October 1939, Soviet and German troops meet at the center of Poland after its defeat, as part of the agreements of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, in which it was stated that the soviets would occupy Eastern Poland, while the Germans kept the west, the Vistula river becoming the new border between the two nations.
The flyers the germans are handing over read: “The German Army salutes the Red Army of workers and farmers, which has always held in the highest respect.”
El Final de Polonia (sin audio)
Octubre de 1939, tropas Soviéticas y Alemanas se encuentran en el centro de Polonia luego de su derrota, como parte de los acuerdos del Pacto Ribbentrop-Mólotov, donde se estableció que los Soviéticos ocuparían Polonia oriental, mientras que los alemanes se quedarían con occidente, el río Vistula convirtiéndose en la nueva frontera entre ambas naciones.
Los panfletos que los Alemanes reparten dicen: “El Ejercito Alemán saluda al Ejercito Rojo de trabajadores y granjeros, el cual siempre ha tenido en el mayor de los respetos”.
Joint Declaration of the Ministers of Justice of the Baltic States
Based on the criminal Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of 23 August 1939 and its secret protocols, the USSR in June 1940, occupied and annexed three independent Baltic States: the Republic of Estonia, the Republic of Latvia and the Republic of Lithuania. After 50 years of resistance to the occupant regime, the people of the three Baltic States re-established their independence. Many of them sacrificed their lives and/or were deported from their homeland.
During the years of occupation the three Baltic States were exploited for political and economic needs of the occupying regime; as a result they have suffered enormous demographic and socio-economic losses. After the collapse of the USSR, the Russian Federation declared itself to be the successor of the rights and obligations of the USSR. Consequently, all claims arising from the occupation of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and its consequences, at present shall be solved with the Russian Federation.
We, the Ministers of Justice of the Baltic States declare that it is time to arrange the relationship with the past and to calculate in a scientifically justified manner the losses caused by the totalitarian communist occupation regime of the USSR. The Declaration aims at emphasising the need for the national experts and politicians of the three countries to enhance their joint efforts and address the following issues.
1. To state the fact that the Baltic States never ceased to legally exist, even during the Soviet occupation.
2. To assess and declare through joint cooperation the total economic loss and damage inflicted upon the three Baltic States by the USSR, based on the most practical and thorough research method.
3. To highlight the fact of occupation in relations with the Russian Federation and to ensure that the Russian Federation as the successor of rights and obligations of the USSR acknowledges this occupation, takes full responsibility and compensates all related losses.
4.To enable the three Baltic States to prepare for international actions in accordance with International Law to claim legally and factually justified compensation from the Russian Federation.
5.To ensure that current and future generations have full and objective understanding of the USSR occupation and its impact based on the facts and information obtained from the research and calculations, and to provide them with means of taking legal action individually.
6.To ensure that the crimes of the Soviet totalitarian regime and in particular the occupation of the Baltic States receive respective evaluation at the international level.
(I felt like trying my hand at writing some fic, as a change from just drawing!)
Summary: It’s 1947, and they’re supposed to be picking up the pieces. Alfred makes a scene, Ivan is unmoved and Arthur reflects on how the world has changed- and what Alfred has become.
Warnings: historical!hetalia. allusions to various real events. profanity.
The silence is shattered by the sound of Alfred’s chair scraping across the floor.
Alfred is smiling, as always. There is no want for jauntiness in his manner, nor in the casual friendliness of his relaxed slouch, palms pressed to the table. He’d always been good at that. Putting people at ease. Not for the first time, Arthur thinks of the tall blonde surrounded by a ragged semi-circle of German children, cracking jokes, ruffling heads, handing out sweets and chewing gum. They took to him easily; he was every bit that straightforward and handsome boy-next-door, who might’ve been their older brother in another life.
But now, there is also something distinctly calculating in the tilt of his head, in the sharp alertness of his eyes.
Didn't you say something to the effect NazBol wouldn't have worked IRL?
Oh yeah, I did. The Soviet Union was defacto allied to the Axis with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and there were talks of the USSR formally joining the Axis against the western powers. It almost happened.
Anyway, even that would have lost – the USA, British Empire, China and the rest of the allies still would have won in the long run, since even then they still had more men and materiel and would have been able to outproduce this larger Axis. It would obviously have been a much more desperate fight – the Brits would have leaned on their colonies a lot more than they did historically and the US would need to lean on Latin America by the same way – and the USA would have been bled white like the British and Soviets were IRL instead of having the war be happily economically invigorating for them, but they still would have won.
