portrait of hiccup as a buff young man

anonymous asked:

I was wondering if you could do a list or something of everything from the books that’s in the movies and tv show universe? Like every detail, character, plot or influence no matter how small or big?

Unfortunately I’m never going to be able to get it all, and it’s be quite the time-consuming project to try! However, thankfully the httyd book fandom is very good about picking up parallels, and I’ve previously made a list on this same topic! Here’s a semi-updated list about many of the movie and tv show parallels. Friends, feel free to tack on if you think of other parallels! It’s fun to see all the parallels that there really are!

Obviously… this is going to be resplendent in spoilers across both the books and DreamWorks franchise.


  • The first movie has the general plot structure of the first book and is clearly inspired from it. It is the story of a young boy who trains with other youths his age in the ways of his tribe. By completing training, he can do a rite of passage and demonstrate he is one of the tribe. However, he fails this rite of passage and is cast out of the tribe by his father. Then an enormous dragon threatens the village. Hiccup leads the other youths to defeat the dragon. Ultimately, his own dragon Toothless saves his life and guarantees victory before he gets eaten. Hiccup’s relationship with Toothless grows throughout this adventure.  
  • Berk is a small island with unpleasant weather. Especially, it’s cold.
  • Lots of the same characters - Hiccup, Toothless, Stoick, Gobber, Tuffnut, Snotlout, Alvin, and Fishlegs. Gobber remains the teacher of the students and Snotlout remains a bit of a cocky, self-important nagger against Hiccup. Stoick’s design with an enormous beard is consistent. We also have a dragon named Stormfly and a Monstrous Nightmare named Hookfang in the books!
  • Monstrous Nightmares are seen as a status symbol in Berk. The Monstrous Nightmare is considered the dragon for the chief and his family in the books. The Monstrous Nightmare is the dragon only the bravest kill in the first movie.
  • Astrid is inspired off of Camicazi. Both are bold, blonde female characters with great fighting abilities who are close to Hiccup and own a dragon named Stormfly.
  • Berk owns a dragon manual written by a renowned Viking. In the books, Professor Yobbish wrote “How to Train Your Dragon,” the ultimate guide for the Hairy Hooligans. The Hairy Hooligans revere this book as the means of how to control dragons. In the DreamWorks movies, Bork the Bold wrote the Dragon Manual, the book the Hairy Hooligans respect as the authority for how to control dragons.
  • Dragon species with the same names - Nadders, Monstrous Nightmares, Gronckles, Purple Death. The Gronckle’s design is also notably similar between book and film, and while the Monstrous Nightmare is larger in the movies, but you can see the similarities in appearance to the ones in the books.
  • Hiccup confronts the Red/Green Death. Book!Hiccup fights the Green Death to protect Berk. DW!Hiccup fights the Red Death to protect Berk as well. Hiccup nearly dies from this encounter and is saved by Toothless. In the books he’s swallowed by the Green Death and saved by Toothless coming in to save the day… in the movies Hiccup is caught by Toothless before plunging into an explosion and crashing to the ground.
  • Hiccup loses part of a lower limb. DW!Hiccup loses a leg. Book!Hiccup loses a toe in How to Steal a Dragon’s Sword.
  • Gothi the elder is the movie’s version of Old Wrinkly, a wise elderly member of the tribe with magical connections. It’s to note DreamWorks was originally going to have much more magic in the early drafts of HTTYD.
  • Spitelout takes the same role as Baggybum. He is the spiteful, nagging Viking close to Stoick’s side who seems to question the chief. He’s the father of Snotlout. Spitelout was originally planned on having a larger role in early HTTYD drafts… back when those drafts were closer to the books. We can see in the resulting movie and shows the threads of Spitelout’s resemblance to Baggybum (and Snotlout and Hiccup being cousins).
  • The phrase “kill on sight.” Not an intentional parallel, but in the first HTTYD movie Hiccup reads in the dragon manual that every dragon is, “Extremely dangerous. Kill on sight.” Book!Hiccup’s wanted poster also has the phrase “Kill him on sight.”
  • One of the statues in the HTTYD movies has a helmet similar to book!Hiccup’s. This helmet has one broken horn. Some fans have considered this a parallel to book!Hiccup’s broken-horned helmet.
  • Toothless is a rare, powerful, “special,” and feared species. The Night Fury is a dragon regarded and feared because no one has seen it and lived to tell the tale. The Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus is the greatest, most powerful, and most feared species of dragon in the books.
  • Fishlegs was originally going to ride the Hideous Zippleback. And in the books, Fishlegs’ dragon has three heads!


  • Hiccup owns a small, obnoxious green dragon. The Terrible Terrors were initially designed to be book!Toothless, back when DreamWorks planned on making the movie closer to the books. In DOB, Hiccup gets a small, green Terrible Terror named Sharpshot… who acts similarly to the small, obnoxious green dragon Toothless in the books.
  • Viking students learn how to train small dragons. “Best in Show” is a story where Hiccup and the other Dragon Riders attempt to train Terrible Terrors and show their skills. It’s similar to the rite of passage in the first book, where Hiccup and the other students in Berk must show how they have mastered training a small hunting dragon.
  • Hiccup collects ancient family treasure. Both book!Hiccup and DW!Hiccup follow a map and other clues to locate an ancient family treasure, a treasure that only someone like Hiccup specifically could find. In ROB “Portrait of Hiccup as a Young Buff Man,” Hiccup follows Hamish the Second’s treasure trail - something “only a hiccup” could do. In the books Hiccup the Third collects The King’s Things from Grimbeard the Ghastly - something only Grimbeard the Ghastly’s prophecied heir could do.
  • Basically… all of “Portait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man” gives off book vibes. It shows Hiccup insecure about how his father regards him, showing that Stoick sometimes gets carried away with ideas of his son as a stronger, more “typical” Viking. We also learn that Hiccup has an ancestor in the past, Hamish the Second, who was a runt… just like Hiccup in the books learns about Hiccup the Second and Hiccup the First.
  • Snotlout and Hiccup constantly bicker… and part of the reason is because Snotlout is jealous of Hiccup’s status and achievements.  These two do not get along. Snotlout often acts rudely toward Hiccup. In “Defiant One” Snotlout shows he is jealous of Hiccup, just like Snotlout reveals to Hiccup in How to Betray a Dragon’s Hero that he’s fought Hiccup much due to jealousy. But, in the end, Snotlout and Hiccup make up when Snotlout does a bold, heroic action (compare “Cast Out Part 2″ with the end of the eleventh book).
  • Alvin the Treacherous. He’s a chief of the Outcasts who battles against Hiccup in both show and book series! The presence of Alvin the Treacherous and the Outcast Tribe is a clear inspiration from the books.
  • The Berserker Tribe. This is a tribe from both the books and shows.
  • Dagur versus Norbert. Dagur the Deranged and Norbert the Nutjob are both chiefs with deep intelligence but a wild sense of “crazy” unpredictability.
  • Fishlegs is a wannabe poet and musician. Fishlegs writes his own poetry and sings songs during Riders and Defenders of Berk. Fishlegs in the books wishes to be a bard and writes his own (terrible) poetry.
  • Dragons demonstrate similar abilities between book and show. For example, Changewings are dragons that can turn themselves perfectly invisible, like multiple species from the books can (ex: Stealth Dragon).
  • The eggs explode! In both books and DreamWorks franchise, dragons hatch through exploding eggs.


