ok i ship tony with everyone

anonymous asked:

ok I'm curious, what in CA:CW made you ship MCU!Steve/Tony because I know before that you didn't really ship them.

honestly, it’s not so much what made me ship mcu stevetony as what made me love mcu tony

and mcu tony in cacw was very 616-like to me: less quippy, more openly fucking sad, with his guilt complex really way too obvious, with playing politics, with doing damage control and PR and all the stuff other avengers don’t want to care about, with negotiating ross and trying to keep everyone together (and failing so hard, oh my god, tony), with his self-hatred and loneliness

he’s just pretty much everything i love about tony wrapped up in a pair of the saddest most hurt eyes ever

and where do we see his most emotional reactions? in reply to steve

it’s really really obvious he cares about steve so much. really. so fucking much.

and it’s there in the first scene with ross and the avengers–steve turns to look at tony, and tony takes ages to look up, and they have this silent communication thing and i believe tony knows already then that it will go down somehow, it’ll be a mess, and he has to try and stop it

and then it only gets more obvious

there’s berlin

he starts talking to steve (and steve only) and he wants to convince him, he tries everything. he starts the conversation in a messed up suit and fixes himself because he’s really emotionally vulnerable there, he needs some kind of an armour

and he snaps at steve–give me a break. i’m doing what has to be done. to stave off something worse. because damn he believes this and he doesn’t believe he’ll convince steve, not really, but wow he has to try because steve’s his friend and this is the only way tony can take care of him now and steve’s a good man so if he agrees with tony–maybe so’s tony, and if he doesn’t…well, and damn tony wants his approval

we know how it ends. keep telling yourself that. and tony puts on his glasses, more armour, and you can’t tell me he’s not crying.

HE JUST. CARES. ABOUT STEVE. SO MUCH.

and then zemo happens, bucky happens, steve runs away

and tony talks to ross. sits down, so ross can tower over him, and tony fucking looks up and makes himself physically unassuming and begs, literally begs for a chance to bring steve in before someone’s sent to kill him instead. tony puts his everything on the line for steve then. and he’s so hurt, physically as well now, he’s bleeding, his left arm hurts (his heart hurts :))) ) and all he tries to do is to save steve

the airport scene

THE FUCKING AIRPORT SCENE

with tony having his heart on his sleeve in the most obvious ways possible

and really this whole fucking conversation

you’ve been busy

and you’ve been a complete idiot!

look at how out of it tony is already. he has a black eye (haha do you want to talk about tony opening his faceplate without prompting :))) ) and he’s so done he knows either steve goes with him or he gets killed sooner or later and steve refuses to listen. and look, tony doesn’t know what steve knows at that point. and steve doesn’t really have hard proof either.

so tony’s there trying to convince him but at the end of his line and he’s snapping and he keeps asking and his voice keeps rising and he tries and fails to compose himself so many times

i’m trying to – i’m trying to keep you from tearing the avengers apart

that fucking pause there? he looks away, he shakes his head, he can’t even talk for a moment, it’s so fucking important

steve’s answer? you did that when you signed.

he could stab him as well

and even then tony keeps trying

(do you want to talk about 616 and tony extending his hand and steve EMP-ing him)

except he’s really hurt, really done

so his trying changes into all right, we’re done and he actually spells it out for steve what is going to happen you’re going to come with us, now, because it’s US, and not a squad of j-soc guys with no compunction about being impolite

and there’s a cut to nat, and steve looking around, and back to tony, and he’s hoping, he’s hoping so hard, as if his hope can actually convince steve

he looks away too, and this little come on escapes him

and steve refuses.

