one of my favorite homestuck fandom moments was when aranea decided to ease up on gamzee’s mind control a bit and he started screaming obscenities so she shut him back up and all these ppl were like POOR GAMZEE HE IS SUFFERING so somebody on my dash legit went and translated his dialogue word-for-word from juggalo slang and he was literally just screaming about her tits
About the earlier question about Feferi using Eridan, I also think the fandom says Feferi is a bitch and she seems so nice?? Do you know why some people would think that? (Btw, thank you all for being so awesome and answering questions! :3)
i think all you really have to do is look at all the homestuck females and then look at all the homestuck males.
all the homestuck females get so much more shit than the males do. feferi is seen as a bitch, or as boring. terezi is seen as a bitch with no complex thoughts or empathic morals. vriska is seen as just a bitch, despite the fact her moral character arc was so much more clearer/explicit than terezi’s. nepeta is seen as a defenseless little girl who only exists to bumlick karkat and try to kill terezi. kanaya is a boring lesbian. aradia? who?
jane is a bitch. rose is a frigid bitch. jade is a stupid baby who needs protecting by dave. roxy is actually ok because she doesn’t get in the way of my dirk/jake shipping, unlike that bitch jane.
and then karkat? oh well he used some slurs and treated people like shit at points but he’s a precious baby. eridan kills feferi and aims to be as much as an asshole as possible in destroying anyone coming out of the beta session alive? that bitch feferi made him, my poor precious baby. gamzee is canonically abusing a female with some proof that he is aware of it and not ‘mindlessly’ being controlled? he’s a precious baby. caliborn is a misogynistic piece of shit who verbally abuses jane? he’s a precious baby look at him with daddy gamzee!!!
females are treated like fucking shit in this fandom. homestuck has a lot of faults but hussie actually writes amazing women—it’s just the fandom who come across and fucking massacre these women who don’t hate each other as much as the fandom want them to. these women CANONICALLY don’t need a single fucking man to defend them, and yet they’re downplayed to that.
feferi is a fucking badass who wants peace and love but isn’t gonna get stepped on in the process. she chose loyalty to her friends over her own survival, and poured her fucking heart into relationship with sollux. not to mention how well she got on with everyone else.
she made mistakes sure, but so does everyone and she made 200 less mistakes than karkat, gamzee, eridan, caliborn, kankri, kurloz and almost every other male character you can name.
yet who is the one who gets the most shit for it? fucking feferi.
and, who is the one who is selfless when it comes to her own life and saving all these fucking male characters above? mother fucking feferi peixes.
I have such mixed feelings for Gamzee, on one side I hate him for all the killing he has done but on the other hand he must have gone through hell, being mind controlled all the time, stabbed, shot, slashed, beaten etc.
I was mentally composing another snarky post criticizing how Dave knows Gamzee is dangerous, knows he’s no longer Karkat’s moirail, and knows Terezi is neither God Tier nor in good shape, but when he sees her challenging the super deadly murderclown he just flies off like ok sounds good have fun. But as I was organizing that post, I started thinking about the fact that lots of people know better, or ought to, and they don’t do much of anything.
I’m not sure how much I can criticize Karkat and Kanaya since I’m not sure whether they can reach the two - trolls’ capacity for physical feats varies - but currently they’re standing around with weapons out yelling at him, which isn’t super helpful but is at least better than most of the others.
Jane was just attacked by Gamzee herself, and she observes Terezi attacking him for a while with a vague interest before moving on. She seems to regard it almost as entertainment.
JANE: Observing this tomfoolery for several minutes has been time well spent. I have no regrets whatsoever.She doesn’t do anything else.
Jake is right there
and despite his ideals of action heroism and chivalry, he doesn’t do a thing to stop Terezi’s blood from being smeared all over the concrete. He does cover his eyes though, because I guess it’s unpleasant to watch or something. When he does take action, it’s merely saying
JAKE: Pardon me… JAKE: Sir jester? JAKE: I dont know what this masked bandit has done to deserve such a throttling… JAKE: Something sufficiently felonious i presume? JAKE: But it is hard to imagine she has not been punished enough and then some. JAKE: Perhaps you could um… JAKE: If its not much bother… JAKE: See to… JAKE: Unhanding the lady? JAKE: Maybe?
He addresses Gamzee honorably and assumes Terezi is the one at fault. Plus, he (weakly) asks him to unhand her when he’s currently holding her dangling over lava. Nice one, Jake.
Rose dithers for quite some time, wondering if it is cultural differences, like that would make it ok. Finally, she says
ROSE: I don’t care if it IS some sort of grisly courtship ritual. ROSE: THIS HAS TO STOP!
but the fact that her spell misses makes me think she wasn’t completely committed to her course of action.
Basically, these characters are watching a male beat a female nearly (?) to death and most of them don’t lift a finger. With Dave’s casual assumption that she can handle herself, Rose’s concern as to whether this is something she should interfere in, Jake deciding that Terezi must deserve it somehow… I’m wondering if this is supposed to be a statement. Whether or not it’s meant that way, I’m reading it that way.