  • Hiccup’s name. Hiccup Haddock the Third is mentioned in the show… referring to the full name of the book’s protagonist, Hiccup Horrendous Haddock the Third.
  • Fishlegs is believed to have allergies against dragons. Fishlegs has allergies to dragons in the books. DW!Fishlegs is suspected to be allergic to Meatlug in “Big Man on Berk.”
  • Snotlout mentions wanting to be chief. Snotlout makes several comments about how he is almost like the chief. It’s an interesting call-out to the book’s Snotface Snotlout, who spends most of the series trying so hard to become chief himself.
  • Snotlout tries to become leader. Snotlout is always trying to become the chief of Berk in the books. Snotlout tries to take over Hiccup’’s leadership and become the leader of the dragon riders in “Not Lout.”
  • Snotlout and Hiccup physically fight. Snotlout tries to fight and kill Hiccup in multiple books. In “The Zippleback Experience,” Snotlout is supposed to attack Hiccup to make Barf and Belch believe Hiccup’s life is in danger. The result is Hiccup punching Snotlout.
  • Snotlout death references. They’re everywhere. Snotlout making a comment, “What’s one little arrow going to do?” - when he gets shot by an arrow in the books. Snotlout flying to take a hit from an arrow/quarrel for Hiccup in the skies during “Not Lout.” Snotlout falling from his dragon into the ocean and believing he’s dead in “Snotlout’s Angels.”
  • Dagur’s false death goes down similar to Snotlout’s book death. Dagur becomes a protagonist after trying to kill Hiccup for eons. When he is finally accepted as an ally, he goes forth to tackle an enormous enemy in a sacrifice to protect Hiccup. He is downed from his dragon and plunges into ocean waters.
  • An enemy falls into a volcano, gets burnt, but survives. Alvin the Treacherous falls into a volcano at the end of “How to Twist a Dragon’s Tale” when he tries to take the Fire Stone from Hiccup. Viggo falls into a volcano at the end of “Shell Shocked Part 2″ when he tries to take the Dragon Eye. Both enemies come back to fight Hiccup another day.
  • An enemy infiltrates Berk to learn information by pretending to be a friendly, common worker. Alvin the Treacherous pretends to be Alvin the Poor-But-Honest Farmer. Trader Johann pretends to be a foppish ally to the Hairy Hooligans. But both are seeking a more sinister gain.
  • The brand of a slave. Hiccup is marked as a slave in the book series. In Race to the Edge, the dragon hunters almost brand Hiccup on the face with what would basically have been a mark of ownership.
  • Hiccup fights with a sword. Hiccup spars with Inferno during Race to the Edge, and of course he has epic battles with Endeavor throughout the book series.
  • Potatoes. There are lots of hidden potatoes in RTTE. Potatoes are quite important in the books, naturally, and this is a silly call-out to that!
  • A gladiator ring with dragons. In “Stryke Out,” dragons are forced to fight one another in the ring. In How to Speak Dragonese, Hiccup, Camicazi, and Fishlegs are part of a gladiator spectacle that involves dragons eating other dragons. 
  • Hiccup is pulled beneath sand by a dangerous dragon. Hiccup is pulled underground in How to Seize a Dragon’s Jewel by the Monster of the Amber Slavelands. Hiccup is pulled underground from a sandy beach in “Sandbusted.”
  • One of Hiccup’s closest companions will die unless a cure can be found from an impossible-to-find ingredient. There are marked similarities between the ideas of “Buffalord Soldier” and How to Cheat a Dragon’s Curse. In the books, Fishlegs is believed to be dying from the sting of a Venomous Vorpent. The cure involves finding a potato, a legendary vegetable that is not believed to exist by most people… and which is said to only be found in America by others. In the show, Astrid is becoming increasingly ill from the deadly Scourge of Odin. The cure requires the gang to find the Buffalord, a dragon believed to be extinct.
  • Hiccup and Fishlegs are best friends.
  • Hiccup gets kidnapped. This is the central plot of “Midnight Scrum.” Hiccup gets kidnapped as a child - mentioned in How to Fight a Dragon’s Fury - and he also has an unpleasant hostage situation with the Romans in How to Speak Dragonese.
  • More dragon species similarities. The Riproarer feels like the Cavern Crasher. The Grimoras feel somewhat like Nanodragons. The Snow Wraith feels a little bit like Sabre-Tooth Driver Dragons. Some fans feel like the Slitherwing looks somewhat like the dragon of the Slavemark.
  • Dragons hatching from volcanoes. The Eruptodon egg must be placed in a ceremonial location in the center of a volcano to hatch properly. The Fire Dragon also can only hatch from a volcano’s eruption.
  • Characters seeking out their fathers. Dagur and Heather search for clues of Oswald the Agreeable. Fishlegs spends the majority of the book series trying to find his family and home tribe. Both Dagur and Fishlegs receive disappointing news about their father’s status.
  • Vikings build inventions far beyond their time. Norbert the Nutjob creates a steamboat. Hiccup builds equipment that can take him to the bottom of the ocean.


  • Eret’s brand versus the Slavemark.
  • Northern non-Viking tribes. The Northern Wanderers from the books could be compared to Eret’s people, the Sami.
  • Stoick jumps in front of a deadly shot to save Hiccup’s life. Stoick jumps in front of an arrow to try to save Hiccup’s life in How to Cheat a Dragon’s Curse, somewhat akin to how Stoick jumps in front of Toothless’ blast in How to Train Your Dragon 2.
  • Hiccup’s butt-kicking mothers neglecting parental duties through quests far from home… quests that their son ultimately fulfills. Valhallarama constantly quests away from Berk to find the King’s Things rather than spending time with her son. In the end, Hiccup collects the King’s Things. Valka leaves Berk entirely to protect dragons. She is not there to raise her son. In the end, Hiccup becomes the chief of Berk, the link between humans and dragons this world needs. In the end, both mothers realize that they have spent too little time with their son when he was growing up, and end up supporting him in his heroic endeavors.
  • Dragons that change color by mood. The Hobblegrunt changes its color depending on its mood, just like the Mood Dragon.
  • Sea dragons that breathe ice. The Doomfang is a giant Sea Dragon with a freezing breath. The Bewilderbeast is an enormous “ice spitter.”
  • Toothless shields Hiccup from an enormous dragon. In HTTYD 2, Toothless jumps in front of the Bewilderbeast’s ice blast and shields Hiccup last-second with his wing. In How to Fight a Dragon’s Fury, Toothless jumps in front of Furious to shield Hiccup. It’s to note that even the Bewilderbeast and Furious have parallels!
  • A chief sacrifices himself to save Hiccup… and Hiccup goes on to become leader. In How to Fight a Dragon’s Fury, Hiccup’s cousin Snotlout had become chief of the Hairy Hooligans before dying to save Hiccup. Hiccup’s father Stoick in the movies dies to save his son.
  • Villain!Valka versus Furious. The initial script for HTTYD 2 pitted Valka as an antagonist who believed that humans and dragons could not live together in harmony, so she attacked Berk and waged war against humans to free the dragon species. She commanded an enormous, behemoth Bewilderbeast in her fights - the King of all Dragons. Sound familiar? Furious is an enormous, behemoth dragon - the King of all Dragons - who wages war against humanity and attacks Berk because he believed that humans and dragons could not live together in harmony. Even the Valka that appears in our final HTTYD 2 bears similarities to Furious. She still does have the mentality humans and dragons cannot coexist in peace.
  • Drago and Drago’s Bewilderbeast versus Furious. Drago ultimately still has a lot of the same parallels to Furious that villain!Valka does. He commands an enormous dragon army against Berk with the King of all Dragons. Drago + his Bewilderbeast fill somewhat similar roles to Furious in the books. 
  • A potential three way war. The original plan of HTTYD 2 has some interesting set-ups that seem parallel to the final conflict in the books. In the books, there is a three-way war between dragon-friendly humans, dragon-hating humans, and human-hating dragons. In HTTYD 2, Valka was going to be pro-dragon and anti-human life Furious; Drago was going to be pro-human and anti-dragon like the Alvinsmen; and Hiccup was pro-human, pro-dragon like he is in the books. The reason I say potential three-way war is that it’s said Drago was going to be brought up, but not necessarily fleshed out or built upon in the original second movie drafts… the main battle scenes we see of the early storyboards are all seemingly between Berk and Valka.
  • The Red Rage versus the Bewilderbeast’s control. The dragon kings lead dragons in a mind-altered stated. The Red Rage causes dragons to angrily attack humans. Drago’s Bewilderbeast can control dragon minds - even to the point of dragons attacking their friends. Book!Toothless falls under the Red Rage briefly, and of course DW!Toothless is forced to shoot at Hiccup.
  • Berk is attacked and destroyed. Furious’ dragons blaze Berk down in fire. Drago, Furious’ equivalent, sends his Bewilderbeast to Berk. The village is wrecked by the dragon’s ice. 
  • Becoming a Hero the Hard Way. Both stories are about Hiccup becoming a Hero the Hard Way. Hiccup becomes a chief in HTTYD 2, while in the books, Hiccup becomes King of the Wilderwest. Both of them are initially unwilling to take up this leadership role, but ultimately fulfill it. And both Hiccups’ ideal is to create a world where humans and dragons live together in peace.
  • Hiccup is shown to be the one, unique individual who can fulfill the leadership role of his people. Hiccup is prophecied to be Grimbeard the Ghastly’s Heir in the books. Valka in the movies says, “You have the heart of a chief and the soul of a dragon. Only you can bring our worlds together.”


