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Was Spock the first human/Vulcan hybrid?

First contact between humans and Vulcans occurred in 2063. Spock was born in 2230. If you listen to some Star Trek fans, that means 167 years passed before both our species decided to bear some sex fruit. Let’s be real though, 167 years is a long time for two civilizations to interact with each other without at least someone from one group deciding to bone someone from the other group, particularly when you consider the populations of both civilizations numbers in the billions.

We might say, “Maybe interspecies sex was just too big of a taboo! Maybe it took that long for barriers to finally start coming down.” Yeah, maybe. Or maybe it’s like Hagrid once said of Dobby the house elf: “Yeh get weirdos in every breed.” Even if 9,999,999,999 humans thought the idea of having sex with an alien was weird or unnatural, there would always be at least one exceptionally progressive person who could see beyond everyone else’s prejudices and pre-conceived notions, and I’m certain the same is true for Vulcans. I would almost be willing to bet that at least one of the first Vulcans who rolled off the T’Plana-Hath on that April morning in 2063 in Bozeman, Montana saw one of the locals and thought, “That human is aesthetically pleasing.” And all it takes is a spark, right? Besides, who wouldn’t want to hear a Vulcan pickup line?

And all the panties fell off as if by magic.

Moreover, in 1957, 106 years before official First Contact between humans and Vulcans, a small Vulcan survey ship crash-landed near Carbon Creek, Pennsylvania. There were only three survivors, and of those three, one of them just couldn’t stop himself from falling for the single mom who ran the local bar. Granted, Maggie didn’t know Mestral was Vulcan, but he definitely knew she was human, and a trivial thing like species didn’t seem to matter to him.

Smitten personified.

But wait, just because a few amorous, adventurous, or convention-hating humans and Vulcans might be willing to stand up and proudly (or maybe more discreetly) proclaim, “Love is love, fuck the haters” and get naked with each other, that doesn’t mean they were making babies because after all, humans and Vulcans are genetically incompatible and it would take a feat of medical engineering to swap gametes, right?

Argue if you want, but human/Vulcan sexy time dates back to at least 2153.

People who believe Spock must have been the first hybrid usually stake this claim on one or more of four arguments:

1.     Humans and Vulcans didn’t shack up routinely enough
2.     The science of making a hybrid baby didn’t exist until Spock came along
3.     Gene Roddenberry said so
4.     Spock clearly felt isolated as a child, but he wouldn’t have if there were more hybrids like him

I’ve already poked enough holes in the first claim. Maybe there weren’t a ton of interspecies couples, but I feel confident in saying there were at least some and some is all we need. And once people decide they like each other enough to form relationships, it’s usually not long before at least some of them start thinking, “You know what would make this better? A smaller version of us!”

As for the science behind making a hybrid baby, it existed in the mid 22nd century. Spock wasn’t the first. That’s a fact. Elizabeth, the hybrid child of Charles “Trip” Tucker and T’Pol, existed in 2154.

Pointy ears and pinchable cheeks.  

Elizabeth sadly died as a result of the improper cloning techniques used to conceive her, so there are many who would take the statement of “Spock was the first human/Vulcan hybrid” and simply add the caveat of “to survive.” Perhaps. But in the Star Trek: Enterprise episode “Terra Prime,” Trip says:

I spoke with Phlox. It turns out there was a flaw in the technique that Paxton’s doctors used in the cloning process. Human DNA and Vulcan DNA, Phlox says there’s no medical reason why they can’t combine. So if a Vulcan and a human ever decided to have a child, it’s probably be ok. And that’s sort of comforting.

So a Denobulan doctor knew a way to make hybrids a full 75 years before Spock was conceived. Maybe the technology was untested and required some refining, but by even a modern a technological timeline, 75 years is an eternity.  

