no sungmin no not now

About Sungmin and the division among ELFs

There’s been a lot of anti-Sungmin sentiment lately and I for one had no idea why there was hate for him to begin with. “Are K-ELF angry bc their bias got married??” I think that’s the most common reaction among I-ELF but that of course isn’t it. What bothers me the most is the divide between Korean & International ELF tbh. Each side calling the other stupid/ignorant bc “they don’t get it but they think they know everything” is very unfair. BOTH sides need understanding. Do research, try to hear what the other side is saying rather than judging them based on a couple of angry/hateful comments.

I did. I looked up posts from K-ELF on “reasons why Sungmin will never regain Korean fans” and read them. And you know what? I GAINED UNDERSTANDING. I finally get why K-ELF feel betrayed. But you know what else? I ultimately still support Sungmin (just FYI he’s not even my bias in SuJu so don’t go there).

I agree that the timing for his wedding was extremely poor especially considering what had happened with Leeteuk’s family & also the SS6 tour & the album promotion period. It was a selfish move to push on with the wedding. It just was. Also, him using bodyguards during fanmeetings to basically bully fans from bringing up the topic- very wrong. And denying the rumors to Korean fans but admitting it to others- also not cool. Plus, forcing his then gf’s nickname onto others via his new signature was kinda lame.

Even though I sympathize with K-ELF on those points, I still choose to support Sungmin & his wife bc at the end of the day, I feel like it was just a really unfortunate confluence of events, bad timing & yes, a tablespoon of selfishness (really like a cup if we’re keeping to cooking ratios but you get the point). They wanted to get married on the one year anniversary of their first meeting and he didn’t want to put it off bc he was enlisting 3 months later. They really wanted to be married. I can’t hate on him/them for that. Yes, it came at the expense of a couple of things- namely the inconvenience of his group but I don’t believe that means he doesn’t care about Suju anymore. He made a choice for himself and his love and put it ahead of the group. Priorities change in life, but again, it doesn’t signify that he has stopped caring about the members or the fans.

But- and I really want to emphasize this point- if the guys can move on from it, why shouldn’t we as fans? I’m not saying they’re all over it- it may well remain a sore point within the group- but to go so far as to assume that they want him out is going too far. By going against Sungmin and his participation with the comeback later this year, you are hurting the group as a whole. Losing Hangeng & Kibum was hard enough at the time, but now you expect them to expel him from the group almost 12 years into this thing (plus Kangin but that’s another topic for another day)? No. I also want to add that my main contention with the anti-Sungmin K-ELF and really with ALL fans in the world who feel like he/they/ANY idols owe their career to them (the fans). I disagree. Fan support is crucial & necessary but to say that “THEY OWE US” is going over the top imo. Just as the idols aren’t entitled to any fan support, we as fans are not entitled to access into the idols’ lives.

For the sake of full disclosure, I think most I-ELF are miffed by K-ELF, not just because of this mess but also from the Henry-ZhouMi disaster from way back when. They were not welcomed (to put it very politely) and found support from the international fans. It still breaks my heart to hear them talk about how they were THIS close to quitting bc of the backlash against them joining. Hell, to this day, a number of ELF still don’t acknowledge them as a part of Super Junior. As Heechul once said, “if you can’t support all 15 members, then what kind of ELF are you?”

No Strings (VI)

Author: kpopfanfictrash

Pairing: You / Jimin

Rating: PG-13

Word Count: 4,004

Summary: It started off as such a simple question. How to know if you’re bad in bed? Of course when you asked, you didn’t imagine Jimin would actually answer.

Originally posted by softsugamon

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okay.

elfs all around the world have been waiting almost 2 years for some of the members to return from the army and have their comeback. the fact that sungmin isn’t gonna be in this comeback because of some fans is bullshit.

I understand some fans are upset because they feel betrayed or whatever but sungmin is moving on w his life and starting something that not a lot of kpop stars get to do. marriage is such a beautiful thing and should be celebrated. if you’re really an elf, you should support sj when good things like this happen and when the members are making progress in their personal lives. even though we are just fans, we have to realize that they have lives outside of sj too.

