Ichabod was going to tell Abbie he loved her and here’s why.
I’ve watched this scene about 50 times now. I’m very tired, but I just had to get this out of my system.
I am a total sucker for slow burn relationships. To me, it makes the relationship all the more worthwhile if we get to watch that chemistry grow and develop and become something beautiful over time. Strangers to friends to lovers is one of my favorite tropes, and it’s even better when the two people involved are so thickheaded and can’t see what’s right in front of them, even when everyone around them can.
The moment when Abbie and Ichabod come back from Purgatory was more intimate than I could have every imagined. It was all I really needed to know that this relationship is anything but platonic. (I mean we all kind of knew that already, but ya know.) But I theorize that that was the moment when it hit them both. I think they knew that they loved each other, but I’m not so sure they knew in what way. Abbie and Ichabod have this bond, right? Which automatically makes them incredibly close to one another. Ever since they met, they have learned to know the other better than they know themselves. With something like that, especially in a story with all these fantastical elements, it’s not too far of a stretch to wonder if they both mistook any budding romantic feelings and disregarded them as their strong bond. I mean think about it for a second; Abbie is so incredibly guarded. She’s spent years building up these walls that she’s not so sure she wants to let come down quite yet. I want to say that Jenny and Ichabod are the only two people who have really seen her truly vulnerable, which automatically increases the level of intimacy. Ichabod was married for the first two seasons (which I’m not gonna rant about Katrina’s wasted potential because she could have been such an amazing character and wasn’t given the proper character development she deserved). I don’t think he could even entertain the thought of being with someone else while still married to Katrina. Even during all of this, their relationship grew into this unbreakable bond, which neither of them could have ever expected. I think that after Katrina’s death and during all that time Abbie and Ichabod spent away from each other, they felt the other’s absence more strongly than anything. The cliché, “absence makes the heart grow fonder,” is actually pretty valid in this circumstance. The more they’re forcibly taken away from each other, the harder they fight to get back to one another.
Ichabod was going to tell Abbie he loved her during that last scene in 3x10. There was so much emotion between the two of them throughout the entire episode, but that last scene… Oh my God, it was so raw and so beautiful. I feel like we were witnessing their realization. For the first half Abbie could barely look at him because she was trying so hard to control herself. She had a death grip on his hand while she just stared at nothing. In Purgatory she couldn’t hug him, she couldn’t touch him, nothing. In Purgatory she thought her brain was playing tricks on her when she heard his voice. So she held on while he talked so she knew this was real. HE was real and she was home. When she looks at him again she can’t look away. And the whole time Ichabod is just staring at her like he can’t believe she’s here in front of him, like he can’t believe she’s really here and she’s really, truly safe. He looks at her like she’s his entire world (as he has several times this season).. And then there’s a moment after Abbie whispers, “We made it,” when his eyes grow wider and he looks at her like, “…oh…” and then he shifts a little, like something has just made itself known to him. For the first time he breaks eye contact for the first time and ducks his head to look down before getting to his feet. I think this was the moment when Ichabod especially realized, “if I lose her, I lose part of my soul. I lose my other half. I lose the person I love.” Both their actions alone just screamed, “I love this person more than I initially realized.” And when they get to their feet Ichabod doesn’t let go of Abbie’s hand. He’s still holding on when Abbie turns to kiss Joe’s cheek. When she turns back around, he’s looking at her before his eyes drop to their hands.
Looking at Abbie, her hand looks like she’s about to let go. Abbie has her moments for intimacy, but she normally can only take so much. Abbie is a very, let’s get down to business to defeat the huns, and kick some ass, person. She knows when to set all other things aside and step into her role as a Witness. But she also has that side of her that’s emotional and cares so much, which is what makes her such a fantastic and well-rounded character. They’re having this moment and Ichabod senses that he’s about to lose it. So he holds on. He brings his other hand up and just holds on to her before he has to let go. He runs his fingers over her hand like it’s the most precious thing he’s ever seen. His eyes move from their hands to Abbie’s face. And then he looks at Joe and we finally get a sense of how nervous Ichabod is. His mouth is partly open but he can’t find the words. When he looks at Joe, you know he’s thinking about that conversation they had in episode 7. You remember the one:
Ichabod: “There is nothing more frustrating than the feeling of helplessness in the face of an unknown foe, which is why we must seize control whilst we can.”
Ichabod: “Talk to her.”
Joe: “…Right… What about you? I get the feeling it’s not just rage monsters that make you feel helpless.”
Ichabod: “Well… I have become well acquainted with the vicissitudes of life.”
Ichabod: “But yes, I have become keenly aware of late that I may be fighting a losing battle. On many fronts, against bureaucrats, against developers, against-” *He breaks off suddenly as his eyes find Abbie across the room. His eyes dart away as soon as they see her and his hands, which he’s been using to indicate his list of struggles, drop to the desk. But not before he’s indicated towards Abbie. He’s suddenly very interested in this book.* *Whispered* “Against many fronts…”
Joe: *Understanding dawns on him as he looks at Abbie.* “Well maybe you should take your own advice. Talk to her.”
