) so i’m just going to link you to a whole bunch of posts to read (as well as link you to this page on my blog full of masterposts and links). if you still have questions after you’ve read them feel free to come back.

why is babygate happening in the first place?

the purpose of babygate has evolved over time

debunking the ‘it was a drunken one night stand’ theory (this post is from april and there still has not been a paternity test btw they’re clearly saving that for later)

on contracts, simon cowell’s contracts in particular, and why louis has been forced to go along with this for so long

simon cowell faked his own baby scandal just fyi (if you’re wondering where his inspiration for louis came from)

there has to be a denial (again, this is from march but if anything tmz’s involvement has only become more relevant)

this is not how someone who wants to be in the closet acts ( you don’t draw as much attention as possible to your situation)

louis doesn’t want to be in the closet

the smear campaign simon’s been running against the band with help from the sun and simon jones/dan wootton’s friendship 

For a better understanding of Fifth Harmony’s recent events: (Part 1)

(also read Part 2) (Léelo en Español aquí) (Você pode ler o texto em português aqui)

This comes from all of my learning while investigating the subject online as I have always been interested in the subject to understand how this work for all my favorite artists. This is only an opinion and is not intended to claim the exact truth, which only people living this situation know. My sources are Wikipedia, forums and videos. These are only my conclusions.

·      Before reading please take into account that these are all really young people and try to imagine them as that. Think about how old they are now and when they were in X-factor and signed the contract for the program.

Ally  -   23 – (19 in X-factor)
Camilla - 19 – (15)

Dinah -  19 -(15)

Lauren -  20 – (16)

Normani - 20 –(16)

 Now think about the age of the executives that have Fifth Harmony under their power and the number of years they have been working in the industry and doing this to other artists.

Keep reading

anonymous asked:

I read your answer on closeting. The fact that a contractual term is unenforceable means that a person can ignore it and act as if it doesn't exist. If sued for breach their answer will be that it is unenforceable. They don't have to sue first. If you do your research you will find that i'm right. Furthermore, it is not just the Equality Act but the European Convention that is applicable in UK. On a reading of the laws as they would be interpreted in today's context, closeting is unenforceable 1

2. And discriminatory. Not to mention a PR nightmare. Harry and Louis are closeted because they want to be. That is not a wrong thing. It is their choice. So what?

Oh, dear. Listen, I’m not allowed to give legal advice to random people on the internet. It’s against my ethical responsibilities. What I do around here is give my opinion, informed by my legal training and experience, on legal topics (and everything else, lol). But I’m going to take the chance and give you some direct legal advice: Do not just ignore contractual terms that you are bound to because you think they are unenforceable. You will get sued and you will lose a lot of money. If you do your research – as in, if you engage at all in adult business relationships and not some ideal fantasy world you seem to be living in – you will find that I’m right. A court holding that a contractual term is actually unenforceable is exceptionally rare. Like, so rare that when we discussed it in my 1L contracts class, there were very few cases to use as examples. That’s why every U.S. law student always thinks of the furniture loan example as the only example of an unconscionable unenforceable term. Further, you don’t seem to understand how law actually works regarding either the Equality Act or the European Convention. You can argue that “a reading of the laws as they would be interpreted in today’s context” would support you all you want, but without precedent, no one is going to base any business decisions on your, or their, “reading” of the laws. That’s not how it works; you don’t just get to decide for yourself how you want something to read. Law is about precedent; making new precedent is exceptionally difficult. There is no precedent holding that forced closeting as a PR strategy is a violation of any equality or non-discrimination law.

And how is closeting a PR nightmare? What world are you living in? The one where Troye Silvan purposefully came out before he signed his record deal so that his label couldn’t make him stay closeted? The one where Colton Hayes has emotionally discussed the pressures he experienced to stay closeted? They one where way too often Kristen Stewart’s girlfriend is referred to as her “gal pal”? What about the many other entertainers that are still closeted? They all chose that independently and freely, even knowing that it could be a “PR nightmare”? 

Of course there are people who decide to remain closeted for whatever reason, and they have every right to do so and their choices should be respected. But that’s the key: “choice.” And when hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe billions, come into play, coupled with a risk-averse and homophobic industry and a notoriously controlling and svengali-esque record label head, there are going to be contracts that reflect the absence of choice. Your idealized and uninformed notions of the law don’t override the unbalanced negotiating power between Simon and the boys when these contracts were drafted. In a perfect world your arguments would hold sway – but we don’t live in a perfect world. We live in a world designed and managed by capitalists who will absolutely exploit anyone if they believe it will make them more money and gain them more power. 

