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An Analysis of Kisame Hoshigaki

I posted this before on my blog Luxurien before I deleted it [and someone, not me, remade it like two days later]. I’m posting it again for jessi-mini so if you’ve read this before… It’s me who posted it.

To start this analysis we have to start with the canon material. What do we know about Kisame before he joined Akatsuki?   

1.      Kisame’s major point in his early missions was that he had to kill his comrades and it made him wonder about his purpose. Quote : “I knew that from the first time I had to kill my comrades – kill a Kiri ninja as a Kiri ninja. What does that make me? Am I a friend or foe? What is my purpose and my position? Where do I go? Where can I go? I’m well aware that my entire life has been one giant lie.”    

 a.       Okay let’s talk about this first. By killing his own comrades Kisame was forced to realize his own place. He was a Kiri ninja who was as disposable as the ninja he disposed of. In other words, he was a tool, an item that could be used and thrown away when it was deemed dangerous. The ninja he had to kill were loyal ninja who cared about Kirigakure, maybe not all of them, but at least some were. His reasons for killing the cypher corps. Was that they were too weak and would leak information. There was nothing else to it – it wasn’t like they were selling secrets, spies or anything else. When the time comes, Kisame could and would be disposed of – likely for knowing secrets such as the very people he was asked to kill just like the case was for Kabuto. In psychology, Maslow’s Hierachy of Needs, Safety is second most important human need and he lacks this safety – he isn’t safe and neither is anyone else in the godforsaken system that is Kirigakure and the ninja world. Major point of this paragraph: Kisame learns he is a disposable tool with no value to Kirigakure – answering “What does that make me?”    

 b.      The concept of friendship and allegiances. We see a Kiri nin be friendly with Kisame and he tells her it’s pointless. Why? Because he knows he will have to kill her. This means that he has no point in being friends with any of his fellow ninjas because they are all in the same boat as him they are all disposable. And soon, a ninja would likely come for his head. Everyone is an enemy. Can you imagine the world of loneliness that Kisame lived in here? Even surrounded by people he was completely and utterly alone. I’m sure all of you are well aware of the fact that a major theme of Naruto is that being alone is the worst form of hell. Naruto and Sasuke lived in this loneliness and it shaped their lives. Itachi’s sacrifice is so meaningful because of the loneliness he was willing to live in for the rest of his life for Sasuke’s sake. In psychology, again Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, love and belonging are the third most important thing and as a person who is lonely just like Sasuke, just like Naruto, just like so many others in the Naruto world, Kisame lacks it. But the strange thing is no one really stops to think that Kisame could also be alone but he very much was. Imagine the pain of having to kill someone who tries to connect with you – even if he doesn’t show it he must’ve been in massive pain killing that unknown Kiri kunoichi. In the end he is neither a friend nor a foe because he can’t be either – if he was a foe he wouldn’t be following Kiri’s orders but he was. Major point of this paragraph: Kisame is alone and suffering as much as the other Naruto characters, he is surrounded by people and yet none can be his friend nor his foe thus answering his second question.   

c.       “Where do I go? Where can I go?” – As a ninja he literally can’t go anywhere because he will be hunted. Any ninja who leaves the village is basically killed for their knowledge, you can’t just change your profession or retire as a ninja. You can’t seek refuge in another country because they will use you and tear you apart. Not only is Kisame completely and utterly alone, he has no refuge anywhere. He can’t go anywhere. Imagine being in a blank room and being locked in there with no exit, and no one to talk to. This was Kisame’s life.   