I am really annoyed how some fans view marriage as a reason for a member to be kicked out of a group and the fact that sm & sj label value the opinions of k-elf over international elfs is bullshit too. I honestly think sometimes they forget we’re fans too; we’re buying albums and streaming the mv like crazy. We may not be able to do some things but we try our best.

as much as I want him in this comeback, I want him to be safe. I could say that having him in it would just weed out the bad fans but it might not be safe for sungmin (which is ultimately the reason why I think he’s not participating). I know he’s been waiting for a really long time to participate in this comeback so this is really important to him. it just hurts that things ended up this way.

regardless of the situation, I’m still gonna support sj’s comeback and I hope that other fans will too. because of this, though, the longer he waits the harder it’ll be for him to get back into the comebacks so I’m not sure how it’s gonna play out.. we shall see.

You know what? I told myself I’m going to stay out of this scandal because I know myself too well and I don’t want to bother about what fans say about Super Junior (I’ll include them all because SJ is a group and not only Sungmin and Kangin). 

I am so dissapointed by everyone right now. I’m dissapointed because of Sungmin deciding to leave just because a few korean ELF are talking non-sense stuff (or fans, because they are not ELF to me anymore and I don’t care what you’re going to think of me saying that). I’m dissapointed because of Label SJ for “respecting” Sungmin’s decision and listening to a few fans who are standing against him. I’m dissapointed because of the actual ELF who promised to respect their decision but said they’ll leave instead just because Sungmin “decided” to not be a part of their comeback. I’m dissapointed because I couldn’t keep myself calm and shut the fuck up (I have an urge to swear right now and that doesn’t really happens to me often). 

So, congrats to everyone who “won” this. Enjoy your time because Sungmin will be left out and enjoy Super Junior member sadness for couldn’t help him more than this. Congrats for giving yourself joy but giving the others sadness.

Besides all of this, I am going to stay Super Junior’s side until the very end. I am going to support this comeback no matter what will happen because I am an ELF.

Now all the people that were complaining that I was making a big deal about this comeback being a big fucking deal can sit down. SuJu SAID that if this time they don’t do well, it won’t be good for the group.

We literally have to make sure that they win awards, that they top the charts, that they get a fuck ton of views on the MV, and that they get support. We have to vote our asses off, and show them that ELF aren’t going anywhere.

To all you ELF’s that are saying that they’ll be fine, I don’t think you understand that the our boys are fucking scared of failing. Yesung fucking cried because he wants them to do well, wants to be with the members and have it be like the old times where they were on top of the world.

They know a lot of fans have left, they know what happens in the fandom, they aren’t blind or stupid. They have legitimate worries and we need to take this fucking seriously. I won’t see this group fade away because ELF are too lazy to stream, vote and support their supposed UB group that they love so much.

These men have touched my heart and have made me so happy and I’ll be damned if I become the source of their sadness.

I can't believe this

I can’t believe this is happening… I honestly can’t. I found Super Junior when I was around 11… I loved every single member. Every. Single. One. They were my first K-Pop group… And I still love them. And I have never been so hurt before.

I was already sad since Kyu and Ryeowook wouldn’t be able to be in this come back… I was really hoping Sungmin would get more lines or even Heechul…

You “K-E.L.F” are despicable. Our family is broken up even more now all because Sungmin wanted a happy life. All he did was got married. And I am disgusted that you all would do such things to this man that he has to withdraw from something he was looking forward to. I can’t even begin to process what he’s feeling… I can’t even deal with what I’m feeling…

He has to stop his passion because of you fake, terrible fans. Sungmin is my bias-wrecker. His voice is unique. His dancing is amazing. I love his angry singing face and his beautiful smile. And you all had to ruin it not only for me, but for our boys. Our family.

Our family is broken. All of you that wanted Sungmin out aren’t E.L.F. You aren’t Ever Lasting Friends. If you were, you would have supported your friend in his life.