There’s an interview between Gene Roddenberry and Mark Lenard which claims Spock was the first, and so a lot of people might be happy to believe whatever Roddenberry said was the gospel. In the interview, Roddenberry is interviewing Mark Lenard as Ambassador Sarek, asking him questions about humanity and his life when the subject of Spock comes up.

Mark Lenard: Spock’s mother Amanda is an extraordinary woman.
Gene Roddenberry: And Spock was the result? The first human/Vulcan mixture?
Mark Lenard: No, not the first, but the first to survive. As you must know, an Earth/Vulcan conception will abort during the end of the first month; the fetus is unable to continue life once it begins to develop its primary organs. The fetus Spock was removed from Amanda’s body at this time: the first such experiment ever attempted. His tiny form resided in a test tube for the following two Earth months while our physicians performed delicate chemical engineering, introducing over a 100 subtle changes we hoped would sustain life. At the end of this time, the fetus was returned to Amanda’s womb. At the ninth Earth month, the tiny form was again removed from Amanda, prematurely by Vulcan standards, and spent the following four months of Vulcan term pregnancy in a specially designed incubator. The infant Spock proved surprisingly resilient. There seemed to be something about the Earth/Vulcan mixture which created in that tiny body the fierce determination to survive.

So for some fans, maybe that counts as proof. But Gene Roddenberry had a lot of conceptual ideas about his beloved Star Trek that conflict with actual canon and modern science. For a prime example, just look at the treatment of star dates. So maybe it’s me, but I don’t think something is canon just because Roddenberry said it in an interview once. Furthermore, if we take that interview as canon, how do we explain this scene from The Final Frontier where Spock is delivered from Amanda (not a “specially designed incubator”) and presented to Sarek?

Then Sarek went and uttered one of the most dick lines in Trek history.

Lastly, there’s the isolation that Spock feels. How can we explain how lonely he is if it’s not because he’s the only hybrid? Quite easily, actually. Every single person in existence has felt misunderstood and alone at times. As children, our worlds are very small and our social circles consist of our immediate families, school mates, and our parents’ associates. That’s pretty much it. When we aren’t exposed to people like us, it’s very easy to imagine Rocket Raccoon might have been onto something when he said, “Ain’t no thing like me, except me!”

But that’s very rarely literally true, as every kid who’s ever been the only minority at their school or any teen who’s ever been the only gay person in their tiny conservative town will tell you. As we get older and achieve the freedom to strike out and meet people on our own terms, we often learn we weren’t quite as unique as we thought and there are whole groups of people out there who are black or gay or disabled or whatever it was that left us feeling so alone in our formative years. I think that’s why Spock’s character resonated so much with viewers – he was a symbol for all the misfits out there who knew just how much it sucks trying to fit into the fabric of a society that seems so different than they are.

 Proof that regardless of species, kids can be fucking awful. 

Vulcan was a big planet. By the time Nero destroyed it in Star Trek: 2009, it had more than 6 billion inhabitants. Even if there were only 100 human/Vulcan hybrids by that point in time, the odds of an average Vulcan encountering one would still be incredibly small. It’s entirely possible Spock may have felt like he was the only hybrid because he might have been the only one in his community, but the universe is a big place with plenty of room for other human/Vulcan hybrids he and those vicious bullies never met. 

Spock was clearly pretty special. Even people who hate Star Trek and know almost nothing about it know who Spock was and recognize the Vulcan salute Leonard Nimoy made famous in his portrayal of the character. But just because Spock’s human ancestry made him unusual doesn’t necessarily mean his conception was some completely novel, groundbreaking, pioneering leap for interspecies relationships either. 

I can’t say I know many Vulcans, but I think I have a pretty firm grasp on humanity. Despite homosexual, interracial, and interfaith relationships being taboo and even illegal in many countries until relatively recently (and sadly still are in some places) there have always been people who decided they didn’t care and took a chance on love. So I don’t buy the idea that humans and Vulcans could live and work together even in a limited capacity for more than a century and a half before making the jump into starting families.

