you were born on the west coast. black sand and thrashing waters, the kind of dangerous parents warn their children about. you could swim before you could walk, and you can feel the ocean in your bones, a soft ache that will never go away
you were born in canterbury. winter is nothing more than a warm embrace to you. your body convulses and shifts endlessly like the land below you, and your whole existence feels on edge. rise and fall
you were born in the wetlands. you know rebirth better than any, and yet you still feel trapped. you wake early every morning, and you know just how silent the farm can be. your life is an endless cycle of this knowing and yet you can never do anything but watch
you were born in te hiku-o-te-ika. the old gods still live inside of the earth, and you are surrounded by them. tane mahuta stands tall and so do you. breathe in, you exist at the top of aotearoa
you were born in the alpine mountains of otago. land of the red earth, isolated village, you are difficult to get to and difficult to understand. you are calmest when the wind is thin and the snow cold. poor child, you will never be able to comprehend your vastness
you were born in the cities. there is a disconnect in your identity, and no matter how many times you shift around, you will never feel at home until the hum of traffic has settled under your skin
you were born in the king country. war torn kid with too much blood on your knees, in your mouth, on your arms. there’s a rage inside of you that will never go away, but nor will the strength that comes from the bones of the kings in the soil below you
you were born in marlborough. the dry season has lasted several years, and you just want to know when everything will feel okay again. soon, i promise you
you were born on the volcanic plateau. you will never know where you belong, but that’s okay. nowhere will be able to contain you but the open vastness of the desert road. you are all too much, from lake taupo to mount ruapehu, you are unknowable
you were born in the bay of plenty. you have never known hunger, but you know suffering. you are the softest of children, raised on summer warmth and placid rivers that you know better than the back of your hand
you were born in heretaunga. you survived a place that wanted you dead. through the floods, the earthquakes, and the droughts, you still stand. you are so much stronger than you know
Are you going to tour America with your musical again? I missed it and I'm yearning for the chance to see your beautiful face on stage with all the other equally beautiful faces in the cast. If not, is there a way I can get the soundtrack?
Yesss!!!! That’s the goal, anyway! We only did the east coast, so we wanna go again for the west coast and middle of the country, and also a couple repeat spots on the east coast! We first wanna revamp it a bit, add in a couple changes and songs, and we need to increase the budget first, which is why we’re taking time to earn some funds!
In the meantime, you CAN get the soundtrack on iTunes and Amazon by searching “Ultimate Storytime”!! I’m so proud of the album!!!
ok i know we have a lot already but not many are ~complete~ enough ot have been updated recently so yeah! here we go………………………
so as we all know, ryan has a questionable livejournal that he used before panic really became famous. there’s not a whole lot of ryden related stuff in that, but there is some cute stuff
“duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude write about how… wait, nvm. i suck at this. i suck at life. psh, YOU suck. I HATE YOU! haha you know i love ya’ baby! wednesday. practice. be there or be…GAY!” honestly early 2000′s brendon is a treasure.
and another cute post from his lj (that I dont have the screencap for)
“I love my 3 friends to death. we are going to move out and see the country together playing music. I know it.” ryan on august 8th. 2004.
well he was right!! because soon after Pete Wentz contacted them to try to sign them. you can read the conversation here but here’s the best part:
Pete Wentz (7:48:06 PM): You guys look good. The chicks gonna be swooning? Ryan Ross (7:48:38 PM): once we get a keyboard player who can do all of the sampling we want to do it will be alot better too. its like we know how we want to sound, but just finding the right way to do it i guess is what we are working on. Ryan Ross (7:48:40 PM): hahaha Ryan Ross (7:48:51 PM): i dont know man, we look alright i guess Ryan Ross (7:48:57 PM): we look young Pete Wentz (7:49:42 PM): Youngs not abd at all Pete Wentz (7:49:47 PM): How does the singiner look Ryan Ross (7:50:05 PM): dead sexy. Ryan Ross (7:50:41 PM): he’s no pete wentz. but still
So now, we move to 2006. this is where ryden becomes real as hell.
Ryan and Brendon both were dating scene queens (you can see my posts of Brendon and Audrey here and Ryan and Jac here)
The relationships didn’t last too long, and after the couples split the girls both claimed the boys to to be gay together.