You broke my heart and I’m so hurt by this… My little family is broken… and I’m so sorry on behalf of all international E.L.F that this happened and our voices weren’t strong enough… if any real E.L.F need a shoulder to cry on or someone to talk to, I’m here…

“...This My Girl, No One Else’s”

Requested by an anon. I hope you enjoy. I love Min Sik, guys. Look at this cutie. A WHOLE SNACK!

Originally posted by streetrapshit

“How am I going to do this? Do you think now is a good time?” Min Sik asked quickly.

He wanted to come clean. It was killing him just to hide you out of the public eye. He loved you too much to not let the world know he was taken. He wanted to spoil you and let the world watch as he showered you in gifts he could get with that rapper money of his. You were his most prized possession and he wanted to show you off as his, and not anyone else’s. You couldn’t blame him. You came from a rough background and all he wanted was to give you a good life. 

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i… honestly don’t know what to say anymore.

i somewhat prepared myself mentally for kangin not to be in the album, but sungmin… i honestly didn’t think it was that bad.

i don’t understand, i just don’t. and before you start telling me that “k-fans have their reasons” - i read the reasons k-elfs don’t support him, both two and a half years ago when he got married and now when they announced that they’re boycotting him. i still don’t understand. sure, he could have handled the situation a bit better, but he’s just human, and nothing he did deserves this kind of reaction.

i’m angry that k-elfs have the most power over suju, and int-fans can’t do anything about it. i get that they’re a korean group and obviously they want to cater to the korean market first of all, and that’s fine, i have no problem with that. what angers me is that the k-elfs have so much power that they can get a member to leave the group - they did it with henry and zhou mi (preventing them from joining the group in the first place) and they’re doing it now with kangin and sungmin. while i understand why kangin has to take more time to reflect (even though i don’t agree with that and i think he’s been punished enough), i don’t understand why sungmin has to leave.

we’ve waited TWO YEARS for this comeback. most of us waited two years to see sungmin back from the army and in the comeback. and now he’s not going to be there because… he got married? that’s basically the whole thing. they’re boycotting him because he dared to be happy and have a life that doesn’t involve elfs or suju.

i’m angry, and hurt, and i have no idea what to do or say or feel.

i’ll still support super junior, because i always have and i always will. but i really hope he won’t feel he has to leave the group completely, that he’ll be back in the next comeback (which hopefully won’t take another 2 years).

we’ve already lost 2 members, there are 2 who could and should have been a part of the group, and now we’re potentially going to lose 2 more. 

i’m just… hurt. i don’t know what else to say.

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I honestly didn’t want to say anything but things are getting ridiculous
We have been waiting 2 years for this comeback and now sungmin isn’t going to be a part of it??? Honestly why do these so called “fans” have to ruin things for us
Sungmin never did anything wrong!! Is getting married a crime? No it isn’t! Okay sure he could have told us better beforehand but even if he did he would have gotten hate! He had no way of winning cause of these “fans” who believe that just cause hes an idol he isn’t allowed to have happiness and live his life with the person he loves! Just cause hes an idol doesn’t mean that hes not a normal being and that his whole existance is to ‘serve’ us!
Whats even more ridiculous is how that your blaming the members for not supporting sungmin! Even if it is label sj, it is all controlled be sm, you should all know that by now!! I’m sure the members tried to convince him not to take decisions, but honestly can you blame sungmin, you were all going to boycott the concert, you hate on his wife etc, so all cause he wanted his brothers comeback to do well he opted out of it! Imagine how hard of a decision must have been for sungmin and the members!
Honestly Sungmin and the other members have done so much for us that we could never even repay them even if we tried! Tbh we aren’t even trying, cause look what we are doing, we are not allowing sungmin to have a happy married life, were not allowing him to participate in the comeback or the concert! All we are doing is ripping the group apart!!! This upsets me so much cause what sort of fans are we do being doing all this?? When did elf become so toxic?? I’m honestly so dissapointed in our fandom! But then again those who are doing this are not elf… they don’t deserve to be called that cause elf stands for everlasting friends and we were supposed to support them for a life time, not turn our backs on them…….

