toa-banshee  asked:

What do you think of ship designs with four necelles, such as the Constellation, Cheyenne, and Prometheus classes?

Ho-ho! Well as matter fact I do like those designs for the most part.

Constellation class:


I love the design, it’s built with reinforcement and redundancy in mind and it’s symmetrically pleasing. Some versions either have a tiny deflector between the nacelles or torp launchers too. It’s a good workhorse and I tend to like it more than the Miranda class tbh.

I enjoy the attention to detail and random add-ons in the aft quarter

Cheyenne class: 

There’s two versions that I’ve seen of Cheyenne class. There’s the smaller one with a saucer that’s never been seen in mainline trek

Kind of like a comtemporary to the New Orleans class (another I like which looks like a squat precursor to the galaxy class). In this version the nacelles make sense to power a ship that size. 

Based on the kitbashed barely glimpsed in BoBW


The other other version uses instead the existing Galaxy Saucer:


Which is weird that they would have these nacelles still for that kind of ship. But I love this version more for some reason even though it makes little sense (like the Nebula class have fun using the saucer’s shuttle bay). 

Finally the Prometheus Class:

kind of a bastard child of Trek, the Prometheus is Starfleet’s second modern venture into a pure warship. The lines are harsher and like the Constellation the ship is built for purpose-built for redundancy. It’s shame we never saw it in DS9 (althouhg its had a couple of token appeareances in novels) I don’t know if it has a role in peacetime Starfleet? It’s a space dagger that splits in three. Still not bad except for one glaring exception:

It has the ugliest bridge I have ever seen, and i Idon’t mean that in a good way. I think it even beats out the generic bridge sets we’ve seen for the other Prometheus (Second Sight) or Sutherland or the Enterprise-C. THis is just, terrible. But I’ll let it slide, its a prototype so I’m gonna say they changed the bridge module after this.

So yes in general I like the 4 nacelle configurations. 

Except for one, glaring candidate. The Nebula class variant seen in Future Imperfect (The model in Riker’s ready room) and kitbashed in BoBW


which just looks weird.

For some reason I also like the three-nacelle Niagara Class




one entire nacelle replaced with parts from three different ships. Mismatched hull plating everywhere. scorches and other cosmetic damage deemed too minor to waste resources cleaning up. A section of an entire deck in the saucer section exposed to space for two seasons because they couldn’t afford to keep a shield up and couldn’t find replacement plating. Borg and other species parts scattered throughout the ship’s interior 

they could have given that ship so much personality and I’m forever bitter


Entre ciel et terre, au pays berbère

A bord de son ballon, Sébastien Lafont, jeune explorateur aérostier, va à la découverte de destinations reculées et de populations préservées du monde moderne.

C'est sur le sol marocain que Sébastien Lafont poursuit son aventure. Il débute son nouveau périple en ballon à quelques kilomètres de Ouarzazate, d'où il met le cap vers le sud, à la rencontre de l'une des plus importantes tribus traditionnelles berbères, les Aït Atta. De la vallée du Draa aux montagnes de l'Atlas et jusqu'au désert, Sébastien découvre la richesse et la diversité des paysages marocains. Ce voyage est pour lui une nouvelle occasion de faire des rencontres inoubliables et de partager sa nacelle avec des personnages fascinants et attachants comme Lahcen, vieil homme isolé au milieu d'un désert de pierres, ou Naïma et Rama, qui vivent dans un village de montagne déserté par les hommes, partis gagner leur vie à la ville. Tous ont accueilli l'aérostier à bras ouverts. Sébastien a partagé leurs moments de joie comme la rudesse de leur vie quotidienne, tissant au fil des jours des amitiés mémorables. 

Diffusé sur France 5 le jeudi 30 juillet 2015 à 13:40 - Durée : 1 h

This Day in Aviation History

August 12th, 1935

First flight of the de Havilland DH.90 Dragonfly.

The de Havilland DH.90 Dragonfly was a 1930s British twin-engined luxury touring biplane built by the de Havilland Aircraft Company at Hatfield Aerodrome.

The Dragonfly shared a clear family resemblance with the Dragon Rapide, but was smaller and had higher aspect ratio, slightly sweptback wings. The lower wing had a shorter span than the upper, unlike the DH.89, and the top of the engine nacelles protruded much less above its surface because the fuel tank had been moved to the lower centre section. Structurally, too they were different: the Dragonfly had a new preformed plywood monocoque shell and strengthened fuselage. It was designed as a luxury touring aircraft for four passengers and a pilot, with provision for dual controls. The first aircraft, G-ADNA, first flew on 12 August 1935. The Dragonfly achieved maximum performance on low power, by using the new construction methods developed for the de Havilland Comet racer, and therefore was expensive to buy (£2,650). In modern terms, it was an executive transport, aimed at wealthy private individuals, often via the companies they owned….


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“It’s peaceful here.”