  • Reference to Old Wrinkly. Old Wrinkly’s Cauldron is available for sale in School of Dragons.
  • Wartihog, Speedifist, and Clueless are residents of Berk. Several of Hiccup’s classmates from the books are NPCs in School of Dragons: Wartihog, Speedifist, and Clueless.
  • Dragon species. The Devilish Dervish and Windwalker are dragons available to hatch and ride in School of Dragons.
  • Hiccup’s far-traveled ancestor. In School of Dragons, Stoick is mentioned as having a great-grandfather who traveled far and wide. His great-grandfather in the books, Grimbeard the Ghastly, is someone who definitely sailed great distances. Furthermore, the family name is called the “Horrendous Haddocks.”
  • Rise of Berk introduces the Green Death.
  • The comic book “The Legend of Ragnarok” is about the Purple Death attacking Berk. Not only that, but Hiccup makes a reference to the dragon sleeping thousands of years under the sea. The Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus dragons (including the Purple Death) slept underneath the sea for thousands of years before coming to Berk’s shore in the first book.
  • The comic book “The Endless Night” introduces a female sorceress villain. Skuld doesn’t have much in common with Excellinor, but it is still to note this similarity.
  • How to Train Your Dragon 3 will be about the dragons disappearing, Hiccup making a choice that will affect humans and dragon’s future, and Hiccup actualizing as a leader. The books are of course about the dragons disappearing, Hiccup trying to unite humans and dragons, and Hiccup becoming King of the Wilderwest.

anonymous asked:

I noticed Hiccup often shut himself away to think, or when he doesn't know what to do. Your thoughts? :)

I feel as though this gives some interesting insight into both his thinking process and his comfort discussing these sorts of topics with the others.

Hiccup is capable of making decisions on the fly. This is, in truth, one of the traits that makes him a strong leader. Hiccup is able to quickly assess challenging situations and make on-the-spot decisions that successfully ward off danger. Some quickly-brewed Hiccup plans include faking a fight with dragons during “The Terrible Twos,” solving the riddles in “Portrait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man,” tossing aside their shiny metal items to get rid of Smothering Smokebreaths in “Breakneck Bog,” using spoons and Smokebreaths to defeat the Berserkers in “Smoke Gets in Your Eyes,” trapping the skrill in ice during “A View to a Skrill Part 2,” and… well… we could just keep going. The point of the matter is, while not all of Hiccup’s spontaneous decisions are smart choices, a good number of his ideas come out of tight situations. He does not need to seclude himself in a room to think of a plan.

But Hiccup still is an introverted individual and a thinker. Even if he can make quick decisions and is sometimes a rather impulsive personality, there are other times where Hiccup likes to spend time alone carefully considering a challenge. It seems that when Hiccup wants to seclude himself to think through a problem, it’s often one that is actually bothering him.

Hiccup believes in teamwork and encourages team interactions. But he often seems to want to struggle through his worst problems himself. This might draw from his past: as a young teenager, Hiccup was not a popular individual. He was mocked by his peers and not understood by his father. Some of his choices, like trying to fight dragons when he was not ready, or even befriending a dragon, would have been met with distaste from others. So Hiccup had to handle these challenges himself, in private, secluded, alone.

It was alone that Hiccup created his contraptions to fight dragons.

It was alone that Hiccup constructed Toothless’ new tail fin and saddle.

It was alone that Hiccup decided to leave for the Isle of Night to find more Night Furies.

It was alone that Hiccup, frustrated with Viggo’s recent victory, decided to scout out hunter ships… and crashed on the island where Dagur was living.

It was alone that Hiccup flew up to Itchy Armpit to handle the recent conversation he had with his father… about becoming chief.

Lots of these events show Hiccup when he is being confronted with something that is bothering him emotionally. Of course when he has to make decisions on the fly, he doesn’t have the chance to give himself secluded. But when he is experiencing a problem that isn’t immediate danger, it’s not always the case he goes into isolation to think. But it seems when something is seriously bothering Hiccup, that is when he gives himself the space. I almost wonder if it’s not just that he needs to think… but that Hiccup needs private time to emotionally handle a sensitive topic.

During “We Are Family,” Hiccup is rather upset about the lack of Night Furies. It’s been an ongoing problem, not to mention one that hits close to home. The fact that Toothless seems to lack family or biological individuals with whom he can relate is something to which Hiccup can relate. Of course during this incident, Hiccup’s reasoning is that he needs to protect his friends from hostile Night Furies. That is true, so this is not the best prototypical example of what I’m talking about… but it is one instance in which Hiccup handles a problem privately, completely to himself.

Other events show Hiccup distancing himself for problems that are emotionally sensitive. These are issues that he could talk to with others, but very often chooses not to. Hiccup struggles emotionally regarding Viggo. He feels terrible after the “fiasco” at the end of RTTE S2. However, Hiccup does not use the full support network of his team to track down Viggo; there are definitely times where Hiccup spends time with himself, or even goes out on missions by himself, because he is emotionally fighting this problem about Viggo. Hiccup needs some time to think about Viggo to himself. He is problem-solving how to beat Viggo, of course, but he’s also working on a problem that eats him up inside a little more than usual. We certainly see Hiccup more out-of-sorts regarding the Viggo dilemma than him interacting with many other dangers in his life.

Hiccup certainly leaves to get privacy at the start of HTTYD 2. Hiccup does not bother to show up to the dragon racing game; he flees Berk and finds a very private area far from home. When Astrid finds Hiccup, it’s clear that Hiccup has left Berk to clear his head about Stoick’s suggestion he become chief.

Also, as you point out, these times when Hiccup distance himself are when he doesn’t know what to do. Hiccup often knows what to do. It’s why he acts very quickly or impulsively. He gets an idea and acts on it fairly quickly. But there are times when ideas do not come upon Hiccup. He seems to be a bit insecure about this, when he doubts himself the most, and when he is the most disturbed about the event.

Support through Understanding: One Reason to Love the Relationship between Hiccup and Astrid

Back in 2010 when I first encountered the world of “How to Train Your Dragon,” I honestly cared very little for the relationship between Hiccup and Astrid.  I felt it was little more than a mutual childhood crush that lacked substance since the two of them shared little common ground.  What did a high-achieving, ever-determined belligerent warrior have to do with an insecure, societally-scorned, artistic blacksmith?  By HTTYD 2, however, watching the clips of the two of them interact on the cliff side, my opinion of them had grudgingly, drastically changed – they are absolutely adorable together!  The reason Hiccstrid is NOTP no more for me is because I mis-assessed the start and common grounds of their relationship.

