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I’m am legitimately scared for what may happen surrounding North Korea

North Korea is a bomb ready to go off. As much as I want all their inhumane acts to end, and for Kim Jong Un to go down, it’s all one big powder keg of fire, nuclear radiation, and political drama ready to go off.

Being so close near it all (South Korea, Daejeon area), I can feel the tension in the air.

All I can ask perhaps it to pray/send wishes to not just myself but for all of South Korea and the innocents in North Korea… or just anyone who may end up in a possible unfortunate crossfire.

I have no idea how my neighbors are reacting yet. I found out just minutes ago.

So it finally happened.

Well, I say finally. It only took a few months, which isn’t long at all. So, what am I talking about? Well, when I heard that Trump sent ships to North Korea my response was basically, yeah, that makes sense. Of course that happened. Of course Trump was allowed to send military force to threaten a country that doesn’t really have the ability to threaten us.

I’m not the only one either, apparently. The democrats are lining up to approve of the expensive and ineffectual bombing of Syria, with the most common complaint being that Hilary didn’t get to. This also doesn’t surprise me, because the legal authorities only benefit from the illusion of the status quo being acceptable. Trump’s clusterfuck of a presidency is preferable to reworking the system to eliminate state violence for these people.

So here I am. I’m getting threat fatigue. Sure would be nice if the republicans would get threat fatigue, but as I understand it their brains don’t work that way. Trump trying to start world war 3 hits me as business as usual now, and John Q Public doesn’t have the memory span to know why this isn’t what he wants. Chemical attacks killing children, absolutely terrible. Too bad we couldn’t have done something. Oh wait, we had that option and refused.

I’m going off on a tangent here and I’m going to put forward a bad idea. Ok, so we know that the war in Syria is largely a proxy war. Fuck proxy wars. If we cared about the people we’re backing, we would attack the other side’s backers. Distract from the proxy war with a direct war and let the people settle. Now, obviously this would result in a lot of deaths, making it a bad idea, but proxy wars are meat grinders that we throw otherwise uninvolved people into. By backing any side we just add fuel to whatever fire is already there.

But the political establishment has effectively endorsed Trump, as we knew they would, because the alternative would be disassembling the oppressive power structure that is their bread and butter. Maybe it’s ok if Trump isn’t the focus of the fight, but that doesn’t mean the fight is over. It is just more proof of the necessity of the fight. They are not here for us. They are there for the rich and connected. Don’t let threat fatigue drown your fire. Remember friends, burn your flags and kill your heroes.

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I don’t know if you guys are aware that trump has sent carriers to North Korea waters due to threats..once again by N korea. so lets say a prayer for everyone, I am back in the states now but I have family and friends that are still there. It’s not uncommon for N korea to send bombs to S korea and it’s mostly ignore because they cause minimal damage but N korea talking about nukes and with trump getting involved it makes it a little more scary.

GUYS! I NEED HELP! So this May I’m suppose to go to Japan BUT my parents are thinking of not letting me because of North Korea’s threat of dropping a nuclear bomb on Tokyo. Please, if anyone is in Japan, can you please tell me the situation there? And if it’s safe to visit. I’m a bit worried myself but I really want to go… Is it that bad there? Plz, any info would help :(

wsj.com
Trump Says He Offered China Better Trade Terms in Exchange for Help on North Korea
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he has offered Chinese President Xi Jinping a more favorable trade deal for Beijing in exchange for his help on confronting the threat of North Korea.
By Gerard Baker, Carol E. Lee and Michael C. Bender

Mr. Trump also said his administration won’t label China a currency manipulator in a report due this week, despite promises he made on the campaign trail. Mr. Trump said China has stopped manipulating its currency …

…which anyone who paid attention to the issue would have been able to tell you for years now

He said they hit it off during their first discussion. Mr. Trump said he told his Chinese counterpart he believed Beijing could easily take care of the North Korea threat. Mr. Xi then explained the history of China and Korea, Mr. Trump said.

“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” Mr. Trump recounted. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power” over North Korea,” he said. “But it’s not what you would think.”

-eye twitch, thinks back to:

“Now, I have to tell you, it’s an unbelievably complex subject,” he added. “Nobody knew health care could be so complicated.”

