nazi salutes

Nobody is saying to erase history. Germany didn’t erase history of WWII or the holocaust. They took down statues, pictures, monuments, and the like, of Hitler, though. They made naming your kid Adolf and the Nazi salute illegal, too. You do not honor the bastards of history. You honor the fallen victims. You do not support the language or customs of those who would oppress the victims. You help the oppressed regain and remember their own, unjustly taken, mocked, and made cause for punishment.

Do not HONOR the oppressors. Teach of them, so they are not forgotten. Put them in the history books, to be sure. To ignore history is to repeat its mistakes. Build monuments to those who still suffer to this day. Those who have lost their culture and had it crushed and destroyed. This is not such a tough concept.

keep seein articles like “calling the white nationalists ‘nazis’ erases america’s own racism” and i think that could be a good point except that these people do the literal nazi salute so

It is impossible for Nazis to peacefully protest.

Nazism is inherently and irrevocably violent. To be a Nazi, to preach Nazism, to wear Nazi Symbols, to make Nazi salutes, to shout Nazi slogans ARE acts of violence. 

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Texas high school students throw up Nazi salute during “silly picture” for senior class photo shoot

  • Earlier this week, candid images taken during Cypress Ranch High School’s senior class photo began making the rounds on social media showing some students at the Cypress, Texas, school doing a Sieg Heil.
  • According to a tweet, the students were reacting to a couple girls in the class who threw up a black power fist during the “silly picture.”
  • In an email sent to Houston station KPRC, a student said at least 70 students made the gesture, shouting “Heil Hitler” and “Heil Trump." 
  • According to KPRC, the school principal sent home a letter to parents noting that the school is investigating the case of the "inappropriate gestures” and asking that parents discourage their kids from disseminating such images on social media “as this perpetuates a false image of Cy Ranch HS.” Read more

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Here’s the thing. 

If these people had just, like, shown up to protest the removal of that Confederate statue, fine. Whatever. They’d still be gross shitheads, but they’d be gross shitheads using their right of assembly and free speech. Whatever. 

But these neo-nazi white supremacist mother fuckers showed up in Nazi regalia, throwing up nazi salutes, shouting anti-Semitic slogans and “heil trump” with their fucking Walmart Tiki torches like the reject extras from Birth of a Nation. 

And you start waving around Nazi symbols, shouting nazi slogans, marching with fucking burning torches- you are trying to inspire FEAR. You are trying to terrorize others. You are a terrorist. 

  And last time I checked, free speech doesn’t protect terrorism. 

Here we are in the year of our lord 2017 and the president of the United States lacks the moral courage to condemn Nazis and white supremacists. And they are not even making it difficult. They are saluting like Nazis and waving Nazi flags and chanting like Nazis and spewing hatred like Nazis. Maya Angelou was not wrong. When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Especially if what that person is telling you is “I am a Nazi.”
—  Alexandra Petri, Washington Post
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CNN fires pro-Trump commentator Jeffrey Lord for tweeting a Nazi salute

  • CNN has fired contributor Jeffrey Lord after the commentator tweeted a Nazi salute, the cable news channel said on Thursday.
  • “Nazi salutes are indefensible,” a CNN spokesperson said in an email statement. “Jeffrey Lord is no longer with the network.”
  • Lord, an outspoken supporter of President Donald Trump, made the remarks during an online spat with Angelo Carusone, the president of the liberal media watchdog Media Matters. Read more (8/10/17)
A word to the armband wearing, Nazi saluting persons of diminished intelligence marching in Charlottesville

Both my grandfathers fought your kind of cancerous garbage in Germany 80 years ago. My maternal grandmother helped make the bullets that sent Nazis to their graves. My cousins marched with MLK. My father saw water fountains that he couldn’t use. The people who raised me are the toughest, most American people I know. They are a great deal more American than hateful bigots foolish enough to think something as uncontrollable as skin pigmentation determines one’s value as a human. You don’t scare me. You don’t get to tell me who I am or where I belong. My ancestors have been here longer than some of yours. I love my country, and you are the ones who don’t belong here.

I’m upset right now. I posted this as a comment to the video, but I’m posting it here too. I seriously hope I’m not talking over anyone in the response that I did make. Please let me know. I really am so disappointed with @markiplier, because for preaching respect, he overlooked that there are people who have been disrespected beyond Felix.


How about you talk to Felix about respect, Mark. Because respect isn’t a one-way street, and he hasn’t done anything to earn that respect from me. Of course everyone deserves the same rights and freedoms, but respect is not a right. Respect is earned. And if Felix wants respect, he needs to be respectful to the people he’s asking to receive respect from - and he’s done the exact opposite.

“Even if you just boil it down to common human decency … The golden rule still applies. You still need to treat people the way that you want to be treated." 

Really? Common human decency? Stuff like, maybe, not joking about the genocide of a group of people who have, many times through history, been the targets of hate, and of course, also a genocide.