Chris Pine Request

May I ask for a Chris Pine imagine,please? where he’s on an interview(maybe the Ellen show) and he’s talking about how he managed to convice his now wife to go on a date with him,because their mutual friend Zachary Quinto who said she loves Frank Sinatra and he serenates for her (ever since I heard him sing ,that’s all I think about ) ;)

“And we are back from break talking to Chris Pine about the newest installment of the Star Trek series. Just before break we were talking about his relationship with the cast, as this is their fourth movie together, and we started talking about someone you are very close with on set…,” Ellen said smiling at Chris, “your wife, Y/N.”

“Yes, my wonderful wife Y/N,” he blushed.

“So tell us, you two started dating after the first movie in 2009, how did your relationship start on set?”

He laughed and settled back into the seat. “Well, the second I saw Y/N on set I was completely head over heels. I didn’t want to make any moves right away because I didn’t want to make the set awkward but Zach Quinto picked up right away by my shameless flirting that I liked her. I think Y/N just thought I was trying to be funny or that I was a natural flirt so she just kind of put up with me,” the audience laughed at your husband’s flustered face.

“Zach and Y/N had become pretty good friends real quick so, about a month before filming finished, I went to Quinto and told him I needed ideas to ask her out on a date. He was telling me all her interests and what her favorite things were and he mentioned that she was a big Frank Sinatra fan. So, being the smooth man that I am, I thought it would be a great idea to serenade her and ask her out to dinner.”

“Oh, you know what,” Ellen said like she was shocked, “I think our good friend Zachary Quinto sent in the video he took of it!”

“Oh no,” Chris put a hand over his face as the video rolled. Zach was hiding behind something on set as he filmed and recorded the scene as Chris walked over to you, as you sat and read lines, and started singing I’ve Got You Under My Skin. Everyone watched as your eyes went wide and a large grin took over your face.

“Chris, what are you doing,” they heard you ask and he stopped singing long enough to answer you.

“I’m going to sing to you until you agree to go out for dinner with me,” he said and jumped right back into where he left off, getting louder this time. People around set started looking and laughing at the sight before them.

“Ok!” You shouted with a smile and Chris stopped singing. “Ok, I’ll go on a date with you.”

“I’ll pick you up at 6:30.” The video cut off and the audience clapped.

“It seems like that date went well,” Ellen joked.

“It did,” Chris looked up to the screen where a picture of your family popped up and an “Aw” took over the audience. “ I’d say after 7 years of being together, being married for 5 years, and one kid with another on the way, it’s still going pretty good.”

How I Went From Loving To Hating “The Expanse” In One Week

Here’s a probably long, rambling rant about The Expanse.  Cards on the table, I haven’t read the books and I’ve stopped at Season 2 Episode 5.  Other than what my husband’s told me about what he’s read in the books, I haven’t delved into any of the fandom or history of the series.  This is just me ranting about what I consumed via the TV series alone.  Buckle up.

So I’m a sci-fi nerd.  I like Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate, Battlestar Galactica…. basically if it has a Star in it, I’m a fan.  So people are telling me, I need to watch The Expanse.  It’s a new show on SyFy (that’s how they spell it now, right?) and it’s really good!  I’m nervous about falling in love with a new show–Firefly, Timeless (cancelled, and then uncancelled?), SGU, Continuum (but at least they got a chance to tie everything up)–not a great history of sci-fi shows sticking around long term.  But then I was hunting for something new to watch these last couple weeks and finally decided to try The Expanse.

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Eyes That Know

Summary: The reader is a rock star with heavy addiction issues.  Sam is a former rocker who has been to rehab and been sober for a number of years.  When the two meet at a party sparks fly and they fall into a romance.  After losing one girlfriend to addiction, Sam can’t do it again and makes the reader choose between him and her drugs.  

