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I follow Five Lying Bitches on Instagram, and she posted a question someone asked her that was very interesting:

According to Marlene Lying King, Mona was original A, Charlotte became Big A when she met Mona in Radley, and someone else became A.D when Charlotte died. 

So exactly how did Charlotte kidnap Sara Harvey the night Alison went missing and put her in the Dollhouse?….

Is this just ANOTHER plot hole? 

Lets explore a few possibilities that could explain this:

  1. There has been ONE Uber A since the beginning of the show who has controlled all the other A’s. Uber A had the Dollhouse built at the beginning of the A Game. He/she kidnapped Sara Harvey that night because she looked like Alison, and kept her prisoner all those years. 
  2. The character we know as Sara Harvey is actually BETHANY YOUNG. She was never a prisoner in the Dollhouse. She was working with A the entire time as Red Coat. They switched the dead girls dental records, the dead girl is the real Sara Harvey. They devised a plan that if the Dollhouse was ever found by the police, Charlotte would take the fall as “Charles/Big A” and Bethany would pretend to be Sara Harvey to protect her identity and say that Charlotte kidnapped her. Uber A would escape and continue the game. 
  3. This is just another GIGANTIC plot hole. The writers seem to not know their story as good as the fandom. If not explained, this one could potentially be the biggest one yet.

This is just another reason as to why I have always believed that there has been ONE Uber A in charge of the game the entire time. The story will NOT make sense if this isn’t the case. Charlotte obviously did not build a Dollhouse and kidnap Sara Harvey on that night. She wasn’t even involved in the Game at that point, and was in Radley. It is completely impossible

Final questions…

If that was REALLY Sara Harvey, who the heck kidnapped her, WHEN did they kidnap her, AND WHY? 

If it is not Sara Harvey, who is she?? Why was she found in the Dollhouse? What is her motivation for being there? Why was she helping Charlotte?

"When life gives you lemons"
  • ⚠️Part 2⚠️
  • Hanna:make lemonade
  • Aria:takes pictures of the lemons
  • Spencer:the lemons are A
  • Emily:dates the lemons
  • Alison:gets kidnapped by the lemons
  • Caleb:Ask the lemons if they want to move to New york
  • Toby:Arrests the lemons
  • Ezra:write a book about the lemons
  • The moms:Make wine
  • Mona:Get obsessed with lemons and start stalk them for years
  • Jenna:I don't see the lemons
  • Sara:teach the lemons to shower
  • Paige:drown the lemons
  • Tanner:you've crossed the line, young lemon
  • Mr. & Mrs. Dilaurentis:Put the lemons in Radley
  • Charles:kidnapping the lemons and puts them in a dollhouse
  • Everyone in Rosewood except Charles:who took my lemons?
  1. Cece attended high school in Rosewood, she was the fucking prom queen for god’s sake!
  2. Cece knew Alison was alive all along, she was one of her helpers and she even was red coat with her!
  3. Cece dated her brother? 
  4. Sara, a VERY irrelevant character, is both RED COAT&BLACK WIDOW
  5. Wilden would have not been that age back then, he would have still been a teenager basically. So how is he already a dirty cop.
  6. Why would Cece have a visitor’s pass to visit Mona, if she was already a patient, and why did Wren give it to her
  7. The liars who have been her main target, are actually irrelevant to the whole thing?
  8. Marion was ALIVE when Ali&Toby were teenagers, and she’s supposedly pushed off of the roof when Charles was a child?
  9. Why would Ian have killed himself (This was said in an interview by Marlene)
  10. Why was Jessica nice to Bethany and took her riding if she knew what she did to her child
  11. How could Cece go on a vacation with them, spending the SUMMER out and sleeping outside of Radley, LIKE C’MON
  12. Wasn’t Cece supposed to sneak inside Radley and pretend to be Alison… SHE LIVED THERE? WAKE THE FUCK UP MARLENE
  13. If the soul room, is what it is a SOUL room, why would a trans-gendered woman use her male name to identify herself?
  14. Didn’t Lesli say that Charles/Bethany were friends and escaped Radley together on the same night? Which can’t be bc Charles would have been Charlotte at that point and she and Bethany were NOT friendly
  15. Jason saw CECE there at that night, and she was speaking to Melissa, why would she say that it’s Bethany then?
  16. Why would Sara throw years of her life, not being with her family and friends, basically having NO life just to torture a few teens that she hasn’t even met
  17. A is supposed to have been there since the very start, Cece wasn’t
  18. how was Cece able to complete her transition over night, inside a mental hospital in which everyone thought she was dead? The surgeries, the medication, how did she do it overnight
  19. Didn’t Spencer say that Charles felt familiar, like a childhood friend or something.. Also Charles in the dollhouse is bigger and taller than spencer, while cece is clearly not. And body doubles are supposed to be identical
  20. Why did Cece go after Alison if she was her beloved baby sister? why did she put her in jail recently