d.      “I’m aware that my entire life has been one giant lie.” – Okay this is very important. Through having to kill all his comrades, through having to watch as one lie after another is told to the Kiri ninjas and to himself he realizes that nothing is real. What does that mean though? Think of it like this: Kiri nin become friends as children, just imagine what a typical friendship is like anywhere. Then as academy students they’re slammed and forced to kill their friends – the first lie they lived was the lie of friendship. Any second now the person you trusted with your life would kill you. Now moving on, the case with the cypher corps, those ninjas were all told, even if not explicitly, that they were ninjas and important parts of the Kiri family. They have this implicit trust in the other ninjas despite the events with the blood mist – they trusted Kisame before he had to kill them – that trust means that they were lied to in some way or form because they weren’t expecting that. Kisame was lied to as well because with the realization of what he is – a disposable tool – he knew that his trust in his superiors was already unwarranted. In other words, since he cannot trust anyone with even basic things like not killing him, how can he trust more complex things about society or life? “I’m an important tool for this village” lie. “I’m a Kirigakure ninja” am I really, even after killing other Kirigakure ninjas? “I’m doing this because I have to, it was for the best of the village” but was it really, were their deaths really necessary, wasn’t there another way, were those secrets of the cypher corps more important than their lives? In a world where he can’t speak to any other being, can’t believe in any other being, what is Kisame to believe in? That’s right, nothing. The entire world is a lie. If everyone was just honest with each other, would that be so hard? All this drama could be avoided. Major point of this paragraph: Kisame can’t believe in his village, he can’t see the truth, he is alienated and confused about why the system has to be this way. 

e.       All of the above points come together for an important question that Kabuto voices – “Who am I?” That’s right, who is Kisame then? He needs to figure that out, learn his own way and create his own ninja way (just like Naruto). He rejects the idea of being a tool, just like Naruto. When the straw on the camel’s back is broken by the fact his superior was also a lying nincompoop, Kisame kills him, just tired of all this drama. He takes Samehada and gets ready to leave when…    

f.       Omg more freaking drama. Turns out just when the system couldn’t get any more broken, the Mizukage himself is actually a rogue Uchiha. Yeap, that’s right every single person in Kirigakure, every single ninja was being lied to. Lie upon lie. At this point Kisame doesn’t even look surprised he’s just like (he does look surprised when he realizes it’s Madara, someone who should be dead, but not surprised that the Mizukage is really controlled):                         

2.      Kisame joined Akatsuki to create a better world, a world without lies. To him, a world where everyone could speak to eachother honestly would be one where people could feel safe because they would know who to trust and who not to trust. It would be a world without loneliness because you would know how the other person feels – you would know you could be friends. A world of honesty would be the answer to the broken ninja system, and being a tool of such a broken system was useless. In a way his motives were no different from Sasuke or Naruto or Obito or even Itachi’s. He went about his ideology and philosophy in a different way, but then again Itachi, Naruto and Sasuke all had their own differing ideologies for how to fix the broken system, just like Kisame. They all had their own ways of achieving this goal.   

3.      In his death Kisame believed the Konoha ninja were fighting for the wrong side, he, at this point, didn’t care where they were from or what their purpose was. All he knew was that they were fighting for this broken system. I will come back to the importance of Kisame’s death and why it is so beautiful after I go into his time in Akatsuki and his relationship with Itachi – so let’s get to that.    

4.      I said earlier that this would be all canon – well with Itachi some of this is me filling in the blanks and not canon but I will be specific about which parts are and aren’t so you can come to your own conclusions. Kisame’s relationship with Itachi is very important because it allows Kisame to fill his Hierarchy of Needs (Okay I realize I’m referencing this a lot so I’m going to link every “Hierarchy of Needs” to the wiki page so you can understand what it’s about if you don’t know). By filling these needs, Kisame becomes content with life and lives for once, as a human. But more on that later – first let’s get to their relationship development.   

a.       Their first meeting, I’ll address everything they say in the order it comes up – the first thing is that Itachi notes that Kisame is lost and unable to find a place for himself. Why is it that Itachi can tell? It’s because the story is the same no matter where you go. All ninjas are suffering under this oppressive system, it doesn’t matter where you’re from. All ninjas are unable to find their place. Itachi knows already when Kisame says that there something to be said of those who kill their own comrades – he knows already that Kisame was likely pushed to do it. Why? Because otherwise he wouldn’t have joined a group like Akatsuki, he would’ve just killed it. He joined for some reason or another. He knows already that under this oppressive system even if Kisame wasn’t pushed to do it, he had reasons for it. But more than likely, he was very much aware of the system the blood mist as it’s known had for raising ninjas, it was no surprise that someone would be disillusioned under such a world. Itachi, already, understands Kisame. This is like Sasuke and Naruto understanding each other’s hearts right here. Seriously.     

