King Aegon gave his solemn word that his youngest daughter, Rhaelle, would wed Lord Lyonel’s heir. To seal the bargain, Princess Rhaelle was sent to Storm’s End to serve as Lord Lyonel’s cupbearer and companion to his lady wife. In 245 AC Princess Rhaelle fulfilled her father’s promise and wed Ormund Baratheon, young Lord of Storm’s End. The following year she gave him a son, Steffon, who served as a page and a squire at King’s Landing and became a close companion of Prince Aerys, eldest son of King Jaehaerys II and heir to the Iron Throne. // léa seydoux as rhaelle targaryen
“What is honor compared to a woman’s love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms … or the memory of a brother’s smile? Wind and words. Wind and words. We are only human, and the gods have fashioned us for love. That is our great glory, and our great tragedy."
I’m sorry, but we really do not need a Tywin POV to tell us he didn’t love Tyrion, not when we have THIS in the existing text:
“You ask that? You, who killed your mother to come into the world? You are an ill-made, devious, disobedient, spiteful little creature full of envy, lust, and low cunning. Men’s laws give you the right to bear my name and display my colors, since I cannot prove that you are not mine. To teach me humility, the gods have condemned me to watch you waddle about wearing that proud lion that was my father’s sigil and his father’s before him. But neither gods nor men shall ever compel me to let you turn Casterly Rock into your whorehouse.”
I mean Jesus, if that tirade doesn’t make his feelings extremely clear, I don’t know what does. It might as well come with a flashing neon sign saying “I Hate Your Very Existence And This Is Why by Tywin Lannister.” Saying Tywin did not love Tyrion is not erasing or dismissing the very real situations where abusers and the abused do feel love for the other, it is stating a cold, hard, textually-based fact: Tywin not only did not love Tyrion, he actively loathed him.
Tyrion’s feelings on the other hand are more complex: it’s a natural instinct for a child to love and want to be loved by their parents. Tyrion yearns to have normal relationships with his family - he is hurt when his sister (another family member who abuses him) rejects his awkward attempt to comfort her:
When your sister cries, you were supposed to comfort her … but this was Cersei! He reached a tentative hand for her shoulder.
“Don’t touch me,” she said, wrenching away. It should not have hurt, yet it did, more than any slap.
So, while I wouldn’t say Tyrion feels love or indeed anything resembling normal affection towards his father, who has tyrannised and tormented him his entire life, he knows how healthy familial relationships are supposed to work and it’s possible that he would like to be able to love his father on top of longing for Tywin to respect him and treat him as his son and lawful heir.
Jackson made some really questionable decisions around Tolkein's work, but watch 10 minutes of the extra footage for the LOTR movies and you can tell how much he (and his writing team) respected Tolkein and what he created. They read the books, the actors read them, and they made a real effort to understand them. Such a contrast to how Team GOT operates.
Precisely. I mean, I saw all the LOTR movies, never read the books and was never a part of that fandom, but I don’t remember ever hearing major dissension from the Tolkien crowd when those flicks came out (The Hobbit, on the other hand… lol). But with GoT, I already knew there was strong hate coming from the book crowd, but I figured it was just par for the course and nerds being super picky…. You know, like a typical show-watcher. ;-P It wasn’t until after i watched the show (through Season 4) then started educating myself about the source material that I realized WOW the book-readers actually have really valid points!!
And that’s just the thing – you won’t understand until you understand. Show-watchers think we’re complaining because we’re “purists”. NO. It’s one thing to make changes; it’s quite another to make changes that fly so blatantly in the face of everything the source material stands for. Once you realize WHAT exactly the changes ARE, then you inevitably HAVE to start asking yourself WHY those decisions were made. And then that is when shit starts looking suuuuper shady…
What irritates me about GoT/ASoIaF speculation now is that people genuinely act like they know what isn’t or isn’t deviating from TWoW in every storyline even though the book hasn’t come out and there are quite a few storylines that haven’t dramatically changed from their book counterparts up this point. Theories aren’t facts.
Chapters: 16/20 Fandom: A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin, Game of Thrones (TV) Rating: Mature Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Jon Snow/Sansa Stark, Jon Snow/Margaery Tyrell, Brandon Stark/Catelyn Stark, Ashara Dayne/Ned Stark, Myrcella Baratheon/Aegon VI Targaryen, Sansa Stark/Willas Tyrell, Robb Stark/Jeyne Westerling, Catelyn Stark/Ned Stark, Aegon Targaryen/Margaery Tyrell, Tyene Sand/Willas Tyrell, Jorah Mormont/Daenerys Targaryen, Brandon Stark/Lyanna Stark, Lyanna Stark/Rhaegar Targaryen, Arya Stark/Gendry Waters, Myranda Royce/Mya Stone, Robert “Sweetrobin” Arryn/Tommen Baratheon, Jojen Reed/Meera Reed/Bran Stark, Arianne Martell/Aegon VI Targaryen Characters: Jon Snow, Sansa Stark, Bran Stark, Arya Stark, Aegon VI Targaryen, Myrcella Baratheon, Margaery Tyrell, Catelyn Tully Stark, Ned Stark, Robb Stark, Benjen Stark, Ashara Dayne, Jon Connington, Grenn (ASoIaF), Pypar (ASoIaF), Samwell Tarly, Wylla Manderly, Toregg the Tall (aSoIaF), Jeyne Poole, Beth Cassel, Willas Tyrell, Donella Hornwood, Maester Aemon, Myranda Royce, Mya Stone, Gendry Waters, Dacey Mormont, Jon “The Smalljon” Umber Additional Tags: Emotional Infidelity, Childhood Friends, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Alternate Universe - Modern Setting, Male-Female Friendship, Military Backstory, Unresolved Sexual Tension, Sexual Content, Loss of Virginity, Friends to Lovers, Protective Jon, Jon is Sansa’s Hero, Canon Disabled Character, Minor Character Death, Implied/Referenced Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Drunk Driving, Unplanned Pregnancy, Implied/Referenced Cheating, Dysfunctional Targaryens, Light Bondage, Oral Sex, Arranged Marriage, Adoptive Uncle Ned, Soldier Benjen Summary:
Modern AU. Tied together intricately by their past and present, Jon and Sansa are no strangers to complicated. Choices and consequences have shaped their lives, but as their bond holds strong, how far will life’s complications go in forging their future?