Just……ugggggggggggggggggh. Absolutely any time Trump opens his mouth and says “Oh I didn’t think X was like this” or “X is so complicated”, I just want punch him and say “NO SHIT, WE KNOW THIS SHIT’S COMPLICATED.” Trump is essentially the racist uncle who rambles on at Thanksgiving about “the problems are so damn easy” and the proceeds to say the most nonsensical, uninformed, piece of shit statements you ever hear.

medium.com
North Korea’s Government Is Terrible — And That’s Beside the Point
America doesn’t choose its enemies for their moral qualities
By Andrew Dobbs

When I wrote a piece about how the U.S. government misrepresents North Korea’s alleged threat to the world, I didn’t focus on North Korea’s problems — writing things that everyone already knows is boring.
This failure to mention the regime’s repression, however, led to a great deal of consternation from readers across the political spectrum. Military buffs on one Facebook forum called me a liberal and told me to leave the country.
Actual liberals were aghast — and certain I was confused. Even self-proclaimed socialists on Reddit were scandalized. It truly brought everyone together.
There were many others who liked the article of course, and nowhere in the piece did I say the North Korean government was a good one. Yet arguing that there’s logic behind their actions and a right to self-defense was still widely considered tantamount to endorsing forced labor camps or writing in Kim Jong Un for mayor.
I could see two very clear facts at play here. First, the demand that I write about the North Korean government’s repression had nothing to do with informing readers because everyone knows this fact already. And second, that the failure to say this created stress in the audience, provoking a backlash.

The easy conclusion here is that the reflexive need to relate all writing about North Korea back to their repressive government is a conditioned response, it’s a trope that has become requisite to every story about the country and a sign of the author’s political acceptability.
The function of this programming is obvious. If every story about North Korea has to focus on the government’s repression and most stories about North Korea are told in the context of U.S. military aggression against the country, then the implication is that the U.S. military threatens North Korea because its government is so notably repressive.
But this is obvious bullshit. The United States doesn’t care about human rights or freedom when deciding which nations to support or oppose — North Korea’s repression is irrelevant to America’s military conflict with the country.
Freedom House, an international human rights NGO, publishes a report every year called “Freedom in the World” that classifies the governments of the world as “free,” “partly free” or “not free.” Indexes like this have big problems, but for our purposes this one works.
Freedom House consider North Korea “not free,” just in case anyone was worried.
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There are, in fact, 55 countries labeled “not free” in the last report, and the United States has military or close economic relationships with at least 30 of them — just under 60 percent. I say “at least” because a few of them are hard to judge.
Is the United States allied with Iraq, a “not free” country whose government the United States literally invented? The Iraqis seem pretty tired of America’s shit, but they have let us bomb ISIS, so it’s a tough call.
Similar questions exist for Libya, Yemen and Gambia — basically the countries where we have directly or indirectly intervened in recent years. America’s interventions make countries less free, not more, it seems. Yemen, for example, now has two terrible governments, one the U.S. government supports and the other the USA helps Saudi Arabia commit atrocities to suppress.

Is war coming to North Korea?

The United States and North Korea are hurling threats at one another. In Japan, the sale of bomb shelters is booming. And in South Korea, a country that has seen this all before and is typically nonplussed about a test or two, citizens are feeling a bit anxious. 

Could war really break out on the Korean Peninsula? Could a conventional war lead to the first use of nuclear weapons since 1945? Is this actually for real?

Well, there is some good news and some bad news. But it has to be said, the good news isn’t that great and the bad news is potentially horrific.

First, the good news. On average, big, ugly wars between major countries don’t happen very often. On any given day, the chance of a major war, let alone a war involving nuclear weapons is exceedingly small. On the Korean Peninsula, that probability is reinforced by the fact that none of the key players wants a war. North Korea doesn’t want a war, because it knows it will lose and lose decisively. That would mean the end of the Kim dynasty, and if there’s one thing Chairman Kim Jong-un wants, it’s to stay in power. 

Most South Koreans are similarly allergic to the idea of a large-scale conflict. Yes, North Korea would lose, but along the way, a sizeable chunk of Seoul, the South Korean capital and its most important economic centre, would be devastated by North Korean artillery. Even if the conflict ended without the North getting a conventional/nuclear/chemical shot off, it would still be ruinous. The South would face a human tidal wave of refugees, economic dislocation, and an anxious, defensive China worried about its border. And that’s if it went “well”.

OPINION: Will China intervene in North Korea?

China doesn’t want a war - not on its border, not with nuclear weapons in play, not when its number one vital interest is political stability and sufficient economic growth to keep a poor and potentially restive population focused on dreams of a middle-class life. Japan?

There is nothing in it for Tokyo, except possibly stirring up anti-Japanese feelings that have persisted since the end of World War II. And the last thing Mr Donald Trump needs is a war, not with tens of thousands of US troops in South Korea and Japan. His presidency would be over before it had barely started.

So, no war, right? 

Not so fast.