b.      The second thing to note is that Itachi tells Kisame “No one who has killed their own comrades can find true peace.” And Kisame assumes that Itachi is there is no point then. Kisame: “Then I guess that means we are both damned to hell.” And Itachi clarifies and gives Kisame hope. He says “No… You never know what kind of person you are until you die… Isn’t that what dying is?” In other words he’s saying to Kisame that he isn’t judging Kisame for his past, he’s saying Kisame can redeem himself and be someone who can find peace through his future actions.     

c.       The third thing to note is Itachi saying “No, we are humans not fish.” You know what Itachi is saying to the man who is known as the literal Monster of the Mist? He’s saying “you’re human, I see you as a person.” You know what he’s saying to the man who believes he’s disposable as a tool to Kirigakure? You’re a human. You know what he’s saying to the man who is denied feelings, security, friendship? You’re human. To the man who has to kill his own comrades and wonders what he is? You’re human. Just damn. This is the best statement possible, it just tugs at my heartstrings seriously.    

d.      Okay now let’s go further into Itachi and Kisame’s relationship now that their first meeting is out of the way. What are some things we canonically see happening between them? Here’s a list:

1. Kisame is concerned about Itachi’s health (and scolds Itachi on overuse of the Mangekyo Sharingan).

2. Itachi is concerned about Kisame’s health and doesn’t let him fight battles he can’t win (Kisame got permission from Itachi to fight Roshi, the four tails).

3. Kisame gets freaking permission from Itachi to do things, is this not big?

4. Kisame respects Itachi and acknowledges him as the stronger of the two (potential fight with Jiraiya).

5. Kisame is quick to agree with Itachi and admit fault. He admits fault to Itachi even if he feels defensive at first, he’s considering Itachi’s feelings. (After the fight with Roshi when Itachi scolds Kisame on taking too long is when this happens).

6. Kisame frequently asks Itachi if he’s alright with things (one example is when Deidara announces he’s going to kill Sasuke, Kisame asks if that’s alright with Itachi. Yup he’s taking into account Itachi’s feelings for everything he does and others do to make sure Itachi is happy.).

7. When Akatsuki announces that Sasuke is dead and Kisame thinks Itachi may be crying he apologizes and tries to comfort Itachi. Damn.

8. After Itachi dies, Zetsu wonders whether Kisame will leave Akatsuki as if Itachi was the only reason Kisame stayed so long. It’s so serious that Madara has to personally come reveal himself to get Kisame to do what he wants. Geez. 9. Okay this is non-canon it was in the games. In brief sparring session before Itachi goes to fight Sasuke, Kisame knows it’s his last time fighting Itachi and he actually says he will miss Itachi after all they’ve been through together. This is non canon but it can be assumed (headcanon) that Kisame knew that Itachi’s fight with Sasuke would be his last because there is no way Kisame was oblivious to Itachi’s illness and such.    

e.       Okay, we get it Kisame and Itachi have an amazing relationship, so what? Okay, I’ll tell you so what. Itachi fulfils Kisame’s Hierarchy of Needs is so what. Kisame feels secure enough to stay his partner so long, he finds friendship in Itachi, and it’s because of that that Kisame learns who he is and gains Esteem, respect for himself and for Itachi as humans and not tools. This is the something many of us actually struggle with but Kisame gains it because of Itachi. If you don’t understand the importance of this please go read wiki on the Hierarchy. But to expand a little, gaining esteem is one of the “higher” needs that is less important than things like “love and belonging” and is rarer to find. Many people in today’s world don’t even get to this level much less in the ninja world.    

5.      Kisame’s death and self-actualization. This is just hands down the most beautiful death in the Naruto world in my opinion. Self-actualization is the highest need in the hierarchy, and is described as becoming everything that a person can be and desires to be. In his death, Kisame accomplished this because he became a man who stood for his beliefs and died for them. He died to create the ideal world he believed would benefit humanity. He died for his beliefs and sense of justice. He knew in his time of dying just like Itachi told him, exactly what he was, something he wasn’t so sure of before. What he was was an amazing man who deserves every bit of credit that the major Naruto characters got. His sacrifice is as beautiful as theirs.    