I am going to be talking about “relationship” in a broad sense – it does not matter if we call it platonic or romantic, and frankly, for the first few years Hiccup and Astrid were on good terms with one another, I feel it was largely platonic.  But no mind how you yourselves consider it, the relationship between Hiccup and Astrid is something to be loved.  One of those reasons I particularly love it is because, yes, under the surface, they do have quite a bit in common, and that affects their interactions with one another into a meaningful, supportive, mutually understanding partnership.

The Need for Validation

There is no question teenaged Hiccup needed validation.  He charged off to fight dragons because he desperately wanted to fit in with the other Hooligans as a dragon-killing Viking.  In fact, one line suggests Hiccup even stooped so far as to become a Boy Who Cried Wolf Dragon, making up stories of him encountering dragons to try to validate his role in Berk society and especially impress his father.  “It’s not like the last few times, Dad,” Hiccup protested as Stoick pulled him away from his latest mess, “I mean I really, actually hit it!”  How many times did he claim to hit something when that never happened?  How many times did Hiccup run off royally screwing up situations by charging into battle against his father’s orders?  How many times did Stoick have to save his son because something went wrong?  We do not know for sure, but it is quite apparent it was a painful trend for Hiccup to pull these ridiculous and ever-unsuccessful stunts.

Astrid seemed to be his opposite.  Self-confident.  Physically fit.  Brave.  Successful.  Attractive.  Surrounded by the other Viking teens.  She was everything Hiccup was not.  Astrid in part probably appeared attractive to Hiccup because she seemed to be exactly the type of Viking Hiccup hoped to be.  She was the exact model of an ideal Viking to Hiccup – strong, bold, fierce, athletic, and capable even at her young age of confronting and killing dragons.

But I didn’t feel like that could make a strong bond between the two of them.  If anything, that made them more mismatched.

What I was missing was Astrid’s backstory, which we finally learn in Defenders of Berk.  The writers always planned a backstory for Astrid which explained her extreme competitiveness and desire to best everyone else in Dragon Training.  It turns out that her backstory sheds a whole lot of light into her relationship with Hiccup.

For she needed validation, too.

Different Approaches to the Same Insecurity

There are many reasons why Hiccup and Astrid bonded together, and Astrid’s changing views of Hiccup can be explained simply by watching HTTYD without any other information, but what made me finally hop on board with Hiccstrid was learning about their common emotional ground.  Hiccup and Astrid both felt the need to validate themselves.  Their differences were not so much in how they felt, but in how they approached their insecurities differently.

Hiccup cumbersomely blundered through mistake after mistake, becoming an outcast of Berk society.  Astrid never appeared to be an outcast – on the contrary, “popular” peers like Snotlout made sure to hit on her – but that does not mean Astrid felt fully comfortable with her role on Berk.  In “Fright of Passage,” we learn Astrid’s uncle Fearless Finn Hofferson froze up when confronting the Flightmare, making him and his clan the laughingstock of Berk for a long time.  She even went so far as to shout “my family name was ruined by that dragon!”  Astrid wanted to be the best at killing dragons because of that family embarrassment.  She needed to prove that this young Hofferson girl truly was a fierce warrior, someone who would never freeze up at a sign of danger.  We see no greater proof of her insecurities than when she announced to Hiccup, “I’ve waited my entire life to clear my family’s name, and nothing is going to stop me.”

Thus, Astrid and Hiccup are a lot more alike than they might first seem.  Whereas Hiccup became a “loser” in his peer group and (initially) Dragon Training class, Astrid might have been considered a success story – but her drive to success was based on a similar feeling of insecurity. 

They actually always had a lot in common.

Support through the Struggles

Astrid’s ability to support Hiccup through the difficult parts of his life suddenly makes a lot more sense.  After her first flight on Toothless, Astrid questioned Hiccup’s decision to keep the location of the Red Death’s nest a secret simply because he wanted to keep his “pet dragon.”  But when Hiccup determinedly answered, “Yes,” Astrid respected his resolve and stepped on board with him.  She could actually empathize with him at this point – she saw some area in which Hiccup was finally confident in himself, and being as she underwent some of the same struggles herself, was going to support that resolve rather than continue questioning Hiccup about it.

Similarly, when Hiccup watched the Viking warriors sail away to fight the Red Death, taking Toothless away from him on a ship, Astrid was all about supporting Hiccup.  And for all she was a fierce warrior and you would not expect her to know the right thing to say, Astrid spoke the exact words Hiccup needed to hear to get him on his feet again.  And because she was all about self-empowerment and giving herself the toolset to overcome her insecurities, she did not “give” Hiccup the answer to go after Toothless, either.  She encouraged Hiccup.  Made him see his “failure” for not killing Toothless as a strength.  She asked him questions about what he was going to do, allowing him to jump to his own decision to “do something crazy.”  It gave Hiccup a boost in self-confidence and a greater sense of conviction.  She knew he needed that.  It was how she had been trying to bolster herself, and it was what she would probably want someone to do to her in turn during her darker moments.

The trend to support Hiccup continues through the television series.  I could go through so many episodes, but I will mention just one.  “Portrait of Hiccup as a Young Buff Man.”  You can tell Astrid believed the treasure hunt was absolutely stupid.  She even celebrated when Hiccup took the map from Fishlegs, Snotlout, and the twins because she though he was going to talk them out of finding the treasure.  However, as soon as Hiccup started pouring over the riddles and joined the quest, too, Astrid got on board.  Why?  Because Hiccup had just complained to her about how his father didn’t fully accept him, and he said that finding a treasure even Stoick the Vast couldn’t would be one way to prove himself.  She said she would still give Hiccup trouble about his decision “every step of the way”, but yet again, she understood his need to be validated, and thus hopped on board for the treasure hunt.

We even see patterns with Astrid’s early kisses.  Most of the times Astrid kissed Hiccup are after Hiccup accomplished something she considered commendable.  She loves and supports him for his successes.

By the time of HTTYD 2, then, it is no wonder Hiccup outright confides in Astrid about his reluctance to chief.  She has already been a huge support for Hiccup for five whole years.  When Hiccup tells Eret he can convince him to appreciate dragons, Astrid vouches for Hiccup and calls him “very persuasive.”  And in the other instance Hiccup really needs comfort? (euphemism)  She’s right there on his shoulder the entire time.


I cannot think of near as many examples of Hiccup supporting Astrid in turn, possibly because Astrid is much less outwardly vulnerable and possibly less willing to talk about her insecurities.  However, we can still see some evidence of Hiccup reciprocating support.  In “Heather Report Part II” when Astrid, disguised as Heather, left for Outcast Island, Hiccup expressed clear concern for her safety.  He showed he was confident in her ability to complete the dangerous mission, that he believed her to be the strong woman and warrior she had always sought to be.

“Fright of Passage” was the most obvious instance in which Astrid’s insecurities took the forefront, and I wish I could write much more about it. Alas, space is brief, and I’ll only briefly comment on it for now (and it’ll be a bit of a ramble - sorry).  Hiccup was quite sensitive to Astrid’s feelings and tried to quiet Snotlout, the twins, and Fishlegs from bringing up a touchy subject that could hurt her.  He didn’t want her to feel insecure and have people either intentionally or unintentionally rub at old wounds in her life.  Here then is concern and support.

