for some reason, pit bulls get shit on for being aggressive and “naturally violent”
yet the same is never said for chihuahuas and other lap dogs which routinely have aggression issues because of everything things “aww look at the leedle gwowling dog how cute is that~” and owners frequently don’t bother to train them how to behave properly and allow them to get away with aggressive behavior such as snapping at people.
Like, don’t get me wrong I love chihuahuas and other small dogs but they honestly get so many “free passes” on being aggressive or any other aggressive behavior despite the fact that bites and attacks from them can potentially as severe as a larger dog. They get “free passes” when they snap and bite at people, children, other animals, etc. because “they aren’t naturally violent”.
No singular dog breed is “naturally violent and aggressive” because they’ve been bred to work with and live with people, however, any dog can potentially have aggression issues for a number of reasons, including some of the more stereotypically gentle dog breeds such as labs.
my dog is NOT a pitbull, pit bull is not a blanket term for all bully breeds, there is one breed called a pit bull and that’s the American Pit Bull Terrier, They ARE majority dog aggressive, most bully mixes do have it in their genetics to be dog aggressive, you can not ‘train’ out aggression, you can only manage and train to reduce it, it really doesn’t matter if you ‘raise them right’ its in their genetics, you can’t train herding out of a herding dog, If you have what you think is a 'pit bull’ mix say bully mix instead, it covers all the bully breeds and doesnt add to breed confusion and screw up bite statistics.
What do you think of Hulk the pit bull and the media portrayal of him and his breeders? Just curious
Oh boy. Alright, I think I may end up being attacked for this post,
because I’ve seen that “Hulk” has quite a few huge following of
supporters and I have seen that they that do not particularly like it
when anyone criticizes the the dog’s breeders, but I will try my best
here, I will try to tread lightly so please bare with me, thank you.
The fact is, “Hulk” is not a Pit Bull. And it would be best if we all stopped referring to him as such.
For anyone not familiar with “Hulk”, he is the record holding “World Largest Pit Bull” bred & owned by Dark Dynasty K9s. This is “Hulk”:
Let’s start with his breeders, Dark Dynasty K9s , who have probably never even seen a real APBT/Pit Bull, and wouldn’t know one if one bit them on the face.
I am not going to demonize DDK9 as dog owners, because I suppose from their photos and videos that they must love their dogs, but what DDK9 is doing as breeders is an entirely different story.
DDK9 is doing is very irresponsible, unethical, greedy, actually, and
even detrimental to the image of the real American Pit Bull Terrier and
it’s potentially damaging to the millions of non-APBTs bully breeds that
are falsely labeled as APBTs. And because of the size of “Hulk”, this
could very well put mastiff-type breeds in the same boat as bully
“Hulk” is giving public the false impression that Pit Bulls are capable
of reaching 100, 150, 175+lbs.
A lot of what DDK9 does as
breeders raises countless red flags. The most immediate red flag is that
they do not even know how to spell the breed of dog they are supposedly
breeding. “Pitbulls”, really?
They advertise their dogs as “XL Pitbulls”, which are essentially just oversized American Bullies (or American Bully x mastiff-type mixes?).
In the pedigree of “Hulk”, you will see a “Razors Edge” dog listed by the name of “Razors Edge Payback is a Bomb”
highlighted in yellow, which is the ever so highly popular original
American Bully line commonly (& falsely) referred to as Pit Bulls.
And, also “Eddington’s Wanna Be A Whopper”
(shown below) with a controversial, sketchy history as either an American Bulldog or
mixed breed falsely registered as an APBT in the UKC & ADBA,
which you can read about here because I really do not want to delve into that.
Below are images meant illustrate the different sizes in this American Bully size chart, including the “Pocket”, “Classic”, ”Extreme”, “Standard”, and lastly the “XL” American Bully.
DDK9′s website does not include any of the important details about
their breeding program, I decided maybe we should give them the benefit
of the doubt…
And so I contacted DDK9 through email, asking
them if their dogs undergo any health screenings and evaluations, what
their standards are in breeding in terms of health and whether they aim
to breed away from certain health issues using screening results to
better their breeding program.
This is why it took me a
while to get to your question, because I wanted to give DDK9 some time
to respond to my email, and well it has been about four weeks now and I
have not yet received a response. But if they ever do reply, I’ll be
sure to post it.