things I want, and more importantly need

  • A full run episode of the night Ali went missing. Who did what, who was where, where everyone was in the missing blanks.
  • Ezra’s book as an actual physical copy (written by the writers as Ezra) or Sara Shepard?
  • Another book with clue and hint explanations, each and every one, as many as they can explain (even theories, like why they used so many mirrors for Aria, the split personality, I mean if that answer doesn’t come to light by the end) + which “A”/A team member” did what jobs throughout the seasons.
  • Somehow, someway, re-shoot all the A ending scenes, but with A’s face/s. I want to know which A did what, and when, also why
  • Ali flashbacks from when she was on the run
  • Who killed Charlotte and why
  • Who killed Jessica and why
  • Who’s Charlotte’s father
  • Who’s Spencer’s father? It is Peter?
  • Since we already know Spencer’s Mary’s daughter, why Jessica wanted Bethany to call her “Aunt Jessie”?
  • Did Jessica do that just because she had something with Bethany’s father?
  • Why did Bethany draw Jessica’s at her house? How did she know how her house was? I mean, the drawing is exactly the same as Jessica’s house.
  • Why were Noel and Aria’s file stolen from the bunker before the fire? WHY ARIA’S??
  • Why was Noel helping Charlotte? Since when?
  • How long has been Jenna helping Uber A?
  • Who wrote “He’s going to kill me -M” at the dollhouse closet? Who’s M? Maya, Mona, Melissa? And who is “he”?
  • For how long was Sara Harvey helping Charlotte? Since she disappeared?
  • At Radley (6x10) and in Season 7, Sara tells Emily she was always trying to protect her. From Charlotte? From Uber A? But if she was, why she still helped Charlotte?
  • What were Melissa and Charlotte talking about THAT night?
  • And why Charlotte/Cece was wearing the yellow top?
  • For how long Charlotte knew she was a Drake? She used the Drake name for her “Cece” identity.
  • Who were Wren talking with on the phone in 4x10?
  • Why was Wren painting a family drawing with a brunette hair red coat?
  • Why was Wren so shady visiting Mona at Radley?
  • And since Charlotte was a patient, why Wren gave her a visitor pass with the name CECE DRAKE? HE KNEW?
  • Why was Wren shady?
  • Mona was high on drugs so she didn’t recognized Charlotte but she created a plan to escape sometimes?
  • How the blood did get to Spencer’s bag in London? It was Wren or Melissa?
  • Who were part of the original A-Team? Just Toby?
  • If Wilden was paid off from the beginning, then why the fuck was he trying to solve Alison’s disappearance for all those years?
  • What Maya knew?
  • Where’s Eddie Lamb? Why he disappeared like that? 
  • Why Eddie Lamb recognized Aria in Radley?
  • Did Aria went to Radley instead of Iceland?
  • Does Aria know her brother is now a werewolf?
Bethany and Charles=Bonnie and Clyde

Come on, is it really a coincidence that they share the first letters of their names?



Bonnie and Clyde were in love and were also partners in crime. He was more of the leader and she helped him. Most believe that she helped him because she loved him. 

Let’s look at the facts: Bethany and Charles were both in Radley together at the same time. Some argue that they have a 6 year age gap and couldn’t have been in love, but come on. Aria and Ezra have a 6 year age gap and nobody denies their love for each other, so let’s not use that excuse. 

We now know that Charles never really died and stayed at Radley until the night when Ali disappeared, at which point Charles and Bethany BOTH escaped Radley together (the call Mrs. D got in Ali’s flashback which caused her to tell Ali to stay home; she knew that Charles and Bethany together were dangerous).

Aren’t convinced of the connection yet? The number of confirmed people that Bonnie and Clyde killed? 9 people.