Yeah. That one.
When Ichabod now looks at Joe, you know that conversation is going through his head. Talk to her. So he’s going to. He takes a deep breath and pulls Abbie’s hand to his chest. He’s going to confess that he loves her right there.
So why does he stop?
Well, I think there’s two options here. One is that he chokes at the last second and just can’t confess yet. But personally I think that’s unlikely.
I think that Ichabod realizes it’s just not the right time.
For one, Abbie desperately needs time to rest. Being completely alone like that for so long does things to a person’s head. Abbie was playing chess against herself to try and keep herself remotely sane. She was alone for 10 months and while she might not have had to eat, sleep, or drink, she’s got to be exhausted not only physically but emotionally. She needs time to recoup and Ichabod respects that. He wants her to know, but only when she’s ready. So he makes another call, cracks a joke, and makes everyone laugh. He’ll save the romantic gestures for another day.
what i really like is how every single parental figure harry has had (besides his dead parents) has been shown to be incredibly flawed. this is something that you rarely see in any book, let alone a children’s series.
you have hagrid who loves harry so so so much but also isnt the smartest of men and often gets too emotional to use the logic that he does have. he loves so passionately, that he refuses to see the bad in anyone (mainly because of the prejudice he has faced). this doesn’t bode well for harry because of the constant accidental slips of information and his undying loyalty to dumbledore and any other character he finds to be admirable.
molly who loves harry as one of her own, but smothers him desperately. she is so protective of harry that at times she almost sees him as her property (“he’s not your son”, “he’s as good as!”). she coddles him immensely, and even though he has seen tragedy and death more times than she could ever imagine, she still treats him as if he is a wounded stray in need of her biscuits and warmth.
dumbledore who acted as if he viewed harry as his equal, only to be raising him for slaughter. dumbledore who let harry live in an abusive home and go through these horrors, just to shape him into this perfect martyr. dumbledore who viewed harry as a chess piece, making sure that he stays alive long enough to vanquish the dark lord.
sirius, who loved harry more than anything in the world. sirius who broke out of azkaban and stayed inside his old home that constantly reminded him of his past, the aspect of himself he never wanted to confront. sirius, who saw so much of james in harry. sirius who never got the revenge he craved, but now he has his best friend back…well, a version of his best friend. sirius who grew cold towards his godson whenever he didn’t act exactly like his father would have.
remus, who saw and understood the nightmares that harry had to face. remus who didn’t see harry as his mother or father, but as a child who was forced to grow up far too fast to face things no human should ever have to face. remus, though he loved harry, could never truly be there for him. remus who was so riddled with his own self-hatred that he could never allow himself to get close to harry, the way he knew harry needed him to.
arthur, who was a humble man who stood up for what was right. he too saw harry as one of his sons. arthur, who despite his social standing did his hardest to provide a good life for his family. arthur who too often worried that harry would end up dead, and that he would bring one of his other children down with him. arthur who loved harry, but secretly feared what having harry potter in his life would do to his own.
The timeline of the events preceding The Force Awakens is, to put it delicately, a horrible mess. While certain things (characters’ ages, for example) are mostly clear, others (especially the timings of key events) are frustratingly obscure.
Because of this, I wanted to put together a post making it clear what we do know and we we can reasonably assume based on the various snatches of information afforded to us. I will cite the sources we have for each event and - where necessary - include discussion on how those sources are best interpreted/perceived.
BE - Before the Battle of Endor (the climactic battle at the end of Return of the Jedi)
AE - After the Battle of Endor
UD - Unknown date
* - The date is approximated
4 BE - General Hux is born (S/PH) to Brendol Hux and an unknown mother. He is 34 in TFA.
2 BE - Poe Dameron is born (PH) to Shara Bey and Kes Dameron. He is 32 in TFA.
0 BE - The Battle of Endor occurs.
1 AE - Ben Solo (later Kylo Ren) is born (PH) to Leia Organa and Han Solo.* He is 29-30 in TFA.
UD AE - Luke Skywalker sets about teaching a new generation of Jedi (S).
7 AE - Finn is born (PH/VD) to unknown parents. He is 23 in TFA.
11 AE - Rey is born (PH/VD) to unknown parents. She is 19 in TFA.
UD AE - Ben Solo is sent to train as a Jedi with his uncle Luke (S).
- “That’s why I wanted him to train with Luke. I just never should have sent him away. That’s when I lost him” (S).
UD AE - Ben Solo abandons his Jedi training and joins the Dark side to become Snoke’s apprentice, assuming the pseudonym Kylo Ren (TFA).
- This event may have occurred at the same time as Kylo’s betrayal of the Jedi, but there is no clear-cut evidence confirming this either way. Therefore, Ben’s turn to the Dark side and the destruction of the Jedi are treated as separate events.