DDK9 advertise their dogs as being “huge”, having “great wide chests” and that their dogs produce “monsters”.
DDK9′s sole goal is to produce more of these massive, oversized
American Bullies like “Hulk”, and I have just read that by breeding
“Hulk” within their own kennel they are working towards breaking his
current “record” as the world’s largest (fake) “Pitbull” at 175lbs with his offspring.
found that one of their breeding bitches in particular was bred twice
within a year under the age of two. With how enormous these dogs are,
it’s incredibly irresponsible and potentially harmful to be breeding
them before they have had time to fully mature, not to mention it was at
that bitch’s every heat. While this is just one example of premature
breeding, surely this is a common practice at DDK9, especially
considering their hurried efforts to prodce another record breaking”
“Pitbull”. There is no way that DDK9 is breeding responsibly or with the
health and welfare of their dogs in mind.
“Hulk” allegedly weighs 175 lbs, and is clearly overweight. Just look at this dog:
actually wonder if his breeders have intentionally packed as much
excess weight onto “Hulk” as possible, in effort to truly make him the “World’s Largest”?
The poor dog is probably one wrong step or hop away from blowing a
knee, and not to mention all the other health risks involved in canine
obesity, especially a dog of such a massive size.
Below is an illustration highlighting the ADBA’s standard for the American Pit Bull Terrier:
The American Pit Bull Terrier’s UKC standard calls for dogs/bitches
to weigh between 30 lbs and 60 lbs, and the ADBA calls for 30 lbs to 75
lbs, with 60 to 75 lbs being on the larger side which are few and far
between compared to dogs/bitches of smaller sizes. “The American Pit Bull Terriers is a small to mid-sized dog, an athletic breed with great physical ability.”
To compare to the above photos of “Hulk”, here are some photos of real purebred APBTs:
huge red flag about Dark Dynasty K9 is that they “train” their
“XL Pitbulls” in “protection”, in their own backyard (I cannot seem to
find their credentials in this area, or any titles their dogs have
DDK9 allows all of their dogs to freely socialize / interact with one
another, even sometimes including clients’ dogs that are boarded at their kennel / farm.
According to americanbullydaily.com, “Additionally,
he [Marlon Grennan, breeder] does not believe in separating each dog
whether they are in training or not. By removing any fences, physical
restrictions and barriers the dogs train and live together as a pack
that teaches them how to socialize with other.”
Real American Pit Bull Terriers / Pit Bulls more
often than not are known for exhibiting at least some degree of dog
& animal aggression, and with real APBTs it would be next to
impossible for a dozen Pit Bulls to socialize, interact and roam freely
without a fight breaking out. These are not Pit Bulls. And I am
media hype surrounding “Hulk” has only helped in giving his breeders
more reason to charge tens of thousands to half a million by exploiting
“Hulk” for stud services and his “XL Pitbull” puppies.
media surrounds anything canine related, it makes me terribly nervous,
especially when it’s about Pit Bulls, because it tends to be more
harmful than anything. When a dog bites, it’s the family’s once harmless
“pibble” mix, or in the case of “Hulk”, it’s misrepresenting an entire
breed and giving the public a false impression of what a Pit Bull really
According to www.peoplemagazine.co.za: “The
gentle giant is a doting father to his puppies and is even allowed to
play with the couple’s three-year-old son. “Hulk has shown the world
that when this breed is gentle and balanced, they can be the greatest
dogs in the world,” said Grennan.”
what “Hulk” and his breeders have done for the APBT breed is that they
have given the public an altered and damaging perception of the American Pit Bull
Terrier as a breed.
A lot of rescue organizations that specializes in bully
breeds, have even spoken out against “Hulk” and what his breeders are
doing, and have called for the media to stop portraying “Hulk” and his
breeders in a positive light.
By continuing to misrepresent dogs
like “Hulk” as Pit Bulls, it is seriously damaging to the APBT breed,
bully breeds, and to non-APBTs dogs, and just dogs in general,
especially when these same non-APBT dogs are involved in dog attacks or
are impounded at city pounds / animal shelters. And because of the
appearance of “Hulk”, this could be potentially detrimental to Mastiff
breeds such as the Cane Corso, Presa Canario, and other similar looking
breeds that may find themselves in a dog attack or shelter and are
mislabeled as Pit Bulls.