Either way i will always be an elf and support super junior till the end! I will always support the members and try to keep the group together! I will try and make this comeback successful by promoting and streaming the hell out it! The boys have been working so hard for this comeback and for them we should make it as good as possible!
Super Junior (Heechul, Yesung, Donghae) kinks + what turns them on

A/N: I’m only doing the current 9 members not enlisted in the military, so Shindong and Sungmin are excluded for now :( But if you really want one, just request it.

Heechul: 

this boy is one of my strong biases, and I can totally see his ass being into some sort of role playing. He wouldn’t be all vanilla about it in the beginning either, from day one he’d tell you in what outfits he’d want, the positions he’d want you in waiting for him, etc. heechul would go crazy when you waltzed around him on purpose, in your pretend maid attire, dusting in front of him on the glass table, bending over so your ass was clearly visible from the back, your garters riding up and squeezing you, trying to get his attention if he was reading, on his phone, etc. but he would make you regret it, slamming you down on the glass table you had been cleaning moments ago to position his clothed growing member behind your suddenly soaked slit from behind.

“No underwear?” He’d purr, coming up to grab at your chin and yank you to look at him.
Nodding your head no, you’d watch in awe as he pushed up your legs and squatted down, burying his face inside of your heat as you writhed under his strong arms, your face flushing from the pleasure his tongue was giving you.
“Heechul..” You’d gasp out, his tongue dipping in your slit.
“Shut up, you already know this is what happens when you tease me.” And he wouldn’t stop his assault on your core until your were sweating onto the table and begging him to stop because holy shit you were so overstimulated, but even then you wouldn’t be safe. He’d grab you by your ass again and throw you over his shoulder, walking you to the bedroom and tossing you on the bed his dark eyes making regret ever teasing him.

Yesung: 

over all I would say yesung would be typical in bed, but he would have his moments. I feel like even if he’s pretty usual, he would love above all to hear you moan, it would give him a feeling on “hell yeah I’m the one making her moan, I’m doing that.” And it would just fuel his desire for you. Like say you’d be kissing him and what not, just kissing, neither of you planning on taking it any further than that but then all of a sudden, a small moan would slip out of your throat, causing you to pull back suddenly and place your hand over your mouth as you both would sit there, dumbfounded. But then all of a sudden, yesung’s eyes would darken a little bit more and he would be at your mouth again, but this time the kiss would be a lot different from the first time around. You would feel a hunger coming from his mouth, it almost would feel like he was trying to suck more moans out of your mouth as he would place his hands on your hips and pull you into his lap, the game completely changing once you would feel his growing member beneath you, you’re mouth opening lightly as you began to catch on to his drift. But as soon as you had gotten a grasp on it, yesungs mouth would lick its way down your neck, his tongue feeling along your veins as he begun to buck up into you, your thinly clothed core suddenly on fire as you’re body would bounce again his movement, harsh breaths coming out of you. This would continue until Yesung finally ground against the spot that was most sensitive for you, a moan erupting from your throat as your eyes almost rolled back into your head from the pleasure. He would take note of the sweet sound and begin to buck in the same manner, hot moans coming from your mouth like a stream, yesungs head beginning to bead with sweat as he worked even harder to make you moan, flipping you over to get an even better vantage point, incredibly u comfortable in his jeans but not caring.
“You like it here? You like it when I do this-” he would tease, wanting to hear you as loud as you could be.