There is also a supposedly leaked conversation between the girls where they again claim that R&B (lol) are gay together.
slamcrashp33n: Hi. How big/small is brendon uries penis. twiggofviolence: About 4.5 hard twiggofviolence: I feel bad for him slamcrashp33n: Dude me too. twiggofviolence: Lets not start humilating rumors for him? slamcrashp33n: Ahhahaha no way dude. twiggofviolence: I trust u slamcrashp33n: No. I trust youuuuu twiggofviolence: he always wanted to have butt sex I think he might be bisexual twiggofviolence: I wouldn’t let him though twiggofviolence: That’s gnarly slamcrashp33n: dude fuck yeah. Don’t let him do the flipover on you. Right? twiggofviolence: Fuck no slamcrashp33n: Fuck yeah. twiggofviolence: Him and ryan probably do now twiggofviolence: I honestly think there’s something goin on slamcrashp33n: Dude I’ve been calling that shit from the beginniing slamcrashp33n: No one believes me! twiggofviolence: Me too whenever I was on tour I’d wake up and they would be sitting in the lounge together alone at like 7am slamcrashp33n: That’s shady as shit. Did you call him on it back then? twiggofviolence: Yeah he said there just “best friends” but he’d rather sleep with ryan in the lounge then me sometimes in his bed twiggofviolence: Go figure twiggofviolence: I just thought he couldn’t sleep on the bus but now I’m like wow.. slamcrashp33n: dude I always thought he used you as a cover up. twiggofviolence: I wouldn’t be surpised twiggofviolence: Honestly haha slamcrashp33n: Wow that’s some traumatizing shit. slamcrashp33n: Yo do you have a british accent? twiggofviolence: Haha sucks for him more I’d hate to be fmaous and try and hide that I’m gay twiggofviolence: Nah slamcrashp33n: Dude if he’s gay then he should be proud. Wellll all of his 11 yr old followers wouldn’t be fans anymore so I guess I see why he hies it slamcrashp33n: Hidesss twiggofviolence: Haha yeha he’s probaly embaressed since all him fans are so younge they would be confused slamcrashp33n: They probably wouldn’t even know what gay was twiggofviolence: True slamcrashp33n: Dude jac didn’t answer when I asked her about ryan. Do you know? twiggofviolence: Hahaha nope no clue slamcrashp33n: I bet brendon knows hahhaa twiggofviolence: Oh duh slamcrashp33n: Okay I’m off. Thanks for the info. twiggofviolence: Have fun tell everyone u know twiggofviolence: Haha slamcrashp33n: Hhhahah yeah I figured you didn’t really care about humiliating rumors
so that brings us to the most important event in recorded history ever! summer of 2006!
First off, a ridiculously important interview Greta Salpeter from the Hush Sound did after they toured with panic:
Q: Tell us about your craziest touring experience.
On the 2006 Panic Tour, we played the House of Blues in Myrtle Beach [JUNE 24TH]. After the show, most of the bands and crew walked a mile to the beach and, having not brought our swimsuits, decided to swim in underwear or totally nude. Bob and I opted to skinny dip and, at one point, he was trying to get back to the shore but the waves were crashing over him and he was gasping for breath. I yelled to him, ‘Bob, are you going to live? As much as I want to help you, we are both naked so I can’t.’ (Would have been far too awkward). Thankfully, he survived in one glorious piece.
The next night, Ryan made this infamous entry on his livejournal:
6-25-06 01:21:28 PDT - (No Subject)
The moon bred new Atlantic life tonight.the salt burned you right out of my eyes.and secrets we’re not proud of were taken with the tide. We were all newborns with blurred vision and no sense of direction.
Today I saw cancer, cigarettes and shortness of breath. this is why I walk to the ocean.swim with jellyfish.I may never get this chance again. this is why if you want to kiss you should kiss. If you want to cry you should cry, and if you want to live you should live. You don’t have to love me. You already did. At least enough to keep me smiling from South Carolina to Virginia.it’s for lovers (orjustfriends) This is why I do it.