So, end point: “Hulk” is NOT a Pit Bull, so please stop calling him one!
Actually, it would be best if we stopped calling ALL non-pedigree bully breeds/mutts Pit Bulls.
Things I wish people who come in to the animal shelter understood
This is a Husky:
Pointy ears, thick but medium fur, tail often curls upward but not in a spiral/tight curl. Often has mask-like pattern on face, saddle-like pattern on back. Round but long muzzle. Might top out at 60 lbs. Coat is soft and fluffy, but not too long. Often has blue eyes.
This is a Malamute:
Enormous hulking beast with long fur, squinty dark eyes, tiny ears in comparison to its head and body, and a tightly curled tail. Pointy snoot. Weighs closer to 100 lbs. Coat is coarse.
This is a Shiba Inu:
Doge dog. May have this color variation similar to a Husky, but is very small- maybe 20lbs at best. Dainty little body, pointy nose, round but standing-up ears. Tightly curled tail that almost always shows you the underside. Looks like an oddly-colored fox.
Bonus– This is a White German Shepherd:
Square muzzle, short but thick fur, giant bat ears, and shaped like a normal German Shepherd. 50-75ish lbs. No tail curl. Hind legs slope back, butt may slope downward. Not a Winter Breed, not closely related to Huskies. Is not a Husky. Just because it’s white doesn’t mean it’s a sled dog.
You wouldn’t believe how many people come in looking for their lost Malamute only to have it be a Husky. (So of course we informed you over the phone that we don’t have a Malamute in Stray, this dog is NOT a Malamute.) Or people who think they have a Husky who actually have a White Shepherd, and vice versa. Or we had people surrendered their “Husky”, but it’s actually a Shiba Inu (probably pure bred Shiba, tbh).
It makes it a lot easier for us to help get your pup home to you if you know what kind of dog you actually have. If in doubt, ask a groomer, because they will definitely know.
Colombia approved a new law about "dangerous breeds", now everyone who have this kind of dogs have to have a special a registration and paid for permit to keep the dog, because of this many dogs end up being abandoned and being sacrificed! My best friend has a pit bull and she is the most adorable dog on earth! how can we prove that this breed are not really dangerous!
Well, my anonymous friend, firstly I can’t figure out whether you’re
talking about Colombia the country, the county or a city, so I can’t
look up your legislation.
Secondly, registering dogs isn’t in and of itself a bad thing. You might be disappointed that I’m not going to tell you what you wanted to hear.
How bad this new law is, and whether or not it’s fair, depends on the details, which I can’t find.
Where I am we have a general registration for ALL dogs. It’s a cheap annual fee if they’re desexed and if the dog gets loose and is picked up, it gets returned to the owners first time free of charge. That law is there to ensure the dog population doesn’t get out of control in suburbia, and that dogs that repeatedly escape and get onto the road can be identified and addressed.
Certain ‘restricted’ breeds have additional laws. They are supposed to only be kept if desexed if living in certain suburbs. They can only be owned by someone over the age of 18. They can only be walked in public by someone who is over 18. There is a minimum height for your fences. This legislation targets certain breeds, including the pit bull. While I don’t think it’s fair to target a particular handful of breeds, I do think these precautions are reasonable for any dog breed over 20kg.
If any dog attacks a human, or kills an animal, or comes close, it gets reclassified as a ‘dangerous dog’. These dogs must have an enclosure, not just a fence, and ‘Beware of Dog’ signs at the entrance to the property. They’re not to be walked in public, and are to be muzzled if outside of their enclosure. These dogs attract a higher registration fee, and if they escape they are likely to be seized and put down.
The difference between a ‘restricted breed’ legislation and this dangerous dog legislation is that these individual dogs have proven themselves to be dangerous. It is not condemning an entire breed. These measures have not resulted in more dogs being ‘abandoned and sacrificed‘, but there are more dogs around these days that look very much like pit bulls that are being labeled as ‘staffy crosses’.
All dogs bite. That’s how they eat. You can’t guarantee that any individual dog, of any breed, will never hurt a human. You simply can’t, and it’s irresponsible to do so.