Joking about something that has happened to real people who are still alive on this planet. People who were affected, by going through it themselves, or losing family members… That definitely feels like treating other people the way you want to be treated.


"Felix is not an antisemite, and Felix does not advocate hate." 

Felix may not be intending to come off as antisemetic. He very well may not wish death onto all Jews, I understand that. However, antisemitism is still a very real problem in the world, and is on a very violent rise.

Having a platform as big as Felix’s, and then joking about antisemitism does so much harm. It normalizes it. Whether that was the intent or not, that’s exactly what happened. As Felix himself said, "neo-Nazi groups have been referencing [him], have been praising [him], for making these kinds of jokes.” That’s an enormous problem. And yes, he did make a statement to clear up that he does not support these groups, but the problem that he said something that they outright agreed with, that they could use to say “look, someone hugely famous on the internet agrees with us” in the first place is still so wrong.


“And I’m not even defending the jokes that he made, because even he has apologized for some of the jokes that he did." 

Yes. He apologized in the most deflective way possible. He said it was about disagreeing with what he said. That’s not the entire picture. No, I don’t think Felix is actually a fascist, or a neo-Nazi, but he (whether or not it was inadvertent at this point really doesn’t matter) made jokes that fed into those ideals. That’s not okay. A half-assed apology that feels a lot like someone saying "I’m sorry you were offended”, which is a shit apology by the way because it doesn’t apologize for their actions at all, is not good enough.


So yeah, I agree, respect is important. But you can’t tell us to respect someone who has shown blatant disrespect for people himself. Even beyond this one incident, there’s a lot of stuff that’s been said by Felix over the years, for example, the use of slurs against a number of communities, that has outright disrespected those groups. You can’t hold us to this standard of having to show a person respect when he cannot respect us. 

I started by saying that respect is something earned, and that it’s not a one-way street. I think we may have different definitions of respect, because I agree that all people, regardless of how bad they are, are humans, are equals, deserve the same rights and freedoms as everyone else on the planet. But in my eyes, that’s not respect.

Respect, to me, is much deeper than that, and very abstract, but essentially, it involves thinking highly of that person and holding them in some esteem. And to do that, to respect someone like that, I need to have that returned in some capacity. I will not respect someone who has shown that he will not show any respect to others who have been harmed or in any way affected by his comments by so much as giving a genuine, not self-serving apology.

Yes, Felix deserves to be treated like a human being. Yes, there are people who are twisting things he did, such as the whole pointing off camera being turned into him doing a Nazi salute. But what he said was not okay. His apology was self-serving at best, and disingenuous at worst. And while you say you’re not defending the jokes that he made, you’re not condemning them either.

What Felix did was wrong. I get that you want to support a friend, but what was done was wrong. That can’t be overlooked. And by telling us to simply respect Felix right now overlooks that what he said affected people and takes away those peoples’ voices. That’s not a very respectful thing to do.

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There is an argument to be made that calling Radical Islamic Terrorism makes the situation worse by associating the crimes of a small group to an entire population. 

That is not what the above is talking about. 

The KKK, Nazis, White Supremacists, and Racists are acknowledged subsets of populations. 

This isn’t the time to pull an “All Lives Matter” response. 

These are Nazis. 

They yelled Nazi slogans. 

They yelled “Heil Trump”

They did the Nazi Salute. 

They are Nazis. 

Broad language only allows people to reinterpret the events as they want to hear it. If we are going to condemn them, name the groups. Name the organizations. This was a group of:

150+ Alt Knights 

250-500 Klu Klux Klan 

500 “3% Risen

200-300 Militia 

anonymous asked:

I love your blog and all, but do you only answer asks when you know you have the upper hand? Please. No, we shouldn't "let nazis do whatever they want" but are you seriously suggesting that someone, (the police???), prohibits nazis from protesting? About the "who is a nazi" thing, course I think Charlottesville was nazis. But then some people say that everyone who voted for trump is a nazi, and everyone that was tricked into thinking that they're poor becuz imigrants r stealing der jobs r Nazis.

fuck off, anyone who wears a swatsika and throwing nazis salutes is obviously a nazi and should have their teeth punched out - i don’t care who does it as long as they leave feeling afraid and knowing that there is no room is society for scum like them who believe they are better than others and want to kill everyone who resists against them.

Originally posted by folkpunkdreamboat

anonymous asked:

did you hear about the alt right marchers with tiki torches in VA?

They’re wearing swastikas, doing the Nazi salute, chanting Nazi slogans like “Blood and Soil”, saying shit like ‘white lives matter’, shouting ‘n*****’………………stop calling them the alt right!! They’re Nazis and white supremacists. It seriously pisses me off when I hear “alt right”.

The situation in Charlottesville makes my blood boil, but even worse, where is the police?? How come when I went to a peaceful BLM march in NYC, there was like full force of police all decked out in riot gear, but when there’s torch carrying white supremacists in VA, the police response is minimal 😡