This seems pretty good, except for the fact that the Vietnam War was over by 1975. In 1973 the US decided to pull out from Vietnam, POWs were released in January and the last combat troops left from the country in March
*Edit* if there was any year that Logan would be in Vietnam, it would be in 1968 when shit really hit the fan for American troops
Justin Foley: Massive dickhead. Barely redeemable. He has a tragic backstory and a shitty childhood. However, he’s a massive douche, who let a girl get raped and lied to her, he was willing to kill a guy to save his own back and only right near the end did he decide to admit he was in the wrong and even then we don’t see him do anything to actually help the situation. This guy needs some emotional help and needs to start being a much better person and only then would he ever be anywhere near redeemable.
Jessica Davis: At first I hated her for refusing to listen to her friend but then I realized this is similar to most girl as we are taught to trust our boyfriends more than our friends which sucks. However, she still tried to be nice to Hannah shortly after and a bit of communication could have helped their situation so much. I feel like she’s well and truly suffered enough and didn’t deserve any of the shit that happened to her. Already redeemed.
Alex Standall: As much as guys dont want to admit it and girl would deny it, these lists happen so often its unreal. I’ve seen groups of girls and boys alike make lists ranking others. Its not okay at all but its something that happens so often that it just goes to show how something so simple can be so harmful towards someone. He hurt two girls with this list, Jessica and Hannah. I feel like he is redeemable as he shows the most guilt to the point its shown he’s considering his own suicide. He knows what he did was wrong even if it wasn’t as hefty as some of the other guys. He was redeemed as soon as he admitted what he did was wrong.
Tyler Down: I don’t get why everyone is up Justin’s ass but hate this kid. They both committed a similar crime. One is a pervy stalker and the other took what was an innocent mishap and made it into something filthy and then distributed it. I hate them both but they are incredibly similar except one is the lonely isolated loser with a camera who was bullied beforehand and the other a popular jock with a bad home life. As far as I’m concerned if one has the possibility to be redeemable then so does the other. I feel like Tyler needs some serious help, the kind that Hannah needed but never got. Except where Hannah killed herself, this guy is going to kill others. I can actually see some parallels between Hannah and Tyler, the only difference one is a creep and deserves at least a years sentence in prison. This kid really isn’t okay mentally and thats shown throughout the series, do I feel sorry for him? No. But, he would be redeemable if he got help and it turns out that he didn’t shoot Alex like many people are speculating. As far as I’m concerned, you cant love Justin and hate this guy as they both did similar crimes except one let his girlfriend get raped. Both are creepy assholes. Also, at least the kid told the parents and people about the fucking tapes and Hannah unlike the other assholes trying to cover it up.
Courtney Crimson: She annoyed the fuck out of me when she was defending Bryce and trying to call Hannah a liar when it was already established that these tapes are all true. However, after actually taking some consideration into her character I can understand why she was scared and thought what she was doing was right. Yes this is the 21st century and her parents were gay so she must have known she’d be accepted. But its not that simple, she’s probably seen her parents go through shit and heard them say that her parents homosexuality would rub off on her. If she came out she would give the homophobes what they wanted, evidence to back their claim. I don’t agree with her further spreading rumours and defending a rapist. But with some compassion I find her story more redeemable than some of the others. Her character showed just how spiteful females can be towards each other. I feel like if she would just tell the truth, she could have been a redeemable character.
Marcus Cole: I haven’t seen this guy mentioned despite the fact he’s so much worse than both Justin and Tyler. He literally assaulted a girl in broad daylight and got away with it. And then when she dies he shows no remorse and even tries to stop the tapes from being distributed. He is one of the only two absolutely nonredeemable characters because he shows no remorse and only cares about his reputation. Whilst watching this I honestly got the feeling this guy has no compassion or emotions whatsoever and the only reason he didn’t agree with Justin wanting to hurt Clay is because he knew it could cause problems. He was only interested in calculating the best situations for himself and that makes him way worse because even at the end he didn’t think he did anything wrong.
Zach Dempsey: The ‘nice guy’ mixed in with the wrong crowd. He may actually be a kind and nice guy but his popularity made him feel entitled and when Hannah pushed him away he acted out in revenge. What would have been a petty revenge on its own took away some of a girls last bit of happiness. He obviously had his own problems and confidence issues and what he did wouldn’t have been so bad without the other things that happened. He’s definitely a redeemable character.
Ryan Shaver: I don’t feel like he was focused on enough. He’s definitely a prick but he seems to be the only one to outright be like ‘yeah I’m an asshole’. He seems to be the kind to tell the truth and whilst still being a thoroughly unlikable character he does seem to want to do whats right. He know what Bryce did was wrong and he blatantly addresses the fact that Courtney is defending a rapist and is a rape apologist. I didn’t like him because of his lack of emotions however I did appreciate a character with a decent moral compass and I think hes redeemable but needs to take more interest in peoples lives outside of his stupid writing.
Clay Jensen: Actual sweetheart. Unfortunately, he didn’t see the signs but its shown throughout the series that he helped her feel both better and worse in some of these situations. However, he has nothing to be forgiven for as he technically did nothing wrong except not notice which he tries to make up for with Skye at the end.