Unfortunately, wars can break out even when none of the parties wants a war. Leaders may be rational, yes even Kim Jong-un, but that doesn’t mean they are perfect. They can miscalculate the likely response of an adversary; they can misread the situation; they can find themselves backed into a corner where the only “rational” choice they have is to fight. 

Those inadvertent or accidental wars are also rare, even less likely than wars fought on purpose, but they can happen. And the Korean Peninsula happens to be a place where many of the conditions for such a conflict are already present. Poor lines of communication and little understanding of the adversary’s intentions? Check. Lots of bluster and bluffing by the parties? Double check. Military doctrines and force postures that can push small incidents up the ladder to a major confrontation? Again, check.

North Korea is the most isolated, least understood country in the world. The US repeatedly misread Soviet intentions during the Cold War, despite an enormous effort that lasted for decades, and my conversations with government officials in Washington, Seoul, Beijing, and Tokyo give me no reason to believe that we are doing any better with North Korea.

Of course, the North Koreans could tell the US what they want. They could communicate their red lines, but the US has no formal diplomatic relations with the North Koreans and rarely talks to them. And if the North Koreans told Washington where those red lines are, would it believe them? How are we to distinguish the over-the-top threats from the serious warnings? 

And unfortunately, the new US administration has its own issues in this regard. Between late night tweets, contradictory statements by the highest officials in the US government, and threats that are clearly bluffs, how should Pyongyang interpret US “signals”? Will the Kim clan be able to discern when the Trump is serious and when he is posturing? China can act as a go-between, but one has to wonder what gets lost in translation, especially when Beijing has its own interests and the Chinese-North Korean relationship (never great to begin with) further erodes in response to Chinese pressure.

Less well-understood but perhaps more important are doctrines and force postures. The North is outgunned, and they know it. South Korean and US forces are far more capable and have worked assiduously to be able to hit every military asset in North Korea. If you are an American or South Korean, that sounds like a good thing, until you realise how that looks from Pyongyang. 

If I were Mr Kim and I knew my enemies can take out what I have early in a conflict, I would have an itchy trigger finger. Let’s say there is an incident or a murky report of an incident. Is it nothing or is it the beginning of a much-discussed decapitation strike? If he thinks it is the latter, Mr Kim may conclude he better go big and go fast. He will, as they say, have to “use them or lose them”.

Or what if Kim waits, fights a conventional war and then inevitably begins to lose. Popping a nuclear weapon off to stave off regime collapse will be a powerful temptation. Perhaps he will think that by just using one nuclear weapon in a limited way, he can force the US and South Korea to halt their advance or perhaps force a Chinese intervention that would freeze the situation in place. But maybe the Americans and South Koreans don’t get the message. Maybe they think they better escalate in response. 

So yes, it is possible that no government wants a war, but that they chose war, even nuclear war, because it is the “rational” option under extreme circumstances.

The good news is that this is unlikely. The bad news is that it is possible, and the result will be far worse than anyone can possibly imagine.

Dr Jim Walsh is an expert in international security and a Senior Research Associate at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Security Studies Program (SSP). Walsh’s research and writings focus on international security, and in particular, topics involving nuclear weapons.

The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera’s editorial policy.

Baeksang Art Awards nominations 2017: Goblin, Romantic Doctor Kim take the lead; will Park Bo Gum win best actor award?
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The nomination list of the 53rd Baeksang Art Awards, touted as South Korea’s Golden Globes, is out and TV drama series Goblin and Romantic Doctor Kim have bagged the maximum nods in the television category, while The Age of Shadow takes the lead in the movie category.

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Goblin has received five nominations, including Gong Yoo for best actor, Kim Go Eun for best actress and the best drama series. Han Seok Kyu’s Romantic Doctor Kim also received five nominations in the best drama, best director, best actor, best new actor and best script categories.

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Park Bo Gum’s Moonlight Drawn By Clouds received three nominations in best drama, best actor and best new actor categories.

This year, popular actor Park Bo Gum, Gong Yoo and Han Seok Kyu are competing to win the best actor award, while Kim Go Eun, Park Shin Hye and Seo Hyun Jin are competing in the best actress category.

In the movie category, the competition is high as The Handmaiden and The Age of Shadow have been nominated in six categories. Both the movies are competing with Train to Busan, Asura and The Wailing to win the best movie award.