Donghae

DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THIS BOY, to me, his ‘cool’ demeanor wouldn’t extend into the bedroom, yeah for the first few moments, while you’d be making out, taking each other’s clothes off, his real kinks would come out to play. Donghae feels like someone who would be into slight spanking and slight dominance, not wanting to completely over power you, but let you know who was in charge during sex. He would kiss you sweetly at first, warming you up before he got a little bit rougher with you, as he would retreat while you waited completely naked for his return anxiously. Once he would get back, you’d see that he’d brought one of your favorite whips out to play. You’d try to control your excitement though, because the second Donghae knew you liked that whip, he’d throw it away and pull another one out, so you simply would stare at him, with wide wet eyes.
“On all fours.” He would command in a gruff voice which sent shocks down your stomach to your core as you complied. You would turn around and arch your back, the edge of Donghae’s whip coming to trace your ass as you resisted the urge to lean back into it in excitement and want for contact.
“So pretty..” He would purr, always peppering you with compliments even if he was like this. Then with one more caress from the small whip, he’d suddenly lightly crack it against the crook of your ass, a hiss coming from you in a mixture of pleasure and pain, the pain being kissed away as Donghae did what he always did after every whip, place a soft kiss on the skin as his free hand ran up and down your stomach, his mouth ghosting over your core.
“1 down baby.” He would announce, adjusting his belt as he grew harder in his jeans from the image of your ass with a single whip mark pushing him over the edge.

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[INFO] Sungmin will not be participating in Super Junior’s comeback but asks fans to support SJ’s comeback.

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안녕하세요 성민입니다.
여러가지 사정으로인해 오랜만에 인사드리게 되었네요.
우선 많은 팬분들께 걱정을 끼쳐드려 죄송합니다.
최근 저로 인해서 이런저런 안좋은 이야기들이 많았는데, 혼자 판단하고 행동할 수 있는 일이 아니다보니.. 답이 늦어져서 죄송하게 생각합니다. 그점에 대해서는 저도 늘 속상하고 미안하게 생각하고있습니다.
돌이켜보면 결혼을 준비하는 과정에서부터 10년을 넘게 수많은 팬분들의 사랑으로 자라온 아이돌인 저의 입장이 결코 일반적일 수는 없다는 사실을 외면했던 것 같습니다.
좀 더 세심한 배려와 진실된 자세가 필요했던 그 시기에 그렇게 하지못했던 부분에서 상처입은 팬들과 점점 눈덩이처럼 커져가는 근거없는 오해와 소문으로 또 한번 배신감을 느끼셨을분들께 보다 적극적인 소통이 있었어야 된다는 생각이 듭니다.

군대에 있으면서 하루하루 너무나도 기다렸던, 꼭 하고싶었던 멤버들과의 활동이지만 슈퍼주니어의 중요한 이번 앨범이 잘 되길 간절히 바라는 마음에서 이번 활동에는 참여하지 않기로 하였습니다.
저는 슈퍼주니어의 멤버로써 오랫동안 우리 슈퍼주니어가 사랑받기를 원합니다. 그렇기 때문에 저에 대한 논란이 계속되고 있는 현재의 상황에서는 슈퍼주니어를 먼저 생각하는 것이 옳은 판단이라 생각하여 이번 앨범에 제가 참여하지 않는 것이 팀을 위한 길이라는 생각을 했습니다.
모두에게 중요한 이번 컴백에서 저로 인해 엘프들이 저희를 진심을 다해 응원하지 못하게 되는 상황만큼은 만들고 싶지 않았습니다.

저를 사랑해주시고 응원해 주시는 팬분들께는 죄송하지만 제가 좀 더 시간을 가지고 노력을 해야 될 것 같습니다.
엘프 여러분들 이번 슈퍼주니어의 컴백을 진심을 다해 응원해주시고 지켜봐 주세요.

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Hello this is Sungmin. 
Due to several situations, I’m here to greet you guys after a long time. 
Firstly, I’m sorry for worrying the fans. 
There has been talks that weren’t nice these days because of me and because these are things that I cannot judge and take action on my own.. I’m sorry for giving such a late reply. Because of that, I’ve always felt sad and sorry about it. 
Looking back, from the process of preparing for my marriage, from a position as an idol who has grown from the love from many fans for over 10 years, it seems like I’ve disregarded the fact that I should not (have handled it) in a general way.

