media misogyny

I hate to be the one to break this to you, dude, but as a general rule, women don’t pretend to virulently hate men they’re secretly in love with as some sort of elaborate courtship ritual. That’s a trope we made up to justify why the male protagonist always gets the girl in the end even when it’s starkly at odds with prior characterisation. In real life, if she acts like she thinks you’re a creep, it’s because she thinks you’re a creep!

  • guy: its unrealistic to have so many women fighting dragons
  • guy: i mean im sure historically there were many brave women but not enough to merit such a large amount of female characters fighting dragons
  • me: a couple things. dragons arent real my buddy my pal my dude ...
  • me: theres no dragons in history
  • me: theres nothing historically accurate about dragons
  • me: dragons themselves are unrealistic
  • me: i dont even need to address this any further because your entire argument is that bad.

Today in psychology we learned that men who are repeatedly and regularly exposed to erotic and sexual images of women will find their wives/girlfriends less attractive.

So, basically we live in a society that insidiously commodifies and sexualizes women on TV, in magazines, on billboards and in movies, and that in turn makes them less attractive to the men who are being exposed to this eroticized caricature of real women. It’s a catch-22 that keeps socializing women to believe that their value lies in their physical appearance, but their physical appearance will never be good enough. The commodification of female bodies has to stop; the sexism in mass media has to stop.

While maybe some of the sentiment behind this is okay… This is fucking bullshit.

Men are not born to pursue women. That is how society has trained them to be. Women are “prizes” and that is the patriarchal societies fault. Not being born. It’s not human nature.

A relationship should be two way unless you like it the other way. Pursuing a guy does not mean he is not interested. It could just mean he’s not an entitled asshole. Some won’t make advances until they know the girl is comfortable with it? It’s a two way street.

Like yeah, it shouldn’t be one person doing all the stuff… On either side.. Unless both parties want it that way.

Is anyone else kind of very uncomfortable with this post? Blech. I can’t even formulate all the words to describe why this is gross. Feel free to add on.

I just really don’t like how this is acting like women are supposed to be passive.

-Bethany

lmao passing the bechdel test honestly doesn’t mean shit, its requirements are intentionally pitiful to show how shitty movies can’t even do a decided bare minimum. succeeding at doing “the bare minimum” doesn’t mean anything? it’s not really progress lmao. its not enough. its not worthy of praise. the test isn’t rigorous, it intentionally has minuscule requirements. thats the literal point. passing it, again, doesn’t mean shit.

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“Ten Things Girls Secretly Love”
“Twelve Ways She’s Showing You She’s Interested”
“Women love it when men —”
“Six Ways To A Woman’s Heart”
“Fifteen Things Your Girlfriend Wishes You Would Do”

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Women are not one homogenous mass, we do not have a hive mind with identical likes, dislikes, wants and needs and ways of showing them. Women are individual people that vary wildly from one another.

Shocking, I know.

I don’t think the problem with “daddy issues” in media is the trope in principle. I think the problem is that we only give female protagonists a hard time for it.

Take a look at the Marvel Cinematic Universe, for example, and you’d be hard-pressed to find a man who doesn’t have daddy issues. Tony Stark has daddy issues. Bruce Banner has daddy issues. Thor has daddy issues. Loki is nothing but daddy issues. Nobody calls any of those guys weak or contemptible for being messed up by their bad relationships with their fathers.

I mean, hell, let’s zero it in and look at Guardians of the Galaxy in particular: we’re all making fun of Gamora and Nebula’s daddy-issue-driven conflict, conveniently ignoring the fact that Peter Quill’s messed up relationship with surrogate daddy Yondu drives the whole freaking plot.

Why is it only worthy of ridicule when it’s a woman?

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The Weird History of Asian Sex Stereotypes | Decoded | MTV News

If you take a look at popular culture there’s a pretty strange divide between Asian women and Asian men. Asian women are adored and fetishized by men of many ethnicities, while Asian men are rarely seen as sex symbols of any kind. Why? Well these stereotypes don’t come from nowhere, they actually evolved from a long and twisted history of war, trade, and persecution of American citizens. 

I think what bothers me the most about a lot of the negative press surrounding Jupiter Ascending is that we’re basically busting on it for not being for boys.

Sure, the fiim has problems - I’m not denying that. But a lot of the story-based criticisms revolve around the notion that it does a poor job of articulating the standard Chosen Hero narrative, when the fact of the matter is that it’s not meant to be a Chosen Hero story. It’s meant to be a Secret Princess story - you know, the one where the heroine has a terrible life until a handsome knight (who’s totally scary at first, but kind and brave at heart) appears and tells her that this isn’t how it’s meant to be, that she’s actually the lost princess of some far-off land, and that he’s come to take her home.

And you know what the thing about the Secret Princess narrative is? It’s every bit the adolescent power fantasy that the Chosen Hero narrative is - it’s just one that’s historically been much more popular among girls than it is among boys. And I think that’s the crux of why it’s been so widely misidentified: hundred-million-dollar action blockbusters based on specifically girl-directed power fantasies do not happen. In fact, I’m having trouble thinking of any action film founded in the Secret Princess narrative before Jupiter Ascending came along, big-budget or otherwise.

A lot of the popular criticisms fall apart when you look at it through that lens. Jupiter “lacks agency” because she doesn’t fight? Of course she doesn’t fight. The Princess doesn’t get her hands dirty in battle if it can be avoided; that’s what her knight is for. She’s got bigger things to worry about: the fate of nations - or, in this case, of worlds - rests in her hands. And does Jupiter Jones acquit herself well in this arena? You’re darn right she does. The only way you can argue that she “lacks agency” is if you presume that the only decisions that count are those that are enacted by personally hitting somebody in the face. Which would be true, if this were a Chosen Hero story - but it isn’t.

Basically, at this point we’re not criticising the film for how it tells its story: we’re criticising it for the kind of story it’s telling. Certain types of stories are regarded as intrinsically unworthy of cinematic attention - and isn’t it funny how virtually all stories aimed at girls fall into that category? Certainly, Jupiter Ascending is by no means above reproach - but we can’t even talk about what it does right or wrong as a film, because we’re stuck on arguing about whether it has any right to exist as a film in the first place.