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The 53rd Baeksang Art Awards will take place on May 3 in Seoul,

Check out the complete list of nominees below:

TV Category

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Best Drama
W (MBC), Moonlight Drawn By Clouds (KBS), Romantic Doctor Kim (SBS), Goblin (tvN), Dear My Friends (tvN)

Best Educational Program
I Would Like to Know (SBS) , Docuprime Democracy (EBS), Ssulzun (JTBC), Japanese Invasion 1952 (KBS), Special Knowledge (KBS)

Best Variety Program
I Live Alone (MBC), My Ugly Duckling (SBS), Show Me The Money 5 (Mnet), Knowing Bros (JTBC), Phantom Singer (JTBC)

Best Director
Song Hyun Wook (tvN’s Oh Hae Young Again), Yoo In Shik (SBS’ Romantic Doctor Kim), Lee Eung Bok (tvN Goblin), Jung Dae Yoon (MBC 'W’), Hong Jong Chan (tvN 'Dear My Friends’)

Best Actor
Gong Yoo (tvN - Goblin), Namgoong Min (KBS - Chief Kim), Park Bogum (KBS - Moonlight Drawn By Clouds), Jo Jung Seok (SBS - Jealousy Incarnate) , Han Seok Kyu (SBS - Romantic Doctor Kim)

Best Actress
Kim Go Eun (tvN - Goblin), Kim Ha Neul (KBS - On the Way to the Airport), Park Bo Young (JTBC - Strong Woman Do Bong Soon), Park Shin Hye (SBS - Doctors), Seo Hyun Jin (tvN - Oh Hae Young Again)

Best New Actor
Gong Myung (tvN - Drinking Solo), Kim Min Seok (SBS - Doctors), Kim Min Jae (SBS - Romantic Doctor Kim), Ji Soo (JTBC - Strong Woman Do Bong Soon), Jinyoung (KBS - Moonlight Drawn By Clouds)

Best New Actress
Kang Hanna (SBS - Moon Lovers), Gong Seung Yeon (KBS - God of Noodles), Nana (tvN - Good Wife), Minah (SBS - Beautiful Gong Shim), Lee Se Young (KBS - Laurel Tree Tailors)

Variety Award (Male)
Kim Guk Jin (SBS - Flaming Youth), Kim Jong Min (KBS - 1N2D), Park Soo Hong (SBS - My Ugly Duckling), Yang Se Hyung (SBS - Mobidic), Yoo Min Sang (KBS - Gag Concert)

Variety Award (Female)
Kim Sook (KBS - Unnies Slam Dunk), Park Na Rae (MBC - I Live Alone), Lee Soo Ji (KBS - Gag Concert), Jang Do Yeon (tvN - Comedy Big League), Hong Yoon Hwa - (SBS - People Looking for Laughter)

Best Script
Kang Eun Kyung’s Romantic Doctor Kim (SBS), Kim Eun Sook’s Goblin (tvn), Noh Hee Kyung’s Dear My Friends (tvN), Park Hae Young’s Oh Hae Young Again (tvN), Song Jae Jung’s W (MBC)

MOVIE Category

Best Movie
The Wailing , The Age of Shadows , Train to Busan, The Handmaiden, Asura

Best Director
Kim Sung Soo (Asura, Kim Ji Woon (The Age of Shadows), Na Hong Jin (The Wailing) , Park Chan Wook (The Handmaiden), Hong Sang Soo (On the Beach at Night Alone)

Best New Director
Yeon Sang Ho (Train to Busan), Yoon Ga Eun (The World of Us), Lee Yo Seob (The Queen of Crime), Lee Joo Young (A Single Rider), Lee Hyun Joo (Our Love Story)

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Best Actor
Kwak Do Won (The Wailing), Song Kang Ho (The Age of Shadows), Yoo Hae Jin (Luck Key, Lee Byung Hun (Master), Ha Jung Woo (Tunnel)

Best Actress
Kim Min Hee (The Handmaiden), Kim Hye Soo (Familyhood), Son Ye Jin (The Last Princess) , Yoon Yeo Jung (The Bacchus Lady), Han Ye Ri (Worst Woman)

Best Supporting Actor
Kim Eui Sung (Train to Busan), Ma Dong Seok (Train to Busan), Bae Sung Woo (The King), Eom Tae Gu (The Age of Shadows), Jo Jin Woong (The Handmaiden)

Best Supporting Actress
Kim So Jin (The King), Ra Mi Ran (The Last Princess), Bae Doo Na (Tunnel), Chun Woo Hee (The Wailing), Han Ji Min (The Age of Shadows)

Best New Actor
Do Kyungsoo (Brother), Ryu Jun Yeol (The King), Woo Do Hwan (Master), Ji Chang Wook (Fabricated City), Han Jae Young (New Trial)

Best New Actress
Kim Tae Ri (The Handmaiden), Kim Hwan Hee (The Wailing), Yoona (Confidential Assignment), Lee Sang Hee (Our Love Story), Choi Soo In (The World of Us)

Best Screenplay
The Wailing (Na Hong Jin), The Age of Shadows (Lee Ji Min /Park Jong Dae), The Handmaiden (Park Chan Wook/Jung Seo Jung), Asura (Kim Sung Soo), The World of Us (Yoon Ga Yoon)

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The Trump administration just signaled it may take the only action that could actually stop North Korea

(US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.REUTERS/ Bryan R. Smith/Pool)
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson signaled on Friday that the Trump administration may have finally accepted the one course of action that could stop North Korea’s nuclear threat to the world: direct talks.