Then Dream, one of the dancers who was on tour with them at the time, also wrote this in her journal:
June 24th, 2006 It’s our last night in Florida and let me tell you… this finally turned into a crazy rock tour… lots of shenanigans happened tonight… but I’ll save this story for the memoirs! Every night I stand on stage and tell the crowd that Brendon is a virgin… let’s just put it this way… it ain’t true!!!!
(Here’s a cute video where Brendon looks good as hell and Ryan says he’s no longer a virgin)
Then, the end of summer. Panic play an iconic show at the MTV VMAs at the end of August (a video for anyone who hasn’t seen.) This is where Ryan meets Keltie who becomes his girlfriend for a while.
2007 comes and passes and not a lot happens, as they were away (fucking) in a cabin and writing Pretty. Odd. However, something important did happen!!
Ryan’s 21st birthday. His party was in New York City
Brendon wasn’t in NYC at the time, he was in rainy Seattle (important!!!). After the party, Ryan flew out to Seattle (apparently not warming Keltie).
*scooby doo villain voice* and he would’ve gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for those darn fan pics!
(I couldn’t find the original picture I’m sorry to whoever this fan, this hero is)
This event is believed to be the inspiration to Northern Downpour (Seattle is rainy and in the north… ryden is real) The song also had the lyrics,
I missed your skin when you were east,
You clicked your heels and wished for me.
Ryan was in the east coast….. anyway………
finally, 2008. Good year for ryden.
First off, here’s something from on Dylan Urie’s (Brendon and Shane’s dog) myspace:
Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: awaking from summer dreams is never easy, Body: but being awoken makes it so much worse.
as summer comes to an end we lose and gain so much. summer lovers become part time lovers, then slowly fade to just a simple memory. maybe it’s not so simple to some of us, though. maybe we can’t just forget at the first leaf of autumn. maybe we remember every detail until our last breath of air. maybe we really aren’t okay when asked. maybe we’re holding on, as we watch them let go.
sometimes, it is quite apparent that our “significant other” doesn’t feel the same. we deal, because we know that there has to be something there.
a twinkle in an eye. a shock when we kiss. whatever it is, it’s there. and maybe one day they’ll notice it too.
you know, i’ve never really liked days off. they make me think too much.
it’s time to start loving to live, not living to love. we can only give so much without anything in return.
this was pretty much just something i completely made up because i wanted to say i had a totally awesome summer. then again, maybe it’s not so fictional for most of us after all? summer’s almost over kiddos. time to get back to filling those brains of yours’ with knowledge or maybe just nonsense with a degree.
stay smart, xo
You’ll start to notice that in several of both Ryan and Brendon’s lyrics (even now), they repeatedly refer to “living in a dream” or things along that line. (if you look back to the poem posted on Dylan’s myspace, the subject line reads “awaking from summer dreams are never easy.”)
Finally, in March 2008, Pretty. Odd. is released. the most important album of all time. The album had repeated references to the ocean (where ryden supposedly has sex), the summer, and dreams.
Northern Downpour “we should feed our jewelry to the sea When the Day Met the Night. “in the middle of summer” Behind the Sea (self explanatory) Folkin’ Around “Allow me to exaggerate a memory or two Where summers lasted longer than Longer than we do” She Had the World “Throwing a line out to sea To see if I can catch a dream” From a Mountain in the Middle of the Cabins “Watch love get strangled by a kite’s cold strings Fall comes early and summer leaves As a storm with the car keys” She’s a Handsome Woman “Reverie” is another word for dream. Northern Downpour “If all our life is but a dream” Behind the Sea “A daydream spills from my corked head” She Had the World “Throwing a line out to seato see if I can catch a dream
Also something I noticed as I was looking through these lyrics (I noticed a lot but this is the only one where I’m not reaching too hard) in That Green Gentleman, these are the lyrics:
Little deaths in musical beds. So it seems I’m someone I’ve never met.
You will only hear these elegant crimes, Fall on your ears from criminal dimes. They spill unfound from a pretty mouth.
The word for orgasm is French translates into “little death.” I interperet the second verse to talking about when Jac and Audrey revealed Ryden, but thats just me.
Another thing that becomes important is references to the sun/moon. Most people consider Brendon to be the sun and Ryan to be the moon. Even today they still talk about this.
Also, there is many instances of Pretty. Odd. lyrics referencing a gay poet, Arthur Rimbaud.
