myth-comic

Comic idea:

Girl reads a lot about the gods and decides she’s going to become pagan, so in her garden she sets up a shrine, an eternal fire and goes about her day with an occastional prayer to the right deity.

 Maybe she did something too right in capturing the essence of paganism because her home has become a hot-spot for the gods. Apparently there’s very little amount of proper worshipping going on so every offering/pray is worth 10x more because of how she accidentally made the only New Temple in modern history. The comic is her efforts to keep a normal life when she has basically become a High Priestess by default and her home is now sacred land. 

  •  “No Dionysus, you can not grow a vineyard in my bathroom” 
  • ”Demeter, please. Pomegranates are my favourite. Stop rotting them.” 
  • ”Hades, I know it’s your way of showing you care, but I wouldn’t have told you about my dead pet cat from when I was 7 if you were going to bring it back as a skeleton”
  • ”Thor please do not declare war on the Roman Gods, they conquered an empire. Don’t bring it back.”
  • “Loki, you do not need to dress up as a woman and seduce the guy to save me from my date.” 
  • “Anubis, stop fighting with Cerberus, they have three heads, you have one! Also you’re scaring the fauna and Diana is about to get involved”
  • “Aphrodite, stop commenting on my dress, it’s a date not an orgy. Do not get anyone to swear an oath to come get me if I get kidnapped!” 

anonymous asked:

I wonder what you mean with "Loki’s Jewish-coding". Loki is a Norse god, of Scandinavian origin, not Jewish/middle-eastern. I hope I just misunderstood your fandom tropes because making him a Jew all of a sudden seems extremely weird. Scandinavians can also have VERY curly hair and straighten it because we don't like it.

Um… I’m sort of confused by the assumption that I’m an idiot that seems to be underlying this question. Pretty clearly, I hope, I was talking about Marvel’s Loki, not the original Loki of Norse myth. In fact, in the post you’re talking about, I referred to it as “[MCU] Loki’s Jewish-coding.” The reason “MCU” is in brackets is that I didn’t want to exclude the Loki of the classic Marvel comics—who, I think I recall @fuckyeahrichardiii​ telling me, is even more intensely and problematically Jewish-coded than MCU Loki. I read and write fanfiction about MCU Loki primarily; writers do draw on the myths that inspired the comics and films, but for the most part the more recent fictional representations are the basis.

Because I am not an idiot, I do know that Loki is a Norse god of Scandinavian origin, and it would be absurd to claim that the Loki of myth has Jewish or Middle Eastern characteristics. I have read, in connection with the controversy about the origin of Loki’s name, that he may be a holdover from an earlier, perhaps pre-Indo-European pantheon that was replaced by the Norse one. The Jotnar in Norse myth, like the Titans of Greek myth, do seem to play the role of “old gods” that might represent the gods of the pre-Indo-European populations that were conquered and/or displaced by Indo-European settlers just as the Jotnar/Titans are conquered and displaced by the Aesir/Olympians. Loki is unusual in being a Jotun who is accepted into the community of the Aesir – perhaps an older native god being borrowed into the invaders’ religion? So Loki is already an Other, an outsider relative to the rest of the Norse pantheon.

Despite the fact that Marvel was using Norse gods as the basis for their Asgardian characters, the comics originated in 20th-century America, which was, ineluctably, subject to a number of other cultural influences. Mainstream American culture has been primarily shaped by Christian European culture, and the Other par excellence of Christian Europe has always been the Jew. In European culture, Jewish men have been feminized and, especially around the turn of the 20th century, have been compared to or associated with gay men in light of their shared status as outsiders, as an alien and inscrutable Other, and presumed untrustworthiness. (This is brought out in an especially poignant way by Marcel Proust, a gay man and the son of a Jewish woman, in In Search of Lost Time, particularly in his treatment of the Dreyfus Affair, which was THE political event of the 1890s and left a deep scar on French society that still hadn’t healed when Proust’s books were published 20-30 years later.)

