one last refuge

anonymous asked:

I always wondered how old Mick on the show was when he burnt down his house, because according to the last refuge it was in 1990, which would make him 20 years old right? But I mean, I do not believe even for a second he was supposed to be older than 17 in that Same with Jax? 1993 which would make him 23 in 2016 (if my math is right) and they constantly joke about him not being old enough to drink ??? It's just not lining up

Oh anon, oh sweet summer child. I’m so happy (sad?) you haven’t seen my rants or posts on this subject so I get to talk about it again. 

You can find them, if interested: here, here, here, oh and here, some here, and here.

This was the episode where I realized that Legends gives this many fucks about temporal continuity: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


But okay, I’ll break the issue down and my solution(s):

For starters, the birthdays in the episode with The Pilgrim (”Last Refuge”) were an easter egg: they used the cast’s actual birthdays instead of going with what would make sense for the character. That’s why Jax is three years off what he should be (because we know he should be a little shy of 21 still, not 23). That’s why Len is born in 1972, making little Leo just 3 years old in that scene in 1975.

If we assume Mick’s actual birthday is also Dominic Purcell’s, following the pattern, then yeah, he’d be born in 1970, making him 20 in 1990. Len would be 18 in 1990. Since they met in juvie, teen!Mick should’ve already met teen!Len by the time we meet him in Last Refuge

So basically, it’s a clusterfuck. 

Mick looks and is implied to be somewhere 15-17 in that episode, and like he hasn’t gone to juvie yet probably (which likely happened after he burned his house down, right?). He’s definitely not 20. And little Leo seems more like 5-6(?) (the actor was 8) and not 3 in that scene.

So the birthday easter egg threw continuity way the fuck off, imo. 

One solution is to throw it out the window. Headcanon the ages that make sense for the characters’ and use their comics’ birthdays for those of them that have an official one. Go with a year that makes sense with canon. Ignore the rest.

Another solution, slightly more in line with Legends, is to keep their birthdays but fudge the years. Pretend that they didn’t pick teen!Mick up in 1990 but instead in 1985. Pretend that they didn’t meet Leo in 1975 but maybe 1977. Pretend that they picked up baby Jax in 1996 instead of 1993. Just ignore the years, basically.

A (less satisfying, to me) solution is to accept the weird easter egg birthdays and such, and retcon the rest.

For myself… I mostly throw out all the dates in Last Refuge and treat them as a joke instead of canon. I mostly use the comics’ birthdays but make up my own sometimes, when I’m writing. Whichever works better for the story, lol. I’ve written Len as anywhere from late 30′s (in 73S) to WM’s age of 43 (more recently in my works). I always write Mick as ~2 years older than Len. I write/headcanon Jax as having been 20 in 2016, and 21 on season 2 of Legends. I go with whatever years make sense for what I’m writing.

Because if the show writers can go  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ then so can I.

SLEEP IS THE ONE LAST REFUGE FROM OUR CAPITALIST EXISTENCE, ALLOWING US TO BE FREE OF THE WAGE RELATION, FREE OF OVERDETERMINED MEANING, FREE OF AUTHORITARIAN BOSSES AND POLITICIANS. BUT IT IS BEING TAKEN FROM US, ONE BIT AT A TIME, IN ORDER TO FURTHER COMMODIFY OUR IMPERFECT BODIES.

ANYWAY, THAT’S WHY I WAS LATE TO WOR K

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All Things Rare and Precious - spirithorse - Tales of Zestiria [Archive of Our Own]
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
By Organization for Transformative Works

Rating: G
Fandom: Tales of Zestiria
Summary: In the face of escalation in the civil war that’s consuming the Rolance Empire, Eizen and Edna try to escape from their home and flee to the one last refuge left for seraphim.

A short prologue to All Glory Ends in Night (aka the Kingmaker AU).

Notes: I got hit by some serious Eizen feels while watching Tales of Berseria, this was not helped by Nami’s encouragement. Takes place before All Glory Ends in Night.

One of the last refuges of someone whose pet project or per theory has been exposed as economic nonsense is to say : “ Economics is all very well and good  but there are also non-economic values to consider…Of course there are non-economic values. In fact there are only non-economic values. Economics is not a value in and of itself.  Economics does not say that you should make the most money possible. Many professors of economics could themselves make more money  in private industry…Adam Smith the father of laissez-faire gave substantial sums of his own money to less fortunate people, Henry Thornton,  one of the leading monetary economists of the 19th century and a banker by trade regularly gave away more than half his annual income. The first public libraries in New York city were  not established
by government but by Entrepreneur Andrew Carnegie. The United States which has come to epitomize capitalism in the eyes of many people around the world is unique in having hundreds of colleges, hospitals, foundations, libraries, museums and other institutions created by the donations of private individuals, many of these being people  who earned money in the marketplace then devoted much of it-sometimes most of it-to helping others…The market as a mechanism for the allocation of scarce resources among alternative uses is one thing; what one chooses to do with the resulting wealth is another.
—  Thomas Sowell,  Basic Economics.