Even playing with the numbers slightly – having the French, Spanish, and Portuguese and their empires join the Axis, so all of continental Europe on the that side – still wouldn’t add enough to tip the balance to them. And the (Vichy) French and Spanish kind of were defacto German allies IRL as is.
As for any idea of how the actual war would go, and its aftermath, I’m leery of guessing too much. Any German version of Lend-Lease to the Soviets would have been a lot crappier than the American version, so the Soviet forces would still badly suck, and the UK would have been as bombed out and ruined as the rest of Europe IRL after the war. Nukes would probably have to be used on Germany and Russia just to get through to them, in a scenario that’s increasingly sounding an eerily lot like a WWII version of Operation Dropshot.
The biggest changes by far will be postwar: the lack of a cold war, the USA more hardened in attitude than it was historically, and communism as distinctly discredited as fascism after the war. (Especially with those gulags discovered….) Which itself would be a fascinating thought experiment, but it’ll have to be one for another day.
People act like the USSR were some kind of saviors for the Jewish people as if the Germans/Hitler/Nazis held some kind of monopoly on antisemitism, which is comically false. The Russians have hated their Jews for literal centuries. They hated us before the USSR during the time of the Czars (literally just google the word “Pogrom”), during the time of the USSR when the culturally Christian-style of atheism was set in place and Judaism was classified as “Zionism” (Different from the racist style of Zionism that the Israeli apartheid state perpetrates) and therefore an “Ideology” that was “detrimental” to the Communist state. Jews became second-class citizens in the Soviet state where we were subjected to constant surveillance, kidnappings, interrogations, torture, and the inability to leave. And then after the collapse of the USSR and into the modern day.
Stalin was more than willing to work with Hitler and the Nazis despite the fact that Fascism and Communism are the antithesis of each other as they both had imperialist desires and intentions. This was proven by the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, where the USSR pretty much gave the Nazis their blessings to invade Poland (a joint invasion where the USSR would be given the eastern portions of the Polish state with assistance from the Wehrmacht) and the USSR would be allowed to invade the Baltic states, Finland, etc. Stalin was fully aware of Hitler’s antisemitism (how could you not be?) and massacres against the Jewish population of Poland began almost immediately as soon as the German invasion began. The Nazis never would have invaded Poland without Stalin’s blessing so as to avoid another two-front war situation that inevitably caused Germany to lose WW1. Also lets not forget the conferences between the NKVD (Soviet secret police) and the Gestapo (Nazi secret police) where the two sides shared many strategies and tactics for dealing with the deportations and murders of Jews, polish nationals, and any other kind of dissenters.
Say what you will about the minor improvements that Soviet Jews had
under Stalin such as migrations from the Pale into the cities, Stalin
delivered Poland and its Jews right into Hitlers hands. The only reason Stalin and the USSR went to war with Germany is the obvious fact that Germany broke the pact and invaded the USSR in what we now know as Operation Barbarossa.
tl;dr the Soviets were never allies of the Jewish people, the USSR was more than willing to cooperate and collaborate with the Nazis in the murder of Jews and it only stopped when Hitler broke the pact that allowed him free reign in eastern Europe.
FINLAND. Between November 30, 1939 and March 13, 1940. A Finnish soldier with a Molotov Cocktail during the Winter War (1939-1940).
A Molotov cocktail is a breakable glass bottle containing a flammable substance such as petrol or a napalm-like mixture, with some motor oil added, and usually a source of ignition such as a burning cloth wick held in place by the bottle’s stopper. The wick is usually soaked in alcohol or kerosene, rather than petrol. In action, the wick is lit and the bottle hurled at a target such as a vehicle or fortification. When the bottle smashes on impact, the ensuing cloud of petrol droplets and vapour ignites, causing an immediate fireball followed by spreading flames as the remainder of the fuel is consumed.
Due to the relative ease of production, they are frequently used by street criminals, protesters and non-professionally equipped fighters in riots, gang warfare, and urban guerilla warfare. They are primarily intended to set targets ablaze rather than instantly obliterate them.
The name “Molotov cocktail” was coined by the Finns during the Winter War. The name is an insulting reference to Soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov, who was responsible for the setting of “spheres of interest” in Eastern Europe under the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in August 1939. The pact with the Nazis bearing Molotov’s name was widely mocked by the Finns, as was much of the propaganda Molotov produced to accompany the pact, including his declaration on Soviet state radio that bombing missions over Finland were actually airborne humanitarian food deliveries for their starving neighbours. When the hand-held bottle firebomb was developed to attack Soviet tanks, the Finns called it the “Molotov cocktail”. Molotov himself despised the name, particularly as the term became ubiquitous.