Listen, I am guessing that you are quite young and/or quite naive. That’s not a bad thing! That you haven’t been exposed yet to how unfair the world really is or that business in particular is generally unconcerned with what is right and focused on profit is not something to be ashamed of. It is, however, something to be aware of. To understand that perhaps others, who have already seen the unfairness of life, have something valuable to share with you so that you can perhaps not experience the same challenges that they had to. So, again, my one time free legal advice: do not just ignore parts of contracts that you think are unenforceable. You will get utterly and totally screwed. If you think that there is a term in a contract that you truly believe to be unenforceable, take it to a lawyer for advice on how to proceed. 

anonymous asked:

Why do you focus so much on Louis being gay? I'll be direct and say I'm not a Larry shipper but you seem intelligent and polite so I wanted to ask, why the attention to define Louis' sexuality? Why not Harry? A lot of Larry believers seem to be ok with Harry being bi? But not Louis, why can't Louis be bi?

Well I can’t speak for anyone else, but personally I think both Harry and Louis are gay. Of course, there’s always the possibility that either or both of them are bisexual or pansexual, but in my observations of them, I’ve never seen them display any genuine sexual or romantic interest in women, particularly in the women they’ve been publicly paired with.

Louis’s ‘relationship’ with Eleanor probably gets a bit more of my attention on this blog because he’s the one who’s more heavily closeted; Harry’s still allowed to hang out with gay friends and go to gay bars, kiss male friends on TV, wear t shirts supporting marriage equality and speak out against bigots like the Westboro Bapist Church, whereas Louis, the boy who once picked ’flamboyant’ as the one word he’d use to describe himself, is increasingly modeling himself as embodiment of all things heterosexual and masculine. He is used as the aggressor against 'Larry Stylinson’; the one who handles the bulk of their denials, calls the rumours ’bullshit’ and the fan-speculation ’a fucking annoyance’.  Harry might be name-dropped alongside every pretty starlet in the known universe, but Louis has to play the faithful boyfriend act and that’s harder to sell long-term. Either way I find both of their 'romantic’ interactions with women to be incredibly flat; one-dimensional and disinterested in a way they never are with each other.

To add to this, Harry has specifically address and dismissed the speculation that he’s bisexual when asked about it in that god-awful sexist piece of shit GQ article. I honestly believe that they try to avoid outright lying about their relationship as often as possible; it’s why Louis has so skillfully side-stepped the 'Larry Stylinson’ questions in the past (“apparently me and Harry are together and my girlfriend’s not real” “we just started out saying we were friends…”) and why Harry looked so freaking crushed when he was backed into a corner with the wording of the question in that Sunrise interview (“So Harry, you and Louis, there’s nothing going on?”) and was forced to reply with the world’s quietest and saddest “no.”

But probably the biggest reason I’ve been focusing more on Louis than on Harry in my discussions of their sexuality is because of what the closet is doing to their public image.  Harry’s Lothario public persona (and I might genuinely throw up in my mouth if I hear him referred to as a 'swordsman’ one more time), is actively rejected by so many of his fans, not just the ones who think Harry is dating Louis. You don’t have to think Harry is gay in order to look at the wide gap between his words and actions versus the things that are said about him in the tabloids and come to the conclusion that you’re being lied to by the press.

Conversely, Louis’ public persona is very much all or nothing. Either you believe he’s hiding his sexuality and relationship with Harry and disregard the unsettlingly and aggressively no-homo feel to some of print!Louis and @louis_tomlinson’s comments as closeting and pr spin, or you take the situation at face value and believe that despite the fact Louis Tomlinson has a long-term girlfriend he is still the sort of person who not only lets gay rumours affect his interactions with his best friend, but would also respond with anger and derision towards fans who might observe their (former) closeness that way. I don’t know about you, but I know which Louis seems like a nicer person.

In a nutshell, I guess the reason I rail against Louis’ closeting and bearding so strongly is because the people who believe in Elounor don’t just have the wrong idea about who Louis is dating, they have the wrong idea about who he is as a person.

I don’t understand how they can’t see who Louis actually is and I especially don’t understand why they’d want to be a fan of the version Louis Tomlinson they’re seeing instead.