After months of US military posturing and shows of force met by North Korean nuclear threats, Tillerson said in an interview with NPR that direct talks with the Kim regime “would be the way we would like to solve this.”

This is a bit of a reversal from Vice President Mike Pence’s statement just over a week ago that the US would not consider talks with the North Koreans.

However, the US’s and China’s shared goal of denuclearizing North Korea may be dead on arrival.

“Denuclearization is probably a nonstarter for a dialogue,” Yun Sun, a senior associate at the Stimson Center, told Business Insider.

In 2003, the Bush administration engaged in the six-party talks with North Korea, but in 2009, when the time came for North Korea to implement the verifiable and irreversible destruction of its nuclear capabilities, the Kim regime backed out.

The experience proved a searing moment for US diplomats and created lasting doubts about the North Koreans’ sincerity in diplomacy, according to Sun. Since then, North Korea has written its possession of nuclear weapons into its constitution as a guarantor of its security.

So while the US demands North Korea denuclearize and North Korea clings to its weapons for security, the question since 2009, according to Sun, has been: “If we are going to talk to North Korea, what are we going to talk about?”

At this point, the only way to eliminate the Kim regime’s nuclear program would be a large-scale, bloody military campaign in which the North Koreans would do their best to hit US and South Korean forces with nuclear weapons.

REUTERS/Damir Sagolj/File Photo" data-mce-source=“Thomson Reuters” data-mce-caption=“FILE PHOTO: A North Korean navy truck carries the ‘Pukkuksong’ submarine-launched ballistic missile in Pyongyang” width=“650” height=“434”/>(A North Korean navy truck carries the Pukkuksong submarine-launched ballistic missile in Pyongyang.Thomson Reuters)

But short of complete denuclearization, there is hope for peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula without bloodshed.

“A more realistic goal would be denuclearization in time,” said Sun, who said a moratorium or freeze on North Korea’s nuclear and ballistic-missile programs would present a much more fruitful place to begin talks.

“If we can engage North Korea and have a deal about them freezing their nuclear development in exchange for some sort of security guarantee, then the US and South Korea could suspend their military exercises on the peninsula,” he said.

North Korea has in the past offered such a deal, but the US has refused, saying its regularly scheduled, peaceful military exercises pose nowhere near the threat that nuclear proliferation does.

(South Korean marines participating in a joint landing-operation drill with the US.REUTERS/Kim Hong-Ji)

But halting the military drills could demonstrate that dialogue, not military threats or action, represents the way forward. If the US started a program with North Korea similar to the Iran nuclear deal, it could begin to trade and normalize relations with the Hermit Kingdom.

In time, as North Korea benefits from exposure to the outside world, denuclearization would become much more likely, and the US would have a freer hand to pressure the Kim regime in that direction.

For now, “the realistic agenda is not denuclearization,” Sun said, “but a halt of their nuclear program.” And only through diplomacy can the US reasonably hope to achieve this.

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Let’s face it: Our world is in trouble. We’ve got coup attempts in Turkey, North Korea throwing threats around every couple of weeks, and the recent unrest in the U.S. Unrest which seems to indicate that another World War is right around the corner. At this rate, the dangers appear to be rising faster than we can create the weapons needed to protect ourselves from them. With that in mind, why don’t we use Samsung’s massive recall to our advantage by repurposing these dangerous explosives as intentional weapons?

The applications are endless when you’re dealing with volatile handheld devices like the Note 7. For example, video game modder HitmanNiko edited the grenades in Grand Theft Auto V, reskinning them as Note 7’s with hilarious, thought-provoking results.

While it’s funny to behold, I got to thinking “Why the hell not?” It already doesn’t take much to set the Note 7 off into a blazing inferno. So throwing these things at our enemies on the battlefield would work about as well as any grenade. And your typical grenade can’t store over 50,000 songs. It’s only with the Note 7 grenades that you can blast Kenny Loggins’ Danger Zone at full volume while blowing your adversaries to smithereens.

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