Marvel’s Loki hits many of the points associated with the figure of the Jew in European culture. He is the eternal foreigner in Asgard, his loyalties constantly in question. He is portrayed as sly and manipulative, always pulling strings from behind the scenes, forever plotting to take power from the rightful rulers of Asgard. He does tend to be queer- or feminine-coded, which on its own isn’t necessarily evidence of Jewish-coding, but reinforces the rest of the image. Aside from having dark hair while most Asgardians are blond/golden-haired—a standard trope for emphasizing the “Oriental” origins of European Jews, though many (like myself) are blond or (like my mother and grandmother) red-haired—the Loki of the classic comics also tends to have a hooked nose. (Which is pretty common among cartoon villains, especially sly and conniving ones…)

I first became aware of the implicit Jewish-coding of MCU Loki—which might have been unintentional, or just a consequence of the adaptation from the comics—when I happened across a couple of videos setting footage from Thor and The Avengers to songs from The Prince of Egypt, including “All I Ever Wanted” and “The Plagues.” I realized that Loki’s position as member of a foreign enemy group, rescued from death as a baby and raised, in ignorance of his heritage, as the second prince of the society that conquered the society of his origin, was very similar to that of Moses in The Prince of Egypt. (That movie doesn’t adhere exactly to Moses’s story in Exodus; Moses did actually know where he came from because his sister Miriam volunteered his birth mother as a wet nurse for him. But then, in some versions of the comics, Loki does know that he’s either adopted or Odin’s bastard, so that doesn’t necessarily spoil the parallel.) Then I noticed some of the other characteristics that set Loki apart from Asgardian society at large and his adoptive family in particular… I actually had Loki comment on it in my first Thorki fic, Desert Flowers, which takes place after Loki visits Berlin in the 1920s. (I doubt Antagonistic Anon will care, but some of my other followers might be interested.) It’s easiest for me just to quote that passage. Here Loki is explaining Midgardian racism, including antisemitism, to Thor:

“There are a few characteristic physical traits, though they’re not consistent. Long, arched nose; dark curly hair.” Loki stopped short, his lips pressed tightly together. “In general, they don’t look any more different from other Europeans than I do from you,” he forced himself to say good-humoredly. “In fact, I was given rather shoddy service at a few restaurants—and even turned away from one inn that I was certain still had vacancies—which was very puzzling until I realized that they thought I was Jewish… a member of this group, I mean.”

“Huh,” said Thor disgustedly […]

Loki cleared his throat. “At any rate,” he continued, “the animus toward them centers on their supposed character: greedy, ambitious, deceitful; physically weak, but clever and devious enough to gain power through indirect means.” Me again. Too interested in scholarly pursuits, not enough in manly physical activities; prone to neurosis. All too quickly, the list of antisemitic stereotypes that he had heard tossed around in Berlin had turned into a catalogue of Loki’s own inadequacies. While Thor is the very embodiment of the ‘Aryan ideal.’

Pretty obviously MCU Loki’s hair is naturally curly because Tom Hiddleston’s hair is naturally curly and they can’t always keep it under control. But in combination with its unusual color, the unusual texture and his apparently intense desire to slick it into submission spoke to me. I’ve struggled with the frizzy texture of my own hair, and a lot of other Jews I know try to tame it in various ways, while others go natural and embrace the “Jew-fro.” I’m sure Scandinavian people can have curly hair, and I’m not ruling out an interpretation of Loki’s dislike of his curly hair that has nothing at all to do with his status as Other. But for me it just fits in with everything else that I’ve mentioned.

Jeez, I kind of can’t believe I wrote that much in response to what clearly was not a friendly question. I’m honestly kind of puzzled as to why Anon was so bothered by an offhand comment about Loki being Jewish-coded. (Like, is there a problem with Jews “appropriating” Scandinavian culture…? Don’t worry, folks, Jews have absolutely no interest in replacing you.) Actually, this is the second hostile anonymous “question” I’ve received in the past two weeks, both with decently good grammar (unusual for anon hate) but premised on a wildly uncharitable, deliberately obtuse interpretation of something I wrote (my response to the first is here). If the second didn’t regard a pretty widely shared post of mine, I might suspect a single unfriendly blog-stalker. This is kind of weird, since I never used to get obnoxious anonymous comments; I guess the cost of gradually increasing exposure is assholes.

@darklittlestories, @incredifishface, I thought you might find this whole thing mildly entertaining… Oh, and @andreashwood, because you’re a “Prince of Egypt” fan.

“Telepinu, god of farming in ancient Syrian myth, was temperamental, liable to take offence at small slights (such as a frown from his father Taru, the weather-god) and to hold back or blight the crops. On one occasion he lost his temper altogether, threw on his clothes so quickly that he put his boots on the wrong feet, and disappeared. All over the world plants died, crops failed, human beings began to starve and the gods were denied their sacrifices. Demons swarmed from the Underworld to feast on corpses. The gods quartered the universe to find Telepinu and persuade him back. The Sun smashed down the gate of his palace and ran through the corridors and courtyards looking for him, but they were empty.Then Hannahanna, Mother of All, sent a bee to find Telepinu’s hiding place and sting him into reappearing. Instead of looking in palaces and cities, the bee went where bees go, and found Telepinu hiding among the flowers of a meadow. It stung him on the nose, knees and elbows, but instead of bringing him to his senses the pain made him even angrier, and he began jumping up and down and roaring at the gods. Hannahanna sent Kamrusepas, goddess of magic healing, to poultice his stings with the herb of immortality and soothe the pain. Reluctantly Telepinu let himself be wooed back to work and the order of the universe was saved.