16 AE - Rey is left with Unkar Plutt on Jakku by persons unknown (EW). Rey is five years old at the time.
UD AE - Kylo Ren “betrays” Luke’s new Jedi Order, earning the nickname “Jedi Killer” (TFA/VD).
- “One boy, an apprentice turned against him, destroyed it all” (S).
- “Kylo Ren betrayed the other Jedi students training with Master Luke Skywalker, and is responsible for their destruction” (VD).
UD AE - Luke retreats to seclusion in Ahch-To (TFA).
- “Luke felt responsible… He walked away from everything” (S).
- “There’re a lot of rumors. Stories. The people who knew him the best think he went looking for the first Jedi temple” (S).
UD AE - Han Solo leaves Leia Organa to return to his smuggling ways (TFA/VD).
- “That’s why I wanted him to train with Luke. I just never should have sent him away. That’s when I lost him. That’s when I lost you both” (S).
- “After a profound tragedy upended what had become normal for the Correlian, Solo returned to his old life as a tramp freighter captain” (VD).
24/25 AE - The events of Bloodline occur (DRB/JH).
30 AE - The events of The Force Awakens occur.*
Now, it’s very important to state here that the arrangement of the UD events is tentative and likely to change once we have more concrete information. The most important UD events are, of course, Ben Solo’s turn to the Dark side and the destruction of Luke’s new Jedi Order. There are two main schools of thought surrounding these events, which are:
Ben turned when he was a teenager
- This is supported by a line in the script: “Han is JOLTED – seeing the face of his son for the first time as a man” (S). The clear implication of this is that Han last saw Ben when he was a boy, which would suggest that he turned as an adolescent.
- Concept art depicting the “young Jedi killer” (”Jedi killer” being Kylo’s production name) appears in ATFA (p. 154) and clearly shows an adolescent boy rather than a man. This concept was produced in January 2014, close to the start of production, indicating that it was associated with a later and (presumably) mostly final draft of the script.
- In this theory, Ben was a young boy when he was led astray by Snoke - this is implied by his general immaturity and deeply unbalanced emotions as a grown man, which suggest stunted emotional development.
Ben turned when he was a young man of 23/24
- This is supported by the timing of Bloodline, which takes place five or six years prior to TFA. Some people have pointed out that Bloodline has been described as showing Han and Leia “in happier times”, and have taken this as confirmation that it takes place before or during Ben’s turn to the dark side (based on the evidence suggesting that Han left Leia after Ben turned). However, it’s important to note that the tweet used as evidence that Han and Leia are still together in Bloodline reads as follows:
Jennifer Heddle @jenheddle 20 Dec 2015 @amaraz43 We will definitely show happier H/L times in our books…check out Bloodline next year!
That tweet does not promise that the “happier H/L times” are shown in Bloodline. It promises “happier H/L times” in future books before urging the person to read Bloodline, which is the next canon book due for release. Therefore, it can’t be cited of definite proof that they are together in the book, although another tweet:
Jennifer Heddle @jenheddle 21 Dec 2015 @michaelcgriff Bloodline is set about 5 years before TFA. There is some cute H/L stuff in it.
Does seem to unambiguously promise “cute” Han/Leia interaction in Bloodline. However, that does not necessarily mean they are a couple in the book - it’s possible that they encounter each other in the book after separating some time prior. This would seem to be supported by yet another tweet:
Jennifer Heddle @jenheddle Feb 9 @iluvkoalas71 He’s [Han] in the book, not a lot, not in flashback.
So, Han is present in the book but is not heavily featured. That would make sense if he has another life separate from Leia’s, and only encounters her briefly during the events of the book.
- It has been suggested that this timing is more plausible, since some people find it difficult to accept that a teenage boy could successfully enact a massacre.
- In this theory, Ben was an adult who chose to follow Snoke despite receiving extensive Jedi training - this makes him seem more responsible for his choices, and potentially less redeemable.
Personally, I go for the theory holding that Ben turned when he was a teenager, with Luke and Han making their respective departures in the aftermath of his betrayal. The timeline presented above adheres to this interpretation.
We’ll have more information on what happened when once Bloodline comes out, so you can expect a revised version of this timeline come May time.
I welcome any clarifications regarding this timeline, and also invite debate - let me know your thoughts, as I’m perfectly happy to revise my timeline if new evidence crops up.
Hi, sorry to be a bother, but can I ask, what are the types of pitches Mihashi can throw? There's the 'slow' fastball, the 'fast' fastball... and then I think a curveball? and a shoot? And in recent manga chapters, something called the knuckleball? I've been trying to research what they actually look like, but the proper terms are eluding me...
Vic here. Mihashi has slow ”fastball”, fast “fastball”, curveball, slider, shootball (shuuto), knuckle curve.
Shootball / Shuuto
A standard curveball, thrown with one or more of the index or mean fingers bent.
Gives a better grip on the ball and allows for tighter spin and greater movement. In all other respects, this knuckle curve is identical to the standard curveball.