How many people did the PLL trailer for 5x25 say died on this show?

So Charles and Bethany were in Ali’s back yard that night. As we can see in next week’s promo, the person who hit Ali with a rock was clearly a guy (we see a male hand holding the rock). I think that their plan was to run away together. Charles had already faked his death with his mother’s help at age 16. But Bethany hadn’t done that yet, and she wouldn’t get help from Mrs. D like he did. So their plan was to kill two birds with one stone (pardon the pun). Charles hated Ali and was jealous of her for the life that she lead. She was also a young blonde like Bethany. So he orchestrated it so that Ali would be left a yellow top like Bethany’s. Ali was meant to look like Bethany, not the other way around. 

He hit Ali over the head with the rock with the goal of burying her and having people think that it was Bethany. But Mrs. D caught him and knew it was Ali, so their clean getaway became very messy. The next plan was to find another Bethany replacement. They chose Sara Harvey, they killed her, and they buried her there. 

There was just one problem: they were seen. Four pretty little liars were drugged by Ali that night and although they’ve repressed the memories, they were there. Ali told them they remember more than they think from that night. 

Charles and Bethany hid out and watched over the liars as Mona took her revenge on them. When Mona was sent to Radley, Charles snuck Bethany in as red coat to meet Mona and steal the game from her for the two of them. And then they took on their new identities. Bethany was the Black Widow and Charles was Big A. 

He got himself a new identity and she kept herself hidden with the black veil when she went out in public, like to Wilden’s funeral or when she was at the lodge fire (as we can see by the burnt Ali mask that black widow was wearing once).

Finally, they decided it was time for her to play a more active role. So when he captured the liars, he put her in the dollhouse with them and had her pretend to be Sara Harvey, the girl that they killed in her place. 

And with his new identity, he became a doctor named Wren Kingston. Under his new identity, he was able to access medical information. He got engaged to Melissa Hastings with the goal of getting closer to Spencer and also manipulating Melissa, who he knew had buried Sara Harvey for him. 

He was at the hospital for many injuries, including Emily’s stomach ulcer and Toby’s fracture. 

He worked at Radley when Mona was there, granting permission to visitors and angering Eddy Lamb. He was also at Radley when Spencer was there. He seemed to be absolutely everywhere. 

Bonnie and Clyde were eventually caught. They were caught and killed together. That’s why I’m convinced that if Charles is alive, so is Bethany. They’re going to die together. 

"When life gives you lemons"
  • Hanna:make lemonade
  • Aria:takes pictures of the lemons
  • Spencer:the lemons are A
  • Emily:dates the lemons
Can you imagine

How successful Pretty Little Liars would’ve been if Wren was A and had great motives. Melissa was BW but secretly helping the girls and endgame. And CeCe as RC doing shit for Wren?
And then we find out what evil shit the girls really did to deserve all this. And then finally in the time jump, we see all of our favourite ships married, Emison, Haleb, Ezria, and Spoby, and they’re all happy and successful in life and A gets actual help and he also will have a happy ending whether it’s with the love of his life or just living in a peaceful place and doing nothing evil.
This is what we were rooting for.
This is how PLL should’ve ended.
This is TV show goals.
This is everything goals.
This is reality.
This is good writing.
This is success.
This is abcFAMILY.

Am I the only one that thinks A hit Ali that night to take her to the dollhouse.

A wasn’t planning on Mrs. D seeing what happened so when Mrs. D buried Ali it ruined his plan. So he took Sara Harvey the next day (Sara was last spotted one day after Labor Day) to be his “Alison” in the dollhouse.

A is Charles DiLaurentis, who later transitioned to become Charlotte DiLaurentis, whom we’ve known for years as CeCe Drake.

Black Widow is Sara Harvey.
Red Coat is also Sara Harvey.


Who killed Ian? (Season 2, Episode 4)
MARLENE KING: Ian killed himself but Mona staged the note and the crime scene.

Who was responsible for killing Garrett and putting Aria in a box with his dead body? (Season 3, Episode 13)
Wilden. Garrett found out that Wilden was a dirty cop and was going to tell. [Wilden] was acting on his own.”

Who shot Ezra when he showed up in New York to protect the Liars? (Season 4, Episode 24)
That was Shana.

