nazi blogs on tumblr

Getting rid of nazis on your blog

Hey, if you’re sick of nazis on your Tumblr but you keep on having to block new ones, Tumblr’s most recent experimental feature can probably really help you out. It’s called Reblog Graphs and you can test it here

Basically, what it does is show you a network of how your post was reblogged and who were big influencers in getting lots of reblogs. That’s useful in general but extra usefull if you want to know who to block to get rid of shit on your dash. 

For example, this post that I wrote got a lot of notes and when I use Reblog Graphs is generates this graph:

I’m the yellow dot and all the other dots are reblogs, the bigger the dot, the most reblogs originated from that reblog. Next, I can click on the dots and see who they are and what content they added. For example:

When @thatdiabolicalfeminist reblogged my post the result was a lot of supportive reblogs, helpful feedback and conversations that I want to have. 

But check out the other cluster: 

When wogbeginatcalais reblogged my post the result was a stream of hateful comments by white supremacist, nazi blogs and nazi trolls. Not stuff I want and one reblog started all of it. 

I had blocked a lot of white supremacist blogs when the hate started, but according to Reblog Graph I missed out on quite a lot of the most important blogs that were causing my post to be noticed by these shits in the first place. By blocking key nazi dots in this chain, I can now more effectively stop nazi shits from finding my posts. Good to know!

That’s all. Happy Tumblring. 

Originally posted by beatingthebinary


And another thing, @staff: PLEASE STOP RECOMMENDING NAZIS AND WHITE SUPREMACIST BLOGS TO ME! I’m Jewish and Mexican. I hate even knowing these blogs exist. I have the option of getting rid of the recommendation, but there’s no way for me to say “and never give me anything like this ever again.” I get why the algorithm is coughing them up–I took a look at a couple white supremacist blogs to see how overt their content was (spoiler alert: it was real bad) and now you think I want more. I DON’T. 

All of these blogs were recommended to me in the last week. I’ll be reporting these blogs through the malicious speech reporting tool and you’re all welcome to do the same. Please do not @ any of these blogs in the notes. The last thing I want is to interact with any of these people.

There is a rotten core where people cannot swallow the wrong that was done in history, when people refuse to acknowledge all the right that we have become. The weight of a life rests on a scale balanced neither by politics nor race, neither debate nor opinion. We were founded on the backs of millions we can never straighten ourselves out from. We have thrived on the blood of those whose names we’ve lost over years of erasure, of cherry picking, of white lessons in colorful classrooms. There is no law that protects genocide. No law that supports a cleansing. Speech that tears at the skin of those who don’t look like you, that burns the flesh of those who do not agree with you, that seeks to murder those who are better than you is not speech. It is the skeleton on which this nation was built. It is the skeleton we hide in our closets. It is the framework of everything we have ever done wrong, of all the mass graves we had to dig, of all the lives we stole, of every deplorable action we took. History threatens our future. It calls us back to its origins, back to an evil that has never left. There is no God in the matter, no middle ground to take. If mercy exists it is in the textbooks, it is in the stories we were told, it is in the blood already shed, it is in the bodies already buried, it is in everything we should have learned, it is in knowing what has happened before, because history is a backwards prophecy and it’s something we can’t let happen again.
—  Charlottesville 

The internet is a weird place.
I’m going to have to tell my grandchildren about how a bunch of deactivated Nazi blogs on Tumblr were taken over by a hivemind of people roleplaying as Woody from Toy Story.

I honestly think it’s much more likely that the reason tumblr hasn’t been removing Nazi blogs is that they’re just that incompetent and out of touch with their userbase and the definition of what a functional website is. I’m not completely disregarding the idea that some of the staff are Nazi sympathizers, but incompetence seems much more likely as the direct cause. I mean, they still haven’t switched to https, and they took years to even start to try to deal with pornbots.

And in this case, the obvious hate blogs are just a symptom of a greater sitewide problem. Tumblr is definitionally memetic. It also has a fairly young userbase. Combine that with a lack of administrative moderation or competence, and use of the site as a radicalization tool happens very, very fast. You get Nazis that way, but most people who are old enough to use this site do have a basic awareness that Nazis are considered bad and that many people consider overt racism to be bad. Meanwhile, other radicalizing hate groups or ideologies fly completely under the radar. TERFs and SWERFs, for one. People don’t generally know what their ideology is beyond what is apparent in the name, so it is easy for it to spread memetically. Heck, it doesn’t even have to be entire organized groups; remember when everyone was convinced that all emotionally abusive parents had NPD (because of one post that spread a lot), or that otherkin were transphobic (because of nounself pronouns, a couple people freaking out, and general confusion about what exactly an otherkin was)? Ideas roll around in any environment, but tumblr is like an ideological tennis court where every time you hit the tennis ball, you get two identical tennis balls, and they’re all bouncing everywhere, and some of the replicating tennis balls are filled with explosives. And if there’s no moderation, there’s no bomb squad.