Still, it’s interesting to note Hiccup actually approached Astrid differently about her insecurities than she did to him.  Whereas Astrid made her opinion clear but hopped on board with Hiccup’s ideas, here Hiccup outright tried to stop Astrid from pursuing the Flightmare, even trying to hide information from her such as when and where the dragon would appear.  I suppose from some angles that could be quite critique-worthy, but it also shows Hiccup was intentionally trying not to ignite Astrid’s fire and need to prove her clan.  In fact, he even pointed out some way in which she could be empowered and prove her family bravery without running off recklessly after the dragon – by staying in Berk and fighting off the dragon with the team.  Still, when she did hop on Toothless and assert her will, Hiccup did fly with her, telling her to observe the Flightmare and not fight it, but nonetheless paying heed to her interests (you can tell he knew she was going to try to fight it anyway).  Not to mention, it’s also clear he wanted her safe.  He was trying to prevent her from making an action that could throw her into an enormous amount of trouble.  And he even eventually got on board with Astrid’s plan to halt the Flightmare before it reached Berk.  So there is concern, support, and a bit of sensitivity on both sides of the party. 

The two of them are indubitably there for each other.  Always.  There’s sensitivity, there’s support, there’s mutual understanding.

Strong Bonds

This relationship is strong and secure for so many reasons.  They have a common interest in dragons.  They’re able to tease each other and enjoy lighthearted times together, such as in the start of “Animal House.”  They’re able to stand up for each other and fight for the other’s safety.  And they’re able to stand up emotionally for one another as well.  It’s not just a simple gushy romance - though the romantic element is strong - but it’s also about being equals who understand and stand by one another. 

There is so much more that could be said and has been said (such as that amazing gif post comment about Astrid making Hiccup look her in the eye when he tries to look downward), and all of it shows what an incredibly supportive relationship this is.  It’s not just a small little crush.  It’s not just kisses and cuddles.  It’s not a mismatched pair.  There’s empathy and genuine concern for each other.  It’s a deep relationship and it’s beautiful.

And that’s why I cannot help but smile at Hiccstrid.

anonymous asked:

Hello! I fell off the Dragons train about a year ago, but I ended up binging the last three seasons of RttE and wanted to scream about it with the most welcoming member of the fandom! I love Hiccup so damn much. For so much of his life, he was the "useless" kid, and I wonder how much that still affects him despite his growth? In Wings of War, Hiccup's being driven primarily by the conflict between his ideals and his father's, but do you think it's also a chance to *prove* his ideals? (1/2)

(2/2) Like, he feels he can’t afford to fail because it would invalidate the new side of himself he’s found? (Losing his father wasn’t really enough to convince him he was wrong in Httyd2, so maybe his beliefs run deeper than I’m giving him credit for…)

Yes yes yes! Let’s scream about RTTE!Hiccup together because I am stoked about this season! And I love what you have to say here so much.

I do think you’re right. I do think there’s something important to Hiccup wanting his ideals to be proven, to show that his beliefs are correct to his father. Hiccup wants to show Stoick that his beliefs and ideas are valid and useful. He wants to show that he can be successful.

Even in HTTYD 2 times, we can see that Hiccup has some hesitance about who he is because he isn’t like his father. He has some insecurities because he’s not like his father. It’s really telling in his quote from the funeral…

“I was so afraid of becoming my dad. Mostly because I thought I never could. How do you become someone that great? That brave? That selfless?”

 Hiccup wanted to try to prove that he could be someone great during episodes like Portrait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man. I do agree with you that Hiccup wanting to show Stoick that his training with dragons and peaceful desires can be good solutions exactly so he can show his father his worth. Hiccup and Stoick have come a very long ways. A very, very, very, very, very long ways. But I agree… Hiccup still carries that “useless” kid syndrome in places in his soul. <3

Invalidating the “new side of himself he’s found” is another really good point. We can see in RTTE that Hiccup doesn’t want to give up his life of searching for dragons, studying them. He’s not comfortable with the prospect he might have to put that behind and focus on becoming chief or doing other adulthood-related tasks. Hiccup doesn’t want to invalidate his new side just so he can keep feeling increasingly secure about his relationship with his father. I bet he doesn’t want to invalidate his new side because, if that is taken away, he’s even more lost about where to head next in life.

voltronluvr5  asked:

How exactly did you feel about Hiccup's badass-ness this season? Especially him PUNCHING OUT SNOTLOUT WITH ONE HAMMER PUNCH OMG I'M STILL NOT OVER IT!

I loooooovee how Hiccup was depicted in Race to the Edge in terms of his skillset fighting. I know some people say his action scenes seem unreasonable. For me, I think it makes a whole lot of sense and fits in nicely with all we have seen in the DreamWorks Dragons universe. On top of that, it’s just fun to see - everything from him doing some cool action moves, to him knocking out three of Snotlout’s teeth with a single punch. As dorayaki-chan mentions so nicely, it is nice to see the small details of Hiccup growing from a wimpy little kid to a strong young man.

Growing Strength, Growing Fight Skills

Hiccup has been developing his strength and fighting skills for a long time. They have been growing naturally, slowly, almost undetectably at times, since the first movie. At the start of the first movie, Hiccup cannot pick up a single axe or sword without considerable effort. It is a humorous exaggeration, but it still proves the point that this little kid does not have a high muscle mass. Even though we see him holding an axe later on in the movie, it’s still nothing impressive that he can do.

We also see very clearly in the first movie that Hiccup does not know how to fight. He scrambles around haplessly during dragon training; he struggles to even hold an axe and shield at the same time. Therefore, what we see out of the first movie is that Hiccup does not have much strength, and he is not skilled as a warrior.

Riders of Berk demonstrates Hiccup with some physical improvements, but it still focuses on him being a wimpy kid. Alvin the Treacherous mocks Hiccup for his tiny size, and Hiccup feels down in “Portrait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man” because he knows he is not the strong son Stoick wanted. When Hiccup spars with Astrid in “Gem of a Different Color,” he stands no chance; she disarms him immediately and pins him to the ground. Gobber seems to expect this will happen; he does not instruct Hiccup on how to fight back, but simply on how to handle this situation the best he can. He congratulates Hiccup for playing dead and Astrid for doing good form. When Hiccup tries to attack an Outcast guard with his peg leg in the season finale, it does not do that much damage. Hiccup still is not that physically strong and everyone knows it.

Note, however, Hiccup is subtly starting to pick up a few skills. He is considerably better at dragon riding. He is able to complete skills that he was practicing (and failing at) in Gift of the Night Fury. And, as you point out, riding dragons is physically demanding. The animators even point out in “The Art of How to Train Your Dragon” that they wanted to show it was demanding (I imagine it’s far more physically demanding for the core than the arms, though). Hiccup is becoming better at riding Toothless and doing tricks on the dragon; thus, we know he is gaining strength.

Even beyond that, look at “Thawfest”. It still pegs Hiccup as physically less strong than the others. Lugging sheep is easy for basically everyone except Hiccup, who can barely carry one woolly animal on his back. Everyone else can throw an axe fine, but Hiccup cannot get enough strength to hit the target. Notice, however, that even though he’s shown to fail, there is improvement. Hiccup could hardly lift an axe in the first movie. Now, he can throw it. He’s not as good as the others, but Hiccup has already improved from barely holding an axe, to holding it in the middle of HTTYD, to being able to somewhat throw it in ROB. His fight against the Outcasts in “Defiant One” also shows that he has become better at fighting.

His skills and strength grow even more in Defenders of Berk. I’ve jokingly called him “Captain Berk” for a reason because of his stunts with the shield, which is admittedly lighter than other Viking shields, but it’s still solid wood (I own a full wooden shield that I use for cosplaying Hiccup… it gets HEAVY after you carry it for some time). Hiccup even becomes increasingly better throughout the season with fighting and using the shield. By the end of the season, Hiccup is able to defend himself very well against Speed Stingers and Outcast warriors. Hiccup holds a sword with ease and is even able to throw his shield an impressively long distance. He has grown in strength, and his increasing experience fighting against enemies like Dagur and Alvin has made him a better fighter. I wholly imagine he’s receiving combat training from  warriors like Gobber, but his skills are taking off because of situations, too.