6.      Okay this is already way too long I’ll go into headcanons and more on his character and personality later, I barely got started here and it’s like 10 pages on word.


Okay as promised in my analysis I’ll go into Kisame’s personality and headcanons.

The first thing to note is that Kisame shares many shark-like characteristics not only physically but mentally as well. He also has a human side which is overwhelmingly dominant, but that doesn’t mean he is immune to the shark side either. A list of canonically shark like traits he has:

1. Gills & ability to breathe underwater
2. The fin, webbed hands in shark mode
3. Blue-gray shark like skin
4. A muscular body - just as we imagine sharks to be muscular/large/predatory
5. Fish eyes
6. In shark mode he loses the hair on his head. Fish don’t have hair.
7. Sharks don’t hesitate to attack and rip apart their prey and neither does Kisams. He is sadistic (though in all fairness, any good shinobi should be like this and it could be a product of his upbringing. He is said to be the best in Akatsuki at bringing his prey back alive but no one said anything about his prey being in one piece, considering his attitude towards just cutting off Naruto’s legs when Itachi and Kisame first visited Konoha, it’s unlikely his enemies were in one piece).
8. Kisame likes seafood, Sharks eat smaller fish.

Based on the canon statements above I have the following headcanons about Kisame:

1. Kisame doesn’t have hair on his body except on his head, like how fish don’t.
2. His skin not only looks like a fish’s but feels like one. He isn’t warm but rather cold and clammy. In addition, his skin is made of denticles just like sharks, meaning unlike fish scales, it’s hard and rough and useful for protecting himself. His skin is tougher than a normal humans.
3. Like Kimimaro, he would have a hard time getting medical treatment because his body is slightly different from an average humans.
4. Like Kimimaro, Kisame inherited his traits, therefore the Hoshigaki’s are all shark like in nature.
5. Kisame likes the smell of blood and can smell it from afar, if an enemy is bleeding he can use his sense of smell alone to figure out where they are.
6. Like sharks, Kisame can regrow his teeth.
7. Kisame doesn’t need to cook his meat, but can if he wants to. He has no preference one way or another.
8. Kisame is possessive and territorial.

In his more human side, Kisame is incredibly intelligent and able to act quickly. Kisame’s intelligence in the databooks is 3.5 which is the same as Sakura’s in part 1, and intelligence is her defining characteristic. In future databooks, Sakura’s intelligence is 4. Still, it’s a testament to Kisame’s clearly above average intelligence.

Kisame doesn’t feel the need to rip apart every person he sees even if he enjoys fighting and ripping apart opponents. This is proven by the fact that he can and does restrain himself when Itachi asks him to. In addition, he has incredible self restraint and control as he is the best person in Akatsuki at bringing people back alive. This means he knows exactly how much energy or strength to use and he can actually put out the exact amount needed.

As obvious by his attachment to Itachi, Kisame is incredibly loyal. However, that doesn’t mean he needs to be obvious, affectionate or anything like that.

He is cold, quiet and reserved until he gets to know someone, as shown by his standoffish nature in Kirigakure, but his more open attitude with Akatsuki members.

Kisame is an optimist. He believes a better world is possible. He sees the good side in people, such as Tobi’s silliness.

He isn’t a frilly, kind person. Except maybe for Itachi but even then there are limits, mostly due to the fact that they are Shinobi. In an AU with different upbringings, this concept can be discarded.

Random personality stuff, all headcanons:
1. Kisame is rarely late. He tends to do things on time, and he does his work correctly and thoroughly.
2. Kisame has his own biases, he is not an objective person, but he is as honest as he possibly can be and tries to remain unbiased. His biases appear the most with things he cares a lot about (lies, importance of imformation, Itachi…).
3. He doesn’t feel the need to follow the rules of he doesn’t agree with them. Using Kohlberg’s stages of moral development, by the end of his life, Kisame has reached the Post- conventional stage. Read about Kohlberg’s stages of moral development here. Note that it is incredibly rare for someone to reach the post- conventional stage.
4. Despite his trust problems and reserved attitude in Kiri, he is a social person and likes to talk. This means his upbringing affected him into being reserved, but he isn’t naturally that way.
5. Although he can understand others, he doesn’t have sympathy for them. It’s a good trait as a shinobi, but a negative in AUs.
6. Kisame is in the moment kind of person. He doesn’t zone out or get lost in a train of thought. Itachi may, and it’ll be Kisame who snaps him out of it.
7. He is vary of strangers and new people, all shinobi should be honestly, and so it takes a long time for him to open up to anyone. Keep in mind a lot of this has to do with trust issues and growing up in Kirigakure.
8. Kisame has a humorous side and does occasionally joke around.
9. Kisame would be muscular and fit in any AU as well as the Narutoverse, just like Gai would except maybe one where he’s malnourished and oppressed or something.
10. Kisame and Gai would be very good friends in an AU.
11. Kisame plays a game where he finds ways to break Itachi’s perfectly impassive and cold demeanor without offending or angering him.