We should be encouraging people to understand dog’s body language and dog etiquette to reduce the number of dog bites. Legislation won’t fix this problem, but neither will targeting certain breeds.
You can’t prove that ‘pit bulls are not really dangerous’. You can’t prove that for any breed, especially not a large, muscular one. The task lies in convincing the general public that the breed is not any more dangerous than any other breed of dog. Hey, it’s Labradors and Golden Retrievers that are statistically most likely to bite a vet and send them to hospital.
Having good ambassadors for the breed in public and social media is vital to change public perception. Stop cropping their ears if you’re in a country that still allows this to happen. Socialize them well, with humans and other dogs. Train them well. Let them be as good as they can be, because they represent their breed.
Not all of these dogs are nice, but that could be said of any breed. The task remains to show that enough of these dogs are and don’t deserve to be singled out over any other breed.
It used to be rottweilers, dobermans and german shepherds that were vilified in this way. Society’s views can change, but it takes consistent good examples to do so.
On the topic of pit bulls, how do you tell what's an APBT and what's a bully mix?
same way you would tell any purebred and mixes of that breed apart, they look different!
if you’re thinking “is MY dog a bully mix or an apbt?” i guarantee you its a mix. you have to go out of your way to find a real apbt, and cough up a lot of money for it cause they are not common whatsoever and mostly just exist within the apbt fancier circle, you dont really just happen to have one by chance.
if you’re thinking just in general how to identify one versus the other, they look less alike then you’d think!
actual american pit bull terriers:
firstly, they’re way smaller than you probably realize! these are not big dogs, and they are usually very naturally athletic and have lean musce.
bully breed mixes (BBM):
tl;dr almost every “pit bull” youve seen is probably not a pit bull
For almost two years, I felt like I had failed as a dog owner because my Bully mix (Pitterstaff/AmBully, at best guess) turned out to be dog aggressive.
“It’s all in how they’re raised!” is a sentence that makes me cringe. Anyone that owns a DA APBT or Bully breed probably knows what I’m talking about. While it is a great sentiment on the ability of dogs to overcome horrible situations, it ignores essential facts about canine behavior while simultaneously putting the blame on dog owners.
One of the first pictures I have of Zuni and I, on a camping trip in early 2012.
Zuni, my craigslist rescue, wasn’t even a year old when I got her. Her history before being picked up off the streets by a friendly married couple is unknown. But she was a fantastic dog and I took her absolutely everywhere with me - she even came to my high school once and assisted me with a theater presentation. We went to the dog park weekly, ran agility, practiced obedience, and played disc anywhere there was enough space for her to run. When I started working at the kennel, she would go to daycare during my shifts. Zuni was so good with other dogs that she was used as a neutral dog to test newcomers for the daycare program.
I did everything right with her. Knowing her breed, I felt an additional sense of responsibility. I couldn’t raise a dog that would contribute to the “dangerous pitbull” idea. But I can’t control genetics and breed tendencies. My breed isn’t dangerous, but ignoring what my breed was meant for is absolutely dangerous.
Around two years of age, the dog aggression began. We consulted with several trainers and tried so many methods that it makes my head spin thinking about it. The best answer we could get from anyone was that she was fear aggressive. I worked with that for nearly a year, but couldn’t ever agree with it. I know fear aggressive dogs, I work with them frequently. Zuni’s behavior and body language certainly wasn’t fearful - she would strain at the end of her leash, every muscle standing out, eyes locked onto another dog with an intensity that terrified most people. It was the same way she looked at squirrels. I’ve broken up two fights, and both times I knew she’d never quit until she couldn’t get to the other dog.
I didn’t make any progress with Zuni until I accepted the fact that dog aggression was a part of her temperament. I stopped blaming myself for her behavior and I stopped seeing her dog aggression as the sign of a “bad dog.” I stopped trying to make her like every dog she met and instead taught her to ignore other dogs in public and focus on me. I don’t allow people to bring their dogs near her and we certainly don’t go to the dog park anymore. I took months introducing her to Maya and making sure that they had the space that they both needed. She’s able to run agility without losing focus and has done narcotics detection drills off leash in a room with 30 other dogs.
Zuni’s happier now, I’m happier now. Life goes on.