To the fans that felt hurt because I didn’t manage to give more careful considerations and a truthful position at the time when it is needed, and the people who felt betrayed from the baseless misunderstanding and rumours which grew bigger like a snowball, I feel that there should have been a more active communication (between us). 

Even though they are activities that I’ve wanted to do with the members that I’ve anticipated so much everyday while I was in the army, with the heart of earnestly hoping that this important album for Super Junior will do well, I’ve decided not to participate in the activities this time. 

As a member of Super Junior, I want Super Junior to receive love for a long time. In order for that, with the current situation on my on-going controversy, I think it is the right decision to think of Super Junior first and I think that me not participating in the album this time is for the sake of the team’s path. It is an important comeback for everyone this time round so I don’t want to make it as a situation that because of me, our ELF will not be able to support us with all their heart. 

I’m sorry to the fans who gave me love and supported me but I think I need to have more time and work harder.

ELF, I hope that you will support Super Junior’s comeback this time round with all your hearts and please continue to watch us.

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Once upon a time we had 2 new members who joined the SJ family.....

Their name was henry and zhou mi

They were very innocent when they first join….

SJ started influencing them slowly….

You could feel something just went very very wrong…..

And then you realise that they’ve come too far to turn back now

REASONS WHY SUNGMIN WILL NEVER REGAIN KOREAN FANS
  • <p> <b></b> I know all the international ELF's don't understand why Korean ELF has turned their backs against Sungmin after his marriage. I'll just simply explain reasons why Sungmin isn't welcomed by Korean ELF and just a reminder that this is not a post to tell the international fans to hate on him too. I just personally found it frustrating to see international fans not being able to understand the korean fans and vice versa because I see the valid reason for them to be angry I don't plan to be a supporter of Sungmin until he apologizes to his fans.<p/><b>Fact 1:</b> January, 2014, Leeteuk's family members passed away from a car accident and Leeteuk suffered a lot (he even mentioned about how he became suicidal). He was completing his military service during the time; however, it was around this point of the year that Sungmin started to ask for marriage approvals to Leeteuk as well through letters. He even bought a condo for Saeun and himself (on February). He clearly didn't consider the situation of his members and he was being selfish.<p/><b>Fact 2:</b> The members and even his family didn't approve of his marriage to be held on December. They didn't mind him getting married, but it conflicted with SJ's schedule and they wanted him to push his marriage back several months (around March). His mother said to a Chinese fanbase owner, "There is no parent that beats his child" which meant that his family didn't want the marriage to be held so soon. The reason Sungmin and Saeun wanted to get married on December 13, 2014 was because it was exactly a year since they've met. I suppose it was a special date to them, but Super Junior members were having a concert in Japan a week before the marriage and the week after which meant that they would have had to perform, fly back to Korea for the wedding, and then fly back to Japan to perform which would have been physically straining for the members, considering the fact they need to prepare and rehearse for the concerts. As well, Sungmin missed concert rehearsals to go on a date with Saeun.<p/><b>Fact 3:</b> On September,2014, Sungmin's dating rumors came up. Fans actually knew about them dating in advance but they decided to keep it quiet for the sake of Sungmin. When marriage rumors came up, fans started to ask for feedback from Sungmin. They just wanted to know what was happening and were nervous. As you remember from Radio Star, Leeteuk and Heechul said that fans wouldn't want to hear dating/marriage news from the music industry, they wanted to know through Sungmin's words. However, during fan sign events Sungmin would never speak of this and ignored his fans who mentioned anything about the marriage rumor. He even hired bodyguards/managers who would threaten the fans "Do you not want Sungmin's autograph" if they asked anything about the marriage rumor. To his fans, he started to sign autographs with his wife's nickname "MIMI" on the autographs, which was replaced from a star. Fans don't want love symbols on their autographs, that's Sungmin's personal life that they don't need to be involved in.