Mas as Rabbits: We must reinvent love.
AR: I don’t like women, love must be reinvented, that’s for certain.
She’s a Hansome Woman: I wasn’t born to be a skeleton
AR: I wasn’t born to be a skeleton.
Behins the Sea: Yes, we’re all too smart to talk to God.
AR: Does he talk to God? Perhaps I myself should go talk to God.
Mad as Rabbits:
Preached the devil in the belfry
Also, just for bonus, I added in two of my fave ryden pictures of all time…..
in which ryans shirt button gets fucked up and Brendon’s shirt comes off… anyway….. here’s another picture (I’m trying to keep this as picture-free as possible because I know it makes it super hard on mobile users)
I am loving Ryan’s Brendon bracelet!
Another random thing: Spencer and Jon did an interview with out.com and had this to say:
Walker: And what’s the problem if Ryan and Brendon were actually dating, you know? There’s not really any problem with that. Smith: Because they might be.
So now, 2009. The end of Ryden.
Ryan and Jon left in July and there’s no more ryden. Now, we just have to use songs released by everyone’s side projects to get our Ryden fix (and there is so much……….)
The Young Veins (2010)
CAPE TOWN!: You asked me if I meant everything I said that night, I didn’t./I loved you, I left you, I lost you in Cape Town. (also: the last pre-split panic show was in Cape Town)
Maybe I Will, Maybe I Won’t:
Will you come visit me, finally finding sleep, we’ll swim around in dreams, stay afloat
Everyone But You:
She comes to me when I dream, I’m tired of counting sheep to see her, I sleep because I need her.
All I do is lie by the ocean side/Even the tide gets high at night.
Lie to the Truth: I know I broke your heart, mine is broken too. Now if we’re even, why are we both blue?
Panic! at the Disco
When they decided they would try to make it on their own/When July became December, their affection fought the cold. But they couldn’t quite remember, what inspired them to go.
I may never sleep tonight as long as you’re still burning bright. If I could trade mistakes for sheep, count me away before you sleep. I’ll stay awake till I trade my mistakes or they fade away.
The Calender (confirmed to be about the split):
Put another X on the calendar, summer’s on its deathbed. There is simply nothing worse than knowing how it ends. And I meant everything I said that night. (last lyrics is a response to Cape Town)
Matching set of marching clocks, the slumbering apparitions that they’ve come to wake up. (clearly referencing behind the sea)
Oh, if you only knew what we’ve been up to, I guarantee you’d keep it secret. So give it to me now, we’re lost in a dream now
Hallelujah: The time for being sad is over and you miss him like you miss no other, and being blue is better than being over it. (a response to Ryan’s question in Lie to the Truth)
Ryan Ross (2014)
Where I Belong: I know I should’ve never left, I’d gotten tired of being buried.
Lonely Moonlight: I’m not even going to decipher this the name is enough
So that’s the gist of it! I made this whole thing in five hours and by the time I finished it was 2am so forgive my typos. ryden is real
Hiiiiii Clare :) Congrats on 600! What are some of your hcs for the gangsey after the events of the books are done???
heidi!!! thank you!! you spoil me ahhh i had a long week but now i have some pasta and down time and im so Ready™ to talk about these kids that i love with my whole heart this is so long oh god
listen idk about you but i’ve been on a ton of road trips and they are not easy so if that trip actually lasts the whole 3 months of summer i’ll eat my shirt
ok but please??? imagine the bickering i bet you henry is so directionally challenged, blue probably wants a schedule whereas gansey is probably like “what do you mean we’re not just driving off into the sunset i don’t understand wait…we have an actual route?”
don’t lie to me you know he got lost plenty on his various adventures and his soft scholarly heart just went with it
but yea anyway they probably went up and down the east coast for about 2.5-3 weeks, hitting up all the state parks along the way and stopping in small towns
henry insists they have to find the best pizza on the east coast only to claim nothing can top Nino’s by the end of it
gansey wants to see all the wacky tourist spots “to get the authentic experience”
at each stop they send postcards to The Barns (theyre all on the fridge)
blue takes SO MANY pictures ok but all of them are candids
so while there’s these awful blurry messes she also manages to catch these really fantastic photos of henry falling out of a tree he tried to climb with gansey laughing, of the three of them in a diner shifting their food around (you know how when you know someone so well you just order food and shift things around so everyone has what they like? like that)
her absolute favorite: she was recording them on a hike and they stumble upon a little grove with a stream running through and forgot to stop the video when she set her phone down. that night she plugs her phone in to the car charger and gets a screenshot of the three of them standing in the stream, laughing and singing.