Author: revwinchester

Pairing/Characters: Sam Winchester x Reader, Lucifer, Dean Winchester, Adam Milligan, Jimmy Novak, Ruby, Amelia Richardson

Word Count: 5697, including lyrics (which are italicized throughout)

Warnings: talk and use of soft and hard drugs, implied prostitution, cocaine overdose, major character deaths, mention of minor character death, mental illness - specifically addiction, anxiety, and depression, all the angst.  Also, one of the character deaths could be read as suicide - though it’s not intended to be one - and the song lyrics mention the historical suicide of Vincent Van Gogh.

A/N: This ended up being for two challenges and it is the angstiest thing I have ever written.  I cried while I wrote it.  First, @nichelle-my-belle is hosting Nichelle’s 4K Angst Challenge and my prompt was “if you kill all my demons, my angels might die too.”  I was looking for a song to frame the fic when @thing-you-do-with-that-thing announced the SPN Anti-Valentine’s Challenge and I saw one of the prompts was “Josh Groban - Starry Night,” which is a cover of Don McLean’s “Vincent,” a song I absolutely love.  You can bet I snapped that one up real quick! Click on each of the links to head to youtube for two different versions of the song.  They are so different but each are beautiful in their own right (though, if you’ve never heard it before, I recommend you start with the original).

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A/N: i wrote this about 2 months ago, sorry if its terrible, there will be a part 2

Pairing: Leonard “Bones” McCoy x reader

Warnings: angst? fluff? badly written? based off of Into Darkness, first Star Trek fan fiction 

Word Count: 956

Summary:  You work in engineering with Chekov, (temporarily). Chekov is the only one who knows about your crush on the CMO of the enterprise, will your emotions be able to keep themselves together when he flirts with a woman.

Translations: Все в порядке, все будет хорош - All right, everything will be good

Permanent Taglist: @burningarbiterheart @weirdnewbie


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Awful Sexism in Star Trek DS9 Graphic Novel

Hey guys! I’m a huge Star Trek fan, especially of the show Deep Space Nine. So when I saw a Star Trek DS9 graphic novel in a comic shop during my college NY trip, I was really excited!

And here’s the thing, its a great story! The characterizations are spot, the plot feels exactly like a real episode of DS9, and for the most part the art is pretty good! I especially loved that Garak plays an important part in the  story, since he’s one of my favorite characters in DS9. The ending was perfect as well.

But there was one glaringly obvious and frankly distracting problem that persisted throughout the book. Lets take a look shall we?

Ok, so far so good, I like the color palate, and look, they even gave Morn an appearance! Lets keep going.

Oh look, its Sisko and Dax! They look pretty good! The office looks good too. So far the beginning of this book is promising.

…hmm, wonder where Major Kira is? Oh here she comes!

Wait…why can I see both of her individual boobs through her thick military uniform? Well, it dosnt’ look that bad, it could be wor….

What the fuck!? That’s not even anatomically correct! And they are huge!

The boobs are not only to big, they are to low, and it should be impossible to see them like that through her uniform!

They basically turned Major Kira, one of the strongest most badass woman in Star Trek, into walking boobs!

Half the time this sexist artist doesn’t’ even bother with proper anatomy! Just as long as you see huge curves. She is basically drawn naked, with her curves hugely exaggerated and her clothes just painted on! 

And what the fuck?! You can even see her collar bone through supposedly padded fabric! THATS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE!!

Look at this! Its ridiculous! and just look and the third image above! He didn’t even bother to give her pupils or a nose, but her chest is drawn and colored with great detail! 

Just look at the difference here between Kira and these awful drawings!

Gah! It makes me so mad!

Left is a pic of everyone else, looking normal. And right is the last time in the  comic that we see Kira grace us with her boobs, oops, I meant her presence.  

Now I’m not saying that sexy, big boobed women in thin clothes are a bad thing. For example if It was this fine lady below being drawn like this:

It would be totally fine.