Who killed Wilden? (Season 4, Episode 1)

Who nearly killed Jason in the elevator at his father’s apartment building? (Season 3, Episode 19)
That was Charlotte. When Charlotte gets mad, she sometimes acts out in very strong and harsh ways. I don’t think the intention was to kill Jason. It was definitely an impulsive act of revenge.

If Ali saved Hanna from the Thornhill Lodge fire, who saved the other girls? (Season 3, Episode 24)
Sara Harvey! And the person who set the fire was Shana.

Who drove a car into Emily’s house? (Season 4, Episode 7)
That was Charlotte, [but] to quote Charlotte, “Nobody got hurt.”

Who kidnapped Emily, put her in a coffin, and chained her to a sawmill conveyer belt? (Season 4, Episode 12)
That was Charlotte. The PLLs were getting close to discovering Charlotte’s identity at that time, so that was a real “listen to me” kind of a moment.

Who blew up Toby’s house? (Season 5, Episode 5)
That was Charlotte. She was very mad. [Laughs] But no one got hurt! [She has] perfect timing. She’s a genius.

Who was responsible for kidnapping Mona and faking her death? (Season 5, Episode 12)
That was Charlotte.

Who knocked Jenna unconscious and left her to drown? (Season 4, Episode 9)
That was Charlotte because Jenna knew Ali was alive. That’s something we have not discussed on the show so that’s totally new information.

Whose body was in the barrel that the Liars found in a storage unit (and originally thought was Mona’s )? (Season 5, Episode 16)
Charlotte stole a cadaver from a medical school.

Who put snakes in Spencer’s dressing room? (Season 3, Episode 11)
Oh, Charlotte. Charlotte was very busy. [Laughs]

Who put finger bones in the girls’ wedding dresses at the fashion show? (Season 4, Episode 23)
Charlotte. I think Charlotte wanted you to think they were Bethany’s bones, but Charlotte has access to bodies and bones. Medical school corpses is what she has used occasionally on the show.

Who hit Bethany over the head?
That’s Mona. Melissa buried Bethany alive but Mona bashed her in the head with a shovel.

Who hit Ali over the head?
Charlotte, thinking she was hitting Bethany.

Who left a message in Hanna’s teeth? (Season 4, Episode 17)
Charlotte. That was very invasive, very creepy.

Who murdered Jessica DiLaurentis? (Season 4, Episode 24)
That is still a mystery. That’s the one thing we don’t solve when we give you all the [other] answers. But Charlotte buried Mrs. D.


This photo is from set today. 6x17
Who is this girl in black? At first I thought she was Troian (Spencer) but then I realized that Troian is the one that’s wearing a red skirt.
This girl look exactly like her.
Is she one of the crew? Or the infamous #TwinTheory ????



On the left is a shot I took (from a paused Netflix screen so excuse the quality) from 4x20. This scene is where the girls try and trick Ezra into showing up at Ambrose Pavilion but before Spencer could show up this blonde shows up. THATS FREAKING SARA HARVEY!!! CHARLES MUSTVE SENT HER OUT ON A MILLION DIFFERENT MISSIONS TO DO HIS DIRTY WORK!!! This is such a huge find, I can’t wait to hear it actually confirmed that he let her out to do specific tasks!!

Torture Flashbacks, Clothing Comparisons and A’s continued surveillance - 6x01 & 6x02

-In Emily’s flashback, we can see that she pushed Spencer’s button. (she pushes button on her right, which we saw was Spencer)

-Aria apologizes to Spencer (I’m assuming for shocking her) and Spencer says, “For what?” …hmmm… I don’t think Spencer was playing dumb here… 

We can see here that Spencer pushed Aria’s button. Spencer believes she shocked Aria. Spencer either didn’t really get shocked, and thought she did all the shocking, or just doesn’t think Aria needs to apologize, because Spencer knows she pushed Aria’s button as well.

-I think they all experienced somewhat specific individualized torture, designed for their particular weaknesses. They all look pretty bad in those polaroids. But I don’t think the girls themselves were always shocking who they thought they were shocking. Charles was in charge of that. 

-and Hanna seems to have gotten the worst of it. She doesn’t seem to even want to look at the other girls.  A has always seemed to hate Hanna the most.

And actually 2 different camera shots in 6x02 made me think Hanna is still being monitored, if not all the girls. When you watch, notice the drastic change in camera view. It’s subtle but it’s there. Don’t these seem like surveillance shots?