after the road trip blue registers for summer sessions at the community college and keeps working at Nino’s and walking dogs, she decides she’s going to save up and get her associates then transfer to a university to get her degree in marketing for art (listen she loves being creative, she loves collecting, she’s smart as hell and would get great buys for up-and-coming artists, that girl could own a really cool gallery i can see it now)
gansey defers for a year because. well. dying is stressful. but once he goes to college he decides to study art history. like blue, he loves art but he can’t deny he loves history too, and authenticating old works and searching for ancient tapestries and lost paintings is something our boy would be great at (bonus: in later years he would be the most eccentric art history professor ever and he’d totally where those corduroy jackets with elbow patches and his wire rim glasses im!!! i love the idea of old man gansey being this adorable weirdo professor that all the students love)
because we don’t really know much about henry’s interests i don’t know what his major would be but wouldn’t it be hilarious is he was a professional beekeeper and bought up land to have bee gardens and sanctuaries and started a natural honey business and gansey goes there all the time because he’s Crazy but he’s decked out in protection gear and ronan and blue team up to make a rule that he not go out to the gardens because nobody wants to tempt fate that bad
adam and ronan spend the summer together with opal seeing the beginnings of their life together settle in
ronan teaches opal more and more english and spends hours figuring out what foods she likes or doesn’t like while training her not to eat sticks
adam comes up with little lesson plans for her to start learning how to read and write along with simple math and science
ronan dreams up some fake documents so they can get her enrolled in homeschooling because there’s no way they’re gonna do public school and try to explain their satyr child to anyone thats just…nah
when they’re not teaching opal ronan is tending to the farm, learning what livestock he wants to buy and care for, going to showings all around the state (people look at him so weird, a tall kid who looks more like a biker than a farmer, cradling a bunny in his arms at the makeshift petting zoo with a little girl on his shoulders. he’s A Sight.)
adam, it turns out, is very good at baking and opal develops a bit of a sweet tooth off of his many experiments with different cupcakes and cookies
their days are carefree. they explore the fields of the barns, make wild plans for the future, tell opal stories and play with her. they catch fireflies and learn constellations together.
every evening is spent giving opal bubble baths and wrapping her up in old tshirts and gym shorts from matthews room then settling down with warm milk and honey and telling stories of sleeping kings, trees that give advice, and ordinary people discovering magic
they brush out her wild hair and the fur on her legs and put her to bed and quietly get themselves ready for bed. sometimes adam will read to ronan until they fall asleep.
sure, there are bad nights. they both have their fair share of nightmares. opal does too. that’s when they grab blankets and go sit on the porch and talk about the stories of the constellations until their minds settle again.
when they drop adam off at the dorms as he starts his first year, its hard. its really really hard. these three haven’t had a lot of good in their lives up until now so letting go of their routine, of each other, although its temporary, it hurts. none of them cry, but its close (close as in adam waits until they’ve driven away and he’s got a moment alone in the bathroom. ronan lets the tears fall silently as he grips opal’s hand reaching forward from the back seat where she’s crying into her knees she’s drawn up to her chest).
the first time adam calls home he’s worried opal won’t remember him, after all they only had a few months together, and they don’t know exactly how great her memory is. his worst fear happens when he’s skyping ronan, who tells opal it’s adam, and she says “who’s that?”