Then we get to Race to the Edge. By this time, Hiccup and his team have developed a lot of flight skills. They are very talented on their dragons and have exerted a lot of physical energy. Hiccup has received more combat training and he’s been through a number of harrowing situations with real enemies. He has been working in the shop with Gobber on his own projects, proving him strength to his arms. This kid is a blacksmith, a dragon rider, and quite the active adventurer. It’s no wonder that Hiccup, though skinny, has a lot of strong, lean muscle underneath his shirt sleeves.

I consequently love Hiccup’s “badassness” in the second RTTE season in terms of his strength, fighting moves, and physical strength. It’s depicted in a very fun way. It’s not unreasonable given the progression we’ve thus far seen. He’s slowly been growing stronger, and we have reasonable context and explanation for why he’s got muscle and some fighting skills. Hiccup does some fun, flashy moves, but it’s just one step beyond what we saw in Defenders of Berk. Hiccup is progressing steadily as we have seen him do. It connects the dots from HTTYD to HTTYD 2. By the time of HTTYD 2, Hiccup is a physically fit young man. If you watch the deleted scene between him and Eret, he’s actually not too bad off in a fight against someone who’s a dragon trapper and consequently has been in skirmishes himself. Let’s also not forget how well he handles himself during the Battle of the Bewilderbeast!

Hiccup’s Punch in “The Zippleback Experience”

I cannot say how much I LOooOOvE this moment. I could chat and laugh about it forever. Here, I’ll just comment on how it displays Hiccup’s expected strength, and whether or not Ruffnut and Tuffnut’s reaction was realistic given that they did not predict him to knock out Snotlout.

Hiccup’s companions have watched him grow in strength. At times, they probably still think back to him being the wimpy little kid who could barely hold an axe. It wasn’t too long ago, in some respects, that they first entered Dragon Training together. And since Hiccup has lean muscle that is not very visible, it might be easy to underestimate his strength. 

Ruffnut and Tuffnut should know that Hiccup could pack a punch. They know he’s a blacksmith. Snotlout, for that matter, should have some idea of Hiccup’s strength; they work together with Gobber. Still, I imagine that all three of them forgot when the twins staged the fight between Snotlout and his cousin. You’re right that no one knew Hiccup could do that, but they should not have forgotten he had some physical strength behind his skinny frame.

You’re right, senfree, that the reaction Ruffnut and Tuffnut display isn’t outwardly explosive. Maybe, in some ways, it seems underwhelming, and I really understand how that interpretation is seen. The twins don’t jump up and exclaim, “WHAT?!!” They moreso stare, looking at the scene, and ask one another, “Who knew he had it in him?” Then they go off and have a conversation at regular voices about what to do next, rather than even focusing on the fact Hiccup knocked Snotlout out. Even then, I suppose I don’t find the reaction fully underwhelming, even with that.

What I see the twins show is a bit of dumbfounded surprise and disappointment that their plan did not work. There are times people are surprised enough at an incident that they don’t know how to properly react. Ruffnut and Tuffnut are going through this sort of reaction; it’s hard for them to process what they have seen, therefore, they aren’t going to jump up and shout in loud, astonished voices right off the bat. Many people can be extremely surprised and yet only respond with widened eyes and staring at what is going on. I feel that is sort of what is going on with the twins here. They are surprised, eyes wide and staring at the event, but they’re surprised enough that they don’t exactly know how to verbally react. 

It catches them off-guard. Ruffnut and Tuffnut were gearing themselves up for a situation in which Snotlout got roasted by Barf and Belch, Hiccup being “saved” by the Zippleback in a humorous spectacle. They did not get what they anticipated. Because it was so far off from what they had been gearing themselves up to see, they didn’t know how to react. So their reactions were numbed, delayed, baffled. As I see it, the very fact that Ruffnut and Tuffnut didn’t shout out actually speaks to the fact they are surprised. 

All Ruffnut can say, in a somewhat soft, amazed voice, is, “That was incredible.” She doesn’t usually speak in that sort of a soft, wispy voice. She is legitimately astonished, so I suppose I don’t think that their reaction is underwhelming. I also think that the following conversation the twins having, sounding slightly subdued and sad, shows that they realize this event’s outcome means they’ve “lost their dragon for good.” That alone is going to put a damper on their emotions and their emotional reaction to Hiccup’s punch.

This scene is probably one of the greatest moments in How to Train Your Dragon history. It is hysterical. I *LOVE* Hiccup’s knock out punch. It surprises not only Snotlout, Ruffnut, and Tuffnut, but it astonishes audiences as well. All things considering, we should have seen this coming. We should have known that Hiccup was strong, but we often think about him as the scrawny little kid, too. It’s a hysterical scenario, with beautiful dialogue, beautiful action, beautiful execution. I’ll never be able to get over this moment, either. I still laugh incredibly hard about Tuffnut’s comment, “Unfortunately, we weren’t expecting Thor’s mighty hammer to meet Snotlout’s paper jaw.”

anonymous asked:

Hi! As many of us would agree, flawed characters are the best kind of characters, and an easy way to give a character flaws, is to give them a vice. In a modern HTTYD setting, what kind of vice would you give Hiccup, Astrid, Snotlout, Fishlegs, Ruff, and Tuff?

To be honest, I see no reason why we have to change the weaknesses that the characters have from the canon world! We can give them the same flaws and vices they have in this AU, too. It provides character consistency and allows us to recognize Hiccup, Astrid, and the gang for who they are… no matter whether we’re writing them in the Viking Era, the Victorian Era, or the year 2015.

So I am going to answer the question as: “What sort of vice do Hiccup and his companions display?” and then chat about how that would manifest in a modern HTTYD setting. I’m going to be pretty broad about how I define a vice so that I can stay true to their characters.

Snotlout: Arrogance

Snotlout is the opposite of humble (in how he acts, if not how he feels). He brags all the time and tries to make himself look stellar. We see that all the time in the canon universe. In the first movie, he talks about how he only missed hitting Stormfly because the sun was in his eye. In the television series, he’s always trying to hit on Astrid, and often does so by being rather complimentary of himself. Snotlout’s angers Hiccup in “Thawfest” because he won’t quit bragging about all his competition metals. Snotlout has a tendency to be a bit prideful in how he acts.

I imagine it would look much the same in a modern setting. Snotlout would brag to Hiccup about his accomplishments - maybe in sports like American football or hockey. He would flirt with Astrid, kiss his muscles, and act as though he were irresistible. If he completely fails in some athletic capacity, he’ll make excuses like, “My shoes were untied, Astrid! What do you want me to do, go tie my shoes? I could do that, but I don’t have time right now!” 

Ruffnut: Callousness

You can also talk about how Ruffnut and Tuffnut are idle characters who don’t like to do much, or about how neither of them are trustworthy, but I figure that “callousness” is an interesting trait to talk about with Ruffnut. It’s not something I believe I have discussed before on this blog.

I want to preface this by saying Ruffnut isn’t always callous. “Free Scauldy” is a clear instance in which she cares for the injured Scauldron. Ruffnut does have sympathetic capabilities, and we do see them on occasion. Nevertheless, there are also many times where you can tell Ruffnut just doesn’t care, and she can find entertainment where others might feel pity. I don’t want to make her sound like a heartless devil - she’s definitely not - but Ruffnut is not someone who explicitly acts by conscience as much as some of the other characters.

It means that Ruffnut in a modern HTTYD setting might just let some bad things happen. She’s not going to stop situations if Hiccup gets bullied or Astrid starts haranguing Snotlout. Ruffnut will have no qualms pulling pranks that might make others upset with her. But she never regrets the hilarious spectacles that ensue from her mischief.

Tuffnut: Discourtesy

Okay, but really, Tuffnut is not a polite young man. He says what is on his mind, and frequently, that’s not exactly something that should be said. In the first film, he remarks, “Your butts are getting bigger. We thought you were a dragon,” to the girls. When he’s older, he has the audacity to rub Snotlout’s romantic pains in, unkindly telling Snotlout, “You can still jump,” when they watch Ruffnut flirt with Eret. That is more than a little discourteous.

