And speaking of gross bros thinking of nerd girls like fucking unicorns…
I was actually talking to a female client once about cannon-fannon and how much I love listening to her talk comics, and had a male client interupt us to tell me he has never met a chick that is into comics before, he’s never even heard of a girl being into comics before, and he has always wanted a nerdy girlfriend and that i absolutely MUST give him her number.
I actually had to explain to him that I wasn’t joking when I said she was out of his league. Yes, she is incredible, she is beautiful, she is intelligent, successful, highly knowledgeable and enthusiastic about comics, and she’s also not even going to look twice at you because literally all you got is that she fulfills a fantasy of yours.
Yes bro i get it, she’s your ideal girl. Trust me, she’s a lot of people’s ideal girl. And you’re not even on her radar. You’re not special because you’re into comics. She has a very wide range of potential partners to choose from and ‘never having met a nerdy girl before’ isn’t a good character trait, because it means you know zero women. Or zero women have trusted your creepy ass with the knowledge that they are into comics.
The most concerning part of that entire conversation was his complete inability to grasp the concept that she wouldn’t date him and his insistence that she would.
He insisted that I give her name/number/fb/actually call her and ask her to come to the studio (wtffff???) because he needed to meet her. And then just could not fathom that I refused. He seemed to be running on this idea that if she met him, she would like him. For no other reason than that he was into comics and he wanted a nerd girlfriend.
And I was somehow out of line for refusing to give my best freinds deets to this creepy nerdbro because I couldn’t possibly know that she wouldn’t be into him.
He got really upset.
He was in my studio for 45 mins arguing with me on and off about this and trying to push me into giving her number.
Out. Of. Your. League. Not on your level. Too fucking good for you. Not a possibility. You’ve got nothing she wants. You’re one of literally thousands who would want her. You have nothing to offer her. You tick zero of her boxes. You do not even meet the minimum requirements for me to even ask her.
This is why women don’t say they’re women in WoW, this is why women don’t say they’re into games irl. This is why women don’t hang out in comics stores. This is why nerd women hide one of these two aspects of themselves when interacting with nerd men.
Y’know, as a cis dude, it’s not my place to define what particular sorts of conduct count as transmisogynistic - but I’m totally comfortable asserting that, to the extent that a given conduct is
transmisogynistic, the fact that you don’t do it very often doesn’t give you a free pass.
Transmisogyny doesn’t just look like being a cackling cartoon supervillain who spends his every waking moment plotting ways to hurt trans women.
It can also look like being a faux-tolerant nerdbro who’s totally cool with trans women right up until the moment a trans woman crosses him in some way, whereupon he’ll enthusiastically wield the fact that they’re trans against them.
Honestly…It makes me really uncomfortable when people draw Leia’s Episode 4 Dress as being really tight with a big slit up the leg, because that’s not how it was at all??
It doesn’t even cling to her breasts or anything?? There’s like…a Small knee length slit, I guess, if you look hard enough. But this, and most other outfits of Leia’s, strike me as incredibly modest and professional. In fact, Lets take a look at that for a second.
Look at what she chooses to wear on Cloud City in Episode 5.
Like…It’s a dress with pants? And I think this was probably an outfit she either A.) Packed for the trip on the falcon or B.) Was provided to her by Lando, And I find it hard to believe that Lando would force an outfit on her, considering he was very nice to her in previous scenes. She would have chosen it out of several different options.
I won’t add pictures, but her White Hoth outfit also consists of a jacket and pants. It’s sensible. They’re in the freezing cold. Why would she wear something sexy. She Wouldn’t.
There are honestly only two instances over the course of three movies where she /kind/ of shows skin. Instance 1 is at the end of Episode 1 where she…Kind of, I guess, Has some cleavage showing?
Like Barely. Keep in mind as well that this dress is floor length and has long sleeves. The second instance is at the end of Episode 6 on Endor
This slit is definitely more revealing, but to be honest, I can’t remember a single time in Episode 6 where it was apparent? They Honestly may have just done this for promotional material? Other pictures of the dress come off as much more modest
I’ve worn dresses shorter than this, so, I wouldn’t exactly consider this revealing by any means.