(and i’d like to note how at the beginning there tony is like rhodey, you take cap, as if he doesn’t actually want to fight him himself, and then he literally says his plan was to take it easy, he never wanted a full out fight fuck everything, and then RHODEY GETS HURT and it’s all of tony’s nightmare neatly wrapped into one)

and tony watches rhodey being scanned, learns he might be crippled, knows it’s his fault because he’s tony stark, everything is his fault

and then he learns steve might’ve been right

and he leaves immediately to tell ross, to help steve

and ross threatens to arrest him, ross shows him his friends in the raft, his friends who hate him (even though tony is right! they broke the law, each and every one, willingly), and tony still begs them for a chance to help steve

and sam tells him, so tony follows steve

and their meeting is so great? tony’s wary, but yet again opens his faceplate

tells steve he was right. steve accepts his help. tony’s so relieved. he jokes. (he’d have to arrest himself. because it’s true)

it’s so light for a moment

and then zemo shows them the video, and tony watches his parents, his mum getting killed by the man steve risked everything to protect (risked tony to protect)

and tony closes his eyes at some points. he can’t watch. and then he only wants to know one thing.

did you know

and he knows the answer

don’t bullshit me, rogers, did you know

and it’s then when he snaps, just lashes out, wants to hurt bucky (and i’d like to note that even then he’s consciously trying not to kill them. he’s in his full armour. he can take on the hulk or level cities. instead he ties steve’s legs and aims at the walls to cut off their escape and the most damage he does to one of them is to blow bucky’s mechanical arm off, when he’s trying to save his own life)

and the worst line happens

i’m sorry, tony. but he’s my friend.

so was i.

but i think even then it dawns to tony … that maybe no. maybe it was only ever one-sided.

at the end, when steve has tony down and keeps hitting him, and smashes his helmet, and raises his shield–tony covers his face, and he’s convinced steve will kill him

i think steve thought so for a second too

instead, steve smashes the armour reactor. literally breaks tony’s heart. and for a few long seconds, they just look at each other. and it’s all there. all of it. all the could have beens and all the broken trust and all the things they’ll never rebuild now

i ship them in mcu now, because it’s fucking tragic, and i roll like that

but also because, my shipping glasses aside, you can totally see one-sided unrequited love on tony’s part. he really thought steve was his friend. that it ran both ways. he did it all for a man he loved.

they’re both a mess, a destructive mess at that, and we know tony, every tony, only ever wants to be loved. and honestly, after the emotional rollercoaster of tony feels in cacw? i ship them. because it’s terrible and it makes sense, and there’s this steve can only be this mad because he loved tony too

and then there’s imagine if they were in a relationship before

and steve actually calls first

and tony is left with nothing at the end. rhodey’s alive, but hurt, and tony blames himself. vision is there, but every time tony looks at him, he remembers jarvis is gone.

steve sends him a letter, and a phone, and tony doesn’t call; tony knows how it’d end. (tony’s not steve’s friend.)

steve might call.

this movie really wonderfully destroys tony, and you can argue it destroys steve, either, and this is when i’m interested in them.

I don’t even know how to feel about this. I obviously have been playing for too long.

Loki has a weird crush on Tony, and he’s jealous of Sam when they spend time together, but he also doesn’t? He’s such an asshole, and he doesn’t really show any affection, to anyone, actually. He’s so caught up on his own schemes and manipulating people that anything with Tony would get caught up in that.
Tony is somehow always ok with people putting him down, and thats gonna have negative repercussions eventually (although the game is light-hearted and will probably never show it). He’s also looking for a date, desperately enough that he’s asking almost everyone, although he hasn’t shown any explicit interest in Loki yet.
Tony’s attention/approval seeking and Loki’s manipulations are a bad mix, and any relationship that happens is going to be unhealthy, and especially painful for Tony.