just as adam feels his heart break a little, opal leans into the frame and continues, “no papa, that’s dad.” (turns out ronan bought her a book that teaches family vocabulary)
adam feels like his heart is breaking again but this time from being so entirely full of love for these two he can barely comprehend it
adam, light of my life, goes into law. he gets a full ride because he is smart as hell and super dedicated (can u tell im proud of him). for the most part he assists at a small business firm his first few years out of college but eventually, he focuses on social work cases and getting law changes in the state to make it easier for parents to report their parents without endangering themselves, as well as changing emancipation laws so that emancipated minors can make purchases regardless of age and aren’t left homeless. its very close to his heart but even though it hurts sometimes to see these cases it only makes him want to win even more, and he knows he has ronan and opal to help bring him back from rough days at work
ronan is the Best Farmer Ever he starts buying livestock and filling up The Barns with dairy cows, hens, and goats (he thinks its hilarious when they get there and opal is absolutely fascinated by their legs). part of the land has an orchard that has both normal fruit and some of the trees niall dreamt up, and ronan sells fruit at a local farmers market as well as to other farmers who make local preserves. declan comes by here and there and…they actually start to get along a little better once declan accepts that this is ronan’s life and ronan accepts that declan was just trying to do what’s right. it also helps that for some reason opal loves declan like. so much man. and he loves her too theyre practically best buddies its precious, and even better when matthew is over too. all the lynch boys are weak for this little girl ok? they don’t stand a chance she’s got them all wrapped around her little finger.
finally, there’s noah.
every year on the day he died, truly died, for them, they all get together and go to his grave (his birthday is for his family). they tell his headstone about their classes, about new things opal has learned, about how the farm and the bee garden are going.
blue always kisses her hand and presses it to the headstone before she leaves. he was her first kiss, so he gets another every year as thanks for giving her the boy she loves.
ronan always brings opal and tells her about his best friend, about a boy who was dead but lived loudly in spite of that. he leaves dream fruit at the headstone, and opal leaves her favorite stick she’s found that week.
henry never met noah, but he hears so much about this boy who was a ghost, who was technically non-existent who still gave the last vestiges of himself up, just for the friends he’s come to think of as family. he leaves a bouquet of the most beautiful wildflowers from his garden.
adam always starts off with telling noah about classes, trying to keep himself together, but he always ends it by choking up halfway through telling his headstone how important noah is to him. adam leaves a stone from the river, almost like he’s redirecting the ley line again.
gansey is always last. while everyone else is there for comfort they always leave gansey to say his goodbyes last, and instead take him into a hug when he gets to the car. gansey just…he needs to do this alone. he needs to tell noah it wasn’t for nothing, that he’s doing everything possible to make noah proud. gansey never knows what to leave that could possibly live up to what noah has given him. he leaves a copy of pictures of them every year. noah gave him life, so gansey leaves evidence of the people he lives for, the people that make it worth living, the people that miss him. the people that remember him.
This song means a lot to him, you can tell; not only by the fact that he mentioned it even in the earliest interviews, but how he tweeted so proudly of it & kept coming back to get to see more of the response to it.
So, Just Like You day from Louis’ social media….
It started early. 6:45 my time on the East Coast:
(This was only 15 minutes away at the time.)
Then he posted a lovely photo for us:
Did they think it was: “I get tattoos”?
These lyrics are so heartfelt and personal. I hadn’t even heard it and I knew it was going to be a song of substance & a topic that he felt strongly about.
But was he really? ;)
Same, Louis. Back to You was great, but Just Like You is all his amazing voice, has such meaningful lyrics of depth and is so much the essence of Louis in a song, that it’s even better.
He’s not the little
from Donny for no reason.
I can’t believe there are people that don’t understand this song.
Translation: I am going to go for a while, but I’ll be back later to check on more reactions. Appreciative as ever.
Just in case you forgot.
Then, he went on instagram:
Flashback to that day:
And then he went back to tweeting:
I’m not really sure what this is referring to but lol:
And now it’s available on the East Coast so be sure to buy & stream it!
A/N: so hi. this was requested (spending time with shawn’s family) - i hope you like it. the title’s not all that specific but i was listening to the song whilst writing this - it’s by john mayer. it’s my favourite of the three i’ve posted so far, i hope you like it too!! request anything here - also if you wanna give me feedback please do. i’d appreciate it so much!!
It was only a few months ago that you’d really gotten to know the Mendes family, necessarily, after spending a full week with them in the bus as the tour made its different stops. You were up close and personal, to say the least; and now, while Karen and Manny treat you like one of their own, Aaliyah treats you like the sister she never had. It’s comfortable. And - frankly - comforting when you can Facetime his sister because he’s too busy.