<p/><b>Fact 4:</b> You guys might know that Sungmin runs a naver cafe (kinda like a blog) and when marriage rumors came up, there were a lot of comments from his fans regarding this rumor. One fan wrote, "Let the fans who want to leave Sungmin, leave. It doesn't matter anymore" and Sungmin liked this comment. As well, he blocked the word, "Korean Fans" on the cafe, shutting korean fans out. He blocked blog accounts and deleted the comments of a koreans fan who wrote, "Wouldn't it be possible for you to keep your marriage rumors quiet for the rest of SJ and for the sake of yourself?". The fans wanted him to keep big rumors like this relatively quiet because it was right before the announcement of THIS IS LOVE repackaged album and it was an important time of the year for the fans and SJ (back then, it was thought that this could have been the last album before majority of the members will go serve for military service. It was the only chance that Korean ELF can help win the annual award for SJ). Because of Sungmin's marriage rumors, THIS IS LOVE repackage promotion lasted only for a week and the repackaged album only became a special album.<p/><b>Fact 5:</b> All the gifts that were given to Sungmin, now is basically in Saeun's possession. Fans probably spent lots of money in buying a gift for Sungmin, not for Saeun to keep and use. (Ex. the couple hat that they wore during their honey moon.)<p/><b>Fact 6:</b> Super Junior members were pretty disappointed with Sungmin. As you might know, on the date of Sungmin's wedding, SJ members tried to console Korean Fans and I heard that they left the wedding as soon as they can and ate somewhere else. I don't trust SJ's words from Radio Star fully because it was broadcasted on television, they wouldn't say anything bad about each other on a show. It is definitely true that they had a miscommunication but the miscommunication wouldn't have occurred if Sungmin tried to be considerate towards his members. Super junior is an idol group, and making individual actions did trouble the members quite a bit. It was the members like Ryeowook, Heechul, Leeteuk, and Kangin who expressed an apologetic attitude towards ELF when it wasn't their fault.<p/><b>Fact 7:</b> He told his Chinese fans about proceeding the marriage, and how he felt comfortable around Saeun. But he lied to Korean fans saying he isn't getting married. (One of the main reasons that Korean fans felt betrayed by Sungmin more than the international fans out here rn)<p/><b>Fact 8:</b> Korean fans don't oppose to marriage of their idols. They may be temporarily upset and those of the minority may leave Sungmin but we all know that Super junior is a grown up man (many are in their 30s now) and they need to date and eventually get married. Korean ELFs joke around to Heechul saying that he should stop loving 2D characters and find a real 3D women and get married. At first when news on his marriage was released, Korean fans were congratulating Sungmin, until they started to find about everything Sungmin did to his fans. In Korea, ALL OF HIS FANBASES CLOSED DOWN and many of the ELF is supporter of SJ except SUNGMIN.<p/><b>Fact 9:</b> It wasn't the announcement of the marriage that Korean ELFs were upset about, it was the fact that Sungmin betrayed Korean fans. Seeing korean community pages, I strongly believe that Sungmin won't be welcomed back into SJ from korean fans. Tbh I don't understand why he would get married so quickly (barely met a year) when he was going to go to the military right after. Well it is his decisions in the end.<p/><b></b> The only reason I made this posting now was the fact that Sungmin doesn't seem to care about Korean fans anymore and he isn't apologetic about his actions. This was the reason that angered me the most. I just hope he realizes what he has screwed up on and makes an effort to fix it. His personal life is important, but if it wasn't for his fans, he would not have made it this far with his career. If you guys still can't relate, try to think of your position as a Korean ELF. If you have any questions I guess I'm free to accept questions, but I hope they aren't quite harsh (don't try to fight me back) ._. This will be my first and last post on Sungmin though.<p/><
Greedy Hyukjae wanted to sing more parts ㅋ

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Shindong said that they were asked to do ‘Sorry Sorry’ in the army and when they were distributing the parts, Hyukjae got greedy and wanted more parts so he sang the most. And Sungmin also sang and while the both of them were singing, Shindong was the only one working hard on dancing in the middle so he was the only one drenched in sweat at the end. So Shindong said that now that he and Sungmin has been discharged, Hyukjae has to do the entire ‘Sorry Sorry’ with the same exact music removed on his own 😄