He’s also more than a bit of a trickster, so you could call him a deceiver, too. Tuffnut intentionally manipulates Fishlegs and Snotlout in bad directions while they try to gain Ruffnut’s attention. Tuffnut isn’t a conniving liar all the time, but he does have the ability to deceive, too.

There doesn’t have to be a big change talking about Tuffnut in a modern HTTYD setting. I imagine that Snotlout and Fishlegs will try to hit on Ruffnut when they’re college freshmen, and Tuffnut will do his job screwing both of the men over. Snotlout will follow Ruffnut around and even wait outside the bathroom, telling her she smells nice as soon as she leaves. She’ll probably try to bury him in snow for a couple of hours. And if the group of friends ever go outside to play volleyball together, Fishlegs and Snotlout will clamber to be on her team so that they can “win together.”

Fishlegs: Cowardice

I don’t like calling Fishlegs a straightforward coward because he honestly does demonstrate bravery in some pretty significant instances. However, Fishlegs is someone who tends to be more nervous than others and more willing to back down and escape situations rather than confront them. He’ll be someone in a modern AU who might try to find the easy way out and avoid confrontation. This is someone who can worry about anything and will likely worry about anything.

Fishlegs is the least likely person to leave home and enter the convenience store after dark. Frankly, though, that’s not the worst way to go. But there will be other times his worries make him a little bit too reluctant to do things.

Astrid: Irritability

I think Astrid’s actions toward Hiccup in the first HTTYD movie say it all. If that doesn’t say it, all the times she shouts at Snotlout and shoves him around should get the point across. Astrid is an easily irritable character. In a modern universe, it’s not that hard to see her grab Snotlout and push him into the lockers a time or two, or to get angry and throw down her textbooks in rage.

Hiccup: Self-Doubt

There are lots of flaws that I could talk about with Hiccup. It’s hard to describe a “vice” for him in the more standard sense of the term, but I do think “self-doubt” is a big problem he experiences, and that’s a notable character flaw. Hiccup does not believe he is a valued member of Hooligan society in the first movie. In the second movie, he doesn’t believe that he has the skillsets required to be chief. Episodes like “Portrait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man” showcase his uncertainty and discomfort with his identity.

It is very common for youths to question their identity when they are teenagers and young adults, and we’ll certainly see that happen with Hiccup in a modern HTTYD AU. He will be someone who won’t have many friends in high school, but will frequently find himself alone. Even as a younger kid he’ll be bullied and considered a social pariah. The poor kid will feel left out and sit down in the halls by himself for a lonely lunch. It’ll come as a shock to him when he finally becomes popular and others acknowledge his talents and worth.

thepotatoreader  asked:

Howdeedodeethere! This ask is to talk about Race To The Edge, season three. I have not yet watched the whole season, but I have noticed at least two things that suggest that the writers have still taken things from Cressida Cowell's books! One, Snoutlout seems to be talking and listening to Hookfang in Stryke Out! Is there Dragonese in the "Dreamworks Dragons" universe? Two, there is a Riproarer-like dragon in the Fireworm episode! A riproarer! (Ah my old nemesis, character limit!) [1/2-3]


One of the things I love best about the DreamWorks Dragons television series is that they bring in a lot of book-inspired elements. I myself don’t think that there is any Dragonese in the DreamWorks franchise, but I definitely feel like the inspiration for dragons, characters, and events gets some inspiration from the books!

For fun, I figured I could try to write out a list of some book elements we see in the DreamWorks movies, comic books, television series, and larger canon! I would love to see if people have more Easter Eggs or theorized Easter Eggs that they notice, too!

Note that I will have spoilers for all the books in the series and all episodes of RTTE in the list below.

How to Train Your Dragon

  • The first movie has the general plot structure of the first book and is clearly inspired from it. It is the story of a young boy who trains with other youths his age in the ways of his tribe. By completing training, he can do a rite of passage and demonstrate he is one of the tribe. However, he fails this rite of passage and is cast out of the tribe by his father. Then an enormous dragon threatens the village. Hiccup leads the other youths to defeat the dragon. Ultimately, his own dragon Toothless saves his life and guarantees victory before he gets eaten.
  • Tuffnut, Snotlout, Fishlegs, Gobber, and Stoick are all book characters. Gobber remains the teacher of the students and Snotlout remains a bit of a cocky, self-important nagger against Hiccup.
  • Astrid is inspired off of Camicazi, a bold blonde female character with great fighting abilities who is close to Hiccup and owns a dragon named Stormfly.
  • The design of the Terrible Terror is based off of book!Toothless.
  • Several dragon species from the books have made their way into the movies. The Gronckles are very similar in design. Monstrous Nightmares are far larger in the movies than the books, but you can see the inspiration. Deadly Nadders are different in design, but we do have Nadders in both worlds! The Red Death, is, naturally, inspired by the Red Death (and Purple and Green Deaths) from the books.
  • Hookfang is a Monstrous Nightmare from the books. He is Stoick’s dragon, but Snotlout still has a Monstrous Nightmare in the books, too.
  • Hiccup is left-handed.
  • Gothi the elder is the movie’s version of Old Wrinkly.
  • Spitelout was initially planned to take on a larger role in the first movie. Given as Spitelout is canonically Snotlout’s father in the movies, he is always badgering Stoick in the television series, and he was expected to be a larger role in the first movie, it seems like Spitelout can be equated to Baggybum the Beerbelly.
  • Even the number of generations that have lived on Berk in the movies is not too different from the number of years Hairy Hooligans have lived on Berk in the books.
  • There is a historical book about dragons which the Hairy Hooligan tribe reveres, despite the fact it is incomplete about how to handle dragons.
  • Fans have commented on how the Viking statue guarding Berk in the sea has a one-horned helmet similar to book!Hiccup’s.

Riders and Defenders of Berk

  • As seen in both Gift of the Night Fury and various episodes in the television series, the dragons’ eggs explode. Dragons’ eggs explode in the book series, too, as is mentioned in “How to Train Your Viking” and “The Incomplete Book of Dragons.”
  • The presence of Alvin the Treacherous and the Outcast Tribe is a clear inspiration from the books.
  • The Berserker Tribe is another tribe from the books.
  • Dagur the Deranged has some similarities to Norber the Nutjob, another chief with a wild sense of unpredictability but a lot of underlying intelligence.
  • “Portrait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man” has a lot of book-like elements. It shows Hiccup insecure about how his father regards him, showing that Stoick sometimes gets carried away with ideas of his son as a stronger, more “typical” Viking. We also learn that Hiccup has an ancestor in the past, Hamish the Second, who was a runt… just like Hiccup in the books learns about Hiccup the Second and Hiccup the First.
  • Snotlout and Hiccup constantly bicker. It evokes a lot of the bickering that occurs between Snotlout and Hiccup in the books, especially when we learn in “Defiant One” that Snotlout is jealous of Hiccup. That is the motivation for Snotlout acting unkindly to Hiccup in the books. But, in the end, Snotlout and Hiccup make up when Snotlout does a bold, heroic action.
  • Fishlegs writes his own poetry and sings songs. Fishlegs in the books wishes to be a bard and writes his own (terrible) poetry.
  • Dragons often have similar abilities as those in the books: for example, Changewings are dragons that can turn themselves perfectly invisible, like multiple species from the books.
  • Hiccup gets a small, obnoxious, green dragon that will bite people on the nose. Sharpshot the Terrible Terror is a whole lot like book!Toothless.