But taking a woman and changing her appearance, making her assets larger, and making the clothes basically see through when they shouldn’t be, just  to pander to giving men something to oogle, Is soo  grose and wrong.

Now I know that shit like this is common in super hero comics, but from a Star Trek book I expected better. And its obvious that they are capable, just look at some of the art that was put at the back of the book!

The last one is from the cover.

Why couldn’t they do the rest of the book like this?!

And here is an even simpler great fanart of kira that i found.

By Dennis Budd

Now This is how you  do it!

It's just sad and so disappointing. The way Kira is portrayed was so distracting, and ruined an otherwise good book.

Reaction: Chris Pine as Steve Trevor

Today we got the news that Chris Pine was no Hal Jordan, but a different pilot altogether.

I’m a WonderBat fan, but I’m also a general DC fan, so I think I need to approach this piece of news by wearing my two hats. I’ll wear the larger white hat first.

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Other things that us WonderBat fans can learn from Olivia Pope in this time

I’m a post-Pérez Wonder Woman fan so I’ve never really had the chance to see Steve as a proper love interest, instead growing up on DCAU and/or having Diana be a single independent woman in most of her incarnations. My first experience with Steve was the 2009 movie, and I went in thinking, Ok, Gail Simone did this so it’s going to be amazing and I will try my best to look beyond my shipper glasses and understand before I continue to declare my allegiance to WonderBat

So I watched it. I loved the depiction of all the women. Gail Simone deserves all the awards for all the women, from Hippolyta to Artemis to Persephone and Diana was just the amazing woman that I always loved. There was only one problem: I couldn’t get onto the Steve Trevor express.

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Me too, Steve, me too, by the time I got to the ending scene

If Man of Steel started amazing and then went through a tough bit before getting to the cathartic end where everything was amazing again, Wonder Woman was amazing all the way till it got to the end and then the comic relief character suddenly was her love interest with little to no build-up beyond that one hospital scene where she realised he had feelings for her. Which, by the by, ended like THIS:

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Let me tell you something, dear reader. I get tsundere. I read Japanese manga before I got into comics. I watched a lot of Korean dramas in my formative years where all the male leads behave like children who like to bully the girls they like. I even read romance novels where the men also tend towards immaturity when they won’t say they’re in love. So believe me when I say that there was no chemistry and not enough build up to that moment when she decided she was suddenly calf-eyed over him. None at all. It could have been an amazing movie about male and female friendship where after the hijinks of their respective views and his being attracted to her, they became best friends. If it went from there to become more than friendship, fine, with good writing I can accept it. But to quote Susan Eisenberg, My heart belongs to Batman!

I rarely say this about characters whom I’ve not spent time psychoanalysing (read my Laurel appreciation post), but I’m not a fan of Steve Trevor. I find him really annoying to watch when he’s not being put in his place by Diana, but I suspect it’s because we don’t really get a lot of him beyond the misguided Golden and Silver Age stuff and now he’s just a broody angsty man in the New 52, much like almost every other New 52 man. (Okay, I overgeneralise.) The movie version of him was cocky and overly friendly, and like Hippolyta I was not predisposed to like him after he referred to Diana upon first meeting her as the one with the nice rack. No. Just no.

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More of this would have been great, instead of the WHY DID YOU DO THE THING DIANA??? I had to ask myself at the end of the film

I appreciate that he is an important part of the DC mythos, and particularly important to Wonder Woman’s supportive cast. I think it was good that Pérez included him, and I applaud DC’s decision to do so now, in the upcoming film. I think Chris Pine is a fantastic choice for the character, because given his previous performances in Star Trek, I am 100% sold on his ability to play a winsome roguish if somewhat pervy character, and I would love to see his jovial nature play off the intenseness with which Gal Gadot seems to be playing Diana. Steve and Diana do work on some level, in that he’s the jokey one and she’s the really focused one, which will be fun to watch. They just don’t need to be a couple for that to happen! I want to see Diana and Bruce make sarcastic cracks at each other instead!!!!  Moreover, should DC go with the New 52 ARGUS-spin on his backstory beyond the whole hotshot pilot, it would be amazing watching how Chris Pine acts alongside Viola Davis’s Amanda Waller. I can just see Amanda Waller putting him in his place when he tells her to lighten up. Okay, maybe I just like seeing Steve Trevor being put in his place, just like how Bruce telling Wally off in JL was hilarious. 