So when does Leia put on something a little sexier? There’s gotta be one instance right?
Yeah, Against her fucking will.
What I’m getting at here is that I hate the weird sexualization of Leia in Nerd Culture. It’s literally so rampant. It’s not surprising to me whatsoever, but it still makes me mad.
Leia Organa, a 19 year old Freedom Fighter personally fucking chose to dress modestly and people still depict her as this oversexualized Male Gaze Fantasy Being and it’s really disappointing tbfh.
There’s a lot of stuff out there about how being nerdy is mainstream now and you won’t be bullied or ostracized for it anymore but I don’t think that’s entirely true. It’s very conditional. You can like stuff like video games and comic books sure, but still can’t be too enthusiastic, and not about obscure stuff or “”“cringy”“” stuff or academic stuff, and you can’t have other nerdy traits like being socially awkward or clumsy. And a lot of that still overlaps with neurodivergent traits and that’s not a coincidence and it really bothers me that people act like it’s not a problem anymore because mainstream nerd culture does not encompass everything involved with the idea of being a nerd, and there are plenty of traits of that which are still used as an excuse to treat people like shit, even among people who enjoy a lot of nerd culture.
As one of Tumblr’s certified geezers (i.e., over the age of thirty), I’m old enough to remember when “jocks versus nerds” was basically the dominant narrative in youth-oriented media. Even today, it has a great deal of currency, even if it’s not quite as omnipresent as once it was.
And yet, looking back at my own youth, and that of my peers, I find myself wondering: where was all this alleged nerd hate? Was “jocks versus nerds” ever a real cultural phenomenon? Or is it all just a huge cultural myth, cynically promulgated by bitter nerds in the entertainment industry in order to explain why they didn’t get laid as much as they would have liked in high school?
Increasingly, I’ve come to suspect that it’s mostly the second one.
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So as a long time consumer of nerd culture, let me tell you that it was hard to get into shit and still just roll your eyes at some pseudo racist shit. If you don’t know, my favorite superhero is Spider-man. Do you how much it sucked every time Spider-man beat up stereotypical black robbers and gangsters? And yeah it wasn’t common, but it definitely happened a fair enough of times when Peter would just beat the shit of these guys and yeah, they were wrong, but outside of Randy Robertson and his son, that was the closest representation that I got in a Spider-man comic.
And then going back and learning the history of Spider-man and learning that Randy Robertson’s son was becoming sympathetic to the Black Panthers and Peter went on a full Ayn Rand tirade about how useless protesting was…and we were supposed to sympathize with Peter and hate the protesters. That is the kind of shit that kills me about white centered media. Your non-white culture and struggle is portrayed as deviant at the least and an annoyance at the most.
And now, black creators and writers in Marvel are putting their movement in the forefront. Yes,Sam Wilson, Luke Cage, Misty Knight, and etc have to deal with Black Lives Matters and it would be dishonest of them to say they are against it. Back then, if you wanted a social movement alluded to, you had to do it by proxy of the X-Men, which I why I fucking hate the X-Men.
But people are complaining that every black hero has to speak on Black Lives Matter as if what Black Lives Matter deal with do not have effect on every black person in America. And even then, black characters are limited because they cannot outright be against the police(unless you are Nighthawk) and realities of the private prison industrial complex are rarely if ever, portrayed as anything less than a necessary evil. And that sucks.
And I imagine it is an issue with other Nerds of color as well. They have to go PC about their individual struggles instead of even entertaining what is perceived too radical. A Native American hero cannot just simply go full on one man army on the corporations raiding their land. A LatinX hero cannot just go off on ICE. A Middle Eastern Hero cannot just go HAM on the US Government that fostered the Arab Spring.
Our villain has always been the establishment in the sense and Marvel and DC cannot have someone who is anti-establishment in a way that he would be “heroic” to people of color. And that sucks.