Race to the Edge (I will mark S3 spoilers with crossed out text)

How to Train Your Dragon 2

How to Train Your Dragon 3

  • The dragons disappear :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Video Games

  • Old Wrinkly’s Cauldron is available for sale in School of Dragons.
  • Several of Hiccup’s classmates from the books are NPCs in School of Dragons: Wartihog, Speedifist, and Clueless.
  • The Devilish Dervish is one of the dragons available to hatch and ride in School of Dragons.
  • In School of Dragons, Stoick is mentioned as having a great-grandfather who traveled far and wide. His great-grandfather in the books, Grimbeard the Ghastly, is someone who definitely sailed great distances. Furthermore, the family name is called the “Horrendous Haddocks.”
  • Rise of Berk introduces the Green Death.

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anonymous asked:

Do you think Hiccup still suffers psychologically from the time stoick disowned him (post-httyd)? I see signs of it in rob and dob. He seems extremely uneasy whenever he lets his dad down, even in the slightest of ways.

Oooo yessssss he still suffers indeed. Thanks for the really great question!

Insecurities with Father (Post HTTYD 1)

I do indeed believe Hiccup struggles post-HTTYD with insecurities about letting his father down. I believe it comes from a long history of disappointing Daddy, though, and not just from the disowning. The disowning is the crown of it, but Hiccup’s actions in ROB and DOB come from a long history of uneasiness. In HTTYD, after all, Hiccup spends a large portion of the movie attempting to act in such a proper Viking way so as to receive his father’s approval and affection. This has been an ongoing battle for many years.

Of course, the disowning is going to be remembered vividly as the lowest point between himself and his father. This memory will not fade away. This one will stick out and really hurt. This moment, plus many years of feeling like he is a disappointment to his father, makes Hiccup sensitive to his father’s feedback.

After all, if Hiccup has lived years expecting his father’s scowl, even when Stoick begins to show grins, Hiccup will still be prepared for more negative reactions. Hiccup could worry he will do something to reincur his father’s historic disapprobation, or, as I especially think, he is SO USED to receiving Stoick’s bad side that he psychologically does not yet fully expect his father’s good. It takes a while for someone to actually be able to psychologically grasp such a fundamental change as that.

“Portrait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man” is one of the clearest examples of Hiccup’s lingering insecurities. He goes out on a treasure hunt in a desperate attempt to prove himself to his father, doing something even Stoick the Vast could not accomplish himself. “Thawfest” is another instance where Hiccup is influenced by his father’s pride. Sure, Hiccup really wants to win against Snotlout for personal reasons, but he also feels the pressure when Stoick suggests Hiccup might win this year. In fact, when Hiccup decides to throw the race, he murmurs, “I’m sorry, Dad.”

I could keep going. Hiccup brightens up very visibly, eyes glowing and back straightening, whenever Stoick gives him a compliment and says he is proud of Hiccup. Hiccup will make comments suggesting it’s the norm to be scorned, such as saying his father has “looked angry since the day [he] was born.” And, as you say, Hiccup feels horrible whenever he lets his father down. That occurs in Riders of Berk, Defenders of Berk, and also “Dawn of the Dragon Racers.” The first time I watched Stoick return to Berk early and call Hiccup down for disobeying his orders, I was cringing as much as Hiccup was. The entire short Hiccup struggled with whether he should follow his father’s desires or fall in to the wants of the crowd. You can tell the main reason Hiccup tries to keep the boat race afloat (pun intended, XP) is because he wants to make his father proud. So when he is revealed to be disobedient… it hits him really hard.

The disowning might be over. The worst of the rude treatments might be over. But Hiccup’s head is not yet over this when he is sixteen years of age. He knows from the recent past what it is to feel a father’s wrath to the point of him saying, “You’re not my son,” and he will instinctively go about cringing for some time.

Hiccup does get better about the insecurities. A LOT better! By HTTYD 2, the sting of his father’s disowning and all the other unkind acts Stoick once exhibited no longer take the forefront in Hiccup’s mind. In fact, he is able to speak jokingly about his father’s pride. That says an enormous deal! However, there are still some scraps of that insecurity, and it comes to the forefront during Stoick’s Ship. Hiccup expresses doubts he can be the chief his father wanted him to be. Part of this is in recent context with his failed Drago confrontation, but it also shows a very ongoing theme of him doubting his father’s pride. You also see it when Valka says that Stoick believed Hiccup would grow to be “the strongest of them all” - for Hiccup first frowns and then widens his eyes, showing he is shocked his father had that faith in him as a baby. This shows Hiccup still carries around with him, tucked away in some corner of his mind, those unpleasant teenaged years, those memories of growing up with a disappointed dad.

So yes. I believe Hiccup still suffers from these pains post-HTTYD 1. The disowning itself is going to hit on him along with every other negative parental interaction. It is an enormous deal, and not a pretty one, either. That disowning and poor treatment would psychologically sting for anyone for an incredibly long time.

anonymous asked:

Do you think Hiccup has ever seen Astrid cry during those five years and what do you think are the possible situations that could have brought that on (head canons or whatever) visa-versa for Hiccup.

I very well imagine Hiccup and Astrid both have seen each other cry. Their relationship is deep, and we do see them open up to one another and speak of personal issues. For instance, Hiccup is very candid speaking to Astrid in “Portrait of Hiccup as a Young Buff Man” regarding his insecurities with his father.

My two most prominent headcanons for when each of them cry actually take place during the time of the first movie. Astrid’s tears likely come multiple times after Hiccup has lost his leg. She has been in conflict before and likely seen others downed or severely injured… but this is with a peer, someone on whom she has a crush, and that will hit her. Her first tears, of course, will come when Hiccup is still completely out of commission and not conscious of her reaction… but I would not be surprised if, later, shortly after the events of HTTYD 1, Hiccup and Astrid sit down and talk. The conversation turns to the Red Death battle. Astrid describes for the first time to Hiccup how everyone reacted when he fell from the sky… how scared they all were… how scared she was… how everyone thought Hiccup had died… how even when they found him alive in Toothless’ arms, there was still the uncertainty he would make it through. That would be enough to spill a little bit of water from her eyes as she recounts that day and realizes how stressful and painful the entire battle was. 

The biggest time for Hiccup crying is going to be right after Stoick disowns him. Stoick slams the door on Hiccup, staring shocked and pained, on the floor… and then the story cuts forward. We do not see Hiccup’s full reaction when the door shuts and he is left to himself.

No one can tell me he did not cry at that moment. Hard. Right there on the floor.

Astrid comes in halfway through. She has seen Stoick step out of the Great Hall and announce they are attacking the Dragon’s nest… but she sees no sign of Hiccup leaving the hall. Stoick’s angry disposition and Hiccup completely disappearing worries her. She carefully steps toward the Great Hall while the other Vikings are preparing for battle… and as soon as she peeks through the doors, she sees Hiccup there on the floor, red-faced, sobbing.

There will likely be other moments either of them cry in front of the other. “Fright of Passage” shows that Astrid has some insecurities about herself and her family’s honor. I imagine that one day those insecurities will hit hard when she is alone talking to Hiccup, she will start crying, and Hiccup will comfort her. Hiccup, in turn, might break down around sixteen for his continued struggles gaining and understanding his father’s approval… or, in more dramatic situations, around the events of “We Are Family” and “Cast Out.” Once Hiccup is rescued from the Outcasts in the former, he might cry, realizing what was done to Toothless and himself in full, and Astrid would see that. In “Cast Out,” Dagur threatens to execute Stoick. Hiccup handles it with a very grim determination on screen, and maybe he indeed was so attentive to the situation at hand tears did not leak out… but there is a potential for him there, too, to wet his eyes from the strain.

The relationship between Hiccup and Astrid grows tremendously during the five years, and one area that builds significant growth is being able to show each other personal struggles. Astrid is more likely than Hiccup to try to bottle something up, but given that in HTTYD 2 Hiccup and Astrid know how to respond to each other at the low points in their life, we can assume they have been there comforting each other before.