I know this is sort of a bizarre one, but I have this headcannon about Germany and Russia having a sort of fling for the couple of years that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact lasted. I apologise for anyone who hates that idea for any reason!
Hey! I'm really interested in your nation, and I'm doing a presentation about the Singing Revolution at school. I was wondering if you have any good websites/information that you could give me? That would be really appreciated!
It all started in 1985 when Gorbatchev introduced glastnost (openess) and perestroika (restructuring). It was his first mistake that lead to his downfall.
In 1987 Moscow introduced plans to start mining phosphorus in Virumaa (grey areas on the picture is where phosphorus sources are located)
Estonian’s didn’t really like that as that would have meant even more foreign workers and Estonians were already slowly becoming minority (in 1980′s Estonians made up barely 61% of population). Other reason was that mining would have done huge damage to Virumaa’s nature.
It sparked massive protests and it is considered the spark that started revolution in Estonia. Soviet authorities had to abandon the mining plans by September since people were so against it.
On 23rd August first protest against Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was held. (Known as Hirvepargi Meeting in Estonia).
On 14th May Five Patriotic Songs were performed in Tartu Pop Music Festival and Estonian flag was brought out for the first time, however it was placed as all colours on 3 flags.
In June, after the Old Town Days were over, the authorities told people to leave (they performed the Five Patriotic Songs again) but the crowd moved to the Song Festival Grounds - hence the name Night Songfestivals. People sang through the night, performing national songs that were forbidden by authorities.
There Estonian flag was properly brought out for the first time. It was
done by a lone man on a motorcycle, but after him “the flags popped out
from crowd like mushrooms after rain” as witnesses have later told. The lone biker got a tribute in 2008, at the Jubilee Night Songfestival.
On September 11, “Song of Estonia” was held at Song Festival Grounds. There gathered 300 000 Estonians (or 1/3 of all Estonians in the world). Heinz Valk coined his now famous “Ükskord me võidame nii kui nii!” (”One day we shall win, no matter what!”) there. It was the first time full independence was demanded by our public leaders.
On 16 November, the legislative body of Estonia issued the Estonian Sovereignty Declaration. It meant Estonian laws are superiour to those of Soviet Union’s. Basically autonomy was declared.
On 7th December Estonian is declared to be the state language of Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic.
On 24th of February, people could start to register themselves as Estonian citizens (as de jure Republic of Estonia existed).
On 23rd August 2 million Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians linked hands to form 600 km long human chain to demand freedom. It was one of the first protests Western Media recognised and reported.
On August 20th, Soviet Troops try to storm Estonian TV tower, the only connection with outside world, due military coup. People went to protect TV tower from tanks with no weapons whatsoever.
August 20th 23.03 The Estonian Supreme Soviet along with Congress declared restoration of Republic of Estonia.
August 22nd Iceland becomes first country in the world to recognise Republic of Estonia.
Somewhere around August, September - Lenin’s statue is removed from Lenin Square (renamed Iceland Square to show Estonians gratitude to Iceland for recognising us first.)
1994 - The Russian army leaves Estonia. World War II (and Soviet Occupation) comes to an end for Estonians
On 25 March, candles for the Estonians forcefully taken from their homes by the Soviets in 1949, are lighted on Freedom Square in Tallinn. Nearly 3% of the Estonian population were seized in a few days and dispatched to remote areas of Siberia. About quarter of the people already died in exile. This was the most affecting deportation to Estonia out of the many others demanded by the Communist Party.
I’m just quite annoyed that on that WW2 post, people are like “well to be fair it was still started by a bunch of white countries who dragged in their colonies”.
Um no that’s still not accurate. WW2 was started mostly by TWO countries (I won’t get into the Nazi-Soviet Molotov-Ribbentrop pact now for the sake of simplicity) with mad ambitions of world domination, aka Nazi Germany and ImperialJapan. No manipulative European or “white” country dragged Japan into WW2. Not Germany, not the USSR, not the US, not China. NOBODY. They started the shit in the Asia because like Germany, they were infected with a very militant form of ethnic nationalism and wanted an empire.
Who d'you think the Asian anti-Japanese underground movements were fighting???? Nazi Germany??
Can this collective historical amnesia about one entire half of WW2 please stop? It’s bad enough that people don’t seem to treat Japanese war crimes with any level of severity approaching Nazi war crimes.