Gods of agriculture are often comic in myth, particularly in traditions where city-dwelling story-tellers have reworked stories from more ancient times. (Agriculture-gods in animist traditions seldom undergo such revisionism.) In Telepinu’s case, another cause of mirth seems to have been that he was not the first god in his family to indulge in frets and sulks: a similar myth (now surviving only in fragments) seems to have been told of his father Taru. Other myths, however, suggest that Telepinu was not entirely a buffoon: in one, when the dragon Illuyankas stole the gods’ eyes and hearts, it was Telepinu who seduced the dragon’s daughter and persuaded her to get them back.”

-  “Telepinu.” In Bloomsbury Dictionary of Myth, by Kenneth McLeish. Bloomsbury, 1996

@blackbearmagic the thing I was trying to link lol. i like this myth because it includes my favourite Hittite deity, Kamrusepas. at the very end there is mention of a myth with Telepinu and a dragon that i have not yet found! this came off my uni library search, but i haven’t read this book before lol.

anonymous asked:

Does anything about the Greek Myths bother you? I mean I'm planning a Hades/Persephone story and I want to mention children, but the thing is I grew up with stories that my Grecian grandparents told me that mentioned Zagreus and Melinoe as being the children of Hades, so you can imagine my shock when I learn't the only written, documented 'canon' sources are the Orphic Hymns that have Zeus rape Persephone. I wanted to know if it was okay for me to use an artistic license on the myths.

Does anything bother me with the Greek myths? Oh, yes. The sexual double standards, for instance. How the male gods could have lots of sexual encounters with mortal women (often with very dubious consent) without consequences, while the goddesses often brought shame upon themselves (and death or misfortune to their lovers) if they did the same. All the incest between the gods has never bothered me that much, though. I simply see the gods as different from humans in that respect.

As for artistic license… I don’t know if you have read my Greek myth comics, but I have certainly taken a few liberties with the original sources there. For instance, in my comic Destroyer of Light I used the Orphic myth about Zagreus/Dionysos, but while I kept the part where Zeus is the one who impregnates Persephone, I changed the dismemberment of Zagreus to an abortion. Because that fitted my story and my version of Persephone better. In my opinion, it’s a bit pointless to just retell a myth without adding your own twist to it. However, when I change a myth I usually add comments that explain what I have changed and why (partly because I’m a nerd, and partly because I don’t want people to believe that my version is the real myth).

One thing we have to remember about the Greek myths is that there never was one canonical version of a certain myth, but several traditions that differed depending on the context and time period. The ancient writers weaved together earlier material with newer ideas. And I think that people should be free to interpret and change the myths how they wish, as long as they don’t claim that their version is the original source or the only way to interpret it. In other words, if you feel that in your story it’s better if Hades is the father of Zagreus and Melinoe, then let it be so (actually, that is how many writers of HxP fics choose to see it. Very few stay true to the Orphic myths. And there is a fragment from a lost play by Aeschylus that seems to connect Zagreus to Hades and the Underworld, so who knows?).

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After reading Hue’s voiced story from Star crossed myth and from laughing so hard I cried… I decided I wanted to sketch how this scene played out in my mind while reading it. …. Bwahahaha! These guys I swear. Get me every time. 😂

I can picture Hue giving them quite the punishment afterwards too….Hee hee.

Thanks again for viewing! You can check out more of my doodles and art on the fanart/my art link on my tumblr, or follow me! Peace!

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Sir Gawain Loses His Boots

Another comic in my series of about the further adventures of Sir Gawain, brave Knight of the Round Table.

The next couple of stories in this ongoing project will be full-colour webcomics like this one.

My other Sir Gawain stories so far were designed and released as limited edition risograph prints - some copies of both are still available from my shop:

Sir Gawain: Witch of the Wirral
Sir Gawain and the Ferryman

More info on this project:

The brilliant, anonymous medieval poet behind the epic Middle English poem ‘Sir Gawain and the Green Knight’ described Gawain’s journey north to meet the fearsome Green Knight in a cursory few dozen lines. We briefly learn that our hero faced many perils along his way, including bears, giants, wild men of the woods, and all kinds of trials of nature. I’m filling in that part of the story with a series of standalone comics, in print and online, following Gawain’s many adventures as he crosses a mythic and strange Britain full of monsters and magic.