-Charles played truth or dare with the girls (said Hanna), and all these other psychological games. Read about the Milgram experiment here

-This ties in with my Kahn Game post here

-I think that Charles may have shocked Hanna alot, despite who the other liars picked, just so she’d feel that the other liars loved her least.

-edit: ****(I do not think Hanna was “THE MOST TORTURED”  I’m saying I think “A” specified the tortures to each girl: to play on their different weaknesses.   I think part of Hanna’s torture, was to feel like she was the most tortured, for her to think her friends felt like she was the one who least deserved water, etc..
Again, she may not have been more tortured than the others, but she may have been led to believe she was more tortured.
Then again, maybe not. I’m just speculating…)*****

This is Aria’s big flashback in 6x02:

-Aria may not have been shocked (as much or at all). Everything since 5x25 has seemed off about her and her connection in this dollhouse. Her flashback was just not having a window.  Zero torture flashback from Aria. And she really does get hurt the least (the ghost train incident may not have been this same A) by Charles… This supports an Ezra, Byron, Jason, Mike or Andrew theory.

-I don’t think Aria is A, but what if something really different happened in her room? All the other girls doors closed and they started screaming before Aria even entered her room. (6x1)

-What if Aria was given information and/or extreme threats? Maybe Aria has been given instruction by Charles to help frame Andrew in exchange for “less torture and/or I won’t kill all your friends”  or something….That would explain how shady she’s being. (Or she really is A and all you Aria is A fans can gloat forever lol)

-EDIT: **** This also may just be Aria’s way of dealing, and claustrophobia is a real thing.  Aria has expressed her fear of small spaces before (When she meets The Great Charlemagne “I don’t do boxes”) ….Please know, I am not trying to hate on Aria, I just really want to solve this mystery, so I look at it from all angles. ****

I’m really intrigued to see more about what happened in the dollhouse.  What A’s endgame agenda was with this.. to pit the girls against each other.. Just make them submissive…I’m sure A has a reason.

Now,let’s discuss the clothes they were wearing when they came out of their rooms in 6x01 and the possible symbolic meanings behind them.

Here they are in 6x01 - a few pics

Now, possible meanings / similar outfits at different points in the past:

1. Aria and her pink hair and leather jacket, looked like how she looked before Ali went missing, when she had her 1st secret (dad kissing Meredith)

2. Emily was dressed in a Sharks outfit, reminiscent of her 1st secret (being gay) - she got her 1st A note in the locker room after swim practice. Also reminiscent of Paige / Paily

3. Hanna, in a flower shirt and pink jeans with a tear in the thigh. Her jeans are like those she wore the night her and Emily found Maya’s bag at the Kahn cabin, where she cut her thigh, and called Wren for assistance with stitches. Her shirt pattern is very similar to Jessica’s skirt in the Campbell Apple Farm family pic. ****EDIT: a fan suggested the cut on Hannas thigh may have a relevant connection to the scar on Alisons thigh - very insightful, as Hanna is the one who saw it first.***

4. Spencer is harder to place, but I think this is right. It’s pretty much the same outfit she wore “that night” that Alison disappeared but in 1x01 she wore a red argyle cardigan and in 6x01 its a blue argyle cardigan.

Was their clothing supposed to represent particular events? (lies, secrets,bad decisions) 

Or times they crossed paths with Charles? 

Or are they hints for the viewers to re-watch certain episodes? What do you think?

My ask box is open all the time, let’s chat PLL!

Theory: Charles’ Torture Vs. The Milgram Experiment (1961)

Hey guys, so if you don’t know much about the Milgram experiment it is a form of psychological torture. It’s a way to learn how to become obedient to your authority figure and in this case it is “Charles”. 

In the Milgram experiment it is kind of set up like this:

There is a authority figure (Charles) that will ask you a series of questions and in this case it is about the girls. You will select a button to respond to your answer. If it is wrong you will shock someone and hear them screaming. In the Milgram experiment no one is actually getting electric shocks but you never know with Charles, it might actually happen. 

Then after a series of questions the amount of volts increase and you will be more responsible for the amount of pain you cause on another person.

Remember Charles kind of wanted the girls to turn on each other, and this seems to be pretty affective.

Tell me what you guys think!