So someone just responded to me and probably @alethiaii as well, and then made it so I couldn’t respond back, so I’m going to reply to their post here.
oh. im sorry. my bad. tony was just the head of a company involved in war profiteering. wow. thats so much better. he just owned this company and made his money on the deaths of people of colour in war-torn countries. what an iNNoCenT BaBY
Okay, did you even read what I wrote? Tony’s company did not War Profiteer and I’m fairly sure you don’t know what that word means. For more imformation on what War Profiteering actually looks like (note: it does not look like offering to sell body armor for less than the cost to make it) read This post or google the Brooklyn brothers during the civil war.
Also the company did not make money off of the weapons Obidiah sold, or it would have been very obvious and the government would have caught him years ago. Obidiah made money off of those weapons and the people he personally bank rolled.
And yeah his company made money off of the deaths of anybody in countries the US was fighting in, and you could argue that that is his fault, but the fact is if the US is going to war people are dying, they’d take Hammer Weapons if Stark weapons weren’t available and American soldiers would have died, which Tony was raised to believe was unacceptable.
also one line “ultron, my fault”? that is not accountability. if a mass murderer says “oh i killed those people”, but doesnt get punished, that is not accountability l m a o
Except Tony didn’t kill those people, Ultron did, and yeah he blames himself, but it was also Bruce and Wanda’s fault, and most importantly it’s the mind gem’s fault. “We were nowhere close to an interface” Yeah Ultron was horrible, but if he had been made the way Tony intended, if he hadn’t been spooked by Wanda, there wouldn’t have been an evil Ultron, and if Wanda and Pietro hadn’t helped him he may have never gotten far enough to actually life part of Sokovias capitol.
like tony should be in jail and that’s facts
one black woman told him her son died in sokovia and he tried to guilt trip the avengers into signing the accords (when all they were doing was fucking damage control and cleaning up tonys mess) because ~we all fuck up sometimes~
You literally spent the first half of this talking about how Tony is never held accountable for his actions, and then spew this bullshit. The point of the Accords is to hold the Avengers. and Tony accountable for their actions. Tony supported them because he felt responsible for deaths during Ultron.
You want accountability that’s what the Accords offer for all of the Avengers. Also the reason the Avengers needed to sign the Accords are the events of Lagos, they’ve been entering countries without government permission and causing massive amounts of property damage and death. There needs to be a system of accountability.
Oh wait that’s the accords.
YOU FUCK UP AND YOU NEVER ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
LIKE OKAY PEOPLE SCREW UP BUT MOST PEOPLE DONT LEAD TO KILLER MACHINE AIS WIPING OUT ENTIRE COUNTRIES
like if you cared you would go to jail and repent
you would come out the other side and dedicate your life to righting wrongs e.g. volunteering in sokovia, starting scholarships in the name of the children who died, rehabilitating PTSD victims who were affected by your weapons
Tony literally does all of those things, he grants scholarships to kids at MIT so they can make the world a better place, he spends billions helping to clean up the city, and while he isn’t personally there cleaning up, he is working to prevent another tragedy from occuring, (see the infinity wars sneak peek thing)
and like he was a grown man “he didn’t know stark industries produced weapons” isn’t a good enough excuse lmao
like we get you’re an ignorant privileged white man but like all those poor people of colour still died under your watch
so i’m sure saying “i didn’t know” is great consolation to them lol
I never said he didn’t know SI produced weapons, I said he thought those weapons were only being sold to the US military. And when he found out they were in the hands of people harming innocents he immediately dedicated himself to stopping them. Yes people died, and the man who was responsible for a lot of that, Tony killed him. Someone broke his trust, and stole from him for years, and you blame Tony. It’s clearly Obidiahs fault. If I designed a gun, and someone stole the design, built the gun, and shot someone with it, then they are a murderer, and I am a person who was stolen from. Not a murderer.
also like shutting down weapons manufacturing was a good first step but like…it doesn’t help the lives already ruined?? it stops the carnage sure but like…how did that help the past victims of war?
What can Tony do for those who have already died? Nothing. What does he do for those still living in war torn countries? Well after shutting down Weapons he works in the civilian Market, phones etc, and he also focuses the company on humanitarian aid, medical equipment, water purifiers, etc, etc, etc.
So maybe that’s what he’s doing to help the victims of his past.