It was a rarity for him to actually acknowledge the sensation. Granted, their location did wonders to evoke that in him. From the aft section of the Enterprise-A’s saucer, the view of the stars between the nacelles, interlaced with energy from the Warp drive made the view spectacular, the light shifting blue as light bent to accommodate space’s speed, pulsing in time with the frequency of the warp bubble. It made the lounge comfortable. Ostensibly, this lounge was intended for diplomatic functions the ship would have to undertake, but George often hid away there when his shift in the Armory or temporal business did not necessitate his absence.

There was something about the sensation of the vessel reacting to the field she created, the way the deck would transmit a slight vibration indicative of a healthy reaction, that was lacking on the Eternity. The timeship was a battle-cruiser a third the size of the Constitution-class, with a crew three times its number, but it felt…detached, almost clinical.

Granted, his status of satisfaction had less to do with the vessel than who he was on it with.

“Reminds me of the Academy, a little. Granted-” A little grin sneaks onto his lips at the statement, “-might’ve been more worrying about finals there than there was here, but you get the idea.”

“Remember stargazing on the commons? We’d spot formation we’d studied in stellar cartography and you’d correct me when I inevitably forgot what class a star was.”

toa-banshee  asked:

What do you think of four-nacelle ship designs such as the Constellation and Cheyenne classes?

Thanks for asking!

I’m fine with the idea of four nacelles.  They fit Roddenberry’s rule of even numbers of nacelles, and it makes sense that the extra nacelles help bear the load for deep-space explorer ships spending lots of time at warp. (I think the four nacelles must be symmetrical both vertically and horizontally.)

As for the designs themselves…

… they are pretty unremarkable. Constellation is of course derivative from the Constitution refit, but visually it is distinct enough, with the thicker saucer and sideways nacelles.

Cheyenne is also derivative, clearly based on a Galaxy-class saucer.  In-universe this is odd, since it was pre-Galaxy, but of course she was just designed to be a background ship, not seen closely.  My head-canon is that the New Orleans and Cheyenne classes look similar to the Galaxy because they were prototype frames, used by Starfleet engineers to test shapes and warp bubbles before deciding on a final design for the Galaxy class. 

I suppose Prometheus isn’t technically a four nacelle, since she separates and each segment has two nacelles each. 

I have posted some good four-nacelled fan designs you may enjoy browsing, particularly Chimera and Theurgy


[Just gonna continue on the thread of our chatzy the other night. ]

Scotty hated being that person; the overprotective, sheltering kind of parent that his mother had been. It had driven him potty as a child how his mother continually forbade him from going to the shipyards - mostly down to the fact that it had been in that very shipyard that his father had been killed when an unsecured nacelle collapsed and Jorgensen Scott had been crushed underneath. The last thing that he wanted to do was to be the sort of father to Pria who prevented her from discovering things. That said, Pria was not like other girls; she was incredibly unique, and extremely innocent to the darker elements of their world. Naively perhaps, he wanted to shield her from such things for as long as he humanly could. Which was likely half the reason, he was making his way to the upper decks to the mess hall where command crew members usually met for their meals. 

Walking across the relatively vast room, he remarked how much classier this part of the ship was in comparison to industrial decor of engineering. It wasn’t surprising; engineers very rarely sat for long and even when they did it was just to stuff one’s face and run. He found Pavel Chekov just where he might have expected, sitting quietly in the corner examining some sort of PADD. The lad was almost as much of a workaholic as he was, if even such a thing was possible. “Mr. Chekov! Just the lad I’ve been lookin’ for! I don’t suppose I could have a wee word?” 

anonymous asked:

Question; I understand your dislike of uneven numbered nacelles on ships. Does the Enterprise Dreadnought come under the same banner?

Yes. I am not a fan of the Enterprise refit design from “All Good Things”. 

(But I’d better mention this or someone will write-in to correct me:  They did try to justify the 3-nacelled Enterprise-D by saying that the Galaxy-class warp coils are halved, 

and thus you can say that they have 2 groups of coils per nacelle. This would mean that the Galaxy actually is a quad-nacelle, and thus the Enterprise D from “All Good Things” is technically a hex-nacelle.)

anonymous asked:

Since the starship design rule if nacelle pairs exists, what is your headcanon for single or tri-nacelle designs?

I have none. I ignore them. 

anonymous asked:

I am curious. The recent questions about Federation ships with 4 warp nacelles made me wonder. Where is the navigational deflector on the Stargazer, and other Constellation class ships? I just don't see it. Also, would the use of 4 nacelles allow the Federation to use smaller, cheaper nacelles? And those from older, existing designs? I would think warp nacelles would be like jet engines, that are used for many designs, over many years

Actually, I don’t think warp nacelles would be like jet engines; I think each set of coils needs to be customized and tuned to each space frame for optimal warp bubble efficiency. Despite the re-use of the Constitution refit’s nacelle style for Miranda and Stargazer, each new class of ship tends to have unique nacelles. 

See my previous comment about deflectors.