You and Aaliyah are sharing the gigantic beanbag in Shawn’s living room when he walks in. You’re watching some funny cat video compilation on your laptop, which you’ve put in between you; neither of you look up until he clears his throat, and you hit pause. He’s leaning against the door frame in a hoodie and sweats, arms folded, looking overly pleased with himself.
“What do you want?” Aaliyah snaps, and your eyes widen.
It’s not that Frankie doesn’t like being able to reach out and touch someone. She’s cool with being connected – tuned in, turned on, and a little less dropped out these days, except when she has a flashback or gets a bad batch of edibles. But there’s gotta be a limit. When Grace shows up at the beach house for Memorial Day weekend basically surgically attached to a small device that beeps, zaps, and pings all the friggin’ time, Frankie hits it.
All I want for these two is post-s3 smooches and snuggles; instead I’m writing pre-series angst exploring the times when they barely tolerated each other. Why.
This is inspired by a prompt from @cosmic-llin: discovering some form of technology together. This was also originally intended to be somewhere between drabble and ficlet. Uh. Oops.
Hey, I'm sorry, I have another question for you. I was wondering, what's your take on Ross having so much control over the Avengers in cacw? Someone said that it was because they were all American except Wanda, but I don't fully buy that. After all, most of the events were taking place on foreign soil, shouldn't the reps of those countries also have had a say in how they operated, and on the consequences of them breaking the law?
Don’t apologize. I love questions! I hope you don’t mind a long answer because I have a lot of thoughts on Thaddeus Ross.
My answer is going to be two-fold, the first being what we know as seen in the MCU thus far and what the real-life position of Secretary of State entails, and the second part what I predict they’re trying to set up with Ross given his comics history.
Firstly the position of Secretary of State should have never gone to Ross. And any sympathy I had for Marvel President Ellis left over from Iron Man 3 is now gone entirely because the position of SoS is appointed by the president and you have to wonder, given Ross’ history, what exactly Ellis was thinking in appointing Ross to that position of all people.
What we know from Incredible Hulk about Thaddeus Ross:
He was running a human experimentation program trying to replicate Erskine’s super soldier serum.
This project was government funded and military supported.
Moreover we know that the accident that resulted in Bruce Banner becoming the Hulk was not the first mishap under Ross’ purview. How do we know this? From this bit of dialogue from Incredible Hulk, right here:
General Greller: Are you telling me ANOTHER one of you super soldier experiments has gone haywire?! Is there ANYTHING that came out of that program that didn’t turn into a mess?!
We also know that Ross’ idea of capturing Banner (whom had lost all humanity to Ross - Ross saw Banner as an object. More dialogue from Incredible Hulk… “No, that’s not a ‘good thing’ Major. But I don’t want Banner anyway. GODDAMNIT I WANT WHAT’S INSIDE OF HIM.”) was to create another Hulk-like being, Abomination, who was worse and who proceeded to take out half of Harlem.
So what we have established here: Ross is super invested in creating an army of super powered beings, and when I say super invested, I mean invested to the point of mania. His human experimentation program has had many mishaps, but yet the military and the US government is still somehow funding it. In the movie Incredible Hulk it was Ross’ mania to capture Bruce Banner and further his experimentation that resulted in a Brazilian town being leveled, as well as half of Harlem. Moral of the story, Ross’ has no leg to stand on to lecture anyone on collateral damage.
Since Ellis appointed Ross to Secretary of State, then I’m led to believe that Ellis, too, has some nefarious intentions. Especially as, and this is an important note that not many people discuss, the Raft was fully built and functional by the time the Accords were rolled out.
I work in a tall office building in La Jolla, San Diego. It took a construction crew almost a year just to redo the lobby of this building. Can you imagine how long it would take to design, then build, a structure like the Raft? One that is submersible and surrounded entirely by ocean?! A project like that would take YEARS. But there it sat, fully operational, ready to imprison super powered beings. Also, were you aware that anything beyond 12 nautical miles from a country’s coast is considered international waters (…in real life anyway. Naturally in the Marvel world the oceans are under the jurisdiction of Namor, a fact of which he likes to remind everybody. Constantly.). Just things that make you go hmmmm.