Kisame’s history-

Kisame was likely an orphan, but knew his parents, and they were killed during one of the many battles during the days of the Blood Mist.

If he had parents they could’ve guided him in the right direction but he lost his sense of self and the world around him, meaning they weren’t there to be a guide for him later in life.

However, it should be noted that even if he lost his sense of self he didn’t lose the ability to trust or respect others, because he has a lot of respect for Itachi. This to me states that if he did have parents, they were not abusive ones. His family may in fact have been the truth in his life before they were killed somehow, because otherwise Kisame wouldn’t be able to trust at all after his experiences in Kirigakure.


More notes :

Kisame ruthlessly killed his superior for being a traitor and a liar. Kisame viewed lies as a reason the world was the way it was, and sought to fix it.

However, Kisame’s partner Itachi was the biggest liar in the whole series, Akatsuki was one big lie after another, Madara was a lie, the Eye of the Moon was a lie, Black Zetsu was a lie, all around lies.

If Kisame found out about these things his response would differ per situation. For Itachi, he would see that Itachi was still loyal to his village, and see that he himself was the enemy. He would understand Itachi’s lie because it was a lie out of loyalty just like Kisame killing his comrades was out of loyalty (until he got sick of it). I think if he understood Itachi’s purpose he would let it go, unless Itachi continued to lie to Kisame afterwards. This is heavily due to the analysis part where it’s shown that Itachi is Kisame’s most important person because of the change he had on him. Also, even if Itachi’s reasons for Akatsuki were a lie, his relationship with Kisame wasn’t. Even when he came back from the dead Itachi thought about Kisame and in life he worried about Kisame as well. If Itachi’s relationship with Kisame was the lie, rather than his reasons for Akatsuki, Kisame would have killed Itachi upon learning the information.

With others in Akatsuki, Kisame would either kill them on learning the truth, or quit and wander in search of his own way to fix things.

If he hadn’t joined Akatsuki, Kisame would like have done the same thing Zabuza did to try to bring change- stage a coup de etat against the Mizukage and take charge.

Finally things Kisame is not:
1. Mindless brute.
2. Someone who uses pet names. Just no. He isn’t going to call you “angel” or use the ending “-chan” just no.
3. Violent without reason. This is just far too common a misunderstanding.
4. Kisame may curse but he won’t do it excessively or very often. Don’t overdo it with the cursing, he’s not Hidan.
5. Frilly. The most he will do is ask something like “are you okay?” He will be uncomfortable with asking more or getting more into it. When he comforts someone it will be awkward like his attempt to comfort Itachi after Sasuke’s “death.” He isn’t going to be overly kind about it. Seriously, he’s not frilly.


While I’m posting cosplay, here is me as Olivia (Photographs by Rob Rio and Teresa Guyer!).  I first wore this at Otakon2016, I believe, but remade it in time for a local con and then wore it again at Katsucon2017.  I MIGHT wear it to Otakon2017, provided that I can remake the armor before then.  (Robin and Forrest kind of take priority right now.  But I FINALLY found thigh highs that go to my thighs so…mAYBE).  Funny story, I worked out so much that my biceps are too big for the cuffs now.  D:

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Aww this is so sweet thank you! I was objectively a mess at that point, tumblr really gets to be draining. I think remaking and following only blogs that didnt stress me out quite helped and also my boyfriend has made everything in my life eons better so :) thank you!