Steve is a valuable character in how he’s so supportive of Diana as Wonder Woman once he is in the know and I think that his personal journey in accepting her trumphing him in every way is a very good conduit for the audience. Especially for the people I know who insist on mansplaining to me about why feminism is a conspiracy women have created to take over the world. I’d like to see Chris play Steve as a real character, not just as comic relief or a stand-in for some ideal, but someone who grew up mentally acknowledging that yes, women and men should be equal in opportunities but has never dealt with a woman who’s better than him in most of the ways he has traditionally been strong in. This is a Steve that I think people can get behind, and I do think that Chris Pine himself has just enough charm to pull off the cocksure womaniser part of the character.

As a WonderBat fan I won’t deny my feelings of NOOOOOOOOOOOOO when I saw the news, but as a DC fan I’m all for Chris Pine as Steve Trevor. I can’t wait to watch how he brings the character to life in the live action Wonder Woman, though I will more than happily relish the dance scene in BVS:DOJ.

Because to me this:

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Will always be better than this:

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Taylor make out imagine !

“Babe where the heck out we going ” you say. You laughed at the uncertainty of the situation. Your boyfriend Taylor just got his new car and would drive anyone anywhere if they asked. But he said he was surpising you and you guys had been driving for at least an hour! Up hills and down hills. “ Show me a little trusty eh ! ” he said. The radio was blasting and a little but of a throwback “ with you ” by Chris brown. Taylor began his mini fan girl attack. “ oooooo I’m into you and girl oh no one else but you ” he sang loud and proud. He was holding you hand so he was fling around your arm every time he moved. Dam boy almost dislocated your shoulder ! At the end of the song he literally hit the break sending to flying. “ you asshole what was the for !” You yelled rubbing your for head. “ we are here ” he said with such a devilish grin but you couldn’t help but wanna kiss him ! He has rushed out throwing something over the hood of the car. Then coming around to you. “ comeeee on slowwww poke !!” He said dragging out of the car.“ Ok babe I’m gonna lift you to the hood "he said. Before you could even process the information being given to you he had already but you on the hood of the ….. It was one tall ass car ! Soon enough he came to join you :)! ” ok now this is why I brought you here look up “ as you did you saw a beautiful starry sky there were at least a thousand In your view ! You never saw this you had lived in Cali your entire life. ” you I this is gorgoues taylor ! “ you said almost speechless at the beauty you saw before you. ” I have wanted to bring you for awhile but never had a good enough car to make the trek “ he smiled you couldn’t help but stare when he smiled. He never smiled much in picture but in person if you saw him smile it was so perfect it looked drawn on. He stop talking when he saw me staring and began leaning in. With him gone so much these kisses meant so much more because you missed them so much. You guys were in perfect sync he was being dominate because you let him win you knew that made him happy having the complete control. He put some of his body weight on you leaning on you. This felt like a movie the stars the kiss it almost felt unreal. ” you know these stars aren’t assss bright" he said. You look at him in utter confusion “ as bright as out eyes lol those beautiful big eyes are 10x better than any starry night you could ever show me. ” he said your heart melted he was the biggest sweetheart ! “ I love you (y/n) and stop letting me win I like challenges” he stated “ oh really ” you said with a flirtatious smirk. He wanted a challenge huh “ then come here caniff here’s your challenge ” you called pulling his shirt bring his lip to you. Let’s just say you never give up without a fight ;)