Anyway, here are the powers that Ross has (that he should have never been given and the fact that he does have them is eyebrow raising) as Secretary of State:
Negotiates, interprets, and terminates treaties and agreements;
Ensures the protection of the U.S. Government to American citizens, property, and interests in foreign countries;
Supervises the administration of U.S. immigration laws abroad;
Provides information to American citizens regarding the political, economic, social, cultural, and humanitarian conditions in foreign countries
Serves as the channel of communication between the Federal Government and the States on the extradition of fugitives to or from foreign countries.
Grants and issues passports to American citizens and exequaturs to foreign consuls in the United States
I’ve bolded the two we saw, with our own eyes, Ross completely abuse in CA:CW.
Now onto where I feel the MCU might be taking Ross. In comics Ross becomes Red Hulk, he is also a member of an early incarnation of the Thunderbolts, as are two other villains who appeared in CA:CW: Crossbones and Helmut Zemo.
…it is my theory that the Thunderbolts/Masters of Evil are already in the MCU, and have been plotting behind everyone’s back, which would explain a lot of the plot holes that have been thus far unanswered. Things like: Klaw having vibranium in A:AOU (Klaw as a member of the Masters of Evil, the pre-Thuderbolts). Who hired Crossbones to be in Lagos and how he knew the Avengers were going to be sent there (set-up) at the same time that the Wakandan dignitaries were there (I do not believe that Crossbones being there with a bomb at the same time as the Wakandan dignitaries is a coincidence). The real reason the UN was blown up with both T’Chaka and T’Challa present (had T’Challa died, too, both the king and his successor would have been taken out), and why Ross ignored empirical evidence that Bucky had been framed, thus sending Tony to Siberia exactly when Zemo needed him there. All of these things, I feel, can be explained by a Thunderbolt/Masters of Evil underlying plot.
One more thing to support my theory? The main prison in the comic book Civil War was not the Raft, it was Area 42 - the Negative Zone. The Raft, however, has a significant tie to the Thunderbolts. When Steve came back from the ‘dead’ and became Top Cop, he and Luke Cage decided to make the Thunderbolts a legit shot at redemption for former villains (instead of either Zemo’s or Osborn’s incarnations of it, which was anything but), so they went to the Raft to recruit and administer a test, of sorts (to gauge the sincerity of the former villains in their redemption) leaving Luke in charge of the new team.
A/N: I may have gotten ridiculously emotional at 4am last night thinking about Wish!Killian and his daughter. Then this happened. Completely unbeta’d and written on a serious lack of sleep, so forgive me for any errors.
The moon shone bright overhead as Killian snuck up to the base of the tall tower. In any other circumstances, the captain would have felt exposed by it, but the thick brush and vines that extended the length of tower provided the perfect cover. Anyways, he was certain that the coast was clear; he had spent the past few hours making damn sure of it, in fact.
A quick flash of light, followed by two long ones, two short ones, and another long one, repeated over and over. Just as he’d taught her.
Mindful of the sharp thorns that protruded in the usual areas from the web-like growth, Killian began scaling the stone wall of the tower. It was a climb he had made numerous times before, and he would have sworn he could have made it to the top window just as quickly even without the glowing sky to guide him. Still, he found himself nearly puffing with exertion as he hauled himself through the paneless window, rolling over the edge and collapsing in a graceless heap on the stone floor.
Rated: T (for language) Word Count: 6250 A/N: Anyone order a fake relationship AU?? Guys, I think this is the longest one shot I’ve ever written. I worked my butt off on this but I really enjoyed writing it! Grab a cuppa and get comfy!
Why did he just do that? Why did he just tell his mother on the phone that he had a pretty serious girlfriend? He knew very well she’d ask him a billion questions and then of course, the big one…
“Bring her to your cousins wedding!”
Of course he accepted but there was one small problem.
This weekend ended up being less than productive, if I’m quite honest. I woke up to an opportunity of going for a hike on Saturday – opportunity that I took. I did regret it a little on Sunday, considering the sore muscles and the cold I caught while hiking on the coast during a windy winter day. Anyways. Back on today’s work. I spent my morning doing my readings (due for the afternoon…) and upon going home later, I picked up Virginia Woolf’s with some snack; then checked my grammar notes, before organising my week and (at last) doing my translation homework.