ok but that ask that dailysuperhusbands posted hurts SO MUCh because it’s so fucking obvious that tony loves steve and considers him one of the most important people in his life, and like, i have no doubt that steve thinks of tony highly too, butTONY IS SO OBVIOUS THAT IT HURTSS LIKE TO THE POINT WHERE TONY DREAMS ABOUT HIM AND WHEN TONY CALLS RHODEY, RHODEY’S FIRST REACTION IS “WHAT’S WRONG? IS CAPTAIN AMERICA MAD AT YOU AGAIN?” AND TONY JUSTT WILL DROP EVERYTHING TO HELP OUT STEVE AND CALLS HIM “BELOVED” AND HE SAYS THAT THE DAY THEY FOUND STEVE IN THE ICE WAS THE “BEST DAY OF HIS LIFE” AND WHAT’S WORSE IS THAT EVERYONE KNOWS IT LIKE EEVRYONE KNOWS HOW IMPORTANT STEVE IS TO TONY AND IT JUST HURTS OK LIKE EVEN IF YOU DON’T SHIP THEM YOU CANNOT DENY THAT TONY. LOVES. STEVE. FCUK I NEED TO LIE DOWN 

ok but their lil smiles, sittin together on the couch, why is it steve/tony tbh why cant it be steve/thor, i can get behind that i can SHIP IT TO ASGARD AND BACK

“everyone thinks we’re idiots, thor”

“that is their folly, steven, you and i both know we can be exceedly attractive and smarter than both the genius doctors put together”

“that’s a good point”

“i often make them”

“are you ever going to tell them you fucking hate poptarts tho”

“only if you tell them you can work a smartphone”

“touche”

“i would like to [leer]”

“…and you’re STILL smoother than stark”

[then they go nobly and honorably wrestle in some oil and laugh at how the 21st century thinks they're the ones who are backward]

20000dollarnosebleed  asked:

Ok so honest question, why do people ship Loki and tony? Not that it's bad or anything I just wondered if there was any specific reason or is it just because they seem cute together or something?

That is a good question and unfortunately I cannot answer for anyone except myself. Everyone has their own reasons for starting to ship them. Some of those reasons could be because they think they are cute together, or their dynamic of  the “good guy vs. bad guy”, or because of what they saw of them in The Avengers. Really, it could be anything.

For me, personally, it was quite like that, I came across this pairing entirely by accident. I was (still am) following someone who was into them as a pairing and talking about Off The Record. At first I was all like “Loki and Tony what???? How is that a pairing?” I never really entertained the two of them together, but it got me interested and I kinda just watched from the sidelines as the couple of people on my dash talked about and fangirled over them. The Avengers wasn’t even out yet, so didn’t quite ‘get it’ from the perspective that I’d never seen the two of them interact with each other, but then I read a short drabble which just consisted of Loki and Tony in bed and Loki being a grumpy ass because Tony wouldn’t get off his computer. And that was it for me, something in my brain just clicked and I was like 'oh, I see now’ and it was pretty much it and I’ve loved them together ever since. 

Again I cannot say this for everyone, but for me what I love about them is because they’re just so damn similar but not. They’re both not just 'good’ and 'bad’, they have their good ideologies and they have their bad ideologies that both overlap and also are damn opposing. They both are extremely powerful men in their own rights and yet they’re very alone and feel isolated to a degree that others just don’t get. Tony and Loki share similar problems in the respect that they are both geniuses and that aspect sometimes alienate them from others; they both have father/family issues up the wazoo, and they’re both showmen that definitely know how to play a crowd. 

Now putting these two together it would seem like it would just be a disaster on a Hiroshima level, but they’re such complex and layered characters that there is just so much that you can do with them and explore. They’re players and I like to think that they find it a challenge because they can see through the bullshit and not just be defeated all that easily. If one pushes the other shoves back, so it’s never boring. 

Also the sass. So much sass and snark and banter is like a dream come true. Sometimes it works for other pairings where one part of the equation is the sassy one, but these two have been in the spotlight since birth and they’re not taking anything from anyone, even each other.

Plus the fact that they are good looking and imagining them have hot, sweaty, long, marathon bouts of sex is a good factor as well.

I hope that gives you a little insight onto why I and some others ship them. :)

You can also check out the FrostIron Manifesto for more insight into the fandom/pairing.