Sheri: I guess she deserves to be forgiven when it comes to Hannah as she was just trying to be nice and after Clay is probably the nicest on this list. However, I feel like she let what others think help her to make decisions that aren’t as forgivable. However, she still deserves a chance at becoming a better person even if she does get put in prison for some time.
Bryce Walker: Let him burn. That’s all I have to say about this fucker, he is not redeemable at all. Kill it with fire. He has no reason for what he did other than being a giant jackass with money.
Mr. Trey Porter: Redeemable but a jackass. He’s one of those teachers that doesn’t actually give a shit about the students. The fact he told Hannah just to move on when shes been raped and is physically, verbally and sexually abused almost everyday is sickening and shows you just how good these anti-bullying campaigns actually are when teachers don’t even give a shit.
I know a few people do not like the show, however I think it was good because it showed plenty variations of mental health, abuse and bullying with out actually addressing them but still showing the consequences. We didn’t just get Hannah’s story we got all the others stories too and it shows how mental health and bullying really can cause a butterfly affect. This show may not have been perfect but it was accurate and important.
EDIT: When I measure how redeemable these characters are, I’m not saying what they did was okay. I’m measuring how forgivable they are or if they do deserve forgiveness at all. This is my opinion obviously, you’re allowed to think differently.
For some reason all I can imagine is when Combeferre admits to Courfeyrac that he likes him, Courf is so surprised and nervous and so didn’t see that coming that he just jazz hands away backwards and into a different room so he can hyperventilate ecstatically in peace and Combeferre is just bemused like that did not go as expected
friendly reminder that even if you think something happened between band members, they are human too, and deserve privacy, and there are just some lines you shouldn’t cross, and questions you shouldn’t ask
honestly at this point it isn’t even personal or about the fandom anymore. the fact that the cw promotes riverdale so much, one of their most problematic shows, just proves how little they care about opressed groups. you can’t tell me not to be angry about them renewing riverdale when this is a huge problem right now, especially for someone who’s so involved with eyewitness. i was devastated when they cancelled the show, knowing that they never cared for it at all. instead, networks focus on shows that relate more to a mainstream audience, not bothering to be diverse or care about poc, lgbt people, etc. so can we please just stop fighting about which show is better and just agree on the fact that networks don’t give a shit about anyone who aren’t white cishets.
the power that directing two movies prior to your godzilla assignment instead of one gives you
<b>Gareth Edwards:</b> We had a version of the screenplay that had a heroine in the film. But you’ve got to pick a hero and we ended up with a male, and then everything supports the hero in some way.<p/><b>Michael Dougherty:</b> Listen up, fuckers, the star of your new cinematic universe is now a teenage girl.<p/></p>
(Jumping onto the danny phantom discourse a good month or two late OH WELL)
If I’m being honest, I thought ghosts like Nocturne and Undergrowth were just… ancient ghosts. Not so much as ‘wise and all-seeing’ like the Watchers or Clockwork, but just ghosts that came from a point so far back in time all they remembered was what they were obsessed with.
Undergrowth was obsessed with plants, so he made his body to look like a massive, intimidating plant in order to keep other ghosts away. He could finally see everything they see, hear everything they hear, feel everything they feel, to his utter delight.
Nocturn was obsessed with dreams (I particularly believe nightmares) and came from so far back that he made his body as dark as night, able to twist and turn into a boneless-shape so that way he could reach out and touch peoples’ minds. His head grew horns to fit with the creator of the nightmares he now controlled, the devil himself, his grins becoming shark-toothed and full of malice.
So, yeah. Less of them being creatures from another dimension, more of them being so old they make a new body to fit with their obsessions.
so like we have no idea what luke specifically went through that would have him arrive at the conclusion that THE JEDI MUST END™
but putting aside nostalgia for the established jedi-sith dichotomy
doesn’t that kiiiind of feel like one of the most organic developments in the NT thus far?
the PT, whether you liked it or not, sort of hammers home the message that the jedi council is inherently narrow-minded and like…dangerously ascetic. their ideals are noble and their intentions are good, but it’s still the same order that coldly instructs students to cut ties from their emotional attachments rather than maintain & deal with their connections in a healthy way.
that restrictive, suffocating ideology is what births anakin. a former slave, he’s again stripped of any of his own emotional possessions. he’s isolated from his mother, told to not save padme and his unborn children. he’s kind of driven towards those bad decisions due to jedi teachings.
i def feel like that message is present in the OT - obi wan tells luke his father is dead and that vader killed him, completely having give up hope on anakin and sowing seeds for luke to hopefully off him before he ever finds out the truth.
once he finds out, yoda reaffirms the mindset and instructs him to kill his father. luke’s like HELL NO and saves vader, declaring, “i am a jedi, like my father before me”
“like my father before me” tbh to me also intimates luke practicing the way his father did, a straying from the ~pure jedi perspective~ through which obi wan and yoda advocate for patricide, something luke rejects. so ALREADY you sort of get that pov that what luke is practicing isn’t the Pure Perfect Unaltered Jedi Way?
so actively making that decision in TLJ sets the stage for allowing a shitton of nuance in harnessing the force and with two characters (rey & KR) already having shown bits of both light and dark in how they harness it…..
from where i’m standing honestly, it feels like a totally natural trajectory