It’s so strange to see this idea people seem to have gotten that fob isn’t emo? I’ve seen posts on the matter, I’ve had real life conversations with younger people about it.
Like I get their image now is changed because they’re older and have a long built reputation, but have you seen their older lyrics? Older music videos? The well documented photo shoots and interviews? Pete’s prolific public persona and blogging? Their fanbase? A HUGE set apart difference that emo bands had from punk was they attracted and embraced a majority female audience.
Yeah they’re part of the holy emo trinity, but above that, they’re one of the founders of the genre and no amount of popularity or sound differences will change that. They are unarguably emo.