It’s definitely possible for a site to have too much moderation. (Writscrib, to give an example of an upcoming alternative, seems to be against both sex workers and fictional media depicting underage characters in sexual situations, the latter despite being based in the US.) However, specifically in a memetic environment, it’s probably better for there to be a slight excess of site moderation that can be negotiated down, than too little moderation, especially if what isn’t moderated is negative exhortations or hate speech. We’ve seen the result of too little.

Yes, it could also be leveraged against people doing good. However, it’s harder to create and spread a shutdown campaign when memetics is regulated, or, for that matter, if the regulators and moderators are actual people. One of tumblr’s many problems is that it keeps trying to do what little moderation it does have via algorithm. Algorithms are a lot easier to trick than humans. (It’s not just about abuse report abuse. Tumblr’s new safe mode algorithm tries to identify nudity based on the percentage of flesh-toned pixels. This has led to numerous instances of sfw pics being flagged because they showed beige furniture or carpets, and probably nudity could avoid being flagged by simply using a color filter.) Having moderation done by carefully vetted real people, with good diversity training and with a focus on harm reduction and anti-bullying rather than moral panic, would be the best idea.

Note that the level of acceptable moderation for a site is directly linked to its reliance on memetics. Tumblr? Highly memetic; most posts are reposts, not original content, and memetic spread is very fast, with memes and even discourses often becoming passe in a matter of days. Twitter is similar. AO3 or WordPress? Low memetic. WordPress has reposting capability, but the format of its posts means that it does not have rapidly spreading memes or slogans. AO3 has no reposting; the closest thing it has are the “inspired by” field and the ability to post to collections, plus its tagging system. Both allow users to moderate comments on their own posts. Tumblr, Twitter, WordPress, and AO3 all have similar levels of staff moderation—fairly low, especially in terms of moderating content (most of AO3’s moderation in particular is concerned with searchability formatting). Guess which of these sites have more problems with harassment? The memetic ones, tumblr and Twitter.

A Nazi is still a Nazi wherever they post, but their ideas will spread and be reinforced more on a high-memetic site than a low one, so letting them alone on a high-memetic site is much worse than on the low one. Advocating for more moderation of content on tumblr and advocating against more stringent moderation on AO3 is not hypocritical; it’s simply acknowledging that the situations are different and that they require different actions, and that the real harm of hateful ideology, on the large scale, is not “does someone have it,” but “is it being reinforced and how fast,” and “what capacity do they have to spread it?” Moreover, ideological memetics on tumblr and twitter, tend to be presented as philosophy that one should believe, whereas the closest thing to memetics on AO3 is erotica tropes that are specifically presented as fictional and often as things that should not happen in real life, and that is an important difference as well.

Probably, someone with more experience in sociology and/or web design should take over this topic from here, but that’s my onion.

when-not-where  asked:

Do you wanna explain the story of Tumblr user Pizza for the younger bloggers?

oh jesus christ. jesus fucking christ. there was some rich Discoursing on this one. 

so tumblr user pizza was an incredibly popular user who was mostly known for shitposting, being #Relatable, and having the much-coveted url they also frequently responded to any post that mentioned pizza as if someone was talking about/to them. here are some examples of popular posts that they made or contributed to

i’ve discussed how much i hate the term “tumblr famous,” but let’s face it–pizza was “tumblr famous.” i have no idea how many followers they had, but it’s safe to say that the number was astronomically high (one source i read said 500k+ but i’m not sure how reliable that is).

in january 2014, some shit starting coming to light via call-out posts pertaining to pizza’s history of racism (a sentence i cannot believe i just typed. im talking about a call out post for racist pizza right now. why haven’t i deleted yet). 

basically, pizza was a white girl, but she had a “black people” tag and tags on her blog that utilized the n-word, like #n****stories and #n****fight. all of these tags contained racist stories or jokes which used black people as a punchline. here are some screenshots taken from those tags and a brief explanation of what happened immediately afterward. obviously, TW for racism and slurs.

pizza responded to the criticism by deleting the posts in the tags and apologizing, saying that she had created the tags over a year before and had learned and grown since then and wasn’t racist and was so embarrassed and thought the n-word was just a nickname and not a slur….blah blah blah. it’s incredibly difficult to find the original apology post (or the apology video she made) but that’s the gist.

people then fired back by pointing out:

  • she still had links to the tags in question prominently displayed on her blog until the call out post started circulated
  • she had just made a post linking someone to those tags three days before shit hit the fan (which is why shit hit the fan in the first place)
  • she had been called out before and told why those tags were racist and had ignored it

the apology was largely seen as inadequate, and she was criticized for focusing on how embarrassed she was by the whole thing, how it affected her, and for not acknowledging that what she did was racist. and there was much memeing.

so basically there was a lot of Discoursing on tumblr user pizza being Problematic and her popularity RAPIDLY declined. however, the final nail in her coffin came when her account was terminated in august 2014.

although a lot of people were thrilled to see her blog deleted, there was initially a lot of confusion about why she was terminated. there were rumors that she was terminated specifically because of her racism, and that she had been reported for violating community guidelines.

but as we can tell from the plethora of gross neo-nazi and white supremacist blogs that continue to exist unchecked by tumblr @staff, tumblr does jack shit about blogs that spew hate speech!!! 

no, tumblr user pizza was not deleted for racism. she was deleted for advertising and promoting a diet pill that was known to be a scam, which is a violation of a community guideline that the tumblr staff actually cares about. 

☕️  👀 

she went on to make another blog (larrytattoos i think???) 

but no one cared and so she faded into obscurity where she belongs.


@staff, i’m going to be participating in the boycott on tumblr tomorrow because this website is crawling with nazis and white supremacists. i can understand why you are reluctant to kick them off the site. you want to let people freely express themselves. you don’t want to engage in censorship. i get it. but have you actually looked at any of these accounts? at their post? how can anyone argue that these aren’t obvious violations of the very first rule in the community guidelines:

these posts call for violence. they are explicitly representing the views of nazis and white supremacists and misogynists. it’s time to kick the damn nazis off the site. do your jobs, @staff, or some of us are just going to leave for good.

anonymous asked:

Non-US anon: The thing that I will offend some of you here is my biggest fear, you know, especially seeing how most people harass a lot here for such thing. But I physically can't keep up with all your trends on what and what not is offending. I knew that it's rude to call black people "black" but then some years later it's rude to say African-American and you must say black. And a lot of things like that. You know, my life is very hard and I'm poor and I have A LOT of things to worry about 1/2

and a lot of news stories I must keep up with so usually I just don’t have physical capacity to keep with US trends. Not to mention that you usually don’t know about what’s offending in other countries too? How many people on tumblr know that communist symbols are banned in Lithuania equally to nazi symbols for example? How many of you care about it and try not to use them on your avatars? What if it offends fellow Lithuanian? I’m not angry at you specifically and I mean you as plural. 2/2

Also if thing about nazi uniforms is more or less universal, there are a lot of things people expect you to know that are less universal. Like slurs that are and aren’t reclaimed, who and when can use certain words, what is problematic and what not, and things change so quickly. I feel like I got into little nightmare with abuser and get “oh no they changed the rules again” panic often. :) 3/2

Friendly reminder to us American bloggers: not everybody lives here and jumping down the throats of everyone who gets (American) social justice wrong isn’t helpful.

Also tumblr doesn’t timestamp stuff so if you see a post that makes you cringe because the language was appropriate like 3 years ago but isn’t now … maybe it’s because it was written 3 years ago.

Also also: posts that have been reblogged are often separated from their original context. If it pisses you off it might be worth considering that the op had a very different frame of reference from you. what may look awful from your perspective might look fine or even good from theirs (and sometimes neither blogger is wrong.)

(also also also: the context on this was that Nazi-inspired L@nce fanart by the russian artist. like this anon says: it’s pretty universally understood that Nazis are bad, but not everything is so universal.)

I’m sorry this took me so long to post, anon. your messages were great to receive and it made me happy to get a perspective on US-centric blogging from Lithuania. 

anonymous asked:

I find it hilarious that while you guys have given reasonable explanation about how the site admins will combat racism, nazism, etc, people are STILL hyper fixated on how the site needs user intervention to solve these problems. all while complaining about it on tumblr, where anti-x-group and nazi blogs number in the thousands. how can they not realize how hypocritical that is??? are they just too lazy to help maintain a healthy culture in their own communities??? smh

As has been pointed out by a few users in the notes of those posts: it’s very likely that there’s more outrage over the inability to make callout posts or to publicly harass users that they disagree with, especially over potentially problematic content that could be avoided with blacklisting and/or blocking.

Tumblr’s community also has a tendency to want to nitpick new projects for problems, and if it doesn’t fit what they want, they’re happy to burn it to the ground. I can understand this! With how tense the political climate is these days, it makes sense for users to be incredibly wary and concerned about new businesses.

Ultimately, we can’t be for everyone (even if we think we can be!), so all that we can do is stay true to our terms of service and hope that it fits the needs and wants of a community of our own.

anonymous asked:

there are literally blogs on tumblr who are dedicated to the national socialistic ideology, supporting the events that happend in WW2. i never saw callout posts for these blogs, why do REAL nazis get away on tumblr?! why do tumblr users rather call out a artist who drew a wrong in thier opinion!?

Because this website is populated by fucking idiots

oh hey if you tag posts #nazis then Tumblr recommends you Nazi blogs which you can block for violating community guidelines by containing malicious speech and racial hatred.

anonymous asked:

Apparently there's a petition going around that Tumblr ban Nazi and neonatologist blogs. While I'm in favor or of removing actual Nazi rhetoric, judging how many in this site handles different opinions I have a feeling that the ensuing witch hunt will claim more victims than actual perpetrators.

Yeah, I’m all for getting rid of the trash